Monday, June 15, 2009

God is like game. When you got it you recognize it. When you don't, you pretend it doesn't exist.

11 comments:

CNu said...

religion combines the best elements of science and sport.

it requires talent, knowledge, application, training, practice, and dedication.

its objectives are very definite and material.

the results obtained by its practitioners are objective and can be fairly easily measured.

Denmark Vesey has demonstrated a modicum of talent.

Denmark Vesey abuses his talent to artfully package his own undisciplined moral biases and saccharine sentimentality as "God", spirituality, and religiosity.

Denmark Vesey has demonstrated - beyond any shadow of a doubt - that he knows absolutely nothing about the sweet science of religious praxis.

While not stooping to the level of Lennon Honor's predatory memetic hustle - Denmark Vesey sews confusion, ignorance, and false hopes and expectations in the minds of suggestible folk who've been grievously miseducated about the scientific and practical dimensions of the religious vocation.

Everytime he fixes his mouth to talk about this subject, Denmark Vesey does vastly more harm than good.

Anonymous said...

Ric Flair…Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo…

The Emperor’s clothes have been surgically sliced too thin to wear. He now stands fully exposed to the whole world.

Submariner said...

Craig what are those results?

Denmark Vesey said...

"Denmark Vesey has" ... been school for you since day 1.

"Denmark Vesey has" ... brought soul and life to the cold clinical cul de sac of your bitter Malthusian ravings.

"Denmark Vesey has" ... demonstrated that children less than 6 years old are indeed more than "globs of cells".

"Denmark Vesey has" ... demonstrated to this particular polysyllabic player hater that the gnosticism he calls "religion" is nothing more than occult dogma and secular fanaticism.

"Denmark Vesey has" ... recognized that CNulan's "education" was actually an indoctrination designed to lead him to the conclusion "there is no God".

God is foreign and remote to CNulan because he has about as much soul as an exhausted abortionist.

Denmark Vesey laughs at Nerdy Negros who "know" everything about religion but can't feel God.

Any "knowledge" that makes one a cheerleader for late term abortions is knowledge one can do without.

CNu said...

Sub,

The Church has long maintained public criteria by which one's spiritual athleticism and accomplishments can be measured.

Of course, they're not alone.

Buddhists also practice spiritual athleticism and maintain a catalog of signs of accomplishment, as also religiously observant Jews, Muslims - and others.

Of course you think I'm teasing by giving you such a far-reaching catalog.

I'm not.

Rather, I'm pointing out to you the common practice among the genuinely religious of establishing and maintaining a catalog of criteria by which accomplishment can be measured.

The internal measures used among authoritative practicitioners are really all that matters. As these tend to not be publicly disclosed, i.e., they're always occulted - you can/should consider the external status awarded to selected individuals to signify their level of accomplishment as acknowledged by their peers.

Like with belts awarded in contemporary sport martial arts.

On page 90, (18 pages into the pdf) you can see for yourself the description of what is required to access what would be universally acknowledged as the domain of "religious" experience. The knowledge, skill, ability, and rarely - natural talent - required to achieve such a neurological state is the baseline around which all of this revolves.

Since we know that none of these yammering, stammering, moralizing evangelists can access this domain of experience, all they're on about here is their personally held and culturally imposed opinions re personal conduct or morality. That these same individuals and the collectives that they miseducate are also on about the authoritarian imposition of their morality on as many others as possible, in my opinion, that makes these folks;

A. Not religious

B. Dangerous

C. A social and political liability.

CNu said...

Denmark Vesey laughs at Nerdy Negros who "know" everything about religion but can't feel God.

rotflmbao...,

Simmer down youngster.

I know that you know that CNu is God's right hand man.

Why you think I allow you to serve as the instrument of Grace's dispensation?

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

Same ole same ole I know about this because I read it in a book mantra. Some things cannot be known in our plane of existence at this time. Accept it or sound like fool.

Big Man said...

Cnulan said

Rather, I'm pointing out to you the common practice among the genuinely religious of establishing and maintaining a catalog of criteria by which accomplishment can be measured.


This was a thought-provoking statement. That's a good way of putting it.

CNu said...

Big Man,

Religious folks have ALWAYS suffered from the predations of frauds, apostates, and plain old jealous haters.

Just like any other science, however, religious science requires talent, knowledge, application, training, practice, and dedication.

Disregard every Constantinian abomination you've ever been taught and reread the gospels carefully Big Man.

How many times (in a red letter edition) is Jesus reported to have said something about those "with ears to hear and eyes to see"?

Why did Jesus have to "teach" the apostles how to pray?

Who taught you how to pray?

How would you know if you're doing it correctly?

Big Man said...

CNulan

Didn't you answer your question before you asked it?

CNu said...

Didn't you answer your question before you asked it?

I know the limits of what passes for Christianity in the popular domain Big Man.

I've taken the measure of the off-balance arguments you've offered Fisher.

Instead of drawing firm conclusions or making assumptions, I thought I'd just ask you a few things point blank.

I understand your reticence about truthfully answering any of them given the strenuous claims you've made concerning prayer and your own beliefs caught between a rock and hard place given the simultaneous interrogatory coming from a skeptic and a true-believer.

Whether you answer my questions or not, for your own sake as a Christian aspirant, I hope you will study and act constructively in response to the very serious and straightforward provocations I've offered here today.