Wednesday, May 26, 2010

A Plantation Negro's 'Drug Lord' ... A Black Man's Robin Hood

34 comments:

Constructive Feedback said...

44 Now Dead In Defense Of "Robin Hood"
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/05/26/jamaica-ombudsman-says-people-died-battles-police-gunmen-532661947/?test=latestnews

Robin Hood Character leads to 500 arrests in Jamaica
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/05/26/jamaica/index.html?hpt=T2


How many millions in tourism does Jamaica have to lose before the people realize that this fool ain't worth it?

Denmark Vesey said...

How many millions of black men must be incarcerated by a for-profit prison industrial complex before Plantation Negros stand up and fight a predatory hypocritical unjust group of gangsters masquerading as "duh goverment"?

makheru bradley said...

Did the mythical Robin Hood ever disseminate the seeds death and destruction amongst his own people?

Denmark Vesey said...

"Did the mythical Robin Hood ever disseminate the seeds death and destruction amongst his own people?" Makheru Bradley


Did the mythical Robin Hood feed thousands of victims of neocolonialism?

"disseminate the seeds death and destruction"

Are you talking about refined processed genetically modified food and corporate pharmaceuticals?

Because those "seeds of death" kill 1,000 times more black people than do cocaine marijuana and guns COMBINED.

Ya'll cats watch too much TV.

makheru bradley said...

I’m guessing that you had a hard time staying on task in school.

Just a reminder brah, the topic is your comparison of Christopher Coke to the mythical Robin Hood.

Where is this “Robin Hood?” Is he on the front lines fighting for his people, or is he somewhere running scared, fearing for his life? I’ll bet this punk gangster gives himself up to law enforcement, and then just like Frank Lucas, snitches on his comrades. Cause that’s what punk gangsters do.

It did not matter how many turkeys and toys Bumpy Johnson and Frank Lucas gave away on holidays.

Their “charity” could never match the death and destruction they brought upon their own people.

There’s nothing more beneficial to the NWO than a Black drug kingpin who facilitates the death of his people, except perhaps a pathological entertainer who poisons young minds.

We see the ravaging effects of the drug trade and drug addiction everyday in our communities, and you’re saying a drug kingpin is the “Black man’s Robin Hood.” That’s a serious level of pathology brah man.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]How many millions of black men must be incarcerated by a for-profit prison industrial complex before Plantation Negros stand up and fight a predatory hypocritical unjust group of gangsters masquerading as "duh goverment"[/quote]

DV - Fan Of Lil Weezy:

1) I ran the numbers a few years ago.
ONLY 3% of the 2M people incarcerated in the USA are housed in "For-Profit Prisons". This amounts to about 60,000 people.

As much as certain people with certain ideologies like to sanctify "Not-For-Profit" institutions and/or government institutions WHY is it that jails are not covered in this grace?

2) Even when Democrats/Black folks take over - ie: Cook County Jail in Chicagoland the only change is that in addition to the majority of the inmates being Black - the guards and admin staff (warden) are also Black and Democrats.

Are you telling me that they too are "sold out"?

3) Perhaps you have never checked out my video series entitled "What is making Black people cry on the evening news?". I have never seen a prison guard shoot a brother, put the gun in the hand of a street pirate and then WELCOME him home to the institution in about 5 months after the judicial system goes through the motions to send him there.

Perhaps you need to talk to a few more Black VICTIMS of crime in order to round out your perspective.

DMG said...

MOTI,

No battling, nothing sarcastic. Walking up to you with my palms open.

So, for almost a year now, I've known you to be a natural foods advocate (or however you'd like to refer to yourself). You daily tell us how certain medications will do ones body harm. We can agree up to this point, right?

How do you reconcile your support for a person who actually deals drugs that have been shown to do the human body harm? I mean it's been demonstrated everywhere from the lab to the street corner for all to see, that the chemical compounds referred to here as cocaine (or in its free base form crack), heroin, and methamphetamine--are detrimental to the human body.

I'm really curious why this guy receives none of your derision.

Again, not looking to battle, argue, call names, or whatever. I'm wondering how this is somehow "OK" in your mind.

Denmark Vesey said...

Ah come on Mak.

This is chess not checkers.

That simple minded good guy v bad guy rhetoric you are talking is about as deep as a saucer.
"
Where is this “Robin Hood?” Is he on the front lines fighting for his people,"

Where is the Plantation Negro Prime Minister Bruce Golding?

Is he on the front lines with his little Negro NWO "Security Forces"?

Those idiots are no different than black slave catchers armed with guns doing the work of white slave merchants.

Who do you think shot and killed 44 Jamaicans in Tivoli Gardens?

Christopher Coke?

No.

It's stupid fucking Plantation Negro flunkies doing the bidding of God knows whom in the US State Department who claim to have evidence acquired via ILLEGAL wiretaps.

It's funny how you cats still channeling Fred Hampton and Malcolm X are so eager to characterize a brother as a "drug dealer dispensing poison" to his own people because the FBI tells you so.

And again ... let me put you on task ... or better yet expand your outdated simple minded paradigm:

- refined processed genetically modified food and corporate pharmaceuticals kill 1,000 times more black people than do cocaine marijuana and guns COMBINED.

If you are really concerned about protecting your people from 'disseminated seeds of destruction' ... you'd help me spread the word about the dangers of engineered obesity as as slow-kill weapon instead of playing cheerleader for the Global Cops.

Denmark Vesey said...

"How do you reconcile your support for a person who actually deals drugs that have been shown to do the human body harm?" Plantation MD

For the same reason I would support you Doc, if Merck or Pfizer or Baxter charged you with 'dealing medications that do ones body harm'.

You do.

But so do they.

DMG said...

Come on now. You know what I mean. Give me a real answer. If you are going to play games, just say you aren't interested and I'll leave it at that.

Denmark Vesey said...

D ...

Dude.

Just because something is outside of your little box ... doesn't mean ... it's not a real answer.

That's as funny as Big Man talking about "DV changes definitions" when DV is simply expanding his limited understanding.

Now. If you can't handle my answer, that's cool.

But don't believe for a minute, I'm not dead serious.

Fuck "a battle".

I'm bored to death with that shit.

I'm serious man.

I think I answered your question QUITE well:

"How do you reconcile your support for a person who actually deals drugs that have been shown to do the human body harm?" Plantation MD

For the same reason I would support you Doc, if Merck or Pfizer or Baxter charged you with 'dealing medications that do ones body harm'.

You do.

But so do they.

DMG said...

So, you aren't going to answer. You'll daily drone on and on about pork chops, but if I mention crack, you get all defensive.

I'll leave it at that.

And no, you aren't serious. You never are.

Denmark Vesey said...

Stop playing dumb Doc.

It's not a good look.

If you are embarrassed, skip the thread:

"The number of people having in-hospital, adverse drug reactions (ADR) to Prescribed Medicine is 2.2 million"

Lazarou J, Pomeranz B, Corey P. Incidence of adverse drug reactions in hospitalized patients. Journal of the American Medical Association 279:1200-1205.

That's 2,200,000 people a year P.MD

All the "drug lords" in the world times 10 don't harm as many people as you "legal" drug pushers.

DMG said...

I'm only embarrassed for you. There is no villain you wouldn't champion. There is no champion you wouldn't vilify.

It's that simple.

By the way, an adverse reaction could be as simple as being nauseous, or find that you are allergic to the medication.

Adverse reaction to shooting heroin in an abandoned building?

Adverse reaction to passing out and getting gang raped after smoking meth?

Adverse reaction to selling your flesh and blood to a pimp so you can get some crack?

This is why I really have never taken you seriously. You like shock value. Which is fine and interesting done on occasion, but in every single post?

You just can't ever discuss, or actually debate anything straight. Whatever, have fun with the clowns.

HotmfWax said...

DV,

When in doubt, always ask the Jamacian People. According to an article in Jamaicaviews.com, there could be social unrest if Coke was to be extradited. He has the legitimacy that the government can only envy among the urban poor. A Caribbean scholar with knowledge of the workings of inner-city communities across the region put it this way:

“For the people, legitimacy in the Government stops at Carib 5 cinema (in Cross Roads). From that point down, he (Dudus) is more legitimate than the Government. He has a monopoly of force and consensual power because he has legitimacy that the Government of Jamaica cannot even dream to have where the urban poor is concerned.”

“What does a government do when they have created a government within a government? What do they now do when they have to hand up this government to another government?” he asked. “He (Dudus) can get kids to be off the street at 8:30 pm. The Government does not even have the power to scratch anybody’s hair much more to do something like that. People feel safer in Tivoli Gardens than anywhere else. It is the safest garrison. This is touchy. In a country that barely understands order, you have found somebody to provide order in the midst of chaos because downtown is chaos. What do you do with him?”

This brother ain't just delivering Turkeys. You are right...your plantationiers are definitely watching too much TV.

Denmark Vesey said...

"This is why I really have never taken you seriously." P.MD

LOL.

Got a funny way of showing it.

You are the first kid in class everyday.

Front and center.

Soaking up knowledge.

(You don't think your little play fights disguise the fact this is the most intellectually stimulating and edifying thing in your life do you?)

Good.

Doc.

For the United States government ... to prosecute a Jamaican ... for distributing drugs ... is hypocrisy of biblical proportion.

For supposedly educated black people to overlook the issues of sovereignty and due process is Plantation Negro pathetic.

HotmfWax said...

This is not Jamaica first Rodeo:

Ever heard of Jim Brown?

click here

I aint talking football either.

The original Dudas(OG)

burned in US jail without trial

History reating itself. mmmm.......

Denmark Vesey said...

"because he has legitimacy that the Government of Jamaica cannot even dream to have where the urban poor is concerned.”


Get 'em Wax.

Thank you. Damn. These shallow Negros boring me to tears.

These cats are too old to traffic in overly simplistic 'Good Guy v Bad Guy' paradigms.

This extradition of Christopher Coke from Jamaica has about as much moral authority as the invasion and kidnapping of Manuel Noriega in Panama.

Was Noriega a "drug dealer"?

Sure.

So was his employer - George H. W. Bush.

HotmfWax said...

"Was Noriega a "drug dealer"?

Sure.

So was his employer - George H. W. Bush."-Dv

Hush Bra. You know the selective memory drill:). That did not happen.

Nuggas have already forgoten Iran-Contra affair.

Remember -in order to make the Plantation Negro happy ,repeat the Mantra after me:

They are no conspiracies.
They are no conspiracies.
They are no conspiracies.

Anonymous said...

bumbaclot dmg!!! di americans need fi stay outta wi business dem too nuff!!!!! all di one golding him cah handle shit suh mi nuh know why him become president fa!!!!!! and obama need fi come out of jamaica and deal wid there business cause dem have more problems dan we do

HotmfWax said...

BTW, all politics are local. This is the way it works in JA.

Garrison communities – Tivoli, Trench Town, Jungle, Fletcher's Land and others – are self-governing, politically protected enclaves striated according to party affiliation, dependent on and controlled by "dons" and their gangs, who are the liaison between the community and political parties. Dons receive the patronage and political protection of party leaders, which insulates them from law enforcement. In exchange, they finance political campaigns, deliver votes, wage wars to protect territories and maintain peace overall.

Despite their reputation for criminality and corruption, many dons benefit enormously from government contracts for construction, transportation and infrastructure, and, in turn, utilize these legal businesses to launder money. They fill a gap that successive governments seem unable and unwilling to tackle.

In point, Coke has been instrumental in resurrecting, restructuring and streamlining commerce and ensuring the safety and protection of both vendors and buyers in downtown Kingston. Now, business transactions and social interactions (such as the popular dancehall event, Passa Passa) are mutually beneficial, and money flows in to poverty-stricken communities that are unlikely to benefit from tourist dollars or government subsidies.

He's also managed to stem much of the violence and terror for which these areas are historically renowned.

Politicians have ceded their power to gangsters and appear unable or unwilling to mitigate the chaos they helped create since they began arming the gangs of inner city Kingston and beyond. As the deadlock tightens, Jamaicans are fearful of the return to and breakout of violence and what will flourish in the vacuum created by his extradition.

Jamaicans are a famously proud people who balk at the notion of bowing to anything and anyone.

Finally, sleep on this- Jim Brown is Coke's Dad.

-me say war!

CNu said...

So.., what exactly got Dudas in the State Dept's crosshairs at this particular time?

Why the sudden, loud and violent interference?

SoCal said...

This extradition of Christopher Coke from Jamaica has about as much moral authority as the invasion and kidnapping of Manuel Noriega in Panama.

Was Noriega a "drug dealer"?

Sure.

So was his employer - George H. W. Bush.

Ha! someone please explain this to dmg

Big Man said...

DV

I'm surprised you didn't use the death of that little girl in Detroit to talk about the state of the police in this country.

DMG said...

SoCal,

So now you are comparing Dudas to Noriega? So, what connection does Dudas have with the US government?

Why can't you all just acknowledge that Dudas deals substances without regard to their impact on human life, street violence and the supply chain?

You are so caught up on the fact that he's a black man, that you forgot that he's a criminal.

You arguments are nothing more than "but they are doing it too". Unfortunately, you've used your disdain for prescription medication as your bogeyman.

The argument is weak. The man has convinced these people that they should risk their lives for someone who has essentially dropped trinkets in their laps. If there ever was an enslaved mentality, this is an example.

SoCal said...

So now you are comparing Dudas to Noriega?
why not?

Big Man said...

DMG said


The argument is weak. The man has convinced these people that they should risk their lives for someone who has essentially dropped trinkets in their laps. If there ever was an enslaved mentality, this is an example.

Considering the exchange rate and the cost of living in Jamaica, you think the cats working this Don are paid more or less than your average cats who enlists in the military?

Define "trinkets"?

How much money would move these folks from dying for "trinkets" to paid employees fighting for their employer?

Do you even know for sure exactly how much money dude spends on employing people, or are you assuming that he hands out turkey's and tennis shoes like Nino Brown?

How do you know the people who died weren't hired guns for this Don who died because they felt it was in their best interest that he stay free and earning money?

You are assuming this situation follows the Hollywood paradigm, but do you actually know that?

What if it doesn't, what if Jamaica, as Wax claims, is basically operating as a neo-feudal country? Does that change your opinion of the folks fighting the police?

makheru bradley said...

It's funny how you cats still channeling Fred Hampton and Malcolm X are so eager to characterize a brother as a "drug dealer dispensing poison" to his own people because the FBI tells you so.-- DV

Dood, you should know that Makheru synthesizes information from various sources before taking a position on anything. Ever since you launched this ludicrous analogy between myth (Robin Hood) and reality (Dudus Coke), I’ve been reading amongst other sources, online excerpts of “Born Fi’ Dead.” I find it interesting that these Jamaican posses’s were developed as a result of turf battles between Jamaica’s major neo-colonial political parties.

I asked a simple question DV, which you have refused to answer (as usual): “Did the mythical Robin Hood ever disseminate the seeds death and destruction amongst his own people?” My focus from the beginning has been on your analogy? You’re running all around Robin Hood’s barn to dodge your own analogy.

That simple minded good guy v bad guy rhetoric you are talking is about as deep as a saucer.—DV

That’s most definitely not my rhetoric, but exactly who are the good guys and bad guys in this scenario?

This extradition of Christopher Coke from Jamaica has about as much moral authority as the invasion and kidnapping of Manuel Noriega in Panama.—DV

DV, you should know that my position is that the United States of America, constructed on a foundation of crimes against humanity, genocide, and theft, has no moral authority, anywhere in the world, period.

Crimogenic America periodically focuses on the like of Noriega, Blanco, Escobar, Loera, Cardenas, Coke, etc., to maintain the façade of a drug war which is being “fought” because too many of its citizens are addicted to drugs. This Jamaican Posse problem could primarily be alleviated by simply legalizing marijuana. Quite frankly, I’m not hung up on this extradition, beyond the role of Coke and the Shower Posse—famous for showing its enemies and others with bullets—in the destruction of Afrikan people.

You and your Georgia clone are free to chase conspiracies until you turn green. My focus is on reality. OBTW Wax, check your history. Lester “Jim Brown” Coke was mysteriously incinerated in a Jamaican jail cell (not US) while awaiting extradition to the US.

[Let us examine the story of one such gang leader, Lester "Jim Brown" Coke. Onetime co-leader of the Shower posse, he was allegedly responsible for sixty-eight
homicides and the shooting of thirteen police officers in Jamaica during the first six
months of 1990. Coke had been tried fourteen times for murder and had always been acquitted because the witnesses either disappeared or were killed. In July 1990 he and about sixty of his posse were involved in a shootout with police. Armed with two nine millimeter pistols and an Uzi machine gun, "Jim Brown" survived, thanks to a bulletproof
vest he was wearing.


While being held for extradition to the United States, where he was wanted on charges of murder, attempted murder, and conspiracy to commit murder, his son and
aspiring don Anthony Mark Coke, known locally as "Jah Tee," was gunned down by a rival posse. Violence exploded between the groups. Meanwhile, "Jim Brown" died
mysteriously in a jailhouse fire. Coke has three living sons. One is in jail in Jamaica on charges of murder and narcotics trafficking; another, Dudus Coke, has replaced his father as chief of the Tivoli Shower posse; and the third, at the tender age of thirteen, is
operating his own gang and claims allegiance to no one.]

Denmark Vesey said...

"“Did the mythical Robin Hood ever disseminate the seeds death and destruction amongst his own people?” Makheru Bradley

I

find

that

question

exceedingly

stupid.

Robin Hood robbed the rich ...

and gave to the poor.

Participating in the MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR AMERICAN DRUG TRADE = ROBBING THE RICH.

Using that money to keep people in Tivoli Gardens alive when a failed NeoColonial Jamaican government CANNOT or WILL NOT do it ... IS GIVING TO THE POOR.

Denmark Vesey said...

"This Jamaican Posse problem could primarily be alleviated by simply legalizing marijuana." MB

Who says it's a problem?

Problem for whom?

"Quite frankly, I’m not hung up on this extradition, beyond the role of Coke and the Shower Posse—famous for showing its enemies and others with bullets—in the destruction of Afrikan people." MB

Please.


Pleaaaaaase.

OK. So you read a newspaper article that gives you a cheap explanation for the term "Shower Posse".

You know nothing about them.

You sound like those white midwestern idiots pontificating about "Al Qaeda" by parroting the MSM's mantra that they "hate us because of our freedoms".

"in the destruction of Afrikan people." MB

Pleeeeeeze

What African people?

Are crackheads in Miami Afri"k"an people?

Are coke dealers in New Jersey Afri"k"an people?

If Christopher Coke did not exist would these Afri"k"an people be any better off?

GTFOH with that fantasy shit.

The reality is any Negro operating a Popeyes or a Church's or a MacDonald's franchise will destroy more Afri"k"an people in one week than the Shower Posse could in its life time.

Denmark Vesey said...

In July 1990 he and about sixty of his posse were involved in a shootout with police. Armed with two nine millimeter pistols and an Uzi machine gun, "Jim Brown" survived, thanks to a bulletproof
vest he was wearing."


Good for him.

We need more brothers armed with 9mm, prepared to use them and unafraid of the police.

Jim Brown sounds like Jamaica's version of the Black Panthers.

Denmark Vesey said...

"How do you know the people who died weren't hired guns for this Don who died because they felt it was in their best interest that he stay free and earning money?

You are assuming this situation follows the Hollywood paradigm, but do you actually know that?" Big Man

Get 'em Big Man

Holllllllywood all day.

Spoon fed stereotype.

Labeling a man a "Drug Lord" is as effective as labeling a Muslim a "Terrorist".

Had the Israelis and the Zionist media labeled Yassir Arafat a "Terrorist" instead of the 'President of the Palestinian Liberation Organization" they could have murdered him or imprisoned him in 76 without thinking twice.

makheru bradley said...

I find that question exceedingly stupid.—DV

Well now, the question was generated by a ludicrous analogy, but you must also find it exceedingly unanswerable.

Robin Hood robbed the rich ... and gave to the poor.—DV

Nice try, but that does answer the dissemination of death and destruction.

Participating in the MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR AMERICAN DRUG TRADE = ROBBING THE RICH.—DV

Incredibly naïve! Who benefits from a Prison-Industrial Complex filled with young Black males?

Using that money to keep people in Tivoli Gardens alive when a failed NeoColonial Jamaican government CANNOT or WILL NOT do it ... IS GIVING TO THE POOR.—DV

ROTFLMBAO!!!!!!!!!

If that’s true, then we should praise the “charity” of slave-owners who kept their slaves alive long enough to reap maximum benefits from their labor.

Who says it's a problem? Problem for whom?—DV

It was most definitely a problem for the 1,500 people who are dead as result of drug/gang related violence. It’s difficult to measure the costs of the long-term effects of drug abuse, but we know that the medical ramifications are enormous.

If Christopher Coke did not exist would these Afri"k"an people be any better off?—DV

There are no illusions here. Coke will be replaced, just like Freeway Ricky Ross and Rayful Edmonds were replaced. Drug dealers satisfy a need in millions of people. The difficult task is replacing that need.

The reality is any Negro operating a Popeyes or a Church's or a MacDonald's franchise will destroy more Afri"k"an people in one week than the Shower Posse could in its life time. – DV

If I were into comparative ethics, I could use a similar analogy and say that the brothers and sisters who own fast-food franchises are “keeping people alive” by providing jobs, etc. You know, like Dudus Coke, help some people; kill others.

You’re into “Robin Hooding” narco-criminals, while condemning fast-food owners. Operating with such asinine hypocrisy, I see why cognitive dissonance is so prevalent.

We need more brothers armed with 9mm, prepared to use them and unafraid of the police.—DV

They are using them—on each other.

Jim Brown sounds like Jamaica's version of the Black Panthers.-DV

Obviously, you have no clue as to what the Black Panther Party was.

Anonymous said...

My father, age 56, jamaican born, says Christopher Is revered and well supported by the people. No one, not even the elderly support his extradition. He supports schools, actually funding the complete educational operation is certain parts of Kingston. My dad also pointed out the irony of the man being extradited and charged in a country he has never before stepped foot in. Sounds to me that any crime he committed occurred in Jamaica.

RJEsq