"For me, Duke was personal. I hated duke and I hated everything I felt Duke stood for. Schools like Duke didn't recruit players like me. I felt like they only recruited black players that were Uncle Toms." Jalen Rose
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So the mystery solved... cats on the bench were shouting time out and Chris got caught up in the moment. That is poor coaching on Steve Fisher's part.
Being from the Motor and knowing how tight thing were for J. Rose (CWebb came from a solid, mid-class family that could afford to send him and his sibling to Country Day... and you do go there with Green Stamps!), I never hated on whatever money they got from Ed Martin... the hypocrisy in NCAA sports is laughable... what, the OSU football player got tattoo's and TPryor sold HIS championship ring..? WTF!
Notice the money earning potential of baseball players doesn't interfer with their amateur status... but then again, what are the color of most of those baseballer's..?
Notice the money earning potential of
"It's a Black thing. You wouldn't understand."
I still have some of their games on VHS.
It must be said, and I was hoping the doc would touch on this...
THERE WOULD BE NO FAB 5 WITHOUT THE '90-'91 UNLV RUNNIN' REBELS (other than Wooden's UCLA teams they're arguably the most dominant college basketball team in the history of the NCAA)
Anderson Hunt
Stacey Augmon
Larry Johnson
Greg Anthony
George Ackles
Moses Scurry
You really can't tell the complete story without touching on the connective tissue between two teams that became cultural phenomena within two years of one another. The Duke team UNLV blew out by 30 in the Nat'l Championship game is basically the same squad Michigan lost to by 20 in the championship game their freshman year.
In my opinion,if you really wanna go back, you should start with the Phi Slamma Jamma fraternity at the University of Houston with Olajuwon and Drexler. They were just as dominant as UNLV and Michigan but fell short in the National Championship game vs NC State in 83-84.
KP
The FAB 5 was sooooo dope. Seeing the Fab Five movie reminds me why I hate college basketball now -the players don't stay long enough to actually create a team worth remembering. The UNLV team mentioned above was the shiznit!!
It hurts so bad to know that the Fab 5 never won the title.
I was at the game when Webber called the time out.
That movie was crazy well done. My 4 and 6 year olds chilled on the couch and watched in silence for the whole last hour. Somethin' about it.
...and don't think I didn't rock black socks on the hoop court my Sr.year in high school! I remember the white schools chanting "chuuuuurch socks, chuuuuurch socks, chuuuurch socks".
KP:
The Fab 5 documentary didn't need to address UNLV because UNLV has their own documentary on HBO.
Anon - Yep Tark and Vegas were shown on local TV even in SoCal back then.
Don't forget John Thompson and Georgetown.
I HATE all the schools on tobacco road because they beat the "Black" teams.
It doesn't make sense but that's how I feel.
IWAIW - But C Webb came out early too.
JH - And even Andre Agassi rocked the black socks with his Air Flares while playing tennis.
I don't agree with Rose.
Duke players aren't Toms - they're just soft.
How many players from Duke make it big in the NBA?
Sasha: I caught the UNLV doc a few days ago. I was a Fab 5 stan so my comment isn't a knock on them. I was hoping they'd touch on the UNLV team because they were depicted as villains, street thugs, went through all kinds of investigations etc. for many of the same reasons the Fab 5 did.
KP
Interesting.
So let me get this straight.
(and I do admit that I do not like Duke and that I have had some of the same resentments against them that have been noted - as well as with the Boston Celtics)
Duke seeks Black kids with POLISH.
It appears that they want kids from 'good upbringing' and with academic attainment.
In as much as THIS FORMULA has worked for them because they are always in the top 2% of basketball programs - WHAT of this strategy is problematic?
Why is it that when Georgetown under Thompson sought to look past the academic qualifications of their players (as much as possible) because "if not this opening into school through athletics - this kid would remain in the ghetto" this was seen as a PROGRESSIVE granting of opportunity yet when Duke seeks to pick out and reward Black kids from good families - this is problematic?
DV - when Duke comes after your well-coiffed children in the future is it going to be problematic for you?
(Note - I acknowledge that your post was neutral on the subject and just a conversation starter.
I am just asking.)
follow up from the source on the uncle tom comment.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6224395
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