Kelly Tilghman, the Golf Channel anchor who during Friday's broadcast from the Mercedes-Benz Championship said while discussing Tiger Woods' dominance that young players on the PGA Tour should "lynch him in a back alley," was suspended two weeks Wednesday for the remark.The move came after a wave of outrage that included a call for her to be fired by civil rights activist Rev. Al Sharpton and despite a statement from the Woods camp saying, "It is a complete non-issue."
Sharpton said the fact Woods did not call for punishment of Tilghman does not mean the comment was not offensive to African-Americans.
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The comment wasnt offensive to me. I understood what she meant by the statement. It actually was a compliment to Tiger on his athleticism. Much different than Imus' nappy headed ho remark which was undoubtedly intended to be insulting.
No one has any basis to be offended by her statement other than Tiger Woods.
Group think gone wild.
In response to co-anchor Nick Faldo's joke that younger players should "gang up" on Woods
Tilghman replied "Lynch him in a back alley".
The real question is would either or have either ever remarked in a similar manner about any other golfer while on air? Imus had a multi year track record of crude remarks before his nappy headed ho incident. I suspect at minimum there is some element of hatorade in her statement masked as joke. Her subconscious slipped so fuck her and her job. Golfers don't need haters on the air anyway! and let our pitbull Rev. Al do what he do!... We need one of him like the JAL did there thing or Mel Gibson.
Nah Casper,
Group Identity Pscyhobabble is a lame hustle.
Black men behaving as super-sensitive fragile bitches who can be hurt by words - does not serve us well.
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Denmark Vesey. You are probably the most brilliant man this side of the sun.
question. compliment or not, what part of a lynching and its history is humorous?
I'm not offended but she's still foolish. its a display of poor taste and I'd expect a network to suspend her for their own PR reasons not out of respect for AA's.
good points KP.
Telemaque, reel it in. He's hard enough to handle. :-)
KP said...
"question. compliment or not, what part of a lynching and its history is humorous?"
KP,
I'll try to answer that. But first, help me better understand the context of this situation.
Help me out.
1) Where is this list of "Acceptable" words and "Unacceptable" words?
2) Who puts this list together?
3) Can a black person use the word "lynch"?
4) Is the concept of "lynching" exclusive to black people?
5) Had Kelly Tilghman said "mug" him a back alley ... or if she had said "work him over" in a back alley ... or if she had said "jack him up" in a back alley ... or if she had said "beat him with a ball-peen hammer" in a back alley - would she be any less foolish and deserving to keep her job?
6) Is it to be understood that the government can't punish people for speech, but is it OK for corporations to routinely punish people for speech violations, by taking away their livelihood?
7) Is creating an atmosphere where black people and white people are afraid to even speak to each other out of fear of violating some secret set of "off-limit" race words - in our interests?
8) Has it occurred to you that the Sharpton response is choreographed by his handlers to maintain racial tension?
Ok rjesq. Will do.
Denmark Vesey. You are probably the most brilliant man the other side of the sun.
LOL
Telemaque, that is funny.
Thank you very much. Got a brotha blushin'.
"Telemaque" is an interesting handle. Tell us how it came about.
DV
Group Identity Pscyhobabble is a lame hustle.
Black men behaving as super-sensitive fragile bitches who can be hurt by words - does not serve us well.
DV what group of people don't have the hustle.. Palestinians have the hustle. Iranians have the hustle.. Jews for sure have the hustle.. Shit you have the hustle at your shool about what type of songs played during the holidays you think non-christians should want to play. I could call you super-sensitive & fragile over some songs. But I won't.
Secondly, the white woman to KP's point is a hater. And as such should be removed and replaced by someone who can praise the greatest golfer of all-time. She aint nothing but Howard Cosell to Ali. Hating Pscyhobabble is a lame hustle!
Don't be ashamed of uncle Al... Every family has one and needs one. Hie role is to set assholes with their hate baggage straight!
DV, that "Telemaque" person is obviously making a play on your moniker.
Read a history book or two.
This is not about anybody being offended. Not Tiger, not Al, not you or me. This is about America's WS continuing influence that every so often bubbles to the surface no matter how much you want to pretend that race is a non-issue. She could just have easily said mugged, and within the context of the conversation she would have gotten away scott free. Hell, I have said myself that the only way those white boys ever gonna win another tournament is to pull a Nancy Kerigan. Got to get that ball ping hammer directly on those kneecaps, and poof, no more Tiger problems.
But that's not what she said, and believe it or not, the words that come out of people's mouths express a hell of a lot about their thought processes. I'm no proponent of Freud, but he hit the nail on the head with that Freudian slip business. So that seemingly unconscious choice of words gives us a glimpse into the mad mind of a white person who is a tacit supporter of the WS system. And it's important to understand that even the ones that smile in your face still persist in attitudes and thought processes that are inimical to our interests.
DV wants to make it just about the words. That's like pretending to honestly believe that it means exactly the same thing when I greet one of my home boys saying "What's up my nigga" as when your neighborhood skinhead rolls up on DV with the exact same line, but of course, an entirely different motivation. The Blackest man in America better be ready to put his pimp hand down on that nazi or forfeit the crown forever.
It's disingenuous to pretend that it's about a list of so-called prohibited words or super sensitive fragile egos. What it is about is patterns of thought and behavior that are the direct result of centuries of WS conditioning. These thought patterns have largely been moved from the forefront of this society to the backrooms and subconscious where they are that much more difficult to identify and react to. Especially when confused Negroes persist in trying to convince us that these things no longer exist or don't matter even if the so still exist.
And stop with the hating on Al already. To insinuate that Al Sharpton or any Black man is somehow responsible for racial tension and animosity is the most craven statement I have ever heard. Are you a coward who would rape a woman and then claim she had it coming because she had on a short skirt? That bullshit blame the one who is being attacked for causing the attack is just weak. I won't disparge Telemaque for thinking you are brilliant, but I wonder if she is equally turned on by that coward stance you just endoresed. Al Sharpton has established a zero tolerance policy towards all expressions of racially biased behavior against his people. In other words, you want Al on that wall; you need Al on that wall. If Al makes you uncomfortable, it's more likely because you aint got the stones to step to anyone anywhere and dare them to say that type of bullshit to your face.
I'm a boy, Exodus. I'm a boy. A black one, too. The second blackest one on Earth.
Do I have to be a girl just because I think DV is brilliant and sexy?
Now as to your haranguing DV, clearly that woman did not mean what you said because she would have to have been talking about a black person. In fact, in Tiger Woods case she can't possibly be talking about black people because Tiger Woods is NOT BLACK. He is Calabinasian.
Hey, Telemaque, it was an honest mistake. Don't often see that level of man love and it threw me off.
Regarding Tiger's self proclaimed "cablinasian" classification, you may or may not be aware that this is a central node to the entire issue of GSWS that we have been pontificating about. Tiger can feel free to classify himself any way he chooses, and it's funny how accepting Black folks are about that. I assure you that we are the only ones so accepting. I further assure you that people who classify themselves as white and others as non-white could give a rat's ass about whatever new name Tiger chooses to label himself.
Go to my blog and read the most recent post "Required Reading" then come back and tell me that Tiger isn't Black.
Telemaque said, "I'm a boy...The second blackest one on Earth. Do I have to be a girl just because I think DV is...sexy?"
DV, looks like you have a real groupie. School him bruh...I want to read this. This is going to be good...
DV said, "Telemaque...Got a brotha blushin'."
Oh hellll naaaawww...lol...let me stop instigating.
1) Where is this list of "Acceptable" words and "Unacceptable" words?
Some things are common sense. When you represent a network and fail to exhibit it on the air you get educated one way or the other and suspended by employers.
2) Who puts this list together?
Not who. what. Answer: Experience
3) Can a black person use the word "lynch"?
anyone can. place, time and context are the issue.
4) Is the concept of "lynching" exclusive to black people?
to her, absolutely.
5) Had Kelly Tilghman said "mug" him a back alley ... or if she had said "work him over" in a back alley ... or if she had said "jack him up" in a back alley ... or if she had said "beat him with a ball-peen hammer" in a back alley - would she be any less foolish and deserving to keep her job?
IMO, yeah she'd be less foolish if she said "beat up" and most ppl would find humor in it.
6) Is it to be understood that the government can't punish people for speech, but is it OK for corporations to routinely punish people for speech violations, by taking away their livelihood?
In a world of many accepted yet awkward and unjust, norms, rules, guidelines and laws, Yes.
7) Is creating an atmosphere where black people and white people are afraid to even speak to each other out of fear of violating some secret set of "off-limit" race words - in our interests?
Is creating an atmosphere where black people are discouraged from calling white people on their BS in our best interests? So all out slave revolt is cool but combating mental slavery of WS with "easy on the lynch comments" is psychobabble?
You just don't like Al.
8) Has it occurred to you that the Sharpton response is choreographed by his handlers to maintain racial tension?
Never. I don't believe thats the case.
DV said
Thank you very much. Got a brotha blushin'.
"Telemaque" is an interesting handle. Tell us how it came about.
Denmark Vesey (originally Telemaque,1767 – July 2, 1822) was a West Indian slave, and later a freedman, who planned what would have been one of the largest slave rebellions in the United States had word of the plans not been leaked.
I see you getting some serious man love... Now I am not going to even suggest anything about a certain Senator from Idaho ;) Bet you need uncle Al now!
I would have handled it just like Tiger did - with dignity and class.
That broad ain't have 1/10000 of his stacks.
I would have handled it just like Tiger did - with dignity and class.
That broad ain't have 1/10000 of his stacks.
Telemaque, why do you refer to yourself as a boy and not a man? And why do you refer to females as girls? Find that odd, as well as your feeling that DV is "sexy."
DV, you still over there blushin'?
Brilliance is sexy. DV has a sexy intellect.
Of course I am a man. What are you trying to insinuate? I am man enough to refer to myself as a boy, girl, or anything in between without losing my focus.
And I'm not a "groupie".
Can't a guy have some love for a brother without being called a groupie?
Didn't Brothers love Malcolm X? Did that make them groupies?
DV is on the level of Malcolm X, at least. His incredible analysis of the black condition is so on point.
We are in a superior position throughout the world.
Black people rule wherever to look!
Hey, Telemaque, it was an honest mistake. Don't often see that level of man love and it threw me off.
Oh hellll naaaawww...lol...let me stop instigating.
I generally abstain from these topics of conversation but you guys had me dying! I stopped reading after paul's bit but I shall return.
DV is right. If this type of thing gets over blown each and every time then no progress will be made. If AA's are offended every time someone says "lynch" or "nappie headed ho" not to mention the Big N, then the AA's will keep there plantation chains on and feel comforted by them. Al is the voice that whispers to keep the chains on, keep playing the victim, keep the submissive mode on.
There is the way it's always been and then there is progress. If your scared of changing your world perceptive then continue to take comfort in the self imposed chains. If considering a new way of thinking, you might realize the chains, there weight and most importantly the key in your hand to open the chains.
The choice is yours. Tiger gets it. Big J gets it DV gets it and so does the Turk!!
"...or anything in between..."
roflmbao
and there it is, Mike.
I just checked back in and the hilarity still hasn't subsided! I'm with you on this one, Fisher. I'll return after I catch my breath.
What is so damn funny?
You people are impossible!
Telemaque, is your hand on your hip? This is all via internet, so I wont know unless I ask.
rjesq, what DO you mean by that, girlfiend? And I said girlFIEND on purpose.
"We are in a superior position throughout the world. Black people rule wherever to look!" Telmaque
Get 'em Maque,
You got more heart than 6 GSWS haters in a Range Rover.
You understand that we become that upon which we focus.
Freedom is the ability to choose on what we focus. Courage is the willingness to focus on things that strengthen us. Understanding this process is wisdom. Doing it, makes us men.
We can focus on our light and that which empowers us. Or we can chant to the God of "White Supremacy" by focusing on the dark message of victimization and pathetic entitlement that only weakens us.
With all of the beautiful powerful things black people are doing around the world, the mental slaves want to focus our collective attention on a stray word from a miscellaneous white woman on the Golf Channel.
P.L.A.N.T.A.T.I.O.N. N.E.G.R.O.S.
Young Exodus,
Listen carefully: The necessary corollary of “White Supremacy” is “Black Subservience”.
There really aint much to talk about after that.
No you chucklehead. I understand that everyone has a limit on what he or she knows, but there is no limit to what you can learn. Except the limit you place on yourself by your unwillingness to concede that there may bbe somethings worth knowing outside of your sphere of knowledge.
So try this completely new logic on for size. When I speak of WS I am speaking of a a pattern of thoughts and behaviors practiced at all levels of human interaction, to ensure white genetic survival and the ultimate goal being white supremacy. Am I going to fast for you?
Now, accepting that the GSWS that I just described, not the one you seem intent of imagining, does exist, it has not achieved 100% of it's goal. If it had you and i would not be on this public forum having this debate. So their goal may be black subservience, but the opposing system is Black STRUGGLE. Not accepting the subservient position that the currently more prominent system would have us in, is the whole point of understanding what it is they are trying to do and how they are doing it.
Your "necessary corollary" exists only in DV's mind.
You and I are involved in the same struggle, just your methodology doesn't deal with the reality of the situation and thus is more prone to spinning is wheels. You must admit you have a certain talent for spinning your wheels.
telemaque...
"I am man enough to refer to myself as a boy, girl, or anything in between without losing my focus."
DV...
"You understand that we become that upon which we focus."
ROFLMBAO.
STOP it, boys! I can't breathe.
Oh. my.
ROFLMBAO
Whew...
You and I are involved in the same struggle, just your methodology doesn't deal with the reality of the situation and thus is more prone to spinning is wheels. You must admit you have a certain talent for spinning your wheels.
Yet another unselfconscious moment of pure afrosaxon comedy gold....,
DV
"With all of the beautiful powerful things black people are doing around the world, the mental slaves want to focus our collective attention on a stray word from a miscellaneous white woman on the Golf Channel."
Wait.. Wait... Wait Denmark / Telemaque wasn't it you 6 weeks ago all up in arms over the musical selection in your kids school. Now if you were playing the role of Tiger you would have let it go. Not been so sensitive. But you made a huge deal about proportional to Al's attempt to bring a position of equality to a situation. So maybe some of non-Christian kid's parents are somewhere suggesting that you were over reacting to a innocent effort to balance religion and holidays among young humans. Either way you reacted to your belief system. Why can't Al Sharpton???
Contradiction should be your middle name. I only wonder what Curtis Jackson would have done or said if such the same white South Carolinian racist chick wished that white rappers lynch him in some dark alley. Would Malcolm have stood for such suggestions?? Hell no!. See when black folk become comfortable (Fresh Prince of Bel Air) they forget the struggle all together. Rollover to anythang "just as long as I am not still living in the ghetto" Don't anger the white people... they don't mean no harm... Now that's a house negro position if I have ever heard one... Do & say what you want white man/woman. And I thought gansta rap taught you something???
DV, you started off the year on a roll with this thread. I just regained my composure but I promptly lost it again after reading rjesq.
I swear I'll be back after I get a glass of water.
"Wait.. Wait... Wait Denmark / Telemaque wasn't it you 6 weeks ago all up in arms over the musical selection in your kids school. Now if you were playing the role of Tiger you would have let it go. Not been so sensitive. But you made a huge deal about proportional to Al's attempt to bring a position of equality to a situation."
Now, now wait a minute Casper / Anon / Kingfish / ... I know you've suffered a number of brutal asswhuppins in the past, and you are eager for some semblance of a come up ... but you stretchin' Festas.
Writing about the replacement of "Silent Night" with "Kool and The Gang" does not compare to this Ghetto Ass charade of Al Sharpton.
Stare at your computer screen a bit longer and come up with something else.
Casper, in all fairness, I don't think DV would refer to himself as a "boy" with something "in between". So he ain't Telemaque.
DV
Writing about the replacement of "Silent Night" with "Kool and The Gang" does not compare to this Ghetto Ass charade of Al Sharpton.
Yeah !Yeah !Your right DV!.. The two don't compare one bit.. Crying over Silent Night versus a lynching in the back alley don't compare. So explain yourself?! Where is the gansta in ya dude!? What would you say to your son if his little white jewish classmate told him he was going to put a rope around his neck and hang him from the monkey bars if he don't stop beating him in basketball??? Ah son he was just joking... Silly white boy don't mean no harm !! He is just kidding... Now if they play that Kool in the Gang again...Versus Silent Night call me... I 'll be there to bitch some more... Come on gansta. Please tell me brothas out west ain't soft?
"What would you say to your son if his little white jewish classmate told him he was going to put a rope around his neck and hang him from the monkey bars if he don't stop beating him in basketball???" Casper
What would I do?
1) Laugh
2) Anticipate my son's triumphant retort.
3) Have him say "Pasty Face Cracka" three times fast and otherwise practice the dozens.
4) Have him do some push-ups and work on his jab.
5) Tell him a story about the Buffalo Soldiers
Where as the GSWS Negro would:
1) Cry
2) Call Al Sharpton
3) Demand an "apology" ... (Sucka move. It empowers your adversary)
4) Use big Neo-Negro Liberal words like "historic!" and "institutional!" and "systemic!" and "pervasive"
5) Empower the other little boy.
6) Cripple his own son by filling his head with stories of black men beaten and lynched and mistreated in the past and how "aint nothin' changed".
DV
"What would I do?
1) Laugh"
"Where as the GSWS Negro would:
1) Cry"
Wait... Wait effectively that's what you did cried about Kool and the Gang. But anyway my son will do what Chuck D spits. Give that little white boy a black eye. No soft ass little boys in my house. So what you going to tell your boy to do if the little white boy punches him in the nose.
#1) Laugh
#2) Turn the other cheek
#3) Have him say "Pasty Face Cracka" three times fast and otherwise practice the dozens.
#4) Have him do some push-ups and work on his jab.
#5) Tell him a story about the Buffalo Soldiers
DV...
"we become that upon which we focus."
Michael Fisher said...
ROFLMBAO. STOP it, boys! I can't breathe. Oh. my. ROFLMBAO
Whew...
Mike Fisher pretends to laugh as he sits at his computer screen, Hennessey in hand, the living embodiment of "The Global System of White Supremacy".
If you aren't what you focus on, what are you Fish?
"No soft ass little boys in my house." Casper
Glad to hear you say that Casp. A soft ass father in your house is bad enough.
DV
Glad to hear you say that Casp. A soft ass father in your house is bad enough.
OK Mr. Silent Night ... You still blushin' from the man/boy/ something in between love ?????
It just don't stop! LOL
DV...
"Mike Fisher pretends to laugh as he sits at his computer screen, Hennessey in hand, the living embodiment of 'The Global System of White Supremacy'.
If you aren't what you focus on, what are you Fish?
I don't drink, DV.
Not even "in between" things.
la la la... the sun, the moon, the stars...
roflmbao
Ahhh man. That is pretty funny.
Let me go watch the Lakers. Messin' with ya'll fools.
Good one Casp.
I'll lynch your black ass tomorrow.
Ooops.
Uh oh.
Shit! Here come Al Sharpton.
"I Hurrrd Dat!!"
"DENMAWK VES HEY! YOU SED DA WuRRRD .... "LYNNCH!!!"
"You Haaa OHfinded AfWican AmeyWicans EveryWhere!!"
"Do You Know Da HisssTowy uh "LYNNNCH?!?!"
"FURST IT WAZZZZ NOOOOSESSS! NOOOSSESS!!! ALLL ON DA NewZZZ."
"NOW It's Calls To Lynch!!!"
We Gwan Hol' A Pwess Confwence!
Get Tah Da Bottom Uh Dis.
You Musss Nah Blog Fo 2 Weeeks!!"
I don't drink, DV.
TRANSLATION: "My name is Michael ... and I'm an alcoholic."
[Hello Michael]
"I've been sober for 9 weeks now."
[Applause]
DV...
"TRANSLATION: 'My name is Michael ... and I'm an alcoholic.'"
Actually no, I'm not an alcoholic. Aside from the occasional glass of French or German white wine with dinner, I just don't like the taste of alcohol. Especially hard liquor.
well Fish, live a little cuz you missin out.
Rev. Sharpton is not perfect but at least he is doing something. I was listening to his show on XM when a caller told him about this incident. If you allow jokes abut lynching then whats next slavery jokes,or how about draging Black men behind pic up trucks jokes. If the golfer had have been Jewish and she had said they could put him in an oven she would have been gone.They probly wouldave went to a commercial and she would not have been there when they returned.I guess if you make enough money it shoudnt matter to you what people say , Tiger gave them a pass on thg chicken and collard green comment years back.Don Imus was a Shock Jock this woman is a golf commentator , and if she didnt do anything wrong why did they suspend her??
See Dv, that's what 's so cool about you. You don't hesitate to let these guys talk they way they really are inside. As the colored Niggers they really are.
"I Hurrrd Dat!!"
"DENMAWK VES HEY! YOU SED DA WuRRRD .... "LYNNCH!!!"
"You Haaa OHfinded AfWican AmeyWicans EveryWhere!!"
That's just hilarious!!!!
Keep at it, DV. Show them that they are nothing but Niggers!
Show "who" that they are nothing but Niggers, Telemaque?
Those guys you are mocking, DV. You have them talking like Niggers. You are just brilliant!!!
I generally avoid comment on the topic of race relations but I will make a mild splash. I'm reminded of a case a few years back when Donald Trump fired a white man on his show for calling himself "white trash." He made it clear that there is no place for such talk even in jest and directed at oneself. He set an appropriate standard for ethical behavior in a corporate setting. Executives at the Golf Channel should have done the same. So to answer DV's earlier question: No, blacks shouldn't be allowed to use such words either.
To pounce on Sharpton and others for calling attention to a misdeed is wrong. If black athletes and rappers must face jail time for societal infractions then I won't defend a white woman for falling into a similar trap of her own design. To call for the firing of this woman doesn't require a suspension of autonomy or submission to GSSW.
And Telemaque, when you liberally use words like 'Nigger' in a forum such as this you merely contribute CBA talent to an NBA game. It's quite gratuitous and unnecessary - and yes, I find it offensive. If you care to have your input seriously considered I suggest that you rein in such comments. Otherwise, you risk being the most marginal of benchwarmers.
Mr. Submariner I think you are being very unfair to me.
"I Hurrrd Dat!!"
"DENMAWK VES HEY! YOU SED DA WuRRRD .... "LYNNCH!!!"
"You Haaa OHfinded AfWican AmeyWicans EveryWhere!!"
"Do You Know Da HisssTowy uh "LYNNNCH?!?!"
"FURST IT WAZZZZ NOOOOSESSS! NOOOSSESS!!! ALLL ON DA NewZZZ."
"NOW It's Calls To Lynch!!!"
We Gwan Hol' A Pwess Confwence!
Get Tah Da Bottom Uh Dis.
You Musss Nah Blog Fo 2 Weeeks!!"
What kind of person talks like that?
Do you?
I don't. And I am a black man. I'll even go so far and call myself a Negro.
This is why DV's rhetorical approach is so brilliant. He can call these Plantation Negroes, these people, Nigger without calling them Nigger!
Brilliant!
Sexy!
I just love that man. He is the Malcolm X or our time!!!
Alright, this is clearly a joke. No more attention will be paid.
"Young Exodus, Listen carefully: The necessary corollary of “White Supremacy” is “Black Subservience”." - Demark Vesey
"their goal (WS) may be black subservience, but the opposing system is Black STRUGGLE." - ExodusMentality
I really love it when DV lays down a pronouncement like the one above. Then when I clearly demonstrate that his "necessaary" logic patterns are completely bogus, he proceeds to ignore it and pretend as if his logic is beyond reproach and can survive any challenge.
DV this is at least the third time you have done this to me. You make some asinine statement, I challenge you on it, and you and all your sychophants run right on to the next subject as if your warped logic has once again proven unstoppable. If I was just slightly less busy with more important shit, I would find those instances and do a full post on it myself. But it really isn't that personal for me.
I would love to see you explain to your hallelujah choir exactly what rational reasoning you are using when you continue to present your straw man position on GSWS in the face of responses like mine.
And CNu, dude, I freely admit, I don't understand you. Never did. But if you got issues with my thought processes do me the courtesy of being a little less cryptic and just say what's on your mind. I am open to learning if you actually have something to teach. "Yet another unselfconscious moment of pure afrosaxon comedy gold" means less than nothing to me. Is there really anything about me or my statements that you could point to as "afrosaxon"? DV wants to pretend he understands you but I would bet that's just strokin the ego of the new deacon in the church of DVism.
Did I say CBA? I meant ABA. T'maq, I hear that the And1 team is looking for replacements. Maybe you ought to try out for their club.
Dwight, let's pull it up out of the basement of this thread and put it on the fresh one DV posted for precisely that purpose, OK?
why are you people so hostile? first you are making fun of me and then you are saying that i am joking.
what do you have against me rjesq.?
DV is a brilliant man. THIS IS NOT A JOKE. YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO THAT MAN!
Telemaque, I'll give you some fatherly, Odyssean advice. Lay back and take some time to look at the profiles of the commentators. Check their lists of favorite movies and books and cross check them against your own. Make the effort to become informed beyond mainstream or popular venues. Read and study. If you want to be relevant and make meaningful contributions you must aspire to be more than a sycophant. The rhetorical styling of Denmark Vesey has merit but you appear to be more like Patroclus. Your reach exceeds your grasp.
Mr. Submariner, what is it with this homosexual ("Patroclus" - yeah, I looked it up) reference again? What does my sexuality (I'm not saying I'm gay, I'm saying it is not relevant) have to do with all of this?
Once again, why do you need to insult me?
DV uses language in a very clever and brilliant way in order to expose the weak-mindedness of the "white supremacy" guys.
Plus DV doesn't need you to interpret what he says. He hasn't disagreed with me. Right DV?
And why do you say I am a sycophant (yes, I looked that one up, too) just because I agree with an obviously brilliant person?
telemaque...
"Plus DV doesn't need you to interpret what he says. He hasn't disagreed with me. Right DV?
Well, you got a point there...
Telemaque, please see the thread above.
I have been going through this thread, and I must say that Exodus Mentality makes the most sense to me. As for Telemaque, or whatever you call yourself, you are obviously here to stoke DV's fires.
I can't even remember what this thread is all about...oh the woman and lynching remarks!! Who cares? Of what consequence is she?
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