ed said...
Is this really the institution or the student? Why are we blaming the institution when the student suppose to have the initiative to teach themselves instead of trying to be taught?
I cannot say for certain that I can educate myself better not being at an institution of higher learning because it boils down to information and resources. It should be assumed that a college would have more information and resources than my own homemade education program.
Second, in the real world I'm looking at Africans, Indians, Brazilians and Eastern Europeans learning from collaborations and information gathering to advance in today global economy. Then I look at the paper and see unemployed educated African-Americans standing in a job fair line touting their education and credentials...
John Taylor Gatto said ...
Government schooling is the most radical adventure in history. It kills the family by monopolizing the best times of childhood and by teaching disrespect for home and parents. The whole blueprint of school procedure is Egyptian, not Greek or Roman. It grows from the theological idea that human value is a scarce thing, represented symbolically by the narrow peak of a pyramid.In 30 years of teaching kids rich and poor I almost never met a learning disabled child; hardly ever met a gifted and talented one either.
Like all school categories, these are sacred myths, created by human imagination. They derive from questionable values we never examine because they preserve the temple of schooling.
That’s the secret behind short-answer tests, bells, uniform time blocks, age grading, standardization, and all the rest of the school religion punishing our nation. There isn’t a right way to become educated; there are as many ways as fingerprints.
We don’t need state-certified teachers to make education happen—that probably guarantees it won’t. How much more evidence is necessary?
Good schools don’t need more money or a longer year; they need real free-market choices, variety that speaks to every need and runs risks. We don’t need a national curriculum or national testing either. Both initiatives arise from ignorance of how people learn or deliberate indifference to it. I can’t teach this way any longer. If you hear of a job where I don’t have to hurt kids to make a living, let me know. Come fall I’ll be looking for work.
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Is this really the institution or the student? Why are we blaming the institution when the student suppose to have the initiative to teach themselves instead of trying to be taught?
I cannot say for certain that I can educate myself better not being at an institution of higher learning because it boils down to information and resources. It should be assumed that a college would have more information and resources than my own homemade education program.
Second, in the real world I'm looking at Africans, Indians, Brazilians and Eastern Europeans learning from collaborations and information gathering to advance in today global economy. Then I look at the paper and see unemployed educated African-Americans standing in a job fair line touting their education and credentials...
Is this really the institution or the student? Why are we blaming the institution when the student suppose to have the initiative to teach themselves instead of trying to be taught?
uh, Ed - there is the not insignificant matter of truancy laws you know.
This reminds me more than a little bit of when GCV was castigating doctors, hospitals, and schools for compulsory vaccinations, without having looked to the state capital and the laws still in effect on the books which MANDATE such vaccinations.
As Gatto points out, there's more than enough institutional culpability, but at thee end of the day, the institution does what it does largely through the codified "will" of the electorate that has so empowered the institution to do what it do.
"without having looked to the state capital and the laws still in effect on the books which MANDATE such vaccinations."
mandate?
vaccinations?
If you allow yourself or your children to be vaccinated because it is "mandated" by any institution you are a SLAVE.
That's exactly what it means to be a Plantation Negro.
To abdicate your will and your well being to the state.
Any conformity rooted in status-seeking - rather than maximum potential competency and proficiency-seeking - is plantation.
Type'a'shit that gave your hero marcellus ali feet of clay....,
Only the twisted imagination and self-delusion of misanthropic hater could twist the profound and beautifully inspiring story of Muhammad Ali into a narrative of 'failure'.
If Ali failed ... who has ever succeeded?
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I wasn't tripp'n because they carry out their job descriptions. I expect these "professionals" to act out routine directives regardless if they fortuitously align with their own principles or not. It's what they "enlisted" to do.
My problem is with the bullying atmosphere they create by suggesting it's an act of negligence and recklessness on the part of parents that do not vaccinate. In reality the majority of parents that vaccinate do so, not because of studious inquiry, but because the act is nothing more than a Tropical Mountain Capri Sun-stained page stapled on to a school supply list & PTA dates.
I believe it's more important, practical, immediate and empowering to just not vaccinate in regards to the state capital. Taking it to state capital gives them social capital. Makes them an important process. Even if vaccinations weren't mandated, I'm sure the pharma machine would still work it's way into folks veins. The answer is to create a culture of concern.
Everybody just touching the surface.
http://metanoia-films.org/hr_watchonline.php
This flicks above breaks it down from Taylorism to,Stalin to Skinner to Gatto, to Rockfeller, history of compulsory education etc., etc., It is broken down to show that we have just been design as machines. Flesh and blood machines, but replaceable machine.
The mix is mind boggling. check it out.
Great overview. Even Techno might like it.
Malcolm X heroically transcended every limit he ever encountered. Sadly, however, he sacrificed the greatness that he had become due to his naive, futile, and unrequited love of dogs with feet of clay.
At the very peak of his celebrity, Marcellus Clay was unworthy to wash the feet of El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz...,
My problem is with the bullying atmosphere they create by suggesting it's an act of negligence and recklessness on the part of parents that do not vaccinate.
The fact of the matter is that it's a sincerely held conviction supported by the weight of overwhelming empirical data. Add to that that it's part of the school's state legal requirement in order to operate, and what you refer to as "bullying" is nothing more than the sincere and transparent institutional implementation of an established and codified pattern of culture.
In reality the majority of parents that vaccinate do so, not because of studious inquiry, but because the act is nothing more than a Tropical Mountain Capri Sun-stained page stapled on to a school supply list & PTA dates.
BINGO!! All because they want the free babysitting service and when they're denied access to that service for a couple of days, they get those vaccinations done with head-spinning alacrity.
I believe it's more important, practical, immediate and empowering to just not vaccinate in regards to the state capital. Taking it to state capital gives them social capital. Makes them an important process. Even if vaccinations weren't mandated, I'm sure the pharma machine would still work it's way into folks veins.
GCV, this is a wad of Moorish Science that's beneath you brah. The schools are public agencies obliged to comply with state law in order to access their public funding sources. It's really no more complicated than that and speculation concerning what the "pharma machine" would or would not do adds no clarity or transparency to the discussion.
The answer is to create a culture of concern.
The immediate individual answer is to simply boycott these public agencies altogether. The systemic answer is to organize and fund a political action committee that can concretely engage the topic on multiple levels simultaneously, in the arenas of public opinion, the courts, and in the legislature - all at once. Everything else is idle conversation, with much of that tending toward erroneous nonsense.
"The systemic answer is to organize and fund a political action committee that can concretely engage the topic on multiple levels simultaneously, in the arenas of public opinion, the courts, and" yada yada yawn ....
Silly Technocratic wannabe nonsense.
Smart people who love themselves will refuse the vaccines.
Peasants who wish to depend on "da state" (Plantation) will get them.
Just like they will continue to eat the denatured food of the Plantation which ultimately IS a form of 'vaccination' in itself.
You don't need a "political action committee" to keep you from eating shit.
You shouldn't need a "political action committee" to keep you from injecting and ingesting toxic chemicals.
Then I look at the paper and see unemployed educated African-Americans standing in a job fair line touting their education and credentials...Ed
They're not standing in the unemployment line because of their academic credentials. They're there because of the games the oligarchic psychopathocracy played on 9/15.
http://www.sonyclassics.com/insidejob/
Bears repeating in the face of stupidity: The immediate individual answer is to simply boycott these public agencies altogether. The systemic answer is to organize and fund a political action committee that can concretely engage the topic on multiple levels simultaneously, in the arenas of public opinion, the courts, and in the legislature - all at once. Everything else is idle conversation, with much of that tending toward erroneous nonsense.
The systemic answer remains valid and crucial because the state will continue levying and collecting property taxes to fund its schooling institutions. If you want to exercise any control over how and where the money that the state extracts from you is spent, it's going to be crucial to engage on multiple simultaneous levels in order to effect change.
or, you can withhold your taxes and wind up in a place with big burly men who eat an exclusive diet of fried balony sandwiches and have fruity vegan booty for desert....,
HotmfWax, I checked the video. No doubt, the video breaks all this down to its very last compound!
There is a big difference between being educated and being taught...the problem seems to be when people depend on other people who could care less about educating people to learn how to learn..how to do for self..who they are.. and how to insure that they create their own institutions... and not black so called universities teaching slave mentality skills... how to develop a relationship and create and maintain a family...how to approach nutrition and mental and physical maintenance( you discontinue recess for more classroom learning time...WTF...that's why you have the so called obesity problem leading to numerous health problems and a continued thought pattern of ignoring our mental and physical health...the current generation has fallen for the "drug solution"..and continued cycle of looking for different results but not doing different approaches...as big brother continues his enslavement tactics the so called educators continue to miseducated.
Define being educated. Is it ones ability to learn a skill/trade? The ability to build a house or manage money? The ability to know where to cut when performing surgery?
There is a great amount of good that come from institutionalized education. However, assertiveness, creativity, individuality, and the pursuit of furthering/bettering yourself depends on the person and should be cultivated by the parents.
In other words, school can teach you how to build a house. Only your parents can teach you why its important to do it for yourself.
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