Big Man--what's the distinction? Sunstantive or semantics?
There's nothing relative about sin. Just because it takes on many forms, doesn't mean it's relative. Everything the Good Book says you shouldn't do is sin. Plain and simple. If you read it, then you know it and you're convicted by it--and that's when you recognize separation. If you don't read it, then your separated unaware--like a cheating spouse who never calls home to find out that the other spouse moved out two years ago.
i hear ya...however your definition is to those who adhere to that dogma...that's the distinction..and that's what makes it relative...if you need a book to teach you those things... have at it...but as the good book says..."do you have faith? have it to yourself before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he believes"
Honestly Mike I don't ... "know", as in knowledge.
But I am aware that God is speaking to me the same way I am aware of the truth when I encounter it, the sun when it hits the back of my neck and that my daughter is hiding behind the kitchen door attempting to surprise me.
I can just tell.
Now, Mike. Everybody doesn't have this ability.
In fact Radical Empiricists like you rarely commune with God. Your ability to do so seems to have atrophied.
@ DX- not sure your response is a rebuttal, was it meant to be? Can't logically quote the Bible, given its purpose, and then slam it all in the same statement. It's illogical, to say the least.
Oh yeah, and I'm not where your quote can be found, but I'm pretty sure it 's in the New Testament, refers to the Christian's redemption from the observance of rites mandated to Jews in the Old Testament--e.g., a Saturday Sabbath, animal sacrifice, and mandatory death for failure to observe the Sabbath. I'm certain, however, that it's not undercutting the notion of clear Biblical directives regarding what sin is.
of course i can quote the bible...everyone does...particularly those who believe its "GOD's Word"...faith in GOD is personal...and Rom 14:22 states that expressedly....it is not ABSOLUTE!!! it is relative to those who believe...it also says that...religion, spirituality...belief systems are all relative....there is no absolute on this plane of existance...religious folks dont seem to understand that...
you know what's funny...DV??? do you believe in the bible??? cause if you do...it's them same plantation crackas you're blasting...that wrote and published that shit!!
"the sun when it hits the back of my neck and that my daughter is hiding behind the kitchen door attempting to surprise me."
DV, first of if the Sun would hit the back of your neck, bit more than you neck would be broken. That's a big object there. Now if you mean the light emanating from the sun, you know that because you can see the light and thus you assume that the warmth generated by the sun light around you is indeed generated by the sun light. If your neck would warm up at night you wouldn't come to the conclusion that it was the sun.
If your daughter did a good job hiding then you wouldn't know that she is hiding. Thus you see and/or hear her when she is attempting that feat. You know what your daughter looks like from empirical observation over the years. You don't know what God looks like.
You don't see God. and even if you did, how would you know it is God?
Now, if God is not using words to speak to you, then God is not speaking to you.
seems to me religions first use was to convey an "explaination" of phenomenon observed by man...changes in this relative world...birth/death...natural forces of nature etc..the origins of man and his relation to the world....then religion was employed to gain support by the masses in the justification of the divinity of man...ie.."gods" the masses would look to these so called "gods" not just for explaination but also guidance with regard to their security and welfare....religion has also been used to formulate moral precepts...mainly to have political obedience....the we have the big one...religion used to justify WAR....
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u sound like a fundamentalist??
what's on your mind dv??
Sin is relative. Depends on where you're at in the world and / or who you are.
Your type of content DV (well except for the ending)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv7beQ9wHiM
:LOL:
Sin causes separation from God.
separation from what is higher, IS sin..., everything else is conversation
True indeed. It's hard to pray when you've got a lot of dirt on your brain.
if GDAWG is correct..."sin is relative" then it stands to reason that "GOD" is also relative according to DV's definition....so what say u DV?????
Big Man--what's the distinction? Sunstantive or semantics?
There's nothing relative about sin. Just because it takes on many forms, doesn't mean it's relative. Everything the Good Book says you shouldn't do is sin. Plain and simple. If you read it, then you know it and you're convicted by it--and that's when you recognize separation. If you don't read it, then your separated unaware--like a cheating spouse who never calls home to find out that the other spouse moved out two years ago.
i hear ya...however your definition is to those who adhere to that dogma...that's the distinction..and that's what makes it relative...if you need a book to teach you those things... have at it...but as the good book says..."do you have faith? have it to yourself before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he believes"
DV,
(a) does God ever speak to you?
(b) If God does not speak to you, how do you know that you are NOT separated from God?
(c) If God does speak to you how do you know it is God and not schizophrenia or
(d) Satan?
Well DV? Got answers?
Does God speak to you? Got a disembodied voice in your head? What? What is it?
Still avoiding the answer? Well, what is it DV? Does God speak to you?
Oh Hey Mike.
Didn't see this.
Does God speak to me?
Yes.
How do you know it is God that is speaking to you?
Honestly Mike I don't ... "know", as in knowledge.
But I am aware that God is speaking to me the same way I am aware of the truth when I encounter it, the sun when it hits the back of my neck and that my daughter is hiding behind the kitchen door attempting to surprise me.
I can just tell.
Now, Mike. Everybody doesn't have this ability.
In fact Radical Empiricists like you rarely commune with God. Your ability to do so seems to have atrophied.
@ DX- not sure your response is a rebuttal, was it meant to be? Can't logically quote the Bible, given its purpose, and then slam it all in the same statement. It's illogical, to say the least.
Oh yeah, and I'm not where your quote can be found, but I'm pretty sure it 's in the New Testament, refers to the Christian's redemption from the observance of rites mandated to Jews in the Old Testament--e.g., a Saturday Sabbath, animal sacrifice, and mandatory death for failure to observe the Sabbath. I'm certain, however, that it's not undercutting the notion of clear Biblical directives regarding what sin is.
@t.a.n man
of course i can quote the bible...everyone does...particularly those who believe its "GOD's Word"...faith in GOD is personal...and Rom 14:22 states that expressedly....it is not ABSOLUTE!!! it is relative to those who believe...it also says that...religion, spirituality...belief systems are all relative....there is no absolute on this plane of existance...religious folks dont seem to understand that...
@t.a.n. man
yeah i hear ya...the next text 23 takes the position that if faith is not initiated it is sin....
you know what's funny...DV??? do you believe in the bible??? cause if you do...it's them same plantation crackas you're blasting...that wrote and published that shit!!
holla!
DV...
"the sun when it hits the back of my neck and that my daughter is hiding behind the kitchen door attempting to surprise me."
DV, first of if the Sun would hit the back of your neck, bit more than you neck would be broken. That's a big object there. Now if you mean the light emanating from the sun, you know that because you can see the light and thus you assume that the warmth generated by the sun light around you is indeed generated by the sun light. If your neck would warm up at night you wouldn't come to the conclusion that it was the sun.
If your daughter did a good job hiding then you wouldn't know that she is hiding. Thus you see and/or hear her when she is attempting that feat. You know what your daughter looks like from empirical observation over the years. You don't know what God looks like.
You don't see God. and even if you did, how would you know it is God?
Now, if God is not using words to speak to you, then God is not speaking to you.
@dv,
seems to me religions first use was to convey an "explaination" of phenomenon observed by man...changes in this relative world...birth/death...natural forces of nature etc..the origins of man and his relation to the world....then religion was employed to gain support by the masses in the justification of the divinity of man...ie.."gods" the masses would look to these so called "gods" not just for explaination but also guidance with regard to their security and welfare....religion has also been used to formulate moral precepts...mainly to have political obedience....the we have the big one...religion used to justify WAR....
Michael Fisher is whack!
You don't see God?
Nigga, I see God everytime I look in the mirror and if you had any sense, you would too.
Furthermore, Michael Fisher,
"Now, if God is not using words to speak to you, then God is not speaking to you."
How can you determine how God communicates with someone else?
You're jealous of DV. It's obvious.
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