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I just wanna know whats up with white boys and the uncontrollable rage, heavy breathing stuff. Cats foaming at the mouth and shyt... cultural gap fa sho. Reminds me of Martin talkin' bout "crazy and deraaaanged!?" Brothas aren't immune but the raging bull stuff is a bit much.Any sistas been with a brotha who behaved like this when he was upset, extremely pissed or whatever? Don't act like none of you have ever been cussed smooth the F out AND knew you'd earned it.
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When I read Gladwell... nevermind....LIke most great minds you too can be completely imbecilic...jeez...
If that TRULY is Mel Gibson's voice (and I hope it's not, because I'll never be able to watch another of his movies again without busting up laughing), then his girlfriend has gotten the last laugh. The man is breathing HEAVY while he's talking shit.
I mean the man seems to REALLY, REALLY like his blowjobs BEFORE (not after bitch, but BEFORE) he gets his Jacuzzi on.
(and I hope it's not, because I'll never be able to watch another of his movies again without busting up laughing),"
lol ... I feel you man.
But ...
I aint mad at Mel.
I'm tired of these punany ass punked out gender blurred post-feminist de facto homo muhfuggas scared to express themselves to their women.
Shiiii...
I know a few sistas wish their man was that demonstrative.
I understand that. But I think this is more than just expressing himself. He's going off on tangents about pre- and post-jacuzzi blowjobs like it's an egregious offense (personally I prefer mine DURING the jacuzzi, but to each his own).
In all seriousness, I think he's either high, or having a mental break while he's talking to her. If that were my brother or friend I'd get the dude some help.
I don't know Mrs. MOTI, but if you were woofing some stuff like that, wouldn't you expect to see at least ONE frying pan come flying in your direction?
For all the fake indignation I've seen among the pundits, I'll bet at least half of them have carried on like that too at least once in their life.
Well, maybe Mel's next movie can be My Passion For The Punani.
Subtitle: Cheers!
DV, stop with the toasts to Mel Gibson! He's an asshole with obviuous problems. You will lose ALL credibility with me if you hold him up as some symbol of manhood. This he certainly is not! Manhood is not exemplified by abuse...whether or not this chick is a money grubbing bimbo and whether or not other males have acted similarly. I'd be disappointed to learn that you EVER acted like this, or spoke to any woman this way.
PS, stop talking about what sistas want. You are mistaken if you think we want this shit!
RJEsq
lol ...
Nah Robyn.
I feel ya.
I didn't think that would be your interpretation of these posts. It didn't occur to me you might read it as some kind of ... "endorsement".
I simply find Mel .... H.I.L.A.R.I.O.U.S.
And human.
I find the conversion of the private conversations into occasions of public scorn distasteful.
I'm convinced if you secretly recorded anybody ... all the time ... you could turn anyone into Mel Gibson.
Obviously the cat was having a moment.
We can't let what a man says in 3 minutes represent his entire life.
I'm making light of the situation as a counterpoint to the digital stoning brewing among Goody-Two-Shoe liberals poised to play Cpt. Save-A-Ho and Sgt. Crucify-The-Man.
Personally Robyn, I believe it takes two to Tango.
Nothing happens in a vacuum.
People don't just treat other people a certain way without ... permission.
Any chick, that is supposed to be a man's woman, the mother of his child ... but secretly records him like the fuggin cops ... to essentially destroy his career ... is capable of doing quite a bit to antagonize and instigate.
The sound bites that have been released show Mel at his worst, and they show Oksana at her "passive", "victimized", "calm and reasonable" best.
I smell bullshit.
As far as 'what sistas want' ... that is the kind of thing that speaks for itself.
Self evident.
I'd bet you that tomorrow morning, more women would choose to be with a Mel Gibson than a Harold Ford Jr.
"The sound bites that have been released show Mel at his worst, and they show Oksana at her "passive", "victimized", "calm and reasonable" best.
I smell bullshit."
On point DV-
Coming into play from the Conspiracy Side of the blogsphere:
"
- REGARDING THE STORY OF HIM SAYING HE HIT HER, ITS A FAKE
THE WHOLE SENTENCE WHERE SHE TALK OF WHAT KIND OF MAN WILL HIT A WOMAN WHILE SHE HAS A CHILD IN HER HAND AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, IS FAKE.
SHE IS READING FROM A PAPER, A SCRIPT, AND YOU CAN CLEALY HEAR IT.
SHE HAS A PAPER IN FRONT OF HER THAT ALICIA MADE FOR HER TO READ FORM.
LIKE ALICIA MADE A PAPER FOR HER ON THE MOSCOW INTERVIEW, AND IT CAN BE SEEN IN THE VIDEO FROM APRIL 19, 2010.
SHE HAS THE SAME VOICE HERE, AS SHE HAD IN APRIL 19 IN MOSCOW, WHILE SHE WAS READING A TEXT FROM A PAPER.
SHE JUST MADE THE MISTAKE TO SET HERSELF UP..
IT IS NOT A REACTION TO WHAT MEL GIBSON IS SAYING, NOR IS IT SOMETHING SHE COME TO THINK OF AND WANTED TO TELL HIM.
IT WAS SCRIPTED IN ADVANCE.
AND 90% OF WHAT SHE SAYS SOUNDS ABSOLUTLY SCRIPTED AND READ UP FROM A PAPER.
- HER VOICE IS UNATURALLY NEUTRAL THE WHOLE TIME.
- SHE DO NOT ANSWER TO WHAT HE SAYS TO HER.
- SHE DO NOT REACT TO WHAT HE IS SAYTING
- SHE IS JUST TRYING THE WHOLE TIME TO CAREFULLY PLANT SPECIFIC SENTENCES, AT WELL CHOSEN TIME, KNOWING THAT HE IS NOT EVEN LISTENG TO WHAT SHE IS SAYING.
- IT IS OBVIOUS THAT SHE MADE SEVERAL TAKES, TO CAN GET THE MOST APROXIMATELY CONVINCING RESULT THAT WE CAN SEE HERE.
THEREFOR SHE TOOK CARE HERE, TO REPEAT "LISTEN TO ME"... "LISTEN TO ME"..
- HE SEVERAL TIME ASK WHAT SHE IS TALKING ABOUT, AND HE CLEARY DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT SHE IS TALKING ABOUT AND WHY SHE PUT A RESTRAINING ORDER ON HIM.
HE IS BEING SET UP 100% AND SHE THINK SHE CAN FOOL THE COURT WITH THAT ONE!
IT SOUNDS LIKE HE HAS BEEN PLAYED OUT BY HER THE WHOLE TIME, AND ONLY BEGIN TO REALISE IT NOW."
more Fake Stuff from the net:
THE SECOND TAPE SHOW THAT SHE MADE IT 2 WEEKS AGO OR LESS.
NOT IN JANUARY AS SHE INDUCED EVEREYONE OT BELIVE.. EVEN IN THE ACTUAL ARTICLE OF RADAR ONLINE, ABOUT THIS TAPE.
MEL GIBSON TALK OF THE RESTRAINING ORDER AT THE END OF IT AND ASK HER WHY SHE PUT ONE ON HIM
HE ALSO SAY SOMETHING VERY CRYPTIC..
"YOU GET A FUCKING RESTRAINING ORDER FOR WHAT??
WHAT DO YOU NEED A FUCKING RESTRIANING ORDER FOR?
FOR MAKING ME DRUNK AND DISORDERLY?
BUT SHE XXXXX YOU FOR WHAT?"
END OF TAPE - BUT NOT END OF THE CONVERSATION -
HE OBVIOUSLY DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON, AND DONT KNOW WHY SHE PUT A RESTRAINING ORDER ON HIM FOR.
IT SOUNDS LIKE HE IS SAYING:
"BUT -SHE- DID YOU FOR WHAT?"
- ALICIA IS THE WOMAN I MENTIONED BEFORE, WHO MADE THE VIDEO OF TCHERNOBYL FOR HER, AND WHO FOLLOWED HER TO MOSCOW.
SHE ALSO SEEMNS TO HAVE HELPED OKSA WITH THOSE RECORDINGS, AND SHE SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED BY THE SHERIFF AS WELL.
THIS TAPE WAS MADE AFTER THE RESTRAINING ORDER WAS MADE, A WEEK AFTER FATHER DAY.
SO IT IS VERY RECENT AND SO IS THE PREVIOUS TAPE RECORDING.
MEANING THAT THIS WHOLE TAPE THING WAS MADE IN RECENT WEEKS, RIGHT AFTER THE RESTRAINING ORDER WAS PUT ON HIM.
SO THIS ONE CAME FIRST, AND THE FIRST TAPE WE HEARD CAME AFTER. UNLESS THE FIRST TAPE WAS FROM APRIL.
IT IS VERY ODD THAT NOBODY IS TELLING WHEN EXACTLY THOSE RECORDINGS TOOK PLACE.
THE TIMELINE IS ESSSENTIAL TO FOUND OUT WHAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS WERE ACTUALY ABOUT.
BUT THE MENTION OF THE RESTRAINING ORDER GIVE US THE TIMELINE FOR WHEN THIS WAS MADE, AND IT TOTALY DESTROY HER CASE AGAISNT HIM.
IT CHANGES EVERYTHING.
THEREFOR SHE TOOK CARE TO DONT HAVE THIS INFORMATION GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC, WHEN SELLING THOSE TAPES TO RADAR ONLINE.
IF THOSE RECORDING HAD BEEN DATED, THEY WILL DESTROY HER CASE ENTIRELY.
HERE IS WHY:
SHE CAN'T HAVE PUT A RESTRAINING ORDER ON HIM BASED ON THE REASON THAT HE WAS VERBALY ABUSIVE TO HER, WHEN THE TAPES WERE MADE AFTER THE RESTRAINING ORDER TOOK PLACE.
AND SHE CANT USE THIS TO PROVE THAT HE WAS PHYSICALY ABUSIVE TO HER, WHEN HE DO NOT SAY THAT HE HIT HER, BUT ASK TWICE "WHAT??" wHAT??" SHOWING THAT HE HAS NO CLUE AS TO WHAT SHE IS REFERING TO.
HE SAYS, AFTER: "OH NOW YOU ARE ANGRY" AND SEEMS KIND OF ESTONISHED THAT HE COULD GET SOME KIND OF REACTION FROM THAT ICE COLD FEELINGLESS MANIPUALTING STONE, WHO DIDNT REACTED TO ANYHTING HE SAID TO HER, WITH ANY SHRED OF EMOTION.
"YOU DESERVE IT" REFER TO THAT SHE DESERVE TO FEEL ANGRY NOW, AND DESERVED TO BE CALL NAMES AND HEAR HOW HE FEELS ABOUT HER, AS HE JUST TOLD HER.
BUT HE HAS NO CLUE OF WHAT SHE JSUT SAID.
HE SAID "YOU DESERVE IT" REFERING TO WHAT HE JUST SAID TO HER, AND WHAT HE JUST CALL HER, AND NOT TO ANY IMAGINARY BEATING INCIDENT WHO OCCURED MONTHS AGO.
HE IS IN THE HERE AND NOW, TOTALY UPSET AND FOCUSED ON THE RESTRAINING ORDER SHE PUT ON HIM, AND TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF IT AND UNDERSTAND WHY SHE DID THAT TO HIM.
SHE IS ON THE CALCULATING CORNER, SETTING HIM UP FOR LONG TERM USE.
SHE CUTED OFF THE BEGINING AND THE END OF THE RECORDING FOR OBVIOUS REASONS:
SO THAT THE PUBLIC WONT HAVE A CLUE EITHER, AND COULD EASILY BE MANIPULATED INTO BELIEVING, WHAT EVER DIRECTION AND MEANING WAS MADE IN ADVANCE BY HER AND RADAR ONLINE,OF WHAT THAT TAPE WAS ABOUT.
SO PEOPLE HEAR WHAT RADAR TOLD THEM TO HEAR AND UNDERSTAND BUT NOT WHAT IS ACTUALY BEING SAID.
ONE WONDER WHY RADAR NEEDED TO PUT SUCH A LONG ARTICLE WITH THAT AUDIO, AND TO WARM UP THE PUBLIC WITH HIGH AND ALREADY DISTORDED EXPECTATIONS, WEEKS IN ADVANCE, IF IT WASN'T TO REDIRECT THE PUBLIC OPINION TO WHAT THEY WANTED THEM TO HEAR IN THAT TAPE.
MAKING Á FAILED ATTEMPT TO MAKE IT INTO AND HAVE IT SOUNDS LIKE AN ALL INCRIMINATING EVIDENCE AGAINST MEL GIBSON, WHEN IT IS AT BEST SUSPICIOUS AND VERY CIRCUMSTANTIAL, AND AT WORSE ONLY PROIVE THAT HE IS TOTALY INNOCENT ON ALL CHARGES, AND THAT OKSANA MADE UP THOSE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND THREATS ALLEGATIONS, AFTER SHE HAD PUT A RESTRAINING ORDER ON MEL GIBSON, AND NOT THE OPPOSITE..
SO SHE FIRST PUT AN UNFOUNDED RESTRAINING ORDER ON MEL GIBSON, THEN CREATED FAKE EVIDENCES TO SUPPORT HER CASE.
ITS CALL CONDITIONING AND MANIPUALTING PEOPLE'S BRAIN.
ITS ALL ALLEGATIONS AND PRE PALNTED INSINUATIONS AND AFFIRMATIONS, ON THE MEDIA (OKSANA VIA RADAR) TO HAVE PEOPLE BE RECEPTIVE TO WHAT IS NOT SAID IN THAT TAPE.
AND IT IS SEVERAL SERIOUS CRIMINAL CHARGES ON OKSANA SIDE, TO HAVE FILED A RESTRAINING ORDER AGAINST MEL GIBSON, WITH NO REASONS TO JUSTIFY IT.
THEY TRY TO MAKE MEL GIBSON SAY WHAT HE NEVER SAID AND TO MAKE THAT RECORDING BE ABOUT WHAT IT ISN'T ABOUT.
THANK GOD, WE GOT THE KEY, AT THE END OF THE TAPE, OF WHAT THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION WAS ACTUALY ABOUT, WITH THE RESTRAINING ORDER TALK.
SO WE KNOW THAT THIS TAPE IS ABOUT THE UNJUSTIFIED RESTRAINING ORDER, AND NOT SOME INCIDENT OCCURING MONTHS AGO.
THE TAPE IS EXTREMLLY RECENT.
ITS NOT EVEN FROM APRIL NOR MAY, ITS FROM LESS THAN 2 WEEKS AGO!
SHE SET HIM UP AFTER SHE HAD PUT A RESTRAINING ORDER ON HIM, THAT SHE THEN HAD TO JUSTIFY, OR LOSE CUSTODY...
THATS WHAT THIS TAPE IS ABOUT.
Hotwax that long ass explanation however accurate makes him to me look even more guilty..damn homie all a dat for Mel's bitch ass..the truth usually doesn't need that damn much explaining..Ok admittedly Ive gon batshit crazy on a number of occasions with a couple chicks in the past..but I don't think that's commendable behavior for a man. It's some that old bitchassness that every man with a heart may experience when he's in love with what he knows to be a ho. But Mel shouldn't be necessarily punished for what he said but for negating rule number #2 in the players handbook "never let a bitch catch you slippin'". For that he should get the proverbial media smackdown for.
"It's some that old bitchassness that every man with a heart may experience when he's in love with what he knows to be a ho."
Yep.Yep...... or woman for that matter.
DV, I certainly caught on to the meat of your point, i.e., "now Mel maybe you tomorrow." However, IMO, in your pursuit of creating your own media, your own memes so to speak, you must be careful of leading taglines that read "Mel is my favorite whiteboy" and "mel dont love them hoes." Both in modern vernacular being positive lead ins and thus a form of celebration of this asshole.
RJEsq.
"Mel is my favorite whiteboy" and "mel dont love them hoes."
"Both in modern vernacular being positive lead ins and thus a form of celebration of this asshole."
I hear you R.
But make no mistake about it.
It is my intent to be positive.
I'm positive towards Mel Gibson. The man. The person. The individual. The human being.
I don't share you gross categorical generalization which reduces the man to "an asshole".
To me, his monumental and extremingly meaningful film Apocalypto ... tells me more about him than a secretly recorded conversation between him and his woman.
I don't care how many times he's used the "N"igger word.
I'd take 1 Mel Gibson over 1,000 Milquetoast conformist Plantation Crackas who never say Nigger ... but don't stand for shit.
I'd take 1 Mel Gibson over 1,000 scared, head-in-the-sand, Chickless, can't commit to a woman, de facto homo Negros ... who aint never curse a bitch out.
Feel me?
I'd still be cursing this b**** out. What major disrespect.
How can you be so sneaky? How can you comfortably put the man on blast who has been your sponsor of the year?
She has given the ammo to put this man's career on total pause. What the f*** is that gonna do for your daughter? I'd secretly pay a chick to slap the shit out of her if I were Mel.
There are limitations when fighting nasty. Not to mention the relationship between father and mother is ruined for now. She put her child's father on blast. How dumb does that make her look.
This is not fair at all.
Just like those punk b**** dudes who release their ex boos naked photos online (though the jury is still out on that).
The media is making a holiday of bashing this man. I'd be pissed if my private conversations were out like this.
I'm feeling Mahogany!
I just wanna know whats up with white boys and the uncontrollable rage, heavy breathing stuff. Cats foaming at the mouth and shyt... cultural gap fa sho. Reminds me of Martin talkin' bout "crazy and deraaaanged!?" Brothas aren't immune but the raging bull stuff is a bit much.
Any sistas been with a brotha who behaved like this when he was upset, extremely pissed or whatever? Don't act like none of you have ever been cussed smooth the F out AND knew you'd earned it.
KP
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lol ...
Nah Robyn.
I feel ya.
I didn't think that would be your interpretation of these posts. It didn't occur to me you might read it as some kind of ... "endorsement".
I simply find Mel .... H.I.L.A.R.I.O.U.S.
And human.
I find the conversion of the private conversations into occasions of public scorn distasteful.
I'm convinced if you secretly recorded anybody ... all the time ... you could turn anyone into Mel Gibson.
Obviously the cat was having a moment.
We can't let what a man says in 3 minutes represent his entire life.
I'm making light of the situation as a counterpoint to the digital stoning brewing among Goody-Two-Shoe liberals poised to play Cpt. Save-A-Ho and Sgt. Crucify-The-Man.
Personally Robyn, I believe it takes two to Tango.
Nothing happens in a vacuum.
People don't just treat other people a certain way without ... permission.
Any chick, that is supposed to be a man's woman, the mother of his child ... but secretly records him like the fuggin cops ... to essentially destroy his career ... is capable of doing quite a bit to antagonize and instigate.
The sound bites that have been released show Mel at his worst, and they show Oksana at her "passive", "victimized", "calm and reasonable" best.
I smell bullshit.
As far as 'what sistas want' ... that is the kind of thing that speaks for itself.
Self evident.
I'd bet you that tomorrow morning, more women would choose to be with a Mel Gibson than a Harold Ford Jr.
You are so right DV, what kind of woman would... and there lies the problem, "THE WOMAN THAT SHE IS" .Why didn't she go to the police if she was so threaten? Mel has a problem with anger and abuse, he does need some help. However to do what she did, is mean and shows me that either she is scare or mad because he is not giving her money. If she really cared for him she would not have sold it to RadarOnline which made it cheap and not serious.
Sounds fishy to me, and no, Mel is not a racist. He has issue, he's human.
David Brooks shoots a rare two-fer bullseye hitting both Mel Gibson and Denmark Vesey right between their beady little eyes; The Gospel of Mel Gibson
Let us enter, you and I, into the moral universe of the modern narcissist.
The narcissistic person is marked by a grandiose self-image, a constant need for admiration, and a general lack of empathy for others. He is the keeper of a sacred flame, which is the flame he holds to celebrate himself.
There used to be theories that deep down narcissists feel unworthy, but recent research doesn’t support this. Instead, it seems, the narcissist’s self-directed passion is deep and sincere.
His self-love is his most precious possession. It is the holy center of all that is sacred and right. He is hypersensitive about anybody who might splatter or disregard his greatness. If someone treats him slightingly, he perceives that as a deliberate and heinous attack. If someone threatens his reputation, he regards this as an act of blasphemy. He feels justified in punishing the attacker for this moral outrage.
And because he plays by different rules, and because so much is at stake, he can be uninhibited in response. Everyone gets angry when they feel their self-worth is threatened, but for the narcissist, revenge is a holy cause and a moral obligation, demanding overwhelming force.
Mel Gibson seems to fit the narcissist model to an eerie degree. The recordings that purport to show him unloading on his ex-lover, Oksana Grigorieva, make for painful listening, and are only worthy of attention because these days it pays to be a student of excessive self-esteem, if only to understand the world around.
The story line seems to be pretty simple. Gibson was the great Hollywood celebrity who left his wife to link with the beautiful young acolyte. Her beauty would not only reflect well on his virility, but he would also work to mold her, Pygmalion-like, into a pop star.
After a time, she apparently grew tired of being a supporting actor in the drama of his self-magnification and tried to go her own way. This act of separation was perceived as an assault on his status and thus a venal betrayal of the true faith.
It is fruitless to analyze her end of the phone conversations because she knows she is taping them. But the voice on the other end is primal and searing.
That man is like a boxer unleashing one verbal barrage after another. His breathing is heavy. His vocal muscles are clenched. His guttural sounds burst out like hammer blows.
He pummels her honor, her intelligence, her womanhood, her maternal skills and everything else. Imagine every crude and derogatory word you’ve ever heard. They come out in waves. He’s not really arguing with her, just trying to pulverize her into nothingness, like some corruption that has intertwined itself into his being and now must be expunged.
It is striking how morally righteous he is, without ever bothering to explain what exactly she has done wrong. It is striking how quickly he reverts to the vocabulary of purity and disgust. It is striking how much he believes he deserves. It is striking how much he seems to derive satisfaction from his own righteous indignation.
David Brooks?
lol.
NYTimes?
The Chosen?
LOL.
Pontificating about morality and narcissism?
I'm sooooooo surprised dude is casting the first stone at Mel Gibson.
Too laughable for words.
Come on CNu.
You can do a better job finding a proxy to rationalize your obsessive envy and personal sense of inadequacy.
Tell David Brooks to "Get off of Mel Gibson's Dick".
lol..,
You can always tell how well the stone hit the dog by the quality of its yelp...,
Total and irreversible self-destruction by a trick smacked clean out.of.his.mind;
she ride him
guide him
into.the.concrete....,
Go Mel, regulate that cold-hearted Mossad bitch.
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