Sunday, January 15, 2012

Is President Obama's Surge A Trap?

Cynthia McKinney said ...
Last night, President Obama announced both his decision to add 30,000 U.S. troops to the mire in Afghanistan and his desire to see other countries and N.A.T.O. match his surge. Thanks to U.S. taxpayers, mercenaries will continue to be a part of the foreign presence in Afghanistan. The Republicans support the President’s move and are expected to reward President Obama with the bulk of their Congressional votes to pass his plan. CONT=>

Mr. Gray Conservative
said ...
Mr. President, you say that we were compelled to fight a war in Afghanistan because on September 11, 2001, nineteen men—belonging to a group you refer to as "al Qaeda"—managed to establish control over approximately four pieces of American's transportation infrastructure which were used to murder nearly 3,000 people.

Mr. President, you say that this group, "al Qaeda", was allowed to maintain a safe-haven in Afghanistan from which to plan and train for their attacks.

Mr. President, according to the FBI, the knowledge and training which was required to pilot the hi-jacked vehicles that were used in the attack on America was gained in Florida. ...

Mr. President, the pilots who crashed planes into America's infrastructure on September 11, 2001 did not receive flight training in Afghanistan. There is no Afghan Flight Training School in Afghanistan.

Mr. President, how will sending 34,000 additional troops to Afghanistan prevent someone from executing another attack on America when the nature of the instigating attacks depended upon the successful appropriation of America's own transportation infrastructure to achieve violent ends?

DMG said...
I think those who are most vocal about the Presidents decision, probably had two scripts made up. One AGAINST him withdrawing troops, and one AGAINST him escalating the conflict.

Personally, I think if any retaliation or defeat of Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan was to be achieved, the window has now passed. I actually doubt the objective of disabling Al-Qaeda can be achieved with military force. Poor folks tend to think poorly of people with guns making them more hungry, and nobody likes foreign forces coming into their house, no matter the intentions.
Denmark Vesey said ...
DMG, if we were ever able to "defeat Al-Qaeda" ... how would we know?

What does a "defeat of Al-Qaeda" look like?

Personally I think people who still use the term "Al Qaeda" as if there truly exists a centralized organized terrorist group threatening the United States ... are ... well ... stupid.

"Al Qaeda" is a boogie man term to pacify Plantation Negros & Plantation Crackas. A memetic invention of transnational intelligence agencies. An umbrella term applied to any faction of resistance to globalist hegemony. A Hegelian Head Fake. The first time Bin Laden ever heard the term "Al Qaeda" was on TV ... after the 911 attacks.

Until you average Americans understand the true nature of this "war" these shenanigans will continue unabated until they destroy this great nation.
NOT THAT I'M KEEPING SCORE

57 comments:

Anonymous said...

Eisenhower delivered what may be the last poignant public critique of US government decades ago. At the time it was a prediction, a foreshadowing, of what was to come. Move or simply sit and watch the military industrial congressional complex at work.

SimonGreedwell said...

"Good evening. To the United States Corps of Cadets, to the men and women of our armed services, and to my fellow Americans: I want to speak to you tonight about our effort in Afghanistan - the nature of our commitment there, the scope of our interests, and the strategy that my Administration will pursue to bring this war to a successful conclusion."

"To address these issues, it is important to recall why America and our allies were compelled to fight a war in Afghanistan in the first place. We did not ask for this fight. On September 11, 2001, nineteen men hijacked four airplanes and used them to murder nearly 3,000 people. They struck at our military and economic nerve centers. They took the lives of innocent men, women, and children without regard to their faith or race or station. Were it not for the heroic actions of the passengers on board one of those flights, they could have also struck at one of the great symbols of our democracy in Washington, and killed many more.

As we know, these men belonged to al Qaeda - a group of extremists who have distorted and defiled Islam, one of the world's great religions, to justify the slaughter of innocents. Al Qaeda's base of operations was in Afghanistan, where they were harbored by the Taliban - a ruthless, repressive and radical movement that seized control of that country after it was ravaged by years of Soviet occupation and civil war, and after the attention of America and our friends had turned elsewhere."

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Mr. President, you say that we were compelled to fight a war in Afghanistan because on September 11, 2001, nineteen men—belonging to a group you refer to as "al Qaeda"—managed to establish control over approximately four pieces of American's transportation infrastructure which were used to murder nearly 3,000 people.

Mr. President, you say that this group, "al Qaeda", was allowed to maintain a save-haven in Afghanistan from which to plan and train for their attacks.

Mr. President, according to the FBI, the knowledge and training which was required to pilot the hi-jacked vehicles that were used in the attack on America was gained in Florida.

Mr. President, nineteen men were able to attack America because they received training in Florida. While there, they became proficient enough to operate four pieces of America's own transportation infrastructure to carry out attacks against America's defense and financial infrastructure.

Mr. President, America's presence and operations in Afghanistan neither answers the question of how nineteen men were able to gain control of the infrastructure tools which they used to execute their attacks, nor does it solve the problem of how to prevent such attacks in the future.

Mr. President, the pilots who crashed planes into America's infrastructure on September 11, 2001 did not receive flight training in Afghanistan. There is no Afghan Flight Training School in Afghanistan.

Mr. President, how will sending 34,000 additional troops to Afghanistan prevent someone from executing another attack on America when the nature of the instigating attacks depended upon the successful appropriation of America's own transportation infrastructure to achieve violent ends?

DMG said...

I think those who are most vocal about the Presidents decision, probably had two scripts made up. One AGAINST him withdrawing troops, and one AGAINST him escalating the conflict.

Personally, I think if any retaliation or defeat of Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan was to be achieved, the window has now passed. I actually doubt the objective of disabling Al-Qaeda can be achieved with military force. Poor folks tend to think poorly of people with guns making them more hungry, and nobody likes foreign forces coming into their house, no matter the intentions.

No, Obama couldn't have gotten this decision correct with his detractors. Bush, however probably could. These same people bitching about Obama would have lined up to inhale every cubic centimeter of Bush and Co's. gaseous emissions.

Anonymous said...

If the government's been hijacked for decades what does the title US President have to do with it? Back and forth about Obama support is a red herring.

DMG said...

"A memetic invention of transnational intelligence agencies."

And you know this how? Because you made it up in your own head, or that your mental illness has led you to believe that you are omniscient?

You have no credibility. Your hatred of all things factual is but one of your weaknesses.

If you showed the least bit of knowledge about any subject, I'd debate you on Al-Qaeda.

So have you ever answered Casper about your knowledge of Hegel?

Denmark Vesey said...

Calm down Plantation MD ...

You know as much about the origins of the term "Al Qaeda" as you know about the origins of that monkey virus you allowed the Plantation to shoot up your nose.


Do you even know what "Al Qaeda" means in Arabic?

Well after you Google it, you may understand why no Arab would EVER name an organization "Al Qaeda".

It's WESTERN translation means "The Base".

In Arabic “al-Qaeda,” as in the phrase “Ana raicha al-Qaeda,” is a euphemism for "taking a shit".

The Martyr Aziz Taha,
Katibat al-Tawheed,
Sa'ad ibn abi Waqqass,
Asad al-Islam,
abu Hanifa al-Nu'man,
Abdullah ibn-al-Zubayr

Are Islamist terrorist / revolutionary organizations depending on whom you ask.

"Al Qaeda" was invented in a NeoCon conference room.

DMG said...

"You know as much about the origins of the term "Al Qaeda" as you know about the origins of that monkey virus you allowed the Plantation to shoot up your nose."

Fine. Then that makes me an expert, and you the conspiratorial dullard.

As much as I'd love for you to be correct about the Neo-con invention, you are unfortunately (and as always) incorrect.

Have you been right about ANYTHING, since I've been here? I can't think of any...but I don't follow all of your threads, so there's still hope for you.

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Nah DMG, you are incorrect on this one.

If you had a grasp of the Arabic language and culture, you would know that Al Qaeda, the Base, is not culturally a name any Islamic organization would choose.

An Arab/Islamic choosing a non-evocative, lame, sissy ass name like "Al Qaeda" makes about as much cultural sense as a White Supremacist organization naming itself The Martyrs Brigade of The Fallen Heroes of Palestine.

Wouldn't happen. If you heard it, you'd know it was a fake. Just like every Arabic speaker knows, whether they say it out loud or not, that Al Qaeda is a fake name.

Or perhaps just a mispronunciation of al-CIAda.

DMG said...

You know, if I were getting this information from a reputable source II, I just might take it into consideration. But unfortunately, your track record is less than pristine in the factual information department. You are better than our host by alot.

The CIA is a nice boogey man, but that's where you lose me. Everyone thinks they know so much about the covert operations of the CIA. And because of their secrecy, they won't deny the rumors. Sorry you just aren't credible.

KonWomyn said...

LOL.
Why don't you just Google it and see. II and DV 1 - DMG 0

Denmark Vesey said...

^^ See ... that's why the SISTA left your ass back at San Diego State or San Luis Abisto U or wherever it was that you went to get miseducated.

You cannot admit you are wrong.

Intellectual is an Arab American fluent in English and Arabic.

If she and I are wrong about the Arabic connotations of the term "Al Qaeda" ... it would be pretty easy to demonstrate as much and shut us both up.

Which is something you would love to do. But you can't.

Instead of admitting you are wrong doc ... you take the punk path of perpetuating a bitchy little "I'm right / you're wrong" back and forth.

That's why the Sista left you. It wasn't that she wanted a "thug".

She didn't want a bitchy super-sensitive insecure man.

DMG said...

KonWomyn,

Like you can keep score. No. I'll just call a friend from Saudi. Or better yet, walk across the hall to his office tomorrow morning. How's that? Now, who has more credibility an ACTUAL Arabic speaker, or one who may speak with mommy on occassion.

My dating life aside (and the hefer didn't leave, she got left and regretted it). Nobody is super sensitive, but I'll let you continue thinking you have a picture of me. Aren't you the cat who talks about his brand shoe because of the dollar value?

Now, our host is talking about admitting being wrong. The number of times (and this is daily), that I've proven you wrong is more than you can count. Brought facts, figures and lots of back up. Your ignorant ass, continually recycles the SAME LAME ASS ARGUMENTS ad nauseum, with different "sources" that are easily disproved. NOT ONE DAMN time have you had the courtesy, or the balls to admit that you are wrong.

I'm not an Arab speaker. What II says is possible. However, with her and your track record the plausibility is quite low, knowing your fondness for all things conspiracy, and your general eschewing of facts and evidence.

DMG said...

So MOTI, where were you miseducated?

Denmark Vesey said...

DMG ... that was a long post to simply say: "You have no idea what you are talking about".

These Fantasy arguments that you win full of FACTS & FIGURES can only be witnessed by you.

And sometimes Mike Fisher.

(Which speaks volumes, but we'll leave that alone.)

If you want to discuss politics and foreign affairs on this blog ... you are going to have to come with something a bit more intellectually potent than that NPR / Washington Post level nonsense you've been parroting so far.

THIS ISN'T MEDICAL SCHOOL DOC.

You are not getting graded on how well you absorb what you've been told.

Now it is time to THINK.

In order to better understand Al Qaeda you need to be familar with the Lavon Affair.

That's tonight's assignment.

Give me a 1 page essay on the Lavon Affair by tomorrow morning. Then we can continue.

Other than that ... let us better educated free thinkers do our thing without you butting in playing Status Quo Cop.

DMG said...

I'm sorry, my F student...it's the teacher who assigns the homework.

Why don't you answer ONE of the questions I've asked you over the last few months. What? You can't. That's what I thought....don't you have some lotion to rub on your hands?

KonWomyn said...

DMG
LOL. I'm doing good on keeping score. Check the record.

1. You went from saying II is "not credible" and upon hearing she was fluent in Arabic said nah I'll call a friend. Then finally admitted "its possible" II could be right.

So from II and DV - 1 DMG - 0 it is now II and DV - 2 DMG - 0.

2. Yesterday same thing; from dissing online education to admitting the benefit one might get from doing a Masters in Law online.

MF and DV - 1 DMG - 0

3. Today again you railed against DV for suggesting you were married yet on several occassions you previously you referred to your significant other as "my wife" and "happily" told your thug-luvin' ex you were not single.

By default game goes to DV.net because you failed to keep a straight story.

...still got more?

DMG said...

Baby, I have checked. You ain't even on the scoreboard yet. Give it time.

It's possible that that the sun will explode tomorrow. It isn't plausible. You understand that don't you?

Don't turn into the cackling mob on me.

KonWomyn said...

Sho' nuff in time, but I'm playing ref at the minute ; )

Intellectual Insurgent said...

You know, if I were getting this information from a reputable source II, I just might take it into consideration.

Dude, your "it's not a reputable source" argument is getting old. Either address it or leave it alone.

I speak mf'ing Arabic. My family speaks Arabic. My friends speak Arabic.

You don't. Quit arguin' just for the sake of it. Your just being a bitch now.

Casper said...

KW
LOL. I'm doing good on keeping score. Check the record.

Well keep it real... What about past topics... No biased BS here I thought??

Casper said...

In Arabic, al-Qaeda has four syllables. However, since two of the Arabic consonants in the name (the voiceless uvular plosive [q] and the voiced pharyngeal fricative [ʕ]) are not phones found in the English language, the closest naturalized English pronunciations include /ælˈkaɪdə/, /ælˈkeɪdə/, and less commonly four syllables, /ˌælkɑːˈiːdə/.[citation needed] Al-Qaeda's name can also be transliterated as al-Qaida, al-Qa'ida, el-Qaida, or al Qaeda.[14]

The name comes from the Arabic noun qā'idah, which means foundation or basis and can also refer to a military base. The initial al- is the Arabic definite article the, hence the base.[15]

Osama bin Laden explained the origin of the term in a videotaped interview with Al Jazeera journalist Tayseer Alouni in October 2001:

The name 'al-Qaeda' was established a long time ago by mere chance. The late Abu Ebeida El-Banashiri established the training camps for our mujahedeen against Russia's terrorism. We used to call the training camp al-Qaeda. The name stayed.[16]

It has been argued that two documents seized from the Sarajevo office of the Benevolence International Foundation prove that the name was not simply adopted by the mujahid movement and that a group called al-Qaeda was established in August 1988. Both of these documents contain minutes of meetings held to establish a new military group and contain the term "al-qaeda".[17]

In April 2002, the group assumed the name Qa'idat al-Jihad, which means "the base of Jihad". According to Diaa Rashwan, this was "apparently as a result of the merger of the overseas branch of Egypt's al-Jihad (EIJ) group, led by Ayman El-Zawahiri, with the groups Bin Laden brought under his control after his return to Afghanistan in the mid-1990s."[18]

Anonymous said...

Casper

Why the kneejerk reaction If you notice the incidences mentioned I was c-c-c-clearly talking about the last two days? Keep your 'scores' and let a 'sista' get on with keeping hers.
Aight?

Much Thanks
KW

Anonymous said...

Casper

Why the kneejerk reaction If you notice the incidences mentioned I was c-c-c-clearly talking about the last two days? Keep your 'scores' and let a 'sista' get on with keeping hers.
Aight?

Much Thanks
KW

Denmark Vesey said...

^^ Leave it to our resident Plantation Negro to cut and paste some NeoCon propaganda about the "etymology" of the word Al Qaeda.

LOL.

Did you read the part where the term was found in "minutes" from a meeting of terrorists.

LOL.

Yeah right. A bunch of terrorists are sitting around planning an attack and keeping "minutes".

Boy ... ya'll monkey muhfuggas will believe anything Massa puts in front of you.

Talk about a "Conspiracy Theory".

Casper said...

@DV...Do you stand behind this?!
Come on it's okay to admit you're wrong!

DV Said...
Do you even know what "Al Qaeda" means in Arabic?

Well after you Google it, you may understand why no Arab would EVER name an organization "Al Qaeda".

It's WESTERN translation means "The Base".

In Arabic “al-Qaeda,” as in the phrase “Ana raicha al-Qaeda,” is a euphemism for "taking a shit".

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Minutes of a meeting establishing a terrorist organization???

ROFLMEAO!!! Honestly, the absurdities the Plantation gets these miseducated little cut and pasters to believe is absolutely unbelievable and damn hilarious.

Casper said...

II
"If you had a grasp of the Arabic language and culture, you would know that Al Qaeda, the Base, is not culturally a name any Islamic organization would choose."

The Egyptian Islamic Jihad (Arabic: الجهاد الإسلامي المصري‎) (EIJ), formerly called simply Islamic Jihad (الجهاد الإسلامي and Liberation Army for Holy Sites[1]) originally referred to as "al-Jihad," and then "the Jihad Group", or "the Jihad Organization",[2] is an Egyptian Islamist group active since the late 1970s. It is under worldwide embargo by the United Nations as an affiliate of al-Qaeda.[3] It is also banned by several individual governments including that of the Russian Federation.[4] Since 1991 it has been led by Ayman al-Zawahiri.

The organization's original primary goal was to overthrow the Egyptian Government and replace it with an Islamic state. Later it broadened its aims to include attacking the United States and Israel interests in Egypt and abroad.

EIJ has suffered setbacks as a result of numerous arrests of operatives worldwide, most recently in Lebanon and Yemen.[citation needed] In June 2001, Al Qaeda and Egyptian Islamic Jihad, which had been associated with each other for many years, merged into "Qaeda al-Jihad."[5]

Anonymous said...

casper are you trying to prove II's point or argue against it?

you should let this one go homey.

Casper said...

Anon/II
"the Base, is not culturally a name any Islamic organization would choose."

Qaeda al-Jihad?? Go Figure!

Casper said...

KW
"Why the kneejerk reaction If you notice the incidences mentioned I was c-c-c-clearly talking about the last two days?"

Ahh score keeper.. Donald Trump went to instant replay.. You screwed up the soccer goal.. You're fired!

KonWomyn said...

LOL!

Ca-hahaha, Casper why you wanna be all up on DMG's scorecard?

It aint yours Bra.

Your playground envy's so punkish and sooo last season. Stop.

You can play if you wanna, KW will scratch up a card for the Friendly Ghost.

Show what you got, magne.

Casper said...

KW
"Ca-hahaha, Casper why you wanna be all up on DMG's scorecard? "

Wait a minute!... Are you or are you not all up on II and DV's score card.. Now Now Keep It Real!! KW

Casper said...

KW
"It aint yours Bra.
Your playground envy's so punkish and sooo last season. Stop.
You can play if you wanna, KW will scratch up a card for the Friendly Ghost. Show what you got, magne."

We call this wolfin! in my hood.. Show me what you got young lady ;)

But Keep It Real Mama!

KonWomyn said...

Boo!

I see you, li'l Ghost.

I thawt you wanted to play but you're really just wanna throw a tantrum. You're envy's turning a bile green rite abt now - jealous that II and DV got scores but Casper got none.

Why don't you worry about assembling those err "minutes" from the "terrorist meeting" instead of trying to distract the ref, huh?

Intellectual Insurgent said...

So tell me about those minutes of the terrorist meetings Casper. Because I am so amused by the visual.

Man in beard and turban at the front of the cave -

"yeah, you, Mohamed in the back, can you repeat what you said about hating America so the secretary can properly record your statements in our minutes, which we will store at corporate headquarters - which is really this cave - in case any of you would like to review them"?

"Ohhhh...Ahmed...you think we should call ourselves Al Qaeda al Jihad...that's great. Osama, Osama, we've got a smart one here. He wants us to call ourselves Al Qaeda. Maybe we can get uniforms with a little decal on the back. Secretary, make sure that is in the minutes. A-H-M-E-D. A-L-Q-A-E-D-A. It was his idea"

Osama to the class...

"Whomever designs the coolest jihadi logo for the Al Qaeda football jackets will get the highest number of virgins in paradise."

And all the graphic designers, sitting in that cave in Afghanistan, start working away over their Mac computers.

dx said...

that's some funny shit....!!!

"Because I am so amused by the visual."

Casper said...

KW
"instead of trying to distract the ref, huh?"

Explain how you know that Al Qaeda, the Base, is not culturally a name any Islamic organization would choose?? Since you gave a score and all..

Casper said...

II
"So tell me about those minutes of the terrorist meetings Casper"

"If you had a grasp of the Arabic language and culture, you would know that Al Qaeda, the Base, is not culturally a name any Islamic organization would choose."



Still Wwiting for you to expplain Qaeda al-Jihad??

Casper said...

dx
that's some funny shit....!!!

"Because I am so amused by the visual."


Maybe because you think all Islamics wear traditional sartorial hijab.. So other than that why is it so funny??

DMG said...

KonWomyn,

You madame, are in no positionn to referee. Because I'm not an Arabic speaker, I give II the courtesy exclusive knowledge about a subject. Courtesy that she demands, but has trouble showing anywone else. Don't take my pause as weakness or retracting my statements. Remember, I'm one of the few on here who likes to deal with facts and evidence, not heresay and rumor...strange you'd think I went to law school, like II.

And if you want to be a serious impartial referee, why don't you go back through the months, and point out to which arguments our host has one, and specific examples of how and why. You won't be able to, because pedestrian rhymes don't count as evidence.

dx said...

"all Islamics wear traditional sartorial hijab.. So other than that"

so YOU think THAT"S funny???

TELLING......

Casper said...

@dx
II said...
"Because I am so amused by the visual.
Man in beard and turban at the front of the cave - "

YOU THOUGHT THIS WAS FUNNY.. WHY??

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Still Wwiting for you to expplain Qaeda al-Jihad??

Look Tweedle Dee, I don't need to explain a name that was allegedly discovered in the non-existent, fictional minutes of a terrorist organization meeting. A meeting that only happened in the fertile imaginations of Tweedle Dees like yourself. ROFLMEAO!!!

The only place you will hear the words "the base" trumpeted endlessly is on Plantation media. Talking heads blather on whether Obama has alienated his "base" by escalating the war; are Republicans playing to their "base" when they oppose the healthcare plan. It is an AMERICAN term.

There is a great clip of GW in Fahrenheit 911 where he is addressing a group of people at a black tie function and says - "some people call you the elite. I call you my base."

And, I realize that you are very excited to demonstrate your ability to use the Control V paste function on your keyboard, but citing more fiction from Wikipedia isn't getting you anywhere.

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Man in beard and turban at the front of the cave - "

YOU THOUGHT THIS WAS FUNNY.. WHY??


Because it was. Can someone ask Mills to hire me the next time he works on a comedy show? :-)

Casper said...

@II
DMG said...
"Because I'm not an Arabic speaker, I give II the courtesy exclusive knowledge about a subject. Courtesy that she demands, but has trouble showing anywone else."

II said..
"If you had a grasp of the Arabic language and culture,"

"I speak mf'ing Arabic. My family speaks Arabic. My friends speak Arabic."

"I don't need to explain a name that was allegedly discovered in the non-existent"


OOOOH!.. I see.. Now you don't have shit to say!.. What happened to you're expertise/bragging on the subject??

Still Waiting for you to explain Qaeda al-Jihad??

Intellectual Insurgent said...

You're an idiot. Really.

Casper said...

II
"You're an idiot. Really."

I assume you are retracting your backing of that earlier non-sense.

Denmark Vesey said...

"I'm one of the few on here who likes to deal with facts and evidence, not heresay and rumor." Plantation MD

LOL.

You are also one of the few on here with monkey virus juice dripping out of their nose.

Where are the "facts" and "figures" that support the notion that this concoction of aluminum hydroxide, aluminum phosphate, ammonium sulfate, amphotericin B, animal tissues: (pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain, dog kidney, monkey kidney,, chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg, calf (bovine) serum, betapropiolactone, fetal bovine serum, formaldehyde, formalin, gelatin, glycerol, human diploid cells, (originating from human aborted fetal tissue), hydrolyzed gelatin, MSG (monosodium glutamate), Neomycin, Neomycin sulfate, Phenol red indidcator /
Phenoxyethanol (antifreeze) /, potassium diphosphate and monophosphate, Polymyxin B, Polysorbate 20 and 80, Porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein, Residual MRC5 proteins, Sorbitol sucrose, Thimerosal (mercury), tri(n)butylphospate, VERO cells (a continuous line of monkey kidney cells washed sheep red blood cells) invented by Baxter pharmaceuticals is safe for human consumption?

dx said...

"YOU THOUGHT THIS WAS FUNNY.. WHY??"

"Because it was. Can someone ask Mills to hire me the next time he works on a comedy show?" :-)

"You're an idiot. Really."

and that's funny too!!!

DMG said...

The only fact here is that you don't know what ANY of those things are. SAMDLMBAO (Sitting at my desk laughing my black ass off).

Seriously. You bring out the same bullshit, time and again. I figured if you are so creative with your rhymes you'd be able to make some moves on your argument about vaccines. But nothing..same old stuff.

But, hey wait, this thread's title is "Is President Obama's Surge A Trap?". You've already gotten us way off on a tangent once. You are doing nothing but ducking and dodging again...this time attempting a weak distraction your old standby... "SCARY VACCINES!!"

I gotta stop laughing so loud, my mans trying to dictate a case in the next office.

It's Friday, and since you are going to be lazy and recycle your weak lines I'll do the same, since I'm on my way out. I said it best a few days ago, so here it is again:

DMG:

"You are creative. You create a nice fantasy world, where you sit as leader of your own private fiefdom, dropping turds of twisted "wisdom" on those stupid enough to open their mouths like baby birds to swallow all of those festering half-truths and outright lies you defecate into their trusting throats."

"No sir, you are one dimensional, as you have the same retort for everything. You cannot fight with facts so you resort to lies, twisted logic, and your own definitions."

"But the fact still remains, you are rhymes and diversions. I am facts and solid arguments. You can't fuck with me, and it pisses you off. Guess your bloodline has failed you."

...oh, yeah. Qu'on leur coupe la tête. Putain

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Which begs the question yet again DMG, why do you keep messing with DV then?

For someone who must be quite busy, playing God to people who are dying of respiratory failure in the ICU, consoling the grieving widows and orphans of the swine flu "epidemic", reading all the medical studies that have ever been published so that you have knowledge of all the facts and solid evidence, being a good husband to your wife the Sista and raising your son, how do you find the time to come here and fight with people who you regard as stupid moron conspiracy theorists?

You are all up on every thread like you're getting a grade on it.

DV's father, a very wise man, once said that fighting is the flip side of phukkin'. And...well...it seems like you have a crush.

DMG said...

II,

Oh, I'm sorry, I hadn't realized that the entry fee to this here blog was diehard allegiance. Nobody told me this was a sychophants club.

Yeah, yeah, yeah...flip side of fuckin' whatever (like he coined the term), you can't seem to leave me alone...something you want to tell your man?

I'm here by myself, taking on all comers...without aid of yes men. MOTI uses you all as human shields for cover from questions he can't answer.

Where I come from that's kind of a bitch move, but if that's how Mr. Soft-hand-empty-head-thin-Italian-soles rolls, then who am I to judge.

Anonymous said...

IS THERE SUCH THING AS BLOG SUICIDE??

CAUSE DMG IN A WARM TUB WITH SLIT WRISTS

CAUSE NO ONE FEELING THIS BROTHER!!

KonWomyn said...

Intellectual Insurgent is truth!

The man was allegedly on his way home but he's still here! Why? On a Fri after allegedly working a 15 hour day?

You know in urban slang Moti means homie.

Que track: Never can say goodbye.

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Look Doc,

No one has allegiances and all that jazz. Puhleez on that pathetic bit of victimology. I realize it makes you feel good to frame this as a you against the deluded world paradigm, but get a grip. All of us have agreed and disagreed on something at some point and that's what keeps everyone coming back for more.

But you are playin' yourself with all this phony bitchy bellyaching about morons and conspiracy theorists. It's like a chick who swears her boyfriend is no good, but can't wait until he comes to pick her up on Friday night. You're embarassing yourself.

I like you Doc. I think you contribute a lot to these discussions and it wouldn't be nearly as much fun without you. But drop the antics and insults already. Because it's getting boring to read the same insult from you over and over.

makheru bradley said...

American politics is the science of deception, the art of delusion, and the language of hypocrisy.

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/743.html

“The father you spring from is the devil
And willingly you carry out his wishes.
He brought death to man from the beginning,
And has never based himself on truth;
The truth is not in him
Lying speech is his native tongue
He is a liar and the father of lies.” John 8:44

DMG said...

II,

Habibti. Please. You jump up and defend your man more often than you don't. Nobody is playing victim, I'm stating a fact. The majority of what you all are espousing are rumors and conspiracy theories--government conspiracy, vaccine conspiracy, education conspiracy...gets silly. Every once in awhile I get annoyed and don't bother for awhile. II, YOU can't even bring yourself to agree with me EVEN WHEN I'M DEFENDING YOUR POINT OF VIEW.

The problem with your request, is that you are asking me to fight "fair", while you all won't follow the same set of rules.

I start most posts (like my first post here) neutral, addressing the subject matter. Your problem isn't that I hurl insults...it's that I throw them hard. If you all would stick to the subject matter, there wouldn't be any need. You know...don't start nothing, there won't be nothing.

The only people playing themselves is you all. Most of the information necessary to see who's "won" an argument is in plain view. When presented, you all deny it.

If you are sick of the same insults...you need to talk to your man, not me. Check the record and see who repeats themself (hint: monkey virus juice, etc.).

Anyway, enjoy the day.