Friday, September 25, 2009
Global System of Black Supremacy - Thank God For Hip Hop - Jay-Z Schools Oprah - "Only Limit Is The Sky, They Give Ya Lemons? Then Ya Make Lemon Pie"
20 Years of Hip Hop has done more for black people than 60 years of Civil Rights. Quiet as it's kept, Oprah wouldn't be Oprah wasn't for Hip Hop. It was rappers who made Becky want to dance, now more than half her fans have had more than a brother or two in their pants. Before Barack Obama walked on stage in a pair of Florsheims, RUN DMC did their thing in a pair of Adidas. Hip Hop has emerged as one of the few places black people could take refuge from the persistent Plantation meme of perpetual victimization. Hip Hop scorned the lame lament of Ellison's "Invisible Man" and replaced it with the awesome anthem of Jigga's "Swagger Like Us". Rap replaced the passive pussy boy mantra of the UNCF's "not a handout, just a hand" with the proactive empowering masculine iconography of Tupac's "Me & My Girlfriend". Now, like a wise ambassador, Jay-Z pacifies the lames and squares with his complexity and oh so approachable humanity. LOL, look like even Oprah want to give the boy from Marcy some pussy. Hustle Hard.
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comparing tupac with jay.z?
today.s hip hop is the plantation.
wake up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQexa5GFlw4
inspiration can come from many things...hip hop has significantly touch millions positively with its provocative lyrics and lets not forget its vids...its what i've used many times to climb over, stoop under, go around the walls of the plantation...it breathes of self-respect, personal value and integrity.
i love it....!!!
too bad some artist dont take a page out of their own lyric book
Hip Hop is dead, DV. This inauthentic bullshit you so admire is just that: Inauthentic Bullshit.
..how could it be dead mike?? i listening to it right now...
You're listening to a stinking corpse saturated with cheap corporate perfume. Rebellious Black folk are moving on. The new black rebellious artistic expressionist movement is Afro-Punk. You ain't hip to that?
lol. Get 'em D.
Mike ... Plantation Negros hate Hip Hop because Hip Hop defies the myth of a "Global System of White Supremacy".
Mental slaves jealous of the mentally free.
While Plantation Negros walk around singing about what the black man can't do. Hip Hop sings there aint nothin' we can't do.
While Plantation Negros beg for a black coach.
Hip Hop buys the team. It's just a matter of time before cats start a competing league.
Plantation Negros whine because "Ralph Lauren doesn't use black models".
Hip Hop says fuck it. "I'm the new Ralph Lauren."
Plantation Negros cry about the word "Nigger" ... Hip Hop changes its meaning.
What's the matter Mike? You mad that a young black boy from Marcy Projects not only went further than you ever dreamed even with a Yale Law degree, but went past the Beatles?
Went past Bob Johnson?
Pimpin' Oprah?
Rubbing elbows with the POTUS?
Don't hate. Congratulate.
TRUTH!
@mike
HIP HOP FOREVER!!! its definitely been part of my liberation...truly the SKY is the mutherfuckn limit...aint no stoppn us now!!!
@mike
HEEELLLLLLL NAH!!
boss, you cant be serious..."afro punk" any genre with "punk" in it aint for me...that music is just a front for "black punk rock" PLANTATION...yo...that's some sick shit!!!
No self-respecting black man would listen to no shit like that...
sorry bra....aint happenin
Wow DV I knew "Invisible Man" was some propaganda since 10th grade and so is Toni Morrison's ass. It was intuition. My latent brilliance.
Feel me Ill?
"Invisible Man"?
Don't put that on black men. That's personal dude.
I wouldn't have felt invisible in 1850 in Charleston, SC.
dx ... you funny.
punk.
Aint that some shit?
Hip Hop aint dead. "Rebellious" for the sake of rebellious is dead.
Only thing really rebellious is flipping a kilo of cocaine.
Everything else is talk.
DV, you got about as much to do with Hip Hop as a mouse has to do with a lion. Your lack of understanding of the inner workings of the genre is glaring as well. Take it from someone who has been hands on involved in building Hip Hop from the jump when you were still sucking out your momma's breast milk. Hip Hop is dead.
DV...
"Only thing really rebellious is flipping a kilo of cocaine."
Ahhh... so your dream is being a drug dealer. Can't get any more Plantation Negro than that.
Don't sleep on the rock 'n' roll. Y'all heard that new Kyp Malone joint? BAM!
Pimp that!
DV...
"Marcy Projects..."
Ya'll Cali Soft-yogurt type negroes are funny, try'n to be so hard. You ever even been anywhere NEAR Marcy? If so, you more likely peeped at it from behind some Satmar Hassidics women's skirts across the street.
So Mike who really was the illest seeing as you think hip hop is dead?
Ill and DV hushup! Don't be dissing no Toni Morrisson and Ralph Ellison, when it comes to books their works are literary genius.
^Without a doubt Public Enemy and Body Count. After that it all went downhill.
Punk and Hip-Hop were both the bastard children of Rock.
Both attempted to make something out of almost nothing.
Like Shaq's daddy, Rock only came around when the two "lesser" genres became profitable.
But Hip-Hop ain't dead - it's (well... most commercial stuff) just cashing in by trying to appeal to a larger audience.
People have been saying Hip-Hop wouldn't last another 10 years since Run-DMC, but the shit just keeps evolving.
(Although I'm no fan of most of the current sing-song Southern crap. (All couplets - no flow, no story.))
Hip-Hop works with the basics (a beat and a rhyme) that can be produced with even the most primitive instuments.
^"Rock" is the bastard child of Real Rock. Namely black music. Rock is a black invention and the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin are nothing but Blues-Rock cover bands.
theodor adorno and the frankfurt school...
edward bernays and propaganda...
read on
''Only thing really rebellious is flipping a kilo of cocaine''
who are you flipping it for?
MF,
Public Enemy was when hiphop was rap. The technically accurate term is rap for that era - not so? If you said rap is dead; I'd say its evolved. When rap became hiphop it grew into a range of different types within itself and crossed over into different genres like Rock n R n B.
There's been such a powerful evolution since Public Enemy then both musically and culturally, hiphop is anything but dead. I wouldn't compare it Civil Rights Movement, but its been an instrumental force both good and bad.
Its fashionable to moan the death of hiphop, but the very cats who say that are still producing music long after the alleged death. Public Enemy are still making albums so I guess their music ain't dead either...
KonWomyn, how young are you? You gotta be no older than 30 saying stuff like that. Like DV, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Hip Hop was always a black/Boricuan cultural movement that had its roots in Jamaica andt encompassed graffiti art, dance (break), Djing, and almost as an afterthought, MCing (what became known as "Rap". Hip Hop didn't evolve out of Rap, Rap evolved out of Hip Hop. Today Hip Hop as an artistic black cultural movement is dead.
And yeah, PE is still making albums. But PE ain't Hip Hop all by themselves.
@mike
"Rap evolved out of Hip Hop. Today Hip Hop as an artistic black cultural movement is dead."
not sure bout that??!!
"The creation of the term hip hop is often credited to Keith Cowboy, a rapper with Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five... Though Lovebug Starski, Keith Cowboy, and DJ Hollywood used the term when the music was still known as disco rap, it is believed that Cowboy created the term while teasing a friend who had just joined the U.S. Army, by scat singing the words "hip/hop/hip/hop" in a way that mimicked the rhythmic cadence of marching soldiers. Cowboy later worked the "hip hop" cadence into a part of his stage performance, which was quickly copied by other artists; for example the opening of the song "Rapper's Delight" by The Sugarhill Gang. Former Black Spades gang member Afrika Bambaataa is credited with first using the term to describe the subculture that hip hop music belongs to, although it is also suggested that the term was originally derisively used against the new type of music. The first use of the term in print was in the Village Voice... by Steven Hager, later author of a 1984 history of hip hop"...
i've always understood disco rap being on the scene first..i remember tearing up my lp's tryn' to "scratch"...hip hop is the outgrowth of it...bigga and badda!!
still cant get with the "afro punk"...
peace bra
^i've always understood disco rap being on the scene first..
dx, they didn't have Discos in the Bronx parks. On the rap tip have you ever heard of Kool Herc?
The Furious Five came on the scene much later. Before that you had the Sugarhill Gang.
It is a shame that folks already have no idea whatsoever how Hip Hop got going.
LOL, Mike yea but I consider myself old! Also, I didn't grow up in The West don't know too much on it pre-Grandmaster Flash but thank ya for the edu-ma-ca-tion. But as a cultural movement I think its still has alot of relevance - as a global culture that young people identify with. In African hiphop, most MCs find their political awakening through the music - some go jiggy, but others keeps it real...
American HipHop's still relevant tho' as an accurate reflection of the plantation mindset today. And despite all the negativity hiphop produces and recieves at least for some young'uns they can aspire to being record producers or do some legit bizness.
...There's still The Roots, Mos Def, Nas n Talib still holdin' it down for consciousness...Afro-Punk is tres kewl tho'.
...peace
"they didn't have Discos in the Bronx parks"
i hear ya...was referring to the term and genre of the music (disco rap)...and no hadnt heard of kool herc...at least i cant recall...but i give credit where credit is due...
i still sayin' cant get with the "afro punk"
peace
wasn't hip-hop born out of rebels? I think the main essence of hip-hop is lost.
hip hop is more than a music genre...it IS an urban youth cultural movement...it's more than mere rhymes and beats...it has its own language, own dress code, etc..etc...rebels? maybe...but rebels with/without cause??
FREEDOM is what i see...of course always with responsibility.
That cant be lost
Konwoman I went to a predominately white school and we spent three fuckin' days discussing why the men in her book "took to calves". That chick is all about lament and loathing of Blackness. Same with Ellison. Invisible my ass. They see me before Im coming. Why do you think they are required high school literature in a lot of places?
As far as Afro punk is concerned, I have a band and our shit is Ghetto Metal. We have pretty much moved on from hip hop though. Although not dead it's definitely evolving. Can't hate on Afro punk cuz if ya do ur hatin' on urself..
Daddy abandons kid at age 11.
Kid starts slangin dope at 13
And becomes another menace to society.
Black culture in a nutshell..
Coming to a burb near you.
Nice history lesson Mike Fish - Felt like I was at the Swatch Fresh Fest.
20 Years of Hip Hop has done more for black people than 60 years of Civil Rights.-- DV
[Anecdotal evidence is often unscientific or pseudoscientific because various forms of cognitive bias may affect the collection or presentation of evidence.]--Wik
The cognitive bias of the presenter of this ludicrous Hip Hop claim is beyond question.
Twenty years of Hip Hop in its most virulent form which glorifies the thug or gangster lifestyle; self-destructive behavior; nihilism; passive acceptance of the oppressive state’s neo-slavery (racialized mass incarcerations), has done more for the White Supremacy Dynamic than they could have possibly hoped for after they suffered defeat at the hands of the Civil Rights Movement.
[By the late 1960s, “law and order” had become a surrogate expression for concern over the increasing demands of the civil rights movement…
Law and order’s resonance at once reflected the success of the civil rights movement and presaged its demise. The civil rights movement succeeded in establishing a national consensus against the naked espousal or enforcement of racial hierarchy. Yet it also generated broad opposition and anxiety among whites. With the moral triumph of the movement, such anxiety could no longer legitimately be expressed in openly racist terms. Quickly enough, however, white opposition to civil rights would be mobilized through the proxy language of crime, a coded vocabulary capable of marshalling racial fears without
violating newly dominant egalitarian norms. Legislatively, the 1964 Civil Rights Act provided a head-to-head contest, with civil rights advocates eventually overcoming determined opposition expressed forcefully in the language of crime control. After 1965, however, “[c]rime became an excuse for not expanding civil rights and social justice. Civil rights and crime were inversely related on [Congress’] agenda; as action on civil rights withered, criminal justice was expanded.”
When Richard Nixon ran for President in 1968, he rode this new rhetoric into the White House, for instance insisting on the campaign trail that the “solution to the crime problem is not the quadrupling of funds for any governmental war on poverty but more convictions.”] -- Ian F. Haney López
As the Prison-Industrial Complex was gearing up, along comes this virulent form of Hip-Hop, and plays right into the hands of the WSD. They couldn’t have dreamed of a more perfect scenario, or did they actually design it?
A 2009 Pew Center report shows that one in every 11 African Americans is in prison or on parole or probation, compared to one in 27 Latinos, and one in 45 whites.
And what is Hip Hop's response to this, constitutionally allowed, see the Thirteenth Amendment) neo-slavery?
Whereas “power concedes nothing without a demand” Hip Hop, unlike Civil Rights advocates, makes no demands and presents no direct challenges to this system of control, beyond their angry, though more often reactionary rhetoric.
They scream “fu_k the police,” while becoming grist for the prison mill. If they really wanted to “fu_k” the police and the prison-industrial complex they would put them out of business.
They are Rosa Parks in reverse, rushing to the back of the bus, patiently enduring their oppressive conditions.
They are the antithesis of Fred Hampton, gunning each other down in the streets; disproportionate responses to the most senseless trivia.
Whereas “each generation must of out relative obscurity, discover its mission, fulfill it or betray” Hip Hop demonstrates no sense of responsibility to deal with problems which primarily affects its adherents.
“20 Years of Hip Hop has done more for black people” only makes sense if you view the world upside down, where you see retrogression and you think its progress.
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