Monday, July 20, 2009

"Untrue Information" Spread By Denmark Vesey!

"I'm not attached to any particular meme. I'm engaged in a genuine search for the truth." Denmark Vesey
Undercover Black Man said...
Indeed, the Bush/Crowley meme has been spreaded on online forums such as Original Dissent, GoldIsMoney.info, AboveTopSecret.com and Unexplained Mysteries.

My question to you, Denmark, is why spread untrue information? Do you think it’s fun?

Wouldn’t you rather spread reliable information instead?

Denmark Vesey said ...
Thank you for the information UBM. My apologies for the delay.

Yes, the "Joseph Cannon said he made it up story", is an interesting theory.

Indeed, the Joseph Cannon made it up meme has been spread on online forums such as Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, The O'Reilly Factor, The New York Times and by your employer The Washington Post.

Is Aleister Crowley Barbara Bush's baby daddy? 1) I don't know. 2) I never said he was. 3) He certainly looks like it. 4) Based on George Bush's statements about his involvement in secret societies and the well documented occult nature of these secret societies, I wouldn't be surprised.

Why did I post the story? 1) It's an amusing idea. 2) Plantation Negros need to know who Aleister Crowley is in order to recognize occult memes disguised as secular liberties.

My question to you, Denmark, is why spread untrue information?

That's a hilarious question coming from a man employed by the Washington Post. UB, did you ever ask that question of your boss? Why do you hold this blog to a greater standard of "truth" than you hold the media companies without whom you couldn't eat whatever it is that makes you proudly 50lbs overweight?

I'll tell you why: You have been conditioned to reject ideas not generated by your plantation benefactor.

The plantation media, including your employer The Washington Post "spreads Untrue Information" about vaccines, pharmaceutical drugs, war, prisons, food, the environment and the economy every day. Please link us to anything you have written challenging The Washington Post or Time Warner's commitment to the truth, as vociferously as you have challenged DenmarkVesey.Net

20 comments:

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Mills' inquiry would be best directed to those who truly spread disinformation for fun - the NYT, News Corp., etc.

What ever happened to all those WMD's? Oh yeah, they got moved somewhere.

Where's Osama? Oh yeah, the dude who managed to plan the most sophisticated terrorist attack in history from a remote cave in Afghanistan while receiving dialysis has managed to flee the world's most technologically advanced army in one of the least geographically hospitable regions in the world - while carrying video-making equipment, cell phones, 1 billion dollars and dialysis equipment on his back.

Undercover Black Man said...

Well, in this case, Insurgent, I was expressly invited by DV to "falsify" what he'd posted.

Submariner said...

DV is a propagandist unconcerned with verifiable history and tangible facts. What incites him is that agents advocating an opposing worldview are far more effective in their campaigning than he is in his. In this respect he is similar to a CBS programming executive in the 1980s desperately lagging behind the competition.

Denmark Vesey said...

"DV is a propagandist unconcerned with verifiable history and tangible facts." Submariner

LOL. That's pretty funny Sub.

Coming from a cat about to write a prescription for "Shaky Leg Syndrome" and toss his boys a couple of packs of Cialis samples.

Submariner said...

Again you're showing careless disregard for facts. I've never prescribed anything of the sort.

CNu said...

What incites him is that agents advocating an opposing worldview are far more effective in their campaigning than he is in his.

More effective in their campaigning, or, just better capitalized and more institutionally ubiquitous?

Submariner said...

To tell you the truth I think that's only temporary. A fair appraisal would show that on the issues DV is much more aligned with the Ron Paul/Sara Palin/Clarence Thomas brand of conservatism than Barack Obama's centrist approach much less left-wing liberal-socialism. In the aftermath of Michael Steele's faulty stewardship, I would not be surprised that a more discerning organization promoting conservative theocracy would support Denmark Vesey. The hip hop sentimentality and recent adoration of Michael Jackson aside, Denmark Vesey is not interested in developing a broad social movement to respond to social problems.

CNu said...

Sub, Denmark Vesey advocates on behalf of ganja. Isn't that rather stridently orthogonal to the socially conservative agenda you've noted?

submariner said...

Not necessarily if you consider the libertarian ethos as exampled by Ron Paul.

Undercover Black Man said...

Why do you hold this blog to a greater standard of "truth" than you hold the media companies...

Because your game is so fucking weak, that's why.

It usually only takes me 15 minutes to deconstruct your horseshit.

The sad thing is... you don't seem the least bit embarrassed to have swallowed an April Fool's joke as reality.

CNu said...

you need to be shot with hot pee talkin bout DV the way you dropped a pussilanimous propaganda pantload over at the House of Love this week....,

Undercover Black Man said...

^ Only difference being, Craig, that everything I wrote was true and made sense.

CNu said...

kneegrow puh-leeze....,

I know President Obama wants this to be his signature achievement. But he hasn’t yet persuaded me that America needs to radically overhaul its health-care system.

I’m willing to bet reform won’t happen. Maybe it shouldn’t happen.

The people pushing hardest for it are leftists who embrace the ideology of government control of markets (not to mention “soaking the rich”). Leftists such as the folks at MoveOn.org and the Huffington Post class warrior Jason Linkins.


only if you've got a REALLY distorted conception of sensible and true - one which begins with politically partisan spinning and assiduously works to avoid engagement with facts, figures, and other quantifiable measures of performance, outcomes, costs, and benefits.

I'm not going to belabor any of this, because your propagandizing is on a par with Michael "chicken and potato salad" Steele's.

Why is kneegrow conservatism so congenitally incompatible with science, logic, data - as well as - art, panache, swagger?

Undercover Black Man said...

You ain't brought a damn thing to the table in terms of "quantifiable measures of performance, outcomes, costs, and benefits," Craig.

Neither has Obama, for that matter.

My analysis of the politics and ideologies at play in this debate are crystalline. And it explains why Obama is swingin' and missin' on health care.

CNu said...

The comments thread speaks for itself dood. Your politics and ideology is indeed crystal clear, though entirely inexplicable in the light of any factual understanding of what goes on in the healthcare industry.

DMG has acquitted himself beyond reproach as a subject matter expert and here's what he just now had to say to you;

Mills, we are paying for this now anyway. The disconnect that the accountants have is that the more uninsured the more REALLY sick people we will have. People with really good insurance are able to get their illness taken care of sooner rather than later. With some diseases, the longer one waits the worse (and more expensive) it gets. Overhead for private insurance companies hovers around 19%, whereas Medicare overhead is closer to 4%. A government plan doesn't have to pay bonuses to CEO's or MD's in their employ who deny claims. Alot of medical billers may be out of work (possibly even my wife's small company) if we get a good public option, but so be it. People excluded from private insurance for pre-existing conditions who can't afford a huge premium will go without care...and that's not good for patient or taxpayer.

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

UBM: I agree with your sentiments. Obama care might come from a sweet place, but it is impractical on many levels. And if you look at the history of medical care in this country, insurance companies started because doctors were charging too much, like the $8K per HOUR anesthesiologist that did my c-section. That is wayy tooo much money and is out of whack with our economy.

Submariner said...

DMG do you think that being black physicians influences how we see this issue? Because the NMA endorses a public option.

Denmark Vesey said...

(school bell)

ringggggggg
ringggggggg
ringggggggg

Class is in session.

Have your seats.

Hello Mahndisa.
Submariner, hold your questions to the end.
UBM. Put away the hot dog and sit your ass down.

OK.

Listen up.

Conservative. Liberal. Leftists. Are all the fucking same thing. Different sides of the same coin.

"National Health Care" is a euphemism. The term is pure propaganda. Secular religious nonsense promising eternal life. Doctors are low level priests engaged in the business of distributing pharmaceutical sacrements to an increasingly drug addicted herd."

National Health Care. Is A Vehicle. Designed. To Distribute Drugs. To A Population of People Suffering From The Planned Obsolescence of Programmed Disease.

It's paying the insurance companies in advance with taxpayer money for the drugs your doctor is trained to distribute on behalf of the pharmaceutical conglomerates.

It's like the government taking money out of your paycheck, to give it directly to cocaine dealers so all you have to do is go pay a small deductible for your crack.

DMG said...

Sub,

Hmmm. I can't really say. Because I have colleagues on both sides of the debate, black, white, asian etc. I can only speak for me, rather than from a black physician perspective. I see private practice gallbladders, and I see county hospital gallbladders for example. Guess which ones make me want to grab a chisel and hammer to extract...

I'm a single payer kind of guy myself. But, I know reimbursement rates need to be revamped, and incentives to practice "quantity" rather than quality care needs to be addressed. Don't like your medical bill? Spend a day in your neighborhood medical billing office and watch Blue Cross Blue Shield deny claim after claim...and offer pennies on the dollar as reimbursement, while doling out massive bonuses to their CEO. We have a problem in this country of fearing socialized medicine. My colleagues abroad aren't wasting their time worrying about if their patients can afford a treatment, or spending extra hours away from patient care dealing with reimbursement issues. We have a horribly wasteful system. I haven't read all of the details of the current Health Reform bill, but from what I've gathered so far, it doesn't go far enough to reign in the private insurance industry.

Herregud MOTI!!! Do you ever give it a rest?

Submariner said...

DV after you take of someone then you can address me.