fist tap Black JohnThordaddy said...
DV...'member talkin' 'bout Precious
on the big screen tv
toldjew this was all 'bout
radical autonomy
we got us a new fashion model
tippin' scales upwards 283
now Elle look progressively silly
American circa 2010
the dime dizzles r hella chubby
it's almost too much
but diabolically funny...
Watch yur self white boy
thatta precious black honey,
Hollywood starlet, print model,
what's next, playboy bunny???
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Are you referring to the "fat acceptance" movement? I thought that screen shot of Gabby Sidibe was because Elle lightened her skin tone.
I think her acting talent is actually pretty good. I do wonder if she would be so famous if she hadn't been morbidly obese.
I'm not going to say anything nasty about her, but I do think she needs to lose a couple hundred pounds. Of course she's at risk for heart disease, insulin resistant diabetes mellitus, etc. I took care of a trauma victim about her size. Came to me with just a couple of broken bones. She died a horrible death, I believe mainly because she was morbidly obese and didn't want to move. One by one her organs shut down. Her increased abdominal girth made it difficult for her to breathe while laying on her back, and made blood flow to her gut less optimal. Respiratory failure worsened, kidneys, liver failed. Doing chest compressions on her was a nightmare.
If someone Gabby's size got into a car accident, things like adequately examining her or putting in intravenous lines, or opening her abdomen are more difficult. Increased difficulty isn't what you want when time is a factor. That girl needs help. What she has is deadly.
Lightening skin tone?
That's silly.
That's not a lightened skin tone.
That's a flash bulb.
Give me a break.
The Negro Complexion Police are at it again.
Muhfuggas spend billions on tanning salons ... never hear crackas accusing other crackas of "darkening" their skin.
To "accuse" someone of "lightening" their skin assumes lighter is the ideal.
When in fact ... casual observation will reveal that the desire to Brown the skin (tan) is ... the ideal.
Placing this girl on the cover of any magazine without discussing her aggressive obesity is like putting Pookey from New Jack on the cover of a magazine and not acknowledging his crack addiction.
Then why did they do it?
IDENTITY POLITICS.
If "thin" "tall" women can appear on fashion covers ... why can't the morbidly obese women appear is the implication.
Group. Identity. Divide. Conquer.
Obese is not who Gabby is ...
It's what she does.
That's what I said, but I saw these two pictures earlier in the day with that caption. That's what I thought you were getting at.
Lightening, darkening the grass is always greener. Women with curly hair spend billions to straighten it, and women with straight spend billions to make it curly.
I'm not disagreeing with you here (strange as that sounds). I think this woman and the many like her need an intervention to get to a healthy weight. I don't care about looks.
I don't care how many magazine covers she gets, no one is going to think that that level of obesity is acceptable. Sidenote: I'm disturbed by women who are really fat but don't have big breasts. Like Mo'nique. I think Gabby may be one of those women also but I refused to see Precious and so I haven't seen that much of her.
happy friday fam...
@pink, why are u so disturbed by obese women with tiny tits? not sure i follow.
now as far as this young lady's acting ability...i believe she is good. her obvious obsession with food has caused her to gain much attention, however she was chosen for the role of precious partly because she was "big, black and ugly"...that is how the character describes herself in the book.
pink, the book is better than the movie imo, so you may want to check it out. good writing is good writing. the subject matter is one that has caused pause not only in our black community, but our american community..it does not define who we are or what we are.
what is your reason for refusing to see the movie?
Hey Nurse, I don't like the subject matter of rape/incest so it's VERY rare (like never) that I'll read a book or watch a movie about it. I have heard that the book is good but it's just too depressing for me.
As for the breasts, there's something weird about gaining weight and not having it go to your breasts. I don't understand why that would happen but it looks weird to me, not sure why.
Good point Pink, never though about that, but it's better they're not big, it's one less problem.
iHate the Elle cover! She looks like a doughnut - that lighting or lightening just ain't working. And I really hope she gets the pounds down coz she has a potentially pretty face. i.e. pic on the right.
If she ever loses the pounds, hopefully she won't choose to do it took quickly or she'll look like a horrible bag of skin (think Star Jones).
But better that, than dying of a heart attack at an early age.
DMG I would starve that weight off with slimfast and vegetables and then go under the knife to have all that skin removed. I think she's going to need to have some removed no matter how slow she loses it because she has at least 250 to move.
"I don't like the subject matter of rape/incest so it's VERY rare (like never) that I'll read a book or watch a movie about it. "
Pink
Feel you on that one!
"the good nurse said...
happy friday fam..."
Sista Nurse!
The Sweetest Woman On The Planet
"As for the breasts, there's something weird about gaining weight and not having it go to your breasts."
Very. True.
Hadn't thought about it.
Now that I do.
Yuck.
I'd go with a gastric bypass. More effective. Wouldn't want her to end u like that trauma victim.
DMG can correct me if I'm wrong but I think that they would make her get on a diet and be somewhat successful at losing weight and eating healthy before they even gave her the surgery. I always figured that if you're going to go on that pre-diet anyway you might as well stick it out. I don't really believe in that surgery (although I do believe in slimfast+starvation!).
^^Plantation Quackery^^
All she needs to do is eat raw nutritious natural food.
She'd be straight in about a year.
Beautiful in about 3 years.
Ok.
Maybe 4 years.
Everything else is unscientific quackery.
Yea you're right, surgery's invasive and it can be dangerous. However slim fast is plenty of refined sugar and that can't be good. Better a soup diet with actual nutrients and some nutritional help to make better food choices. I feel sorry for her, women struggle to lose 10-30 lbs but she's got loads.
Kay Dub.
Help me out here.
Why is the focus limited to our personal feelings about Gabe's appearance?
Why are we discussing techniques to cut it away so we don't have to look at it?
Am I naive to expect Gabe's condition to serve as an indictment of whatever is causing Gabe's condition? (Processed Food)
Her picture should be placed on Soda Machines in schools throughout America.
It would save the health of so many girls.
Kay Dub, you are 100% right about Slimfast being all sugar. But when I see myself getting fat I buy a couple of six packs and knock it out in a matter of weeks! I specialize in results lol.
DV, I also agree that a raw food diet is the way to go if you have the time and you're not lazy... that being said, would she have gotten that fat if she wasn't lazy??? It's easier for her to just grab a can of slimfast out of the fridge and drink it whenever she gets hungry! But I do really want to try to do the raw food thing for a while. There's a book about it that makes it sound really good and healthy, I forget who it's by.
Star Jones, Oprah, Sherri Shepherd an Mo'Nique all claimed to love themselves at their heavier wieghts.
But all of them went on diets or went under the knife.
IMOHO - These big girls just lie to themselves to avoid doing the work.
Im sorry but;
Big is not healthy,
and unhealthy IS NOT attractive.
There is no getting around it.
DV...
'member talkin' 'bout Precious
on the big screen tv
toldjew this was all 'bout
radical autonomy
we got us a new fashion model
tippin' scales upwards 283
now Elle look progressively silly
American circa 2010
the dime dizzles r hella chubby
it's almost too much
but diabolically funny...
Watch yur self white boy
thatta precious black honey,
Hollywood starlet, print model,
what's next, playboy bunny???
Pink is correct. Patients have to be committed to lifestyle change prior to surgery. Surgery for obesity should be a last option. When I was a medical student, I had a patient who wasn't committed to lifestyle change and would blend Big Mac's, fries and shake in a blender and drink it. The problem is that a patient can over time stretch out the smaller gastric pouch created by the Roux-en-Y gastric bypass...leading to increased weight gain, post surgery.
The problem with starvation diets (and not eating breakfast by the way) is that your body "thinks" it's in a famine state, and will store away many of what is ingested as fat, making weight loss less likely.
Actually KAM, the discussions weren't about techniques to "cut it away" fat, it was about removing excess skin after weight loss. Gastric bypass surgery actually decreases the size of a persons effective stomach by about 80%.
Also, if you think she was eating normal portions of "processed" foods to get to her size, then you again are delusional.
DV
Putting someone's picture on vending machines in schools is ineffective - it's no different to lung cancer and alcoholism ads done by sufferers. It's a warning label, but it doesn't stop consumption. IMO it's the government that should be lobbied to take action against companies putting so much salt and sugar in food and regulating portion sizes and prices in the food industry.
DMG
Yea there's some UK TV celeb who had a gastric bypass in July and she's not lost much weight because she liquifies muffins n chocolates. How can anyone eat a liquified muffin - that's just gross, and a burger even more disgusting. That's when you somebody's got deep psychological food issues. All the more reason to regulate the food industry, IMO.
Pink
I hear you, but soups+gym are the best thing. At least you know what's in the soup because it's home made. But for a celeb like Gaby, she can afford her own cook and trainer now, so all she had to do is commit herself.
If you have a deep love for veggies, I'd recommend raw food, it's a great way to get healthy and detox.
KW,
The government can never regulate personal choice. There are government regulations on the age one may drink alcohol...that doesn't stop thousands of 14 year olds coming into the emergency room with alcohol poisoning.
In the end, it's how many times fork meets lips.
Regulating the food industry will do nothing. I mean exactly how would the government regulate portions? What's to stop someone from shopping for a family of four when they are single?
Pink,
What's this soup thing? Sounds like a variation of a starvation diet.
KW,
There's no need to "detoxify" your body, the liver, kidney's and gut already do a very good job.
Detox is a myth, and has been known to be dangerous.
"That's when you somebody's got deep psychological food issues. "
I was going to stay out of this discussion, because frankly, I think most people already know I am a big chick, and yes, I admit, it is not healthy. Yeah, it bothers me that the focus (not necessarily here, but across most of the conversation about Gabourey) revolves around her "offensive" appearance rather than her ill heath, but that is neither here nor there. But when I saw the above statement, I have to note that it seems like SOMEONE at least is TRYING to get it. Obesity is not JUST about food. As many times as I have been told, oh, well, just eat salads and you will be fine, and as many times as I have been disrespected, abused, spit on, etc, (as have most fat people) don't people think that if was just as easy as "eating salads" I would have done it a long time ago. The issues behind a fat person's eating go way behind simply ingesting too much or the wrong kind of food. Those are just the symptoms.
@ Joanna - I can't stand most fat women (It's a personal thing) but I work with many to try to get them to a healthy weight.
Every year in the Spring I train a group of them but they always stop working out and then begin to eat what they ate in the first place.
They rarely lose weight but the added muscle helps them to have more energy and allows their cloths to fit better.
But these women always just focus on weight until Fall comes and they remember the benefits of being more fit.
I'm again at the time of the year when another group of women want to start working out again and eating better.
IMOHO - It's not the weight (which I still can't see as being attractive in most women) but the level of fitness that matters.
But there is now way that Gabby should be celebrated as being sexy when she is roughly the same weight (but shorter and less active) as was The Fridge at his playing weight.
DMG
Regulating portion sizes would make a difference, the reason why people supersize or buy the 2 for 3 deals when they're single is because they think they're getting value for their money.
If ready made food was expensive and the number of takeout joints was regulated per area maybe people would be less tempted to buy - at least for the poor, among whom are the fattest people.
It's a draconian way of doing things, but if in ten years 90% of the U.S population will be fat then drastic controls, have got to be put in place alongside other initiatives like Mrs O's obesity campaign that focus more on changing habits.
Beautiful Black John's got heart!
UBJ I am not advocating putting Gabby out there as a sex symbol by any means! Are there people who WILL and Do find her sexy? Sure there are.... but that really has nothing to do with anything... I think that discussions of Gabby's talent are overshadowed by discussions of her "offensive" appearance, and while losing weight or becoming more fit WOULD, of course, be more healthy for her, as it would for me and any other fat person, the message being put across in general is not "Oh you should lose weight because it would improve your quality of life" but rather "You should lose weight because you disgust me and I do not want to have to suffer through looking at you".... and receiving that message INSTEAD of a health oriented message leads to and reinforces, in my opinion, the psychological issues that go hand in hand with that degree of obesity. As much as people claim that abusing a fat person will "inspire" them to change, for the most part it only causes them to retreat even further into their misuse of food, and gain more weight. At least that has been my experience. And this is not an indictment of any statements on THIS thread or this blog, just a general observation.
Exactly how would it make a difference? You trying to tell me a person wouldn't just buy TWO Big Macs instead of one? The Super-Size thing doesn't help, sure, but you can't blame the government for somebody elses fat ass and poor impulse control.
Next you are going to tell me the government should limit how much a person is allowed to order from a restaurant.
In the end, people have freedom of choice here. Even the freedom to be as fat and nasty as they want.
My friend who works at the NHS and is in good shape has private insurance in addition to the national health insurance. The main reason? It pays for a gym membership, and she get's other free incentives depending on her grocery purchases.
Fuck Elle. And Vogue. Big ups to Jennifer Hudson. She looks gawjous.
One day I was browsing the net, sometimes it's as inspiring as picking up a random book, closing your eyes while flipping through the pages and stopping on something dope. For this particular thing I was working on I put "black women and beauty" in the subject heading.
What came up were several sources of blogs varying from the IT/video gamer geek who dated a blk girl to the plastic surgeon's blog on women of different race.
What they all had in common was some idea that a lot of black women are overweight. In fact one hatin infiltrator on a blog actually posted the title: "Why are black women so fat?"
The plastic surgeon said while black women are very active in youth that practice declines with age etc...
But I was actually shocked. Is that what people think of me? How far does this go?
So I really feel Hollywood...may sound crazy but even around that circle...I feel it's a direct attack on black women. I think of Hollywood (in this case Gabby's land) as a snide, rude, anorexic, bitch snickering at Gabby after each appearance. And the bitch says, "look at that black girl".
Look at Nicky Minaj, look at Monique, look at pre-Jennifer Hudson, look at Oprah...
I mean, keep it real, you will never see Kirstie Alley on Elle or Vogue.
"...you will never see Kirstie Alley (Or Rosie O'Donnel, or Rosanne Barr, or ...) on Elle or Vogue"
Exactly.
But why is it supposed to be acceptable for a large Black woman to be on these fantasy magazines?
@ Joanne - Judging a woman by her weight comes down to a snap judgement of her health.
If the initial reaction is one of her not appearing healthy - the eye moves on to the next one.
Yellow teeth, bad skin or brittle hair are used the same way.
O,
I think the concept of fat is a matter of perspective and definition (scientific and layman's). When I was a kid, I heard folks in the black community refer to overweight women as "healthy" (which is interesting, but that's another subject). I don't think anyone would disagree that black women have generally been less critical of themselves as far as being overweight.
In one sense I think it's great to have high self-esteem (and the incidence of anorexia/bulimia are much lower in black women), but the negative side of that is that some black women may not try to lose weight for health reasons since they believe they are attractive.
Is Gabby a beautiful person? I don't know I haven't had the opportunity to get to know her personality. Is she physically attractive? No, at least not to me because she's morbidly obese.
Does she belong on the cover of Elle? Who knows, I don't read it. But I've seen women on the cover who were almost as grossly underweight as Sidibe is overweight.
"But I've seen women on the cover who were almost as grossly underweight as Sidibe is overweight."
True. But you miss my point which agrees with you completely.
A majority of America does not find Gab attractive, personality aside. This is truth.
So why is it okay for black women of her size to be cover models of beauty magazines?
The "Hollywood bitch" is promoting the idea that in the black community it is okay to be obese.
When you watch the award shows that Monique and Gab are or have been on I feel they are made the clowns of the evening. I do.
On the other hand, I totally recognize the sickness in our community that completely ignores those in it who have real weight/health issues.
So I feel Gab is made the spokesmodel of a running joke that not a lot of people- fit or fat- are in on in the black community.
On a side note there is a new latin/hispanic questionable VJ on MTV who is a big girl.
Im jus sayin...where all the big white, asian girls?
Hollywood thinks "WE" are okay with it. But if Roseanne is okay with it. It just means Roseanne is a snarky out of the box comic and individual who gets no press love.
When you say "Hollywood thinks WE are OK with it", I think in general "we" are. I just spent a year down South...let's just say nobody is missing any meals, or crying about it.
But think I understand better what you are getting at with this second post, although I don't think there's anything that sinister going on...not with the likes of Tyra Banks, Halle Berry, etc who have been on magazine covers and beauty product commercials.
Do you feel embarrassed when Mo'Nique or Gabby are on TV? I don't. They aren't representing me.
Maybe she's on the cover of Elle because she's put on a really good performance? Again, I don't really care about her looks, I just think it would be a shame that someone with her acting talent died of "biscuit toxicity" before her 30th birthday.
Don't get me wrong, O, I understand your concerns that she's being made the butt of a joke (and by extension the black community), I just don't really see it that way.
While we focus on the negative of Miss Gabby we miss the truth and positivity of Mr. Walker.
http://www.fightline.com/fl/news/2010/0126/479437/herschel-walker/
Herschel is not religious, eats mostly vegetarian ( every now and then -he might eat a small bite of chicken), does not embrace technology (old fashion situps and pushups) and at 47 can run through a brick wall. He has been doing this routine most of his life.
Doing what?
Quantum Eating!
http://www.beautifulonraw.com/Quantum_Eating_The_Ultimate_Elixir_of_Youth.html
Let's just look at a few facts:
1. He is 47 years old and looks like he's in his early to mid 30's.
2. He is famous for not touching a weight, but doing push-ups and sit-ups.
3. He has stated numerous times in interviews that he eats only one small meal per day for the last 20 years.
4. Consuming less calories is in fact one way to prolong your life and look and feel good.
Herschel probably never read the book but somehow fell into the same principle the book talks about.
Quality organic nutrients is the only thing that matters. Treat food like medicine. Not entertainment.
Dr. Sebi, Dr. Afrika, Pythagoras and Dr. Robert Young, if you dig deep enough all come around to the same conclusions no matter how different their theories are.
DV, in many ways via raw foods is also preaching somewhat the same thing.
All about the nutrients.
Even with good food, you still got to pay attention. Plain and simple- heat your veggies in the microwave and it will be worthless(irradiated -devoid on nutrients) .
In our current state and paradigm, Food is crack. 3 squares a day meme and our constant obsession with the sensation and the sensory will get you every time.
Eating food for energy? Hogwash. Gabby would be more energetic than Herschel if that was the case.
Digestion uses up a significant amount of our energy in the breaking down process.
The sad part if you have some so called "brilliant experts" on this blog who don't understand the concept of digestion and would fight ignorantly the concept of alkaline vs. acidic in the digestive process and how acidosis via this process is the major cause of most dis-ease.
All acids are waste products....including fatty acids.
(lactic, uric, etc.)
AND :BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!hydrochloric...yeah, I said it. Cant have your cake and eat it too. :)-Bring it on.
Once you get this you will change your paradigm and start enjoying "NOT EATING" :).
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