Henry said ...
For me, the burka represents a woman's consecration to her husband and family. Only they see her.It affirms the privacy, exclusivity and importance of the domestic sphere.The Muslim woman's focus is her home, the "nest" where her children are born and reared. She is the "home" maker, the taproot that sustains the spiritual life of the family, nurturing and training her children, providing refuge and support to her husband.
In contrast, the bikinied American beauty queen struts practically naked in front of millions on TV. A feminist, she belongs to herself. In practice, paradoxically, she is public property. She belongs to no one and everyone. She shops her body to the highest bidder. She is auctioning herself all of the time.In America, the cultural measure of a woman's value is her sex appeal. (As this asset depreciates quickly, she is neurotically obsessed with appearance and plagued by weight problems.)
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Dang, DV. Aren't you a judgmental ignorant ass.
MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!
Hadith - Ahmad and Al-Tirmidhi 3118, Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab.
The Prophet said, "Whenever a man is alone with a woman the Devil makes a third."..., sallallahou alayhi wasallam.
who's henry? his analysis is right on point -- plus those who are attracted by what they see soon become repelled by what they did not see
Mike.
Black women are my business.
You should get you one.
""Whenever a man is alone with a woman the Devil makes a third." CNu
Wow. I don't even understand that, but I feel it.
Freez! Welcome to the blog Bra. I see you've been getting down since 2005.
Henry is a writer / blogger named Henry Makow. Jewish cat, converted to Christianity writes about Feminism, NWO and the Illuminati.
He can be out there sometimes and other times ... he can be, as you say, "right on point".
'Sup
Lol, glad you clarified the Henry mystery, thought he was from DV School. This is one true thing I can agree with him on; not his hysterics 'bout feminism(s) because he seems to think its only about White power-hungry women. Your boy needs some real talk from Black women.
Anyway, I wonder how he'd compare jeans to burkhas though? Since he thinks jeans n the boyish look is the defeminizing of women whereas burkhas are maintain the mystique of the feminine, but they are also unshapely?
Kaaaaay Dub,
Henry? Hysterics? Just about Just white power hungry women?
Nah. un un.
Dude sees Feminism as just one example of a social engineering program that is part and parcel of an overall elitist eugenics plan.
For example he quotes Frederick Jaffe:
**In 1970, Frederick Jaffe, the VP of Rockefeller-sponsored "Planned Parenthood" organization outlined how "social constraints" should be used to achieve "fertility control." ("Family Planning Perspectives" Oct.1970.)
These "constraints" included encouraging "increased homosexuality," altering "the image of the ideal family," and encouraging women to work outside the home.
If this failed, the agency recommended the placement of "fertility control agents in the water supply." We're not talking about unwanted pregnancies here.
The unprecedented decline of the American family since 1960 did not take place by accident. We are victims of a campaign of psychological warfare carried out by the CIA and foundations through the media, government and education.
They put the neutering agent in the cultural drinking water. The main ingredient is the promotion of homosexuality as an alternative to heterosexuality.
Feminism, which masquerades as "woman's rights," is in fact a pathological lesbian movement. It coerces women to believe that their feminine instincts are socially taught, oppressive and evil. It teaches them to fear and compete with men, and to find fulfillment in career instead of family.
Women who devote their lives to their families are the finest aspects of human life. They are saints who bring love and beauty into the world and tend to the real everyday needs of men and children. To disparage these women is a foul, vicious calumny worthy of the devil himself. Yet that's what the feminist movement is all about, though they deny it.
Betty Frieden, the "moderate" feminist founder, who hid the fact that she was a Communist activist, compared homemakers to concentration camp victims. Simone de Beauvoir, another Communist founder, said women must not be given a choice to be mothers and homemakers because they'll choose that option. According to feminist Ellen Willis, feminism "is the cutting edge of a revolution in cultural and moral values...The objective of every feminist reform, from legal abortion...to child-care programs, is to undermine traditional family values." (The Nation, Nov. 14, 1981)
What part of traditional family values do feminists object to? Love? Sacrifice? Devotion? Loyalty? Security? The preparation of a new generation for life? ***
Nah KW. Henry doesn't just stop at white dykes seeking to empower themselves, but he connects it to an overall elitist agenda motivated by a generational satanic cult.
It's getting hard to argue with him.
DV
Kaay Dub Lol, I'm feelin' that remix.
Nah its not hard to argue with him, your boy just needs to be taken out of his comfort zone n' stop talking the Second Wave and Anglo-European women for a hot minute. He needs to understand what figure what feminism(s) means on Black, Brown and Asian terms.
His assumption that its a homogeneous movement committed to social engineering principles is like Fisher telling you that HipHop is inauthentic rhyming and posing devoid of any political or artistic value. You know that ain't so. So why the rigidity toward feminism(s)?
If White feminism is an example of a social engineering program then Black feminism(s) and Other World feminism(s) are its intellectual, artistic and political opponent.
Put:
Adrienne Rich v Audre Lorde
Virginia Woolf v Toni Morrison
Gloria Steinman v Chandra T Mohanty (Indian academic whose work was one of the most significant criticisms of Western feminism's stereotyping of '3rd World Women')
Hillary Clinton v Wangari Mathaai (Kenyan winner of 2008 Nobel for Environment)
On all these fronts Black and Asian women win because they articulate women's positioning within their societies; embracing the cultural and familial; giving voice to their experiences as they see the world; which is often critical of White Western women who assume the need to speak for everyone.
bell hooks:
(Black feminist activist & writer)
"If I were really asked to define myself, I wouldn't start with race; I wouldn't start with blackness; I wouldn't start with gender; I wouldn't start with feminism. I would start with stripping down to what fundamentally informs my life, which is that I'm a seeker on the path. I think of feminism, and I think of anti-racist struggles as part of it. But where I stand spiritually is, steadfastly, on a path about love."
On Planned Parenthood:
Sure I feel you and it is a form of Black genocide by The State and encouragement of sexual immorality. But on abortion as a global choice I feel its a tough call; everyday there are 20000 unsafe abortions; women risk death or permanent complications - faced with a choice between a safe and unsafe abortion? Safe. Faced with a choice between a sexually and physically abused 18month old cute infant or a foetus never carried to term and spared the ordeal? Termination.
I don't know about this:
"Feminism, which masquerades as "woman's rights," is in fact a pathological lesbian movement."
Again it depends on context. Maybe among Black American and White Western Feminists gay rights are important(& not to say they aren't) but among African-Caribbean and African feminists; the lesbian trend ain't the hype; the family is the center.
Gwendolyn Mikell:
(Af-Am Feminist Researcher)
"African feminism is distinctly heterosexual, pro-natal and concerned with bread and butter issues"
In the beginning of Feminist Politics, Black Women rejected the term feminist bec it was exclusionary and focussed on White Women's concerns; but they've fought to establish their place. Inasmuch as Makow is writing against the NWO's memes of 2nd wave feminism and homosexuality; feminism has changed ALOT since then. It's a pluralistic movement and for Black Feminists his analysis is wholly unsuitable and false as an American critique let alone as a universal viewpoint.
Ok I'm done here, l8r.
...peace
Good stuff Good stuff KW.
Edifying as a mug.
But peep.
I don't see the issue with feminism as being a black or white thing, but yet another tool to'divide and conquer'.
Another engineered conflict in the Hegelian dialectic of Group Identity politics.
Imagine if you will a group of 100 identical women. 100 clones.
Give 50 of them blue T shirts and 50 of them red T shirts.
After a period of time they will no longer think of themselves as a "group of women".
The will begin to think of themselves as a group of red shirted women and a group of blue shirted women.
Not long after that conflict will erupt as a result of perceived slights, offenses and advantages.
Soon "Blue Shirtism" will become the rallying cry of the indigo hued.
Treatise would be written, speeches given and college courses would be taught on the history of the "Blue shirted struggle".
The group would splinter, resources would be invested and the two groups would wage cold war upon each other, eventually resulting in mutual annihilation.
I suspect my dear Kaaaaay Dub, that the notion of "feminism" is but a blue shirt (thesis) designed to separate women from their red shirted men (anti-thesis) for the purpose of mutual destruction (synthesis).
Are there noble and good women who happen to call themselves "feminists"? Absolutely.
But, like you, if you talk to them for a minute, you find out they are just really smart sisters who have no intention of dividing themselves from their men. They just want to be heard.
The Hegelians have an arsenal of destructive memes just waiting to be deployed:
Manism is next, and Childism is right around the corner.
Global feminists still take their marching orders from Jewish fems. Whose purpose is to destroy families and thus societies by fomenting battles of the sexes.
When I see some non-White feminists actively fighting Jewish/White feminists...then I may buy your argument that they're different and less pathological.
Interesting post. You do know that the practice of veiling came from prostitues in ancient Bablyon? Yes, the higher-class, more expensive prostitutes used to go in public completely veiled, only giving those that had paid the price the privilege of gazing upon their bodies. Soon, normal, everyday, "regular" women wanted the same right, the same privilege. Neato, huh?
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Lola Gets. I like your name and your style. Welcome to the spot.
Didn't know that about veiling.
No freebies huh? Interesting.
I guess that in this era of butt naked women, see my thong jeans, fuug me heels and celebrity sex tapes modern day prostitutes just walk around giving away samples.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTF6N7EWzOA
So is this 80% of being a homo?
And this is 100% of being a stripper.
http://www.atlnightspots.com/t-g-i-f-picture-of-the-day-ms-lastarya-cubana-lust/
The picture of the lady in the see through dress DV posted reminds me of something I saw in DC about 10-12 years ago. I was driving towards Columbus Circle on a hot summer night and I could not figure out why there was so much traffic. I began to notice all of the white men in $75K cars, some hanging out of their windows, and suddenly I saw all of these barely clothed hookers peddling their wares. I had seen plenty of hookers, but the way these women were dressed or undressed definitely caused me to circle the block for a second look—and “look only” before anyone jumps to conclusions.
Bottom line is that sex sells, and in some cases it kills, e.g. Ashley Jewell.
But the greatest value of indiscriminate lust in America is that is serves as an opiate for a significant segment of the people.
the greatest value of indiscriminate lust in America is that is serves as an opiate for a significant segment of the people
the engineered use of the humans own hormones to control their herd behavior is clearly one of the hegemons' greatest hits...,
Damn!!
If that is a picture of Rhannah featured on the front I want to smack the crap out of Chris Brown for messing up that "relationship with benefits".
Calling a skimpily clad woman a whore is 100% of being a homosexual.
Changing: "Walking Around Half Naked Is 80% Of Being A Whore"
To ...
"Calling a skimpily clad woman a whore."
Is 110% of being a Hater.
A hater of whom, DV?
Seems to me, DV, that you don't like women's bodies. Else you wouldn't want to hide them in Burkas. Or women, for that matter, since you take it upon yourself to call women whores when they dress in a manner that you personally find distasteful. Putting the same together with your excessive homophobia...
The logical conclusion in this particular case is:
A guy who calls a skimpily clad woman a whore is 100% a homosexual.
It ain't nuthin' to be ashamed about, DV. You're in good company: Langston Hughes, Barney Frank, Ru Paul...
Mike ... Mike.
You tryin' too hard man. Not a good look.
Now if I've hurt your feelings, I apologize. I assumed you were a big boy and knew how to manage your emotions.
But obviously you are taking shit personal, as evidenced by the bending over backwards and the disjointed conflated pilates like stretching to misinterpret these posts as some sort of homoerotic Freudian confession.
Apparently I've touched a nerve by suggesting you 'Get A Chick'.
That wasn't my intent. It is simply my countermeme to the Plantation's attempt to reduce the value of male and female bonding, marriage and families.
I submit that celebrated young black women walking around half naked is as dangerous to young black girls as you seem to think celebrated Hip Hop stars are dangerous to young black boys by embracing gun imagery.
That's the point of the post and you know that.
Your attempts at pandering to women by suggesting I am calling them whores is almost as silly as your attempt to pander to black people by suggesting I have a preference for "light-skin".
Now, Mike you my dude. I dig and respect you. I just hate seeing you come off as corny and anachronistic.
That "dark-skin" / "light-skin" shit you attempting to revive is as played out as "A Global System of White Supremacy".
Hey Young Veezey
Okaaay I think we're talking across different planes: you're taking up a traditional anti-feminist position whereas I'm giving specific context to the movement, when you apply Makow as a tool of critique for Black women its a little off-key. Your blue shirt-red shirt analogy assumes the reds influence the blues indoctrinating them with women's lib, anti-man talk yet this ain't so. (I'mma need to see a self-identified Black feminist academic who spouts that kinda talk) Blue shirtism is homegrown; its abt retrieving the power of being a woman and even spiritual that womanism has given rise to a theological dimension; some Christian based; others Afro-centric but all communal in outlook.
When the blue shirted women saw this movement as a means to express their frustration at their exclusion from official historical narrative or Black nationalist discourses. If being seperated from their men was in part a reactionary response to gendered oppression or exclusion then feminism was the space in which they could express it. But from the start Black feminism has always been collective and familial in outlook: in a tussle between race and gender most times race has won out in academic circles. It's not about seperation but cohesion. {Zulu checkout the women I have listed above if you wanna see Women of Color standing up to White feminists}.
Sure there are alot of Black women today are still hesitant to call themselves feminists bec its a loaded term but its evolved into many things, beyond what you n Henry propose Steinman and Kissinger may have intended. I'd say Makow needs to elevate his game and widen his scope to see the varieties and also he needs to move along with time because with the rise and rise of celeb culture (like Ms RhiRhi uptop or Head Nudist in Charge, Amber Rose), I'd say Sanger and Steinman are rolling in their graves, even conservative Black feminists are shrieking - interesting tho' that you'd assert this 80% claim, all pix considered...
....Manism already exists there's Masculine Studies and there's also Whiteness Studies that some folks on the blog needs to sign up for with the quickness ;-}
...one
amazing Post with very great commentary...I'm startin to wonder...precious jewels like pearls are tucked away in shells so far away...and covered women are like precious jewels...protected from the vices and eyes of haters....hmmmm
Why does it have to be one extreme or another: dressing like a "whore" or hiding your identity with a burqa? Why can't a woman dress conservatively and feminine while showing the world who she is? What happened to a long skirt, or one below the knee, a buttoned blouse, or a sundress with a cardigan? Why can't a woman leave something to the imagination instead of all or nothing?
^^ Actually. I think a woman can.
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