Saturday, March 17, 2012

Plantation Food Will Kill More Black People This Year Than The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade - Why Are Plantation Negros Still Talking About Racism?

Lashana Johnson of Richmond, on the night before she undergoes gastric bypass surgery for "weight control". This surgery [Plantation MD Quackery] is the last resort for those with extreme health issues due to weight or extreme obesity. Because insurance is picking up many of the bills, this surgery is becoming more and more popular.
Below, Lashana wears an oxygen mask at night for sleep apnea, a disorder, due to her weight, which could cause her to stop breathing while sleeping. Chosen said...
"Imagine if all the time, money energy and talent invested in the National Association for the "Advancement" of COLORED People ... had been invested in a National Association For The Prevention of Obese Black People." - DV

Who, of 19th-20th cent. Black leaders and thinkers, could have predicted the rise of multinational corporations, and the rise and cooperation of the 'Big' food and medical industries? Esp. at a time when black folks were just trying to survive, and live with some decency and dignity? Many folks haven't begun to come to grips with the fact that they and their parents ran back to the plantation after 1954.

It seems that you may be operating with a definition of racism that doesn't account for its insidious presence and operation in the structures and institutions of U.S. society - which is what makes it as American as apple pie, not merely the fact that many Americans hold dear to racist attitudes (and obviously their apple pies!).

DV, you're certainly on point in the assertion that 'claiming racism' as a sole motivating factor is too simple a task. But it can be understood as a deeply embedded organizing principle.

Clearly from the map you put in the post above, poverty and geography have significant contributions towards peoples chances of becoming obese. Still, I think a glance to history will show us why southern states tend to be populated with the most obese folks, who are most likely the poorest folks, who are more likely to be black folks.

...OR why southern states tend to be more heavily populated with black folks, who are overwhelmingly likely to be poor folks, who are more likely to become obese ...depending on how you look at it.

The point is that:
"Plantation Negros defending themselves from Racism when they are being attacked by something all together different" ... is something of a false dichotomy.

happy healthy new year ya'll!

36 comments:

Michael Fisher said...

"DV"...

"Why are Plantation Negros (sic) still talking about Racism?"

So, "DV". Since African-Americans, particularly African-American women are waaaay ahead on the obesity thing than anyone else, what do you ascribe that to?

Given that pretty much everyone has access to the same information: Does this mean that "black" folks are inherently too stupid to eat right and exercise?

If "black" folks are nit inherently too stupid to eat right and to exercise, how did and do these cultural notions that lead to black obesity develop?

Denmark Vesey said...

Why?

Why are African women "waaay ahead on the obesity thing"?

Well "MF," for the same reason they are "waaay ahead on the abortion thing".

They've been targeted by Malthusian Luciferian Eugencists who want to reduce the population of earth.

Just as the first abortion clinic of Planned Parenthood was placed in Harlem ...

Deadly fast food restaurants selling fried greasy Genetically Modified dead animals raised on steroids dominate the urban landscape.

NEA said...

This is some serious and disturbing stuff!! Thanks for posting.

People need to wake up and start taking responsibility for their own health. No excuses.

There are no shortcuts and no there are no secrets.

Take care of what God blessed you with.

Michael Fisher said...

"DV"...

"
They've been targeted by Malthusian Luciferian Eugencists who want to reduce the population of earth..."


Ok. And what, "DV", would you say is the most appropriate functional term for the disproportionate targeting by these "Luciferian Eugenicists" of black folks in general and black women in particular?

Denmark Vesey said...

"Ok. And what, "DV", would you say is the most appropriate functional term for the disproportionate targeting by these "Luciferian Eugenicists" of black folks in general and black women in particular?" "MF"

Convenience MF.

Plantation Crackas are dropping like flies too MF.

Some sub-groups of Crackas are dropping just as fast as the Lashana Johnsons.

So ... MF ... as much as you would like it to be ... this is not some simple white v black thing.

Ya'll cats need to let the 1970's go.

That was 40 years ago MF.

Michael Fisher said...

"DV"...

"Convenience MF."

Poor "white" people have always been exploited and victimized, "DV". 40 years ago and 500 years ago. That's a given. I asked you what one calls the DISPROPORTIONATE targeting of "black" people? If it is "convenient" to disproportionately target "black" folks, what is the functional term of this convenient disproportionate targeting of "black" folks, "DV"?

Denmark Vesey said...

"what is the functional term of this convenient disproportionate targeting of "black" folks, "DV"?" MF


Well ... MF, You Plantation Negros, inclined to chase the abstraction of "racism" like dogs inclined to chase their tails, make black people an easier and more immediate target for Malthusian genocidal maniacs.

You type of Negros are low-hanging fruit.

People trying to fix "Racism" are trying to fix something that can't be fixed.


Imagine if all the time, money energy and talent invested in the National Association for the "Advancement" of COLORED People ... had been invested in a National Association For The Prevention of Obese Black People.

Millions of beautiful valuable people would still be alive, healthy and contributing to our community today.

Big Don said...

CDC Data here...
http://origin.cdc.gov/obesity/data/trends.html#Race

Michael Fisher said...

"DV"...

"Well ... MF, You Plantation Negros, inclined to chase the abstraction of "racism"..."

That's not an answer to my question. That's a whole other topic. The question was:

"what is the functional term of this convenient disproportionate targeting of "black" folks?"

Can you give a logical answer to that question?

Denmark Vesey said...

"what is the functional term of this convenient disproportionate targeting of "black" folks?"

I told you "MF" ... the term for this (slightly) disproportionate targeting is: Low Hanging Fruit.

Plantation Negros defending themselves from Racism when they are being attacked by something all together different ... makes them easy targets.

What term do you use for this phenomenon?

chosen said...

"Imagine if all the time, money energy and talent invested in the National Association for the "Advancement" of COLORED People ... had been invested in a National Association For The Prevention of Obese Black People." - DV

Who, of 19th-20th cent. Black leaders and thinkers, could have predicted the rise of multinational corporations, and the rise and cooperation of the 'Big' food and medical industries? Esp. at a time when black folks were just trying to survive, and live with some decency and dignity? Many folks haven't begun to come to grips with the fact that they and their parents ran back to the plantation after 1954.

It seems that you may be operating with a definition of racism that doesn't account for its insidious presence and operation in the structures and institutions of U.S. society - which is what makes it as American as apple pie, not merely the fact that many Americans hold dear to racist attitudes (and obviously their apple pies!).

DV, you're certainly on point in the assertion that 'claiming racism' as a sole motivating factor is too simple a task. But it can be understood as a deeply embedded organizing principle.

Clearly from the map you put in the post above, poverty and geography have significant contributions towards peoples chances of becoming obese.

Still, I think a glance to history will show us why southern states tend to be populated with the most obese folks, who are most likely the poorest folks, who are more likely to be black folks.

...OR why southern states tend to be more heavily populated with black folks, who are overwhelmingly likely to be poor folks, who are more likely to become obese ...depending on how you look at it.

The point is that:
"Plantation Negros defending themselves from Racism when they are being attacked by something all together different" ... is something of a false dichotomy.

happy healthy new year ya'll!

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Perhaps the ammonia-injected beef has to do with poor health.

Anonymous said...

Obesity is a great subject to stand against DV. Keep up the good work.

Bro. Fisher, as long as he incorrectly defines "racism" and WS you are dealing with a gap in the reasoning process, that cannot be overcome. He long ago decided never to address the issue using the operative definitions you present. As long as he confronts the issue using only his narrow-minded dichotomy he will always find solace in his (mis)understanding.

LMAO @ low hanging fruit. He admits it's by design, but then postulates that the intelligent design is rather indiscriminate in it's application.

"Plantation Negros defending themselves from Racism when they are being attacked by something all together different"

Try this on for size. The same system that operated to dominate and dehumanize those people who were designated as non-white, has mutated, and while maintaining its original purpose, has changed its tactics. And apparently still has some of us guessing and half stepping in its wake..

Denmark Vesey said...

"He long ago decided never to address the issue using the operative definitions you present. As long as he confronts the issue using only his narrow-minded dichotomy he will always find solace in his (mis)understanding." EM

ummm ...

why aren't the 'Racism Is Everything' cats using only their "narrow-minded dichotomy"?

lol.

Nah Ex Men.

(Peep DV realign a Paradigm)

You've been telling yourselves racism is the driving force behind everything for so long, you confuse racism with reality.

Reality without racism is something you cannot even conceive.

(I dare one of you to even try to describe what the world would look like without racism. Take 200 sentences or 2 sentences. You can't do it.)

The ubiquitous inescapable 'Racism' meme is a Hegelian Head Fake.

Black v White
Right v Left.
Blue v Red
Democrat v Republican
Capitalism v Communism
Men v Women
Christian v Islam
Secular v Atheist
Straight v Homo

All manufactured false dichotomies.

But DVeeeeeeeeee!

'How do you explain the fact that 40% of of African Americans are Obese when only 28% of white Americans are Obese?! ... it MUST be caused by racism .... it MUST! ... if we agree it's not simply a product of racism that means there is something wrong with black people! We need the Racism crutch!"

See. I employ the scientific method. The facts are the facts. With obese and diabetic people dropping dead like flies ... THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG with a cat 50 pounds overweight sitting in the drive-through of Wendy's right now.

Something is as wrong with him as is wrong with a muhfuggah standing in line at a crackhouse right now.

Telling chronically obese people they are victims of Racism does them no good.

Tell them they are victims of their own ignorance. Perhaps they will get mad and save their own lives and the lives of their children before they fill them too with high fructose corn syrup.

Instead of searching for simple RACISM in everything ... ya'll cats should worry more about who is being poisoned & who is doing the poisoning.

NEA said...

"why aren't the 'Racism Is Everything' cats using only their "narrow-minded dichotomy"?" DV

Truth.

And I understood "low hanging fruit" to mean the easily swayed folks (it could be anybody... black, white, poor, rich, whateva..).

While I am by no means disputing the realism of institutionalized racism and its psychological effects, I honestly fail to see how it is a cause of weight gain and obesity.

Simply, it's behavior and personal choices. And that is true of Americans overall.

The fact that eating everything and anything and refusing to engage in physical activity has nothing to do with it? Unhealthy habits don't discriminate. It is no secret what someone needs to do to maintain a healthy weight.

BTW, I hate to mention this and it's unfortunate but could this weight issue be partly responsible for so many black women being single?

CNu said...

While I am by no means disputing the realism of institutionalized racism and its psychological effects, I honestly fail to see how it is a cause of weight gain and obesity.

Peep these data that my man Ed Dunn hipped me to...,

Simply, it's behavior and personal choices. And that is true of Americans overall.

For some, yes - but not for most.

NEA said...

Thanks for the link CNu. Certainly not my reality.

Michael Fisher said...

"DV"

"See. I employ the scientific method. The facts are the facts."

Is that so?

Well. You postulated as a fact that "'blacks' have been targeted by Malthusian Luciferian Eugencists"

In order to target something or somebody one has to define and identify the target.

Clearly then, since 'black" in this context is a so-called "racial" characteristic, the people (who you also refer to as low-hanging fruit) have been targeted based on their definition by the targeteers as members of the "black race". That makes that targeting action one of "racism".

Now, the fact that one is a victim of racism doesn't mean one can not do anything against the victimization. In this case, recognizing this targeting on the basis of race can and should led to a counter measure such as eating correctly, in measure, and, of course, exercising.

Denmark Vesey said...

Well. You postulated as a fact that "'blacks' have been targeted by Malthusian Luciferian Eugencists" MF

Yup.

And whites have also been targeted.

"In order to target something or somebody one has to define and identify the target." MF

Not really.

Unmanned drones are used to target and kill everyday.

They bomb grid coordinates.

Whomever is there, dies. Thus, one Arab Muslim "militant" and 16 children get burned to death.

Was the target ever defined as "children"?

Probably not.

Did children die?

Yes.

Are the targets of Malthusian slow-kill weapons defined as "blacks".

Probably not.

Do blacks die?

Like flies.

"Clearly then, since 'black" in this context is a so-called "racial" characteristic," MF

No. Not at all.

Not a racial characteristic ... but the characteristic of "easy targets".

(Anybody in the drive-through of Popeye's is an easy target.)

"Now, the fact that one is a victim of racism doesn't mean one can not do anything against the victimization." MF

Anyone in the drive through of Popeye's, already suffering from diabetes, and ordering a 16 OZ Pepsi ... is not a victim of racism. They are a victim of their own ignorance and low self-esteem.

"In this case, recognizing this targeting on the basis of race" MF

Will cripple the target and doom them to defending themselves from the least dangerous threat.

Michael Fisher said...

"DV"...

"Yup.

And whites have also been targeted."


You're being evasive. We already agreed that " whites have also been targeted". The question was why "blacks" have been disproportionately targeted. Which DISPROPORTIONATE targeting being something that you already acknowledged.


"They are a victim of their own ignorance and low self-esteem."

If that be so, why are "blacks" disproportionately ignorant and possess low self-esteem?

Are they just stupid in comparison with "whites"?

Denmark Vesey said...

"You're being evasive. We already agreed that " whites have also been targeted". The question was why "blacks" have been disproportionately targeted. Which DISPROPORTIONATE targeting being something that you already acknowledged." MF

Not evasive at all MF.

I'm being instructive.

If a white man goes on a shooting rampage and kills 7 blacks and 5 whites ... was he a racist?

Did he target blacks? Yes.

Did he target whites? Yes.

Did he kill more blacks? Yes.

Why?

They were obese. They didn't run as fast. Tended not to take cover.

They proved to be easier targets. Thus he fired more shots at them.

Thus they died at a faster rate.

Would proving they were the victims of "racism" protect blacks from future targeting?

No.

You need to really think about that man.

Let that sink in.

Michael Fisher said...

"DV"...

"They were obese. They didn't run as fast. Tended not to take cover."

Fair enough.

Question still remains though...

(1) Why were they obese?

Because they are too stupid to know better?

(2) Why couldn't they run fast enough?

Because they were too obese because they were to stupid to know better?

(3) Why didn't they take cover?

Because they were to stupid to take cover?

Baseline...

Are, on the average, "blacks" dumber than "whites"?

Denmark Vesey said...

Are, on the average, "blacks" dumber than "whites"? MF

No.

Then why are they more susceptible to slow kill weapons like Plantation Food?

Because they have been conditioned to see "racism" as the greatest threat and are less prepared to defend themselves from real threats like -

Toxic vaccines.
Genetically Modified Food.
Global Government.
Fluoridated water.
Plantation Medicine.

Michael Fisher said...

"DV"...

"Because they have been conditioned to see "racism" as the greatest threat and are less prepared to defend themselves from real threats like -..."

Ok. I see where you are going with this.

Before we continue. What is "racism", "DV"?

Thordaddy said...

What is racism???

Itza malignant form... Of supremacy
Makes assertions, collectively
While being coy individually...
But in reality,
In a radically autonomized society,
RACISM... IS THE MECHANISM THAT SETS BLACK FREE...
Itz the method that makes White freeze!!!
Get down on they knees
Say please, nigel, please???
I didn't do all them bad things!!!
I'm just a pathetic seed...
Barely grown witha noxious creed!!!
I AM GUILTY... You are freed...
Thatz racism for ya...
First deny supremacy then take supremacy you need,
U done the deed,
"Racism" is for all to see!!!
Axe one black cat...

Whetha "racism" snatched his G???
Whetha "racism" stole his free??? 
Whetha "racism" killed his dream???

9 out 10 claims of "racism..."
Just uh big pile of scheme!!!
In this radically autonomous n-viral-meant
"Racism" like Mr. Clean...
No... it really Mr. Mean...
"Racism" the most diabolical meme
Unfalsifiable...
Not found in the genes...
But cats wield it lika sword 
Do so lika machine!!!
Mechanically conscious
Theez cats avoidin' category errors
So they stay morally unconscious...
Theez cats cryin' "racism"
Fo' the simple fact

They
Just
Want 
From
U.S...




 

CNu said...

lol..,

yet another moment of priceless, unintended self-disclosure..,

DeVil's favorite peasant has neither pot to piss in, or, window to throw it from,

yet,

exhibits the fully unselfconscious audacity to fix his lips around the lie.he.was.told.and.the.lie.he.tells.himself. that there's some "U.S." connecting him to his feudal overlords.

This is the essence of a stupid, ignorant, and dangerous racist tool in the hands of manipulative others who use and discard such tools as they have for centuries.

Thordaddy said...

Racist tool???
Nah, uzza fatneck fool!!!
Keel ya own KInD
If the ball n chain say it cool...
Memes, u just uh mule...
Twenty years out MIT
And ya still n school...

Where's yur thesis
That 'splain the duel???

What's the reason
U so cruel???

This the season U get pulled
Lulled to sleep
Just anotha' black sheep
All up wolve's clothin'...
If I smacked n the belly
Ya head b rollin'...
Used to have soul
'Til it got stolen...
So scared uh dat white boy
Wiff brains n muscles o so swollen...
Uze cockier than uh cockroach
I put the stroll n the strollin'
Got the lurkers cracklin'
Stressin' they colon...

IF I UH RACIST WHITE BOY lil' PUPPET???

THEN U A DIABOLICALLY-GNOSTIC JIM HENSON MUPPET!!!

Call ya fuzzles, furry fatback fella
Neeedin' tuh cut his consumption
So desperate is he
HE'LL PAY MORE FOR MUCH LESS PRODUCTION...

This reduction
Just part uh fuzzles lil' -ism
This dood get up, plant
The seed uh duh schism...
Maximizing his radical autonomy
Tuh put u n prison
But this white boy gotta vision
I envision
Uh low-paid social worker
Tryin' tuh b Internet legend...

Go fuzzles go...

CNu said...

{{{yawn}}}

did you say something peasant?

Michael Fisher said...

Well, as usual "DV" can't answer a simple question, namely "what is racism". If you accuse folks who "condition" black people to think about racism to the exclusion of all other things, you should be able to say what this "racism" is they advocate. Instead you've got your teacher and mentor Farts rhyming (badly) on your behalf?

Come on "DV". What is "racism"?

Thordaddy said...

Fisher,

"Racism" is the main mechanism of action in the black man's paradigm. It is the tool he utilizes most in order to maximize his autonomy.

Disagree with some substance if you can?

CNu said...

Herr Fisher, do you find it interesting how extraordinarily and disproportionately preoccupied this peasant is with expiation of his own sins, the sins of his fathers, and the sins of his overlords?

Equally interesting, he pretends to want to be able to insist and to demand to be forgiven without even paying lip service to, (much less lifting a finger to) transforming his own psychological and social reality.

The infantile persistence and unselfconscious audacity of this peasant mentality is really something to behold.

Michael Fisher said...
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Michael Fisher said...

Herr Nulan. Zer is nossing at all zat I find interesting about ze Furz. Also, Herr Nulan, mai I point out zat u are insulting all ze peasants bi referring to ze Furz and ze peasants in ze same time.

Thordaddy said...

Two ole brokedown black battle cats back together after uh lil' seperation.  This dynamic doodoo fightin' uh white boy who got real love for his nation.  Has these two nigels dancin' like exclamations.  Expectations twist they noggins in different directions.  Ready tuh jump ship, the next day startin' uh revolution.  But I the revolutionary...  Ain't uh single white cat ya know mo' scary.  You fear me...  You know I lean, mean and addicted to dopamine.  I'm like uh machine, work you over so hard make ya kid scream...  "daddy that true???  mommy could kill me???" Doods know now I'm diabolical and this b psychological warfare.  Tell me I owe ya sumptin' like two lil' queers.  Even worse, say my kids owe ya sumptin' b'fo they even see uh year.  This uh blood libel and liable tuh get ya bloody.  Dummies done forgot all 'bout civil rights and how ya back uh pit bull in the corner and expect uh vicious bite!!!     

Thordaddy said...

fuzzles,

From your POV, what is sin in a radically liberal society other than what a nigel doesn't like?

Are you and multi-mike free or does "racism" suppress you?

If you are a supremacist then what argument do you have against someone more supreme supressing you?

Is white supremacy real or not?

If white supremacy is not real then how does it have influence in a material world?

Or, do you mean white supremacy as just a delusional state of mind?

But again, how does this delusional state make you less free?

Thordaddy said...

Mikey...

Even in my worst rhymes, the message is clear...

I owe you NOTHING, ya lil' black queer...

Strange black man from far or near...

Oh wait, this black man not here...

He's the black man WHO ain't black...

Isn't that queer???

I mean, isn't that strange???

Asks nine outta ten sistas, they say you off the range...

Means, you out in la la land...

Still you wearin' the black armband...

Always sqwawkin' 'bout lendin' duh motherland uh hand...

But you ain't magne...

Nah, you stacked magne...

Infusin' capital in yo' recruited talent, magne...

Still get on DV and proceed to lose your brains...

Asks a question...

And ignore the answa in vain...

Yeah dawg, that's punk bitch, magne!!!