Sunday, March 18, 2012

HEGELIAN HEAD FAKE 3 • PLANTATION MEME SHIFTS FROM SYMPATHY TO CYNICISM TO SCORN (4 Months Later • Can DV Call 'EM?)



Denmark Vesey said ...

Immediately after the quake, the Plantation fed the peasants a steady diet of "Shock & Sympathy" memes. Talking heads spoke on air in hushed voices filled with horror as they
counted bodies as if they were keeping score.

Twelve hours after the quake, the Plantation went into action mode and distributed the "Do Something About It" meme. Neoliberal peasants who think they are saving the world because they drive "low carbon" vehicles were falling all over each other to be the first to "Tweet $5" and very publicly post "donation links" on Facebook. I won't say any names DMG. People who couldn't find Haiti on a map last week or still can't tell you the difference between Francois Duvalier and Jean-Bertrand Aristide adopted holier than-thou attitudes because they felt they "did something" about Haiti.

When President Obama announced he was giving a whole $Huuuundred Millyun Dollas in aid to Haiti, the peasantry shared one large collective warm n fuzzy.

72 Hours after the quake, the Plantation leaked a new meme: "Cynicism". It became all the rage for apologist Plantation Negros and faux conservative Crackas to regurgitate eugenics conspiracy theories insisting the Haitians suffer as they do, not because of 200 years of neocolonialist warfare, but because they are black and somewhat less than human. I won't say any names Undercoverblackman. This particular font of peasant builds his premise upon the false notion that Haiti's relative lack of development is actually a reflection of the capabilities of the Haitian people.

Which is as silly an assertion as would be charging the Iraqi people, 100 years after continuous US invasions interventions and occupations, with "failing to develop".

As we approach the 96th hour, the Plantation floods the neuroreceptors of the peasant class with the inevitable images of dirty dark desperate savage black Haitians looting ... in HD. "Is money going to really help these people"? Becomes the new mantra. "How long can America continue to come to the rescue?" is the new rallying cry. "Fuck Haiti! What about Detroit?" pops up like mushrooms after a rain on the Facebook pages of Plantation Negros tired of the story and ready to get back to football.

Before the buildings in Port Au Prince stopped shaking, I knew the greatest threat to the Haitian people was not rubble, hunger or disease. Their greatest danger was the coming memetic assault which would threaten their very existence.

Haiti is not the scene of a 2 minute earthquake. Haiti is a 2 century old crime scene. Everything is a meme. Free people select and create the memes that work for them.

Plantation Negros consume the memes fed them.

60 comments:

Unknown said...

I already knew this was comin'

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Anonymous said...

This is the type of writing I wish to see in the New York Times. My opinion is not coming from a 'I agree with the "conspiracy theories" of DV' (even though Jesse Ventura insists the corporate sponsored convoluted 911 story is a conspiracy theory in itself)but thoughtful coverage. After the 60's & 70's when Negroes got in front of the camera talk'n 'bout:

"We are in solidarity with the Vietnamese people against the cowardly American troops"
-Huey P.

"They use different tactics but are after the same goal"
-MLK when asked about the Panther Party

"Yes, two...Stalin & Hitler. Because of the war, Negroes got jobs"
-pre-Islam Malcolm X (when asked by a reporter if he believed that there were any good white people)

That was it for lett'n them big lips flap dissent all up in Jim Hurlbut shyt

Rather or not one agrees with any of those statements is not the issue, but the fact that there use to exist a FULL representation of a black voice (my theory is because a lot of white folks were so appalled that Negroes were not some monochromatic pre-programed drones knowing their rightful place).

Just like Sidney Poitier was at the top of the list when you called on a Negroe to have a leading role, today you have certain names at the top of the list when you call for an opinion.

That is corporate media's prerogative. It's their right to be partial to those that sign the paychecks. Just like I can't blame Marvel & DC comics for the stupid ass black characters they have or Hollywood delivering the same jack ass white heroes as seen in the 60's.

However, it's just like Ellis Henican told Bill O'Reilly, "I have made the same bargain that all of us do that enters the public realm."

Basically, if you put out the info get ready for resistance if it's problematic. Everybody is not just about to conform because the rest do it. As a child Robert F. Williams witnessed a cop punch a black woman while Negroes stood and watched. As a child John Brown watched a slave child get beat by a shovel and swore from that moment to fight against slavery.

It takes more than someone to openly say, "I have evil intentions against you" for some of us to have an epiphany. What's fascinating is that some of us will interpret someone cutting us off on the road, or looking at us the wrong way, or suggesting something about our character to a colleague as reason enough to suspect that person as being devious. That's a conspiracy theory on a domesticated level. Yet when it comes to a social observance, all of that everyday logic flies straight out the window like using karate in a street fight.

So yes DV deserves challenge but so does telling me that some steel beams magically melted from some Hollywood looking explosion while passports survived. Atleast give me something poetic like Jesus held those passports in his bosom until the fire was bested.

However, I do enjoy two sides battled out on this blog, it allows for observation and decision making by weighing evidence. Which CORPORATE MEDIA does not ALLOW for the very reason that your info is challenging and it can make it very difficult to push agendas that get questioned all the time.

Anonymous said...

DV FOR PRESIDENT! NO JOKE! STRAIGHT UP!

uglyblackjohn said...

@ Gee-Chee - Yeah.. as Mills (or maybe it was Fish) stated, DV runs a 'Hot Fucking Club' here.
And sometimes there is some squabbin' in the street.
He (like many of the participants here) may not be the most read site(s) - but those who own the most read sites read his (theirs).
DV - "Seminal not derivative".

Constructive Feedback said...

Denmark Vesey - your analysis on this present Haiti situation has been FOUL from the start.

YOU attempt to interlace the views heard from the PEANUT GALLERY in America with the OFFICIAL POSITION of the United States AND the VIEWS OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICAN CITIZENS - as evidenced by our CHARITABLE MONETARY CONTRIBUTIONS.

DV - WHAT IF the collective American citizenry DID call the Haitians "Savages" BUT where the largest global contributors? The Private American funded the recovery efforts to the tune of $400 million while the US government provided $1.75 BILLION in equipment operations and MANPOWER?

Which of these two "resources" are more RELEVANT to the issues on the ground in Haiti? (The SENTIMENT or the MATERIAL CONTRIBUTIONS AND SERVICES on the damned ground?)

You are playing in the margins here DV.

There is a time to be a PERPETUAL REVOLUTIONARY and then there is a time for YOU to figure out what is IMPORTANT and then set up filters on the STATIC (aka: Bull Shyt).

REGARDLESS of what any "hater" based in America has to say - THE HAITIANS are in a "100% NEED" mode.

IF you want to have the last laugh against the "haters" then your mission needs to be to get that land and others in the Black Diaspora to the point where they DON'T NEED THE STINKING RESOURCES FROM THESE 'FOUL' SOURCES.

You focus on "Reparations from the PAST". You NEED TO focus on COMPETENCIES FOR THE FUTURE.

Undercover Black Man said...

Denmark.

How come you haven't been writing about the ongoing "neocolonialist warfare" in Haiti... until now?

Could it be that you just like attention?

Cool if you do. Keep playing your games. I'm playing a game within a game. It's called Highjack the Thread.

Undercover Black Man said...

Can a case be made that the people of Haiti would be better off today if they had been enslaved longer?

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Can a case be made that the people of Haiti would be better off today if they had been enslaved longer?[/quote]

NO!!!!!!

Slavery is INVOLUNTARY SERVITUDE.
There is no EQUAL RESPECT for all beings.

UBM:

I do believe that we need to express more intellectually boldness and EXTRACT some of the essential INFRASTRUCTURAL elements that came from Colonization:

* Building and Civil Engineering Standards (ie: surveying and mapping out the street grids)

* Government Institutions - various ministries to manage the national issues

I call for IN-SOURCING of some of these nations where "professional management" is brought in to assemble a system and plug the residents into the structure that has been assembled.

Slavery/Colonialism EXPRESSED NO RIGHTS for the masses. This can't be permitted today.

At the same time FREEDOM and SELF-DETERMINATION can prove DEADLY if there are no sound INSTITUTIONS that can leverage the abundant human resources, allowing them to apply their INTELLIGENCE and PRODUCTIVITY toward the national good - one community/family at a time.

Denmark Vesey said...

Brotha Gee-Chee! Black John!

Thank you my brothas. Thank you.

It aint easy givin' ol' DV a 'Big Ups' around here.

The haters hate it. (I'm sure you just caused Mike Fisher to pour a drink and DMG to beat his kids.)

Shit. For barely even publicly agreeing with DV, one risks being labeled a 'sycophant' around this camp.

It takes courage to acknowledge the truth when everyone else is lying. That's why it's normally the sistas who will flash DV the occasional thumbs up.

(Peep the 'peer reviewed study' in the video below which illustrates the courage necessary to tell the truth, when the majority is lying.)

Denmark Vesey said...

"Denmark.

How come you haven't been writing about the ongoing "neocolonialist warfare" in Haiti... until now? Could it be that you just like attention?"


OvertlySillyMan,

You are really trying too hard now.

You need to know when to take a loss. It's fourth quarter. You down 40. Why risk an ankle? Go sit on the bench.

1) Peep my archives.

2) I connect the memetic dots in every fucking thing I've ever posted.

3) Don't try to change the subject.

You chose to champion the meme which states: 'Haitians Are Savages Whose Lack Of Development Vindicates The Slave Trade Because Their Experiment In Liberty Proves Blacks Are Animals & Better Off Slaves To White Men".

You are the modern day equivalent of a negro runaway slave catcher.

When a brother escapes the plantation, you run after him faster than the Plantation owner.

When you catch him, you beat him harder, and allow the hounds to rip at his genitals until your Massa tells you to pull them off.

You are that dude.

So GTFOH with that "well .... why didn't you say so before" bullshit.

If this was South Africa, there would be a tire around your neck and you would detect the faint smell of gasoline.

Denmark Vesey said...

Constructive Feedback,

Brother. What you don't seem to understand, is that what happened to Haiti ... did not happen by accident.

It was the product of intent.

It was.

We can argue about it.

Have a "link war". Whatever.

It was the product of intent.

That "intent" to sabotage, destroy and punish the people of Haiti, did not stop with that earthquake.

It may actually have increased with that earthquake.

Until that crime is acknowledged, it can't be stopped.

Until it's stopped, no matter how many $5 Tweets Americans send, the Haitian people will be doomed.

Undercover Black Man said...

If this was South Africa, there would be a tire around your neck and you would detect the faint smell of gasoline.

Dang. So much for a free and bold exchange of ideas.

Go 'head, DV. Unleash your inner Tonton Macoute.

You gonna have to murder me to keep me quiet.

Denmark Vesey said...

"Go 'head, DV. Unleash your inner Tonton Macoute." UBM

LOL. Noooooo. You my man UB.

I wouldn't let the brothas set you on fire.

But, I would have to pull the tire off your neck.

You are a little confused about which team you should be pulling.

Undercover Black Man said...

^ I'm just posing a thought experiment, brah. I'm saying... we know what Haiti would look like today if there had been no revolution... if it had remained a French colony.

It would look like Martinique and Guadeloupe. Those colonies never did gain independence. Today they are considered part of the nation of France.

You hear black people complaining?

You think Martinicans and Guadeloupeans today wish like hell that they'd kicked whitey off the island 200 years ago, like the Haitians did?

Do you, DV, argue that Martinicans and Guadeloupeans endure a living hell because they're not independent?

Come on, dude... deal wit' me.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Brother. What you don't seem to understand, is that what happened to Haiti ... did not happen by accident.

It was the product of intent.


That "intent" to sabotage, destroy and punish the people of Haiti, did not stop with that earthquake.

It may actually have increased with that earthquake.


Until that crime is acknowledged, it can't be stopped.

Until it's stopped, no matter how many $5 Tweets Americans send, the Haitian people will be doomed.[/quote]

DV - As I said to you before: Where as I have fundamental contempt for KCNulan (:lol:) I like you man.

Unfortunately when one attempts to translate your revolutionary spirit on this point into ACTUAL POLICY DIRECTIVES - you prove to be irrepressibly frustrating.

DV - If I took you at your word that "American Twitting $5 to Haitian relief is worthless in addressing the real issue at hand" and then got on a campaign for them to STOP - would this move help your agenda or HURT the Haitians?

I stated before DV - IF America and France took $22 BILLION in gold ingots and delivered the pallets into the center point of Haiti and then closed off the entire island from all traffic in and out - THIS WOULD SET OFF THE BIGGEST BLOOD BATH known to man as they go after the GOLD - forsaking HUMAN LIFE in the process.

You harp upon the $90 million francs that was lifted from Haiti back in 1791.

THIS MONEY, in your version of history is what imperiled Haiti to the point that it resides today.

I don't hear anything about the CAPACITY of the Haitian nation to crack the egg shell that you say it has been confined in.

DV - do you think that the previous American military interventions in the 1900's were to steal its resources OR in the wake of massive political upheaval and carnage?

IF the 2010 MILITARY intervention enters the History Books, DV - do you think that your great-great grand-children will see this intervention as providing HELP for the desperate Haitians OR will the history book that you will "bequeath" to them tell of American-generated exploitation and oppression?

I can't deal with the misaligned permanent rebellion DV.

DMG said...

Guess you need attention. Sorry, I won't give it to you. I'd rather just say fuck you, and leave it at that.

Anonymous said...

Africans did not sell other Africans indiscriminately. Specific events led to the deportation of specific peoples, either as individuals or as groups.

African slaves were used as porters, soldiers, palace guards, domestics, and concubines but mostly as agricultural laborers. They either lived with their owner’s family and worked partly for their master and partly for themselves or were settled in slave villages to work as sharecroppers. In these arrangements, their status resemble that of European serf, as historian John Thortonton points out: “African slaves were often treated no differently from peasant cultivators, as indeed they were the functional equivalent of free tenants and hired workers in Europe.” In addition, “slaves were often employed as administrators, soldiers, and even royal advisors, thus enjoying great freedom of movement and elite lifestyles.” The absolute chasm that existed between the slave and the slaveholder in the Americas was unknown in Africa. Several European travelers who were familiar with the American system expressed surprise at the “leniency” of the African moel.

Francis Moore noted in the 1730’s that “some of the Negroes [in Gambia] have many house slaves, which are their greatest glory; those slaves live so well and easy, that it is sometimes a hard matter to know slaves from their masters and mistresses.” In Senegal, noted another European, they were “treated so well eating with their masters, working along with them, and being as well clothed…that it is impossible to distinguish them from free men.”

A British traveler to Senegal remarked, “I never saw any whip or instrument of torture used on that part of the coast, nor do I believe, from the enquiries I made, that Slaves are treated with severity.”

-Servants of Allah
African Muslim Slaves in the Americas

I recall a talk show that pointed out definitions we use on the issue of African and European slavery. The guest argued that European slavery should be categorized as captivity because there existed no alternatives to freedom whereas African slavery instituted a system of working off debt or being a prisoner by way of the judicial system.

When people argue that "Africans had slaves also" most likely in their mind the same type of bestial
system was applied. I think people forget the complexities of human societies of the past, that they are not always easily summed up in PC plastic finger pointing.

Not at anyone just side notes to the issue of slavery being brought up. It's an argument white people and equally black people don't tend to explore as an actual system of governance. Truth told, our debt system resembles the African model of slavery. Accept in this case you are kept in debt through their use of usury.

chosen said...

@UBM fyi, Guadeloupeans and Martinicians may not 'endure a living hell', but I can say with certainty they don't enjoy the standard of living that their metropolitan French counterparts do. Guadeloupeans protested low working wages and high prices for approximately the first half of 2009, and it made int'l news. And there is a small segment of the population in GD that would like to be independent from France; but the wider population knows (or rather believes) that the only items they have to contribute to the world market is fruit, therefore they feel a dependent relationship with France is needed.

Still, whether or not their reality is a living hell is beside the point, what is their position in the society in which they are apart ? (France) The answer is ... the bottom. Would they be better off without France? Perhaps, if there is self-determination and a consciousness that truly believes they'd be better off without France. Otherwise, a colonized people with a colonized consciousness will remain content living under a hegemonic power asking themselves questions like ...

"Can a case be made that the people of Haiti would be better off today if they had been enslaved longer?"

Undercover Black Man said...

^ So I suppose no Guadeloupean wants to trade places with the average Haitian, correct?

Yep... a "colonized consciousness" is a bitch.

Undercover Black Man said...

Would they be better off without France? Perhaps, if there is self-determination and a consciousness that truly believes they'd be better off without France.

Can YOU make a credible argument that they'd be better off without France?

I'd like to hear what such an argument sounds like.

truthispain said...

"Can a case be made that the people of Haiti would be better off today if they had been enslaved longer?"

Absolutely. Blacks fare best when ruled, colonized and led by any other race than their own. Otherwise, they will just revert to their animalistic natures - like a pack of rabid hyenas.

Latest example is Zimbabwe. But it's the same all over the world - the common denominator being Black genetic biological determinism.

And the sooner Blacks admit this, the sooner they beg for some White or other race colonialism again, the FAR BETTER OFF THEIR WELFARE WILL BE!!! Enough with this dangerous fantasy of racial self-sufficiency and victimization!

Undercover Black Man said...

^ Or you could respond under your own name, Denmark.

Where would you rather have lived in 2009... Haiti or Martinique?

CNu said...

{yawn}

FEK has a single, solitary approach he's used, over, and over, and over again for framing his hyper-assimilationist chindribble.

Would somebody else PUH-LEEEZE demonstrate that they've been at school long enough to snare and expel this tapeworm?

Thanks...,

Undercover Black Man said...

^ In the time it took you to type that, Craig... couldn't you have presented a compelling rebuttal??

CNu said...

no fully exposed kneegrow...,

Anonymous said...

UBM said:
It would look like Martinique and Guadeloupe. Those colonies never did gain independence. Today they are considered part of the nation of France.

You hear black people complaining?

You think Martinicans and Guadeloupeans today wish like hell that they'd kicked whitey off the island 200 years ago, like the Haitians did?

KonWomyn said:
YES! I know you know about the Martinique Independence Movement and the Guadeloupe Communist Party and all the movements throughout history, but you're playing your selective memory game. Defending Whitey seems to be your default position - why? For controversy's sake or are you really Uncle Ruckus not so Undercover?

DV:
Holla! Sorry for not replying. I will.

Constructive Feedback said...

I wonder if KCNulan checked the other links on YouTube?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR8rvp1_f9k

Undercover Black Man said...

KonWomyn: Yeah, leftists will be leftists.

But earlier this month, a whopping 79 percent of voters in Martinique rejected a referendum calling for greater autonomy from France.

You can call that a "colonized consciousness" if you want to. But it is definitely the will of the people.

CNu said...

rotflmbao...,

DV - As I said to you before: Where as I have fundamental contempt for KCNulan (:lol:) I like you man.

Ronald,

you pretending to have your lips poked out in my direction in anything besides the kneeled DSL position is some real comedy gold....,

Submariner said...

Can YOU make a credible argument that they'd be better off without France?

I'd like to hear what such an argument sounds like.

UBM


If truly interested, I would refer you to the works of Franz Fanon.

truthispain said...

Let's be honest here - "emancipation" was the real enslavement.

"Emancipating" negro slaves is like parents "emancipating" their newborn babies. It's a death sentence and downright parental negligence.

Let's end this liberal conspiracy to enslave negroes to their own demise and call for true emancipation back under the care of White massas!!!

I know plantation negroes might protest at this - but millions of Black lives are at stake here! It has become readily apparent in this experiment over the last century that White massas were caretakers, not oppressors (relatively speaking), for Black folk all over the world. And if negroes want a better life, their best shot is under White (or other) colonialism.

NEA said...

First and foremost, let us do EVERYTHING we can to help those in desperate need right now. That is an obligation that the U.S. and other blessed rich nations have. That is a priority.

Now, I applaud DV for making the point that we ought to use this opportunity (although tragic) to do more than just what meets the immediate 1st aid needs of the nation. And although some might not agree, knowing history is imperative if we are to provide any genuine assistance.

You all can continue to argue about where the responsibilities lie for the present conditions of the island. By all means, continue to argue about what the U.S. and other countries can and ought to do for Haiti and other developing nations in the long term, and what these developing nations are capable of doing themselves.

What suffers here is the truth and of course Haiti (or the whole of Africa for that matter). I'm personally not convinced either way. All I know is that it does nobody any good to excuse the Black leaders of 3rd world nations, who are non-visionary and to whom power is not about government but about personal enrichment.

A friend had sent me the below read a few days ago. I thought it was interesting to post because both Detroit and Zimbabwe have come up here in the discussions re: Haiti.

Feel free to rebut anything or everything in it.

http://www.nationofcowards.us/?p=3865#comments

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Denmark Vesey said...

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Denmark Vesey said...

Thank you Anonymous.

Glad to be of help.

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Anonymous said...

I'm confused on the question of being better off with or without France?

I mean, the nature of the 'hypothetical' baffles me. If one were to pose the question to Lil Wayne if he would 'choose his position in the world in the hip-hop market or where Tupac is right now, I'm pretty sure he would choose his living, breathing, money spending, backstage groupie toss'n lifestyle.
If you ask him years ago before he was a 'nobody'(in the secular since) if he would entertain a free wish to become Tupac, his answer may have been on some "Sim, sim, salabim'ness."

Would Jesse Jackson choose his position or where Martin Luther King Jr. is?

I don't understand what value comes out of that sort of question.

I mean are we judging a people that were enslaved and were like 'anything is better than this'? I don't get it. I mean if Sun Ra & Stevie Wonder fantasized about going to Saturn...Saturn...the vacuum of space Saturn...as appose to being here in America...I can only imagine what a slave felt.

To ask a slave in the 1800's 'aren't you glad your folks didn't revolt back in the 1500's?' otherwise you wouldn't enjoy this measure of comfort...today...in this time period. Who wouldn't choose sleeping on straw with open sores as oppose to being tossed over the side of a ship chained to a few hundred nigras?
If we were in the Seminole Indian Wars, who's side would I be on? The Indians or the colonial forces. Well, if we're talking some pretend time travel stuff, I would be down with the Indians along with AK's for everyone.

I just don't get the "make believe'ness" part or the idea of the hypothetical.

To go through some playing 're-writing history just for gags' is kind of a weird. I think if people here were pop'n off like that, we would all be clock'n doe all in Hollywood.

Who wants to trade places with Michael Jackson? Ask me that in '84 you'll get a different answer.

Thordaddy said...

Gee-Chee...
This TD
Lemme help ya solve the mystery
Of UBM's internal battle 'tween
White supremacy n radical autonomy
The latter just liberation to the extremity
Means Haiti...
Take care uh Haiti!!!
But white supremacy...
Now, that sez liberals
Come to the rescue n cross the sea...
Means Haiti...
Plantation negro as told by DV!!!
But UBM
Say it necessary...
Not white seperatist supremacy 
But white liberal all-inclusive ideology...
Says white liberals have the methodology 
To solve the dark island's many pathologies...
DV agree, but the paradigm
Needs tweaking so he don't agree...
This DV doin' his radical autonomy
What that tweak is
Is still a mystery...
Reparations???
Isolation???
Seperation???

Why don't sum theez bling bling nigels scoop up that nation???

Ain't it time theez richest of black cats cure they alienation???

What's the hesitation???

Leverage these white liberals out they cash in the most audacious of meme creations...

 

Submariner said...

Oh Gawd. I hate to do this but......
That's the problem with cultural appropriators. They never seem to get it just right and they wear stuff out to the point of being threadbare.

KonWomyn said...

UBM
Sho 'nuff, but can we call that a 'free and fair' election or to use DV's term Hegelian headfake? Look at the circumstances; violent riots had been spreading across the French-controlled islands and thinking carefully Sarkozy offers elections for more autonomy not full independence. The riots were for economic reasons and offering more autonomy was a cleverly calculated move. Obviously the electorate would vote in panic mode and say 'no' because of the immediate implications 'yes' would have on the economic benefits the island receives from France.

If you really wanna know if the people of Martinique and Guadeloupe want complete independence, don't look at some headfake, hastily organized referendum, look at what's happening on the ground: protests at the economic dominance of the French Crackers and high unemployment, the Independence Movement holds the majority of seats and they want complete independence - so if the Martinicians didn't want it, why did they vote for them instead of Cesaire's Progressive Party? Of course there are other reasons, but freedom and more equality are def primary concerns.

...one

Kit (Keep It Trill) said...

Excellent post, DV.

Thordaddy said...

Submariner...
Boy, u out tuh sea...
If ya ain't battlin' fo' ya freedom
U got no chance of being free...
Black cats like YOU claim this need...
Wanna be radically autonomous
Wanna b free...
But u uh lying skeez...
Just like all theez prep school rappers
Bouncin' high 'tween the real O.G.s...

What are you to do about your bros in Haiti???

Wax eloquent 'bout battlin' wills...

Just recitin' sum history???

Thanks fool, yo' solution izza mystery...

I say big mouths like you quit tuggin' on whitey...  

This ole nigel hustle dun seen its day...
Young lil' nigels ain't 'bout tuh b swayed...
N sho'nuff TD ain't 'bout tuh get played...

I use whatever means necessary...
Most certainly appropriating your game!!!
But u lame...

Where are the big bling nigels seeking eternal fame???

Where are the big bling nigels playin' Abel to Cain???

Where are the big bling nigels make Haiti sane???

All theez loud cappin' nigels braggin' 'bout they successes do it in vain...

Where duh blood flow in this transAtlantic vein...

ITZ.ALL.A.MYTH.DAWG 
N yur reluctance 2 ADMIT THIS is so insane...

U give two shits 'bout Haiti and it's yur nonexistent solutions that's tuh blame!!! 

Thordaddy said...

Gee-Chee...
If you're African American male
The penultimate battle
Is against the white supremacist male...
But this battle rather pale
Compared to the one in the head
Of the average black male...
Is white supremacy an illusion???
Or is it real???
If it is the former...
CAN IT STEAL NIGEL'S WILL???
If it is the latter...
Does battlin' it even matter???
Itza conundrum make sum nigels
Badder...
Make sum nigels sadder...
Make otha nigels fatter...
Make most nigels chatter...
Make uh few nigels shatter...

Ask ya self Gee-Chee,

Does white supremacy matter???

And how's this effect Haiti and her chance to climb the ladder???

CNu said...

Sub, thanks for dropping that Harry Allen neutron bomb....,

Thordaddy said...

Dropped uh neutron bomb???

Mo' like dropped uh rotten plumb
Think recitin' history
Goin' right the wrongs...
Uzza ding dong!!!
Cuz in a radically autonomous society
Them wrongs long gone...

All ya got now is sorry references to the Vietcong...

It ain't the elephant in the room
Itz muffugah King Kong

Theez richest nigels in the world
Singin' Haiti's swan song...
Actin' like they connect wiff Haiti
Real strong...
Playin' like they Cheech tuh Haiti's burnout Chong...

But all one needs to ask theez nigels...

How YOU RIGHT THEEZ WRONGS???

{{{crickets}}}

It ain't through seperation or segregation...
Then it be subterfuge or subjugation!!!

THEEZ NIGELS IN A STATE OF ALIENATION...

Means they alien in this nation...

Too plantation tuh give off the reservation
Or so revolutionary they drivin' transformation...

BUT RIGHT NOW IN HAITI IS CHANCE FOR CAPITALIZATION...

But theez big bling nigels really parasites in gestation...

Thordaddy said...

Jay Z
Diddy 
Master P
N lil' weezy...

10 figure ballers
Leverage 30 thousand million Gs...

This enuff buy Port-au-Prince
B the Big Bling Nigel Kings...

Poof!!!

This just uh dream...
Uh white supremacist scheme
The alternate meme
Set against the most diabolical theme...

Nigels wanna be free by staying in captivity...

Psychologically, this the method keep whitey so guilty...

But the greedy gotta way of makin' ya guilt-free...

Black cats freely engage in radical autonomy...

In layman's terms, means they at war with whitey and his country...

Rootless and no identity BUT MOST DEFINITELY FREE...

Theez nigels lash out at Supremacy...

Question all authority and legitimacy...

BUT THEY WILL NOT SEPERATE...

So they mos' def mercenary...  

Submariner said...

White people try too hard. Thordaddy above is like Katie Couric trying to drop it like it's hot or a white male colleague trying to dap me up or call me man. I feel embarrassed for them.

Thordaddy said...

Subversionary...

Cobb wants to know whether you're "Negro" or "Black?"

NEA said...

Thordaddy,
What exactly is YOUR definition of radical autonomy?

Thordaddy said...

NEA,

Radical autonomy is the ability to do what one wants unimpeded. Radical autonomy is the rejection of all restraint and the embrace of unlimited and absolute freedom. Radical autonomy is self-annhilation.

Radical autonomy is being "Black" and not "Negro" according to Cobb.

CNu said...

NEA,

didn't I tell you that clearly articulating the meaning of "radical autonomy" is a feat demonstrably beyond the very limited capabilities of this mouth-breathing peasant?

Thordaddy said...

NEA,

A skilled radical autonomist will suggest that many things are undefineable. This is a way to maximize one's autonomy. He will even suggest that others have defined it when in reality they have only given a comparative relationship between the "Negro" and "Black."

When one recognizes that per Cobb, that a "Black" is a radical autonomist VOLUNTARILTY ALIENATED FROM HIS ENVIRONMENT then it is clear that the blackness is simply how the radical autonomy manifests. One's blackness is a tactic to maximize one's autonomy as opposed to the Negro seeking freedom through consitution and belief in The One True God.

Thordaddy said...

NEA...
The answers aren't complex
They're simplicity 
People want the finer things in life
People strive for supremacy
Cats who feign anti-supremacy
Are wolves in sheep's clothing
SELLING YOU DEPENDENCY...

It does not render you unfree
For TD to be the best he can be
Likewise, I'll still be free 
When you the best you can be...

UNLESS...

You into radical autonomy???

That means all bets off cuz you are the enemy
Without constitution 
You can do anything...
Call yourself a black liberationist
Or the next coming of ML King...
But you can also kill and feign
Defame my name...
And say I hate the game...
But these cheaters in life
Going down in flames...
Cuz when the dust settles
Ain't no crying shame

The BLACK radical autonomist seeks self-annihilation...

Or else he relegated to being the Negro's dame!!!  

NEA said...

Still undefined.

Doesn't sound like it's necessarily a bad thing, depending on context.

No big deal, I get your point TD.

Thordaddy said...

NEA,

Radical autonomy is undefined for a reason. It "helps" maximize one's autonomy. But these cats STILL LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD so they have to pick PARTICULAR MANIFESTATIONS of radical autonomy.

"Black" liberationist

"Christian" abortion advocate

"American" jihadist

Pro-choice "mother"

Worshipper of "unknowable" God

Atheist "scientist"

Elin and Tiger Woods...

CNu said...

NEA, without Black folk strategically demanding and challenging and overturning the legally codified failure of America to live up to its professed constitutional ideals, there would be autonomy to speak of in this country.

As it stands, the perversion of the 14th amendment remains one of the great blights on said ideals - very much still in need of radical reform.

CNu said...

My friend Paco Nathan put it thus;

How much did the 14th Amendment actually get used to benefit African Americans?

Writing fifty years later in 1938, US Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black echoed Lincoln's eleventh-hour realization: "...of the cases in this Court in which the Fourteenth Amendment was applied during the first fifty years after its adoption, less than one-half of one percent invoked it in protection of the negro race, and more than fifty per cent asked that its benefits be extended to corporations...

The notion that corporations self-organize, self-reproduce, self-maintain, self-perpetuate, etc., should not be a huge conceptual hurdle. Consequently, theory about the phenomenological description of an organism based on ideas about linguistic domain — well, that's a mouthful, but it comes in handy for analyzing the corporate form.

On a related track, a former UCLA professor and noted economic theorist named Kenichi Ohmae specializes in the analysis of emerging globalism. He also predicted (some say "encouraged") at least two recent world financial market crashes. Dr Ohmae has proposed a theory about how corporations operate. Namely, to participate in the global economy circa 2000, a transnational must operate simultaneously in four "dimensions". Dr Ohmae articulates these as the visible dimension, the borderless dimension, the cyber dimension, and the dimension of multiples. These translate, respectively, to the arena of "bricks and mortar" business and social contract, the global markets enjoyed by transnationals, the area of computers and media, and the arbitrage of financial instruments (e.g., currencies, stocks, pensions, etc.) in general.

I propose reframing Ohmae's four "dimensions", stated in terms of linguistic domain along the lines of how I just described where a corporation "lives". In that sense, we find a basis of four domains: social contract, law, media, and arbitrage. We may also borrow a fine set of modeling tools from biology for describing the phenomena of corporate form. Recalling the historical opinion stated earlier, the representation of sublation as a corporate belief structure, and the observed rate of sublation as a reflex mechanism, it is no stretch to talk about corporations in terms of phenomenology and metabolism. Armed with 21st century tools, one can trace the autopoiesis of corporate metabolism quite readily. In particular, they behave in some ways (organization) like sponges, in other ways (reproduction) like bacteria, and in other ways (adaptation) like slime molds.

Again, if you use that notion, cite me. This represents original work here, folks, slime molds and all, unveiled in print for the first time. Paco Xander Nathan - Corporate Metabolism

Thordaddy said...

NEA,

What CNu meant to say is that in a radically autonomizing society, insatiable dependency is power.

Undercover Black Man said...

CNu is back to reading comic books.

CNu said...

fully exposed kneegrow - what were you doing that caused you to become thordaddy patient zero?