"There is no force like success, and that is why the individual makes all effort to surround himself throughout life with the evidence of it; as of the individual, so should it be of the nation."Marcus Garvey
Sunday, May 16, 2010
You Unimaginative Negros Won't Get This Method To The Madness
"There is no force like success, and that is why the individual makes all effort to surround himself throughout life with the evidence of it; as of the individual, so should it be of the nation."Marcus Garvey
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The New York Times validation you're always discussing.
"College degrees are simply not necessary for many jobs. Of the 30 jobs projected to grow at the fastest rate over the next decade in the United States, only seven typically require a bachelor’s degree, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. "
"They would steer some students toward intensive, short-term vocational and career training, through expanded high school programs and corporate apprenticeships."
Interesting Big Man.
Interesting.
The Impending Irrelevance of School.
Thing that concerns me, is that even this article, which is beginning to acknowledge the obvious ... is still talking about preparing kids to get "jobs".
I see the concept of "job" becoming obsolete even faster than the concept of Brick n Mortar schools.
I doubt any of my children will ever hold "jobs" ... in the traditional sense of the word.
What you make of this article Big Man?
I've long advocated for folks to avoid crippling debt to go to college and I often encourage young brothers to develop "skills."
I think it's a powerful thing when you don't have to depend on a "boss" to make a living and provide for your family. Nobody is truly independent, but you can decrease you're level of dependence. It's much harder to pursue your passions and your skills if you're staring a mountain of student loans.
Besides, I think that if your work involves the creation of things or services that are essential to people's lives, you're much less likely to be affected by the whims of the economy. Too many folks, black folks in particular, have jobs that have obvious expiration dates, which is one reason why we are hit so hard in times like this. We need skillsets that are not easily duplicated.
You often discuss the impending irrelevance of school, but you have not defined what you mean by "school." You and others are fond of referring to this website as "school." I think that learning never goes out of style, and I think humans will always gather in groups to learn because there is value in that type of interaction. Now, the way we teach kids and how we educate them when they are in those groups is likely to change, but there will always be brick and mortar "schools" because the internet and webcams can only do so much.
On college, I think it's a valuable experience if you don't go deep into debt to have it. College can help you refine certain skills, gain valuable experiences and provide you with widely accepted credentials to get your foot in the door in many fields. There are other ways to do all of those things, but just because there are other ways to do something doesn't mean that college is pointless.
Finally, you'll have to explain what you mean by the traditional sense of the word "job."
What do you consider a traditional "job"?
"I think that if your work involves the creation of things or services that are essential to people's lives, you're much less likely to be affected by the whims of the economy."
Very true.
Particularly if we are careful in our designations of that which is "essential to peoples lives".
Of course the basics of food and shelter are essential, but we must remember that things like art and meaning are equally essential to peoples lives.
We need a system that not only produces "workers" but a system that also produces thinkers and creators.
The education system we have now stifles creativity.
The political system we have now suppresses creative thought.
I call it The Impending Irrelevance of School for two reasons:
1) Technology & Money. The education system is already computerized.
The brick n mortar buildings are the technological equivalents of floppy discs. Unnecessary.
The costs to maintain buildings to house millions of American children, sitting at computers anyway, will overwhelm bankrupt school districts.
2 No Demand For The Product. Schools don't educate. They prepare people to be employees. Technology and outsourcing make full time American employees obsolete.
Schools are like factories that produce VCR's.
However, to me that is all good news.
We need to reinvent the system of EDUCATION as desperately as we need to reinvent our food system.
Reengineering our education system is a chance to reengineer our people.
I think you need bricks and mortar buildings because humans will not get their social fix simply through webcams and videos. People still live to touch, see, feel and smell each other. Now, if technology can somehow replicate that process, which is not imposssible by any means, then maybe you're right. But, as of now, I see schools changing their formats, changing how they impart knowledge and what they expose children too.
Schools were always designed to indoctrinate. From their inception, socialization and indoctrination went hand in hand with imparting knowledge. I mean, most of the early schools in the this country were linked to religious organizations to make sure children were indoctrinated into the religion of their parents' choice while they also learned to read and write. Early freedmen schools used the Bible as a main text to improve literacy, which of course served a dual purpose.
I don't see full-time American employees become obsolete. But, even if you're right, I'm curious how you can champion this occurrence, while at the same time complain about the possibility of a single world government.
Globalization, which is what helps breed outsourcing, is tied to the ultimate idea of a single world government or at least competing governments run by massive corporations.
How do you reconcile the two ideas? You see technology and outsourcing as positives, but you see a single world government as a negative? You don't see the connection between those things?
"humans will not get their social fix simply through webcams and videos." Big Man
They do now.
That's why we are all here.
As the technology improves the interaction will become more dynamic.
Big Man, already 70% of adult American spoken words are spoken into telephones.
When people are together ... the TV is on.
Yes, the idea of touchy feely get-togethers between kids is nice but ... who is going to PAY for a $200 Billion school system so kids can mix and mingle between their computer lessons?
Don't forget Big Man. Our nation is broke.
"I don't see full-time American employees become obsolete." Big Man.
Really?
Who do you see employing them?
Which industries do you anticipate will be willing and able to pay 4 times more for American employees to do a job that can be done internationally for 1/4 the cost?
"I'm curious how you can champion this occurrence," Big Man
Acknowledging the inevitable is not championing its occurrence.
If it was up to me, my sons would attend the schools I attended, sleep in the same dorms, graduate from the same ROTC, go to the same jump schools, travel to where I traveled ...
but it aint up to me.
They will face an entirely different world.
Most of us are on Automatic Pilot ... programmed to provide for our kids "What we had and more"...
Not realizing we are teaching our children to sail boats when they will be living in the space age.
"Globalization, which is what helps breed outsourcing, is tied to the ultimate idea of a single world government or at least competing governments run by massive corporations." Big Man
Again. Intelligence is pattern recognition.
Recognizing the patterns that make outsourcing and globalization inevitable is not synonymous with championing globalization and outsourcing.
Fact is, as you and I chat, there is someone somewhere trying to figure out how to do whatever job your company does without the expense of you.
We have to raise a generation of children equipped to employ themselves. Which is the only protection from outsourcing.
That said ...
Morehouse aint going to be here in 10 years.
Nah, I think Morehouse will be here in 10 years, if I was a gambler, I'd take that bet.
Now, 20 years? Maybe you're right.
I say you champion outsourcing because on another thread you made a point of noting that for the last project you needed some outside help for, you turned to some cats from India rather than use somebody from the states because it was just a more sensible policy.
Now, I'm all for making sound financial decisions, but we all know that cats truly vote with their pocketbooks. What we support, we support financially, what we abhor, we boycott financially. Isn't the basic premise of your "Eat Healthy" meme? You champion spending more on food because you believe it's in your ultimate best interest and worth the additional expense to eat a certain way.
Do you think participating in the increased globalization and outsourcing of labor is in your best interest and the best interest of your children?
And, I said I don't see American employees becoming obsolete, I didn't say I see them enjoying the same standard of living their parents enjoyed.
Hell, that's already the case, so why would I dispute that employers are looking for cheaper labor?
The thing is, you can reduce the quality of life of American workers and still convince them of how great it is to be an American worker. Plus, in order to maintain the status quo you have to create a certain "buffer" between the financial elite and the lower classes. You can't do that if you completely eliminate the jobs that keep the middle class workers content. You have figure out a way to balance their needs, with your greed or you risk complete chaos.
That's the thing about this one world government idea. I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm saying that the means by which you seem to think it will be estabished don't add up.
If you want to control people you give them jobs, you don't strip those jobs away. Jobs allow people the means to be consumers, and it's easier to control consumers. There is only so much unemployment a stable civilization can support.
This is utter blasphemy. The Honorable Marcus Moziah Garvey never advocated for conspicuous consumption and impulsive hedonism. He was referring to a free, proud, and productive people enjoying the fruits of their labor as a nation.
[Desire is the lifeblood, the psychoanatomical infrastructure of the imperialistic White racist economic/psycho-political system. Insatiable, nymphomaniacal desire, and the endemically compulsive and fruitless intercourse required to maintain its functionality, are the fuels which energize and motivate its behavioral organization, the universal joints which coordinate, control, and regulate the functional workings of its constituent parts. The production of desire and the manufacturing of accessory insatiable needs, envies, unrequitable alienation, invidious comparisons, and relative feelings of deprivation, are the primary and quintessential cultural activities upon which all else depends.
The irrational economy of White America, based as it is on irrational consumption, requires a high level of impulsivity and economic stupidity in its population.; all the more in its lower classes and subordinated African American population. It requires a subordinate population molded and motivated by external, White American-instigated, desires and images. The White American racist commercialization of life, consciousness, and values are the sources of White racist hegemonic power and domination. The alleged inability of many African Americans to delay gratification; their tendency to compulsively invest vast sums of money and onerous credit in ephemeral, faddish symbols and icons, flashy styles of life; to achieve identity through conspicuous consumption and pursue validation through image management rather than substance; and to pursue these at whatever cost to self and community; is an economic and political necessity for maintaining White American dominance and African American subordination.] – Dr. Amos N. Wilson
Dr. Amos Wilson used 145 words to say dopamine hegemony...,
20 years?
LOL. I don't know Big Man. I hope you right. We'll see.
But shit.
The Soviet Union fell in less than 10 years.
Morehouse, as an institution, aint got them kind of legs.
If they graduate a Brick n Mortar class in 2030, I'll buy you an Astro-burger.
Do I outsource?
Absolutely.
I buy the cheapest Premium gas I can get too.
All commodities will be purchased at the cheapest price. Even labor.
Look at the labels inside your clothes Big Man.
"made in China" = outsourcing.
"Do you think participating in the increased globalization and outsourcing of labor is in your best interest and the best interest of your children?"
I think it is more in their best interest than not participating it.
(Paying 4 times more for what we need than the market price).
"I'm saying that the means by which you seem to think it will be estabished don't add up. " Big Man.
LOL. Big Man.
"will be set up"?
"will be"
Come on bra.
Been set up for a minute.
There are 192 member states of the United Nations.
How many governments do you think ultimately control them?
"If you want to control people you give them jobs," Big Man
No.
You give some of them jobs. Government jobs.
You keep the rest of them in debt, insecure and afraid.
They are more likely to stay in their place.
Take their shoes off at the airport.
Inject their children with sterilizing vaccines and drink mind numbing fluoridated water.
"The Honorable Marcus Moziah Garvey never advocated for conspicuous consumption and impulsive hedonism."
Bullshit uncreative pedestrian dogma.
"There is no force like success, and that is why the individual makes all effort to surround himself throughout life with the evidence of it; as of the individual, so should it be of the nation."
Makheru Bradley ... why do you think the Kings & Queens of England live in Buckingham Fucking Palace?
Why are there diamond tiaras on that old hags head?
Why do civilizations build monuments?
Why did the kings of Egypt build tombs made to last for thousands of years?
Why did Ashanti kings adorn their bodies from head to toe in gold?
Why do banks build giant skyscrapers with their logos emblazoned at the top?
Why does the President of the United States fly in a private jet equipped with a gymnasium?
Why do wealthy men build mansions on hills with indoor pools?
Why is Marcus Garvey SITTING IN THE SAME FUCKING CAR Weezy F. Baby is standing infront of with a fucking Napoleon hat on his head?
Lil Wayne and artists like him are doing EXACTLY what Garvey was talking about and exactly what every processed food eating bourgoise Plantation Negro in a 5,000 square foot McMansion is trying to do.
All of these hypocritical and holier than thou declarations of "conspicuous consumption and hedonism" directed at these particularly wealthy young black men are motivated more by jealousy and resentment of HOW they managed surround themselves with evidence of success than anything else.
They did it by rejecting the very value system in which Plantation Negros are overly invested.
If House Negro ass Bob Johnson was standing in front of one of his million dollar horses ... You'd pin the image on your kitchen wall right next to the pictures of Martin Luther King and JFK.
outsourcing and globalisation are proof yet again that the nation-state is a political fiction and migration caps are pointless. in some parts of the western world it is cheaper for sections of the working class to stay at home than be employed - its not always that unemployment and boredom are catalysts for unrest - cut social benefits and then you will see real unrest.
...and yes Marcus Garvey is a prophet, so is Bob Marley, pitting li'l wayne next either of them is blasphemy in RasTafarI.
We had this discussion before.
If the one world government in effect, why all the fuss about the impending doom from its establishment?
If it's already here, what's the big deal if it comes out of the shadows?
You can't have it both ways. Either it exists, and our current reality is its byproduct, or it's about to exist and our current reality is only the beginning. Which is it so I can no where you stand?
You keep the rest of them in debt, insecure and afraid
Most debt requires a job. McMansions require jobs, as do cars and credit cards.
People have to have jobs in order to acquire the things, which you then use as leverage to keep them under control.
After all, if I don't have any money and no job, what do I care about paying back your debt? I'll let that debt sit there and you can collect from the lint in my pockets. You need people working, so they in turn can buy more stuff, which in turn funnels money and power to the right folks.
The whole system doesn't work if you don't have the folks on the bottom working and buying stuff..
Without jobs, and without the safety nets that KW mentioned, you have folks hungry, sick and angry.
Those folks are dangerous. So, your best bet to maintain control is to give folks just enough to keep them quiet and docile.
You remember the story of the golden goose, right?
Do I outsource?
Absolutely.
I buy the cheapest Premium gas I can get too.
All commodities will be purchased at the cheapest price. Even labor.
Come on bra, tell me you see the obvious response to this.
What's your stance on buying the cheapest food?
Isn't you basic thesis that buying cheap ignores the long range effects? Don't you see how that relates to this discussion on outsourcing and globalization?
And if you support the system through your practices, how is that different from "Plantation Negroes" eating at McDonalds?
Both of y'all are taking the easy route in the present, and ignoring the possible consequences in the future.
Pattern recognition.
Konwomyn,
Outsourcing (euphemism for subcontracting) and globalization (new label for old phenomena) don't have any inherent effect on the nation-state.
The fact that a business may CHOOSE markets that cross nation-state boundaries and BUY labor outside his place of business SAYS NOTHING about the necessity of erasing borders.
"Dr. Amos Wilson used 145 words to say dopamine hegemony..." --CNu
Dopamine Hegemony = White racist supremacy
must be
one of those atheist "scientific" screeds
like I said before
this the NON-racist RACIST system of white supremacy
slap uh scientific label on it
give it credibility
but SCIENCE n RACISM...
An outright nullity...
"...and yes Marcus Garvey is a prophet, so is Bob Marley, pitting li'l wayne next either of them is blasphemy in RasTafarI." kay dub
yeah yeah yeah.
It's easy to call them "prophets".
Today.
During their time they were called much less by you educated black folks.
"Lunatic" and "Pot Head" come to mind.
Today it's fashionable to get misty eyed and contemplative about their songs and speeches.
Denmark Vesey is ahead of his time.
So I don't wait 30 years to give it up to whom I see it will be given up to later.
There's no other artists on the scene as creative, relevant or effective as this cat. Media genius in a media age.
Don't really expect ya'll to get it yet.
But in about 2020 I'll throw up yet another "NOT THAT I'M KEEPING SCORE" post.
;-]
Maybe by then one of ya'll will have the balls to give it up to ol' DV.
DV,
I agree with your general sentiment. I've been contending with individuals for years now about the decision not put my kids in ANY school. The contention is greatest within the family. But like good sheep, these sheepwalkers ALWAYS bahaahaaha right from the get go.
"BUT WHAT ABOUT SOCIALIZATION...?"
What about it??? Did you know that's CODE for liberalization?
Do you know what that means?
YOUR CHILD is being educated to exist as an all-accepting indiscriminate human being, i.e., to be nondiscriminatory and tolerant. You couldn't ask a child to be more irrelevant than live indiscriminately.
Like good sheep, they still can't see the wolf. And like dead sheep they can't see they're just being house and horded to live a life of irrelevancy.
Thordaddy,
"The fact that a business may CHOOSE markets that cross nation-state boundaries and BUY labor outside his place of business SAYS NOTHING about the necessity of erasing borders." TD
But it tells you that borders are being erased by corporates - sometimes in the most cutthroat ways. It also tells you that production is shifting along with whatever economic gain was to be made if cheap labour was allowed to move as freely as capital.
Big Man
Of course I'm well aware of the negative impact of outsourcing on those host communities which is why the erasure of the nation-state is a deeply complex issue - its not all smiles.
The positives are when communities rise up against govt and foreign corporates, but when nations sell off the land rights of indigienous peoples its a sign of corporatocracy creeping in...
Don't ask me abt places with military juntas, I'm still thinking.
There is something very consistent in rejecting American Exceptionalism AND the education of the masses in Liberal Orthodoxy.
The paradox is that at the moment of an unprecedented level of globally-communicating autonomy there is a palpable suppression of physical mobility.
BUT, this also suggests WE NEED NOT MOVE to "capitalize."
There is genesis of this reality in our education "system."
People can talk, but don't move...
Bahaahaaha... But don't hunt...
Minions accepting the "default elite."
If the one world government in effect, why all the fuss about the impending doom from its establishment?" Big Man
Big Man.
What you don't understand about a One World Government is that the danger is not in its establishment, but in its administration.
One World Government is simply a stage, a phase in a sick process of apotheosis.
Understand that this global government of technocrats is EXACTLY what Marx was talking about.
Understand the origins of what we call Marxism extend beyond Marx.
Peel that onion back and you get back on that Freemasonic Luciferian desire to play God.
"one world government in effect, why all the fuss about the impending doom" Big Man
lol.
How's this 1 World Government been working out for us so far Big Man?
Perpetual war.
National bankruptcy.
Skyrocketing unemployment.
The removal of the Creator God from the public sphere and the replacement with secular idols.
Explosive cancer rates and reduced fertility.
Patriot Acts and a private prison industry bursting at the scenes.
And these muhfuggas just getting started.
Konwomyn,
I didn't say forces weren't attempting to erase borders. I only said your attempt at declaring borders meaningless and then perpetuating the corporate/open borders meme MADE ASSUMPTIONS that aren't there.
Big corporations choose a MARKET that has them see the necessity of erasing borders TO INCREASE their business autonomy.
But this corporate realization tells us nothing about whether WE SHOULD erase borders?
Soundbites like "outsourcing" and "globalization" are autonomy maximizing/minimizing terms. In reality, these are "words of liberation" for opposing sides. Each side WANTS MORE autonomy AND NEITHER is looking at the higher order of things.
After all, a "borderless" environment is a nonexistent thing. Infinity is the closest one could come to "defining" such a concept.
Yes, some walls must come down. But some walls that fall will bring it all down. Choose those walls you destroy carefully.
"I agree with your general sentiment. I've been contending with individuals for years now about the decision not put my kids in ANY school. The contention is greatest within the family. But like good sheep, these sheepwalkers ALWAYS bahaahaaha right from the get go." Thordaddy
TD, I'm in the same boat.
Regarding school ... well ... I know better.
But I've got them there.
As they get older and this technology matures, I'm getting more comfortable with the idea of taking them out.
I doubt any of them will graduate from a brick and mortar high school.
I feel regarding the family.
lol.
Cutting the umbilical cord of Plantation Education is one of the hardest things to do.
"Yes, some walls must come down. But some walls that fall will bring it all down. Choose those walls you destroy carefully." TD
Impressive
The old model of lifestyle financing is broke. That's for sure... But the economic system also abhors self-sufficiency. So the question becomes a synergy between lifestyle financing, self-sufficiency and capitalization (growth).
We want to be self-sufficient BUT STILL GROW and we must finance this. This, along with simple reading/comprehension are the basics of what any parent should be teaching their kids.
Obviously, the study of the environment and its flow of sheep and wolves becomes another more detailed focus in the education continuum.
Ask any plantation cat what he learned in 6th grade that helped him be successful and he'll draw a predictable blank.
He learned nothing because he wasn't taught "success."
Makheru Bradley ... why do you think the Kings & Queens of England live in Buckingham Fucking Palace?
Why are there diamond tiaras on that old hags head?
Why do civilizations build monuments?
Why did the kings of Egypt build tombs made to last for thousands of years?
Why did Ashanti kings adorn their bodies from head to toe in gold?
Why do banks build giant skyscrapers with their logos emblazoned at the top?
Why does the President of the United States fly in a private jet equipped with a gymnasium?
Why do wealthy men build mansions on hills with indoor pools?
Why is Marcus Garvey SITTING IN THE SAME FUCKING CAR Weezy F. Baby is standing infront of with a fucking Napoleon hat on his head?
Simple - fear of death and non-existence (Thanatos) coupled with a futile desire to prolong life and experience (Eros)....,
Another thing any free man teaching his children wants to think about teaching is the "corporation."
Simply put, this is a legal and financial instrument used to MAXIMIZE the corporation's autonomy AND help protect the PERSONAL AUTONOMY of its founders.
Both the moral elite and "default elite" use the "corporation" to these aims. The elite use it AS INTENDED and help make it AVAILABLE TO ALL OF US through its proper use and the "default elite" champions "corporate anti-entities" TO WHICH the masses either become cheerleaders for battling corporate entities OR MAKE IT HARDER for US to utilize the corporate entity to our legal and financial advantage.
Why did the kings of Egypt build tombs made to last for thousands of years?—DV
Because they were a free, proud, and productive people, with technical skills unmatched in human history.
Why did Ashanti kings adorn their bodies from head to toe in gold?—DV
Because they were a free, proud, and productive people who controlled their own resources at that time.
Why is Marcus Garvey SITTING IN THE SAME FUCKING CAR Weezy F. Baby is standing infront of with a fucking Napoleon hat on his head?—DV
Everyone who’s studied an ounce of Garvey history knows that the great man had a massive ego, but leave it to a consumer to focus on the material aspects of Garvey’s image and equate it to an egomaniacal “pants on the ground” negro entertainer who has a habit of exploiting our history via such theatrics:
[they say you're nobody til somebody kills you
but where I’m from you're nobody til you kill somebody
and you know what they say
when you're great its not murder its assassinate
so assassinate me bitch
cuz I’m doin the same shit martin luther king did
checkin in the same hotel in the same suite bitch same balcony
like assinate me bitch ]
Lil Wayne and artists like him are doing EXACTLY what Garvey was talking about and exactly what every processed food eating bourgoise Plantation Negro in a 5,000 square foot McMansion is trying to do.—DV
That’s the epitome of asininity. Only the most pathological mind could consider these words uplifting.
[see i get better with time like a watch
osh b'gosh posh spice husband
couldnt kick it like i kick it bitch i kicks it
no cereal like a land and i sticks it
wateva she asks me after she licks it
thats too explicit but y u listenin
*SNIFFS* i smell smoke and somethin sizzlin
thats her pussy so hey pussy play wit pussy or play pussy]
Marcus Garvey formed the Negro Factories Corporation which operated a chain of grocery stores, laundries, restaurants, clothing stores, a doll factory, a publishing house, and a finance company. This ”pants on the ground” negro entertainer ain’t manufacturing jack shit but pathologies.
So you got so many diamonds(hey pussy lay pussy)
you wear all the finest clothes(do or die say pussy and i say)
and your grill is shining(lay pussy lay pussy lay pussy)
as you're driving down the streets of gold(Hey Pussy)
BUT YOU CANT BLAME ME IF I SET THIS STAGE ON FIRE(Hey Pussy Dont Play Pussy)
GET EM!!!
Yeah, I know, you got a picture of him hanging over your bed, right beside J. Edgar Hoover.
Dopamine Hegemony = White racist supremacy
must be
one of those atheist "scientific" screeds
like I said before
this the NON-racist RACIST system of white supremacy
slap uh scientific label on it
give it credibility
but SCIENCE n RACISM...
No peasant.
The dopamine hegemony supplanted overt systems of economic oppression stratified according to race, hereditary class, etc..,
Basically, it's a method of psychological addiction to dopamine by-products enabling producers to universally enslave and govern consumers through both Pavlovian conditioning and literal, structured addiction to dopamine byproducts.
The global system of white supremacy in its slaving, conquering and colonizing manifestations is a primitive precursor to the system of rule via dopamine hegemony.
Case in point, China - while remaining a centrally managed authoritarian dictatorship with a state owned central bank - has opened itself to economic and limited political rule via dopamine hegemony - in the process rendered itself open to cognitive and cultural infiltration that would have been unthinkable under more stringent Maoist rule.
India - the world's largest democracy and former British colony - has also equally and aggressively been brought under the sway of methods of dopaminergic hegemonic stimulation and rule.
The system of explicit political control is of little consequence once the methods of pavlovian conditioning via dopamine addiction are broadly in place.
Craig,
There is no biological mandate. The devout dyke order refutes it.
Craig,
How does "addiction" find itself in a world where God-ordained free will is insurmountable?
Are you saying white "supremacy" is really demonic degeneracy?
Because they were a free, proud, and productive people who controlled their own resources at that time.
You know better Bro. Makheru.
Both were militaristic empire building peoples who controlled lots of other people's resources via conquest and extraction of tribute.
The conspicuous displays in either culture stem from the same fear of death and urge to symbolic transcendence - barbarian culture.
How does "addiction" find itself in a world where God-ordained free will is insurmountable?
Are you saying white "supremacy" is really demonic degeneracy?
Barbarian culture is always degenerate...,
There is only so much unemployment a stable civilization can support.
Big Man,
How was epidemic unemployment throughout the industrialized world before and during the Great Depression resolved by all the events comprising WW-II?
Barbarian culture explained....,
"Why is Marcus Garvey SITTING IN THE SAME FUCKING CAR Weezy F. Baby is standing infront of with a fucking Napoleon hat on his head?"—DV
"Everyone who’s studied an ounce of Garvey history knows that the great man had a massive ego," MB
All men have egos. Cats taking images in front of $300,000 cars with Napoleon hats and diamond chains around their necks do so for reasons beyond "egos".
"but leave it to a consumer to focus on the material aspects of Garvey’s image" MB
Low-level analysis.
Let's allow Garvey to speak for himself Mak: "There is no force like success, and that is why the individual makes ALL EFFORT TO SURROUND HIMSELF THROUGHOUT LIFE with EVIDENCE of it;"
In every nation on earth, whether New York, New Orleans, Nairobi, Pretoria, London, Rome, Bejing, Rio, or Moscow ... A Rolls Royce Phantom serves as SYMBOL OF success.
You can TALK all that "conspicuous consumption / hedonism" BS you want. That's the Pavlovian response of all jealous people. Fact is when that sucker pulls up to the light, you are straining your neck to look through the tinted windows to see who is driving just like everyone else on the road.
Fact of the matter is ... IT WORKS.
A Rolls Royce phantom serves as evidence for success today for Lil Wayne as it did in 1920 for Marcus Garvey.
What you don't understand Mak, is that Garvey was referring to the SYMBOLIC value of what is generally considered "evidence of success" ... AND using that symbolic value to achieve MORE success.
Garvey was able to lay the foundation of an international black Nation of people knowing black folks will NEVER respond to A BROKE NERGRO.
Garvey knew it.
Biggie knew it.
Fiddy knows it.
Jigga knows it.
Lil Wayne knows it.
So they let you "conscious Negros" TALK about building and uplifting and doing your MLK and Malcolm imitations 40 years after the fact ... In the mean time, they MODEL the strategies for success laid out by cats like Garvey ... and build CREDIBILITY with their audience.
Thus we've got a blog full of haters who roll their eyes at Fiddy Cent, but would jump through hoops to go into business with him.
(Imagine what he could do with CNu's 2,000 Watt Per Negro program).
He could make it happen.
Mak.
Post some more Weezy lyrics.
It cracks me up how, you interpret those lyrics as something bad.
I (and apparently 7 or 8 million others) interpret those lyrics as amazingly insightful.
It is the absolute height of historical and political naivete to talk about "marxism" and "communism".
The "governments" that all rational people rightly fear are authoritarian dictatorships backed by a substantial and otherwise unemployed psychotic mass.
Stalin and Mao were precisely such authoritarian dictators and for them the system of centralized economic control was merely a sideshow to the overarching objective fact of extremely centralized political control.
In any country which can no longer afford to sustain its make-work economic operations, there is a significant risk of incitement and organized deployment of masses of unemployed men.
20% of American males between the ages of 24-54 are longterm unemployed with no prospects on their event horizon.
The U.S. faces very acute risk of political insurrection if it doesn't otherwise channel this mass, and none of it even remotely has anything whatsoever to do with "communism".
(Imagine what he could do with CNu's 2,000 Watt Per Negro program).
Too late.
I was summoned to Illuminati headquarters last wednesday morning and informed of financing and sponsorship on a scale dwarfing anything I'd sought or proposed.
Seriously....,
In all modesty, given what it seeks to accomplish, and given our objective circumstances, it was really kind of an inevitability.
My only regret is that after three years only one very senior, very technical, and very "successful" brother was astute enough to get it and to support it.
The Illuminati "got it" in under 30 minutes and began moving in support of it the very same week it was brought to their attention.
Look on the upper right hand side of this graphic to understand what I mean by inevitability.
"The Illuminati "got it" in under 30 minutes and began moving in support of it the very same week it was brought to their attention." CNu
That's good.
Hustle Hard.
I (and apparently 7 or 8 million others) interpret those lyrics as amazingly insightful.—DV
That proves two points: (1) “The irrational economy of White America, based as it is on irrational consumption, requires a high level of impulsivity and economic stupidity in its population;” (2) You and pubescent white males have a lot in common.
You know better Bro. Makheru. Both were militaristic empire building peoples who controlled lots of other people's resources via conquest and extraction of tribute.-- CNu
That's a particularly narrow view of Kemetic Civilization. What sustained that society for nearly 3,000 years was (1) mastery of the Nile, (2) the development of agriculture, (3) the belief in and practice of Ma'at.
I'm denying neither their imperialism, nor their military prowess.
We have to view the total history of Ancient KMT, including the intermediate periods of decline and chaos, the Hyksos conquest, and the frequent restorations and stabilizing efforts of the Nubians.
Agreed Bro. Makheru.
I had the opportunity to kick it with Baba Dixon for a bit yesterday and he pulled my sleeve on something you may like.
The Science of the Dogon
and a followup “The Sacred Symbols of the Dogons.”
I (and apparently 7 or 8 million others) interpret those lyrics as amazingly insightful.
So, consensus is no longer overrated?
I (and apparently 7 or 8 million others) interpret those lyrics as amazingly insightful.
"So, consensus is no longer overrated?" Big Man
Its better rated than the opinion of old out of step Rap Haters.
Plus, when you can get $9.99 a pop ... that consensus becomes worth $70 to $80 million.
And that aint overrated at all.
Everything else is talk.
And jealousy.
Just quoting you...
Those are your words, not mine.
Asante Sana Bro. Nulan for that info.
Just quoting you...
Those are your words, not mine.
Yes. We can see that.
No Problem Big Man.
Remember though ... 7 or 8 million people does not make a "consensus".
The masses. The majority. Hundreds of millions. The average cat will tell you he hates Lil Wayne ... doesn't get it ... just bitches and ho's ... conspicuous consumption ... I like Black Thought ... yada yada.
Those that really know rap.
Those that can feel it.
Lyrical cats.
Give dude his props.
Remember though ... 7 or 8 million people does not make a "consensus".
The masses. The majority. Hundreds of millions. The average cat will tell you he hates Lil Wayne ... doesn't get it ... just bitches and ho's ... conspicuous consumption ... I like Black Thought ... yada yada.
Those that really know rap.
Those that can feel it.
Lyrical cats.
Give dude his props.
I see. So, moving forward, consensus is only reached if it involves hundreds of millions?
Also, how exactly are you determining that Lil Wayne has more detractors than fans? Who are these average people who "hate" Lil Wayne?
Is this based on your personal experiences? Would not that have more to do with the cats you run with, than the reality on the ground?
Are you arguing that Lil Wayne's popularity is driven by an extremely small subset of the hip hop listening public, and not the masses? Exactly where are you getting that information because my experience has been vastly different.
Finally, on a personal note, where exactly did I say dude couldn't rap? I don't believe I said that, but maybe I'm mistaken.
I believe I disputed your contention that he is on the same level as Hendrix and Marley, or that he's better than T.I. or say Andre 3000.
I'm curious how that turns into "hate"? Since I own several of the young man's albums, and I didn't even bootleg them, I'm extremely curious.
I don't know Big Man.
Wasn't really talking about you or your taste or your cd collection.
Seems like the discussion is spiraling into one of those "but DV didn't you say ..." contest of semantics.
I think I've articulated why I consider the cat the most relevant artist of the moment.
If you don't think he is the most relevant artist of the moment ... please drop a link to whom you would bestow that title.
I'm quite confident that the most relevant artist of this time will eventually rank right along side the most relevant artists of Bob and Jimi's time.
Thus ... rest assured my friend. History is going to remember this lyrical genius quite fondly.
Big Man,
what you clearly fail to recognize is that Weezy Baby is soaking somebody drawls like.no.other....,
umm-kay?
you.just.can't.argue.with.that.brah
rotflmbao....,
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