Constructive Feedback said...
DENMARK VESEY - I DON'T GET YOU MAN!!!!"Ms Officer" is an ANTI-AUTHORITY song. Literally "Fuck The Police".
He gets a female who has taken the oath as a police officer to call off her shift so HE can turn her back into just a female once again and "d_ck her down".He respects her BOOTY rather than her BADGE!!
Denmark Vesey said ...
Anti-Authority?
Anti-Authority?
Come bruh.
As opposed to what? Pro-Authority?
What does that look like?
If Bob Dillan wrote "Mrs. Officer" you'd be in your draws right now lip-synching it on Guitar Hero.
Why would you expect the victims of a for-profit justice system to be anything but anti-authority?
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That's what I like about you DV - I know that if I rattle you - I might get featured in one of your posts.
With that said - Lil' Wayne IS NOT ABOVE ME.
This AIN'T ABOUT ME!!! PUNK!
Oh on "The View" he talked about being an "A" student and how his momma kept him in school. He went back and got his high school diploma and is now taking college courses on line because the attention on campus was too distracting.
BUT WAIT DV.
He said that he uses GOD as his guide.
I asked "WHAT 'GOD' is guiding this man" when I heard him say this.
See Here: http://withintheblackcommunity.blogspot.com/2009/05/lil-wayne-leader-by-example-guided-by.html
Here is your problem DV.
You point to a system that has 1M Black people locked up.
You ARE NOT ABLE TO point to the 2 million VICTIMS who are out there having been RAPED, MURDERED, ASSAULTED, had their property stolen......
Oh yeah - since KCnulan reads this blog - has the feng shui of their community DESTROYED by the DRUGS that they push into this domain confiscate the consciousness of the masses.
Lil Wayne and most of these other Hip Hop Artists ARE NOT DOING THIS FOR YOU or their COMMUNITY!!!
They are trying to get the authorities to back off of THEM so that they might
* Smoke weed on their tour bus as they please
* Have a piece of ass without fear of push back by our moral strictures
* Say what they damned well please without facing repercussions about those that follow them - Life imitating Art
Lil Wayne IS NOT THE BASIS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW SOCIETY.
I will allow YOU to sit back and image a society these He and Baby had to set up a new
* Judicial System
* Economic Distribution System
* Civil Rights System
* Academic System
Feedback, Feedback ... I don't know where to start.
ahhhhhh me. um. um. um.
Let me hit you wit an easy one Festas.
More black people will die of obesity related diseases ... THIS YEAR ... than have died from ingesting street drugs in the past 50 years combined.
1) Do you harbor as much scorn for the shareholders and board members of Monsanto and ADM (manufacturers of genetically modified high fructose corn sugar aka Instant Diabetes), as you do for the retailers of marijuana and cocaine?
2) Medical reports say that over 100,000 Americans are killed each year because of adverse reactions to "prescription" durgs. (that's more than 30 WTC attacks)
How are the CEO's of Big Pharmaceutical companies like Miles White of Abbot who earned $33.4 Million and Richard Clark of Merk who earned $14.5 Million morally or ethically superior to Jay-Z, or Birdman?
3) The rate of incarceration of young black men has outpaced the amount of crime committed by young black men for years. What does that tell you?
4) Does it really surprise you that young men from the streets of New Orleans don't grow up wanting to become complicit conformists and corporate drones doomed to a life of lay-offs and perceived glass ceilings?
5) Why is it cool when James Bond sports a gun and shoots the bad guy and such a fucking horror when Curtis Jackson sports a gun and shots the bad guy?
6) Why is it sexy when Desperate Housewives broadcasts their version of "Fuck da Police" and an affront to women when D'Wayne Carter releases his version?
never mind ... we already know:
"OOOOHHHHH MASSSA!!! OOOHHHHH MASSSA!! WHO LIL WAYNE DINK HE IZ?!! MAYKIN MOOOOVIES BOUT FUGGIN DA POWLICE!!!! GET 'EM MASSA! LOCK HIS AZZZZ UP!! HE CAYN'T DO WHUT YOU DO!! WAYNE DINK HE WHITE MASSA!!"
You are hurting me deeply with your rationalizations DV - inside that is.
[quote]More black people will die of obesity related diseases ... THIS YEAR ... than have died from ingesting street drugs in the past 50 years combined[/quote]
You don't offer ARGUMENTS!
You offer DIVERSIONS!!!
I have NEVER seen a Black person who was strung out on a "sugar high" that was motivated by eating a box of Twinkies - go and kill another Black man because the offending High Fructose Corn Syrup numbed his sensitivities to the lives that he was taking.
LEGAL OR ILLEGAL - the NUMBED SENSIBILITIES will remain after the consumption of these hard drugs. Right KCnulan?
[quote]Feedback, Feedback ... I don't know where to start.
ahhhhhh me. um. um. um.
Let me hit you wit an easy one Festas.
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It is critical that I execute target practice on each and every one of the "skeets" that you have thrown up in the air.
[quote]
1) Do you harbor as much scorn for the shareholders and board members of Monsanto and ADM (manufacturers of genetically modified high fructose corn sugar aka Instant Diabetes), as you do for the retailers of marijuana and cocaine?[/quote]
No - because they are White males running these companies and thus are my masters.
OR
It seems that you are mixing two subjects. GM corn and the issue of High Fructose corn syrup in an increasing amount of our processed foods are two different issues.
I have taught MY CHILDREN to look at the SUGAR CONTENT in their food and drinks. We purchase fruit juice with low "g's" of sugar.
I support LABELING, thus allowing people to be conscious about what they are eating. Allowing the people to make their own choices.
I fail to see how I should look past a "weekend of carnage" (a Black male's bullet riddled body was thrown out of a car on Sunday) and instead focus on people who are eating unhealthy and dying over time. Which one will make for a Hollywood Movie and a Protest March against violent death?
[quote]2) Medical reports say that over 100,000 Americans are killed each year because of adverse reactions to "prescription" durgs. (that's more than 30 WTC attacks)How are the CEO's of Big Pharmaceutical companies like Miles White of Abbot who earned $33.4 Million and Richard Clark of Merk who earned $14.5 Million morally or ethically superior to Jay-Z, or Birdman?[/quote]
DV - you are "easier" than a college aged girl with a reputation.
You can be SMOKED OUT OF YOUR POSITION by the action of a proposal by CONSERVATIVES to CUT GOVERNMENT FUNDING FOR PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.......because TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE DYING FROM THEM!!! These conservatives say "We agree with DV and will no longer be apart of this ASSISTED SUICIDE. If the people want to kill themselves with pharmaceutical drugs it will not be with government money.
You will be on board with the conservatives with this one. Right DV? Doesn't this capture your argument? Sorry - diversion?
[quote]3) The rate of incarceration of young black men has outpaced the amount of crime committed by young black men for years. What does that tell you?[/quote]
It tells me that THE FORCE UNDER WHICH these young Black Males are being INDOCTRINATED INTO THIS WORLD IS FUCKED UP!!!
What ever assumptions that are going into their development - MUST BE CHALLENGED AND CHANGED.
"The Hand that is rocking their cradle" is INJURING THEM!!
They are leaving a long trail of "Black People Crying" from their murderous assaults upon their own community.
The police forces, which are now commanded more than ever with people who are FAVORABLE TO BLACK PEOPLE - per the election results - have been prodded to "DO SOMETHING" about the mayhem in these communities.
Or have you not watched my documentary series on the sad truth of Domestic Piracy?
http://withintheblackcommunity.blogspot.com/2009/05/my-effort-at-tracking-domestic-piracy.html
[quote]4) Does it really surprise you that young men from the streets of New Orleans don't grow up wanting to become complicit conformists and corporate drones doomed to a life of lay-offs and perceived glass ceilings?[/quote]
DV - I have SEVERAL points of research about New Orleans. Go rent the DVD "New Orleans Murder City: Home Of Little Wayne and Birdman". The outlook by these same BLACK MALES is that they are living as if they will not see the AGE OF 30. Sadly there are many of their antagonists who assist them with this effort.
DV - you are motivating me to do a post comparing your 'Anti-Conformity" drive against the DEADLY EFFECTS of "Permanent Rebellion".
The main criticism that I have with you is that once "I Don't Give A Fuck" takes over and displaces CONFORMITY you and others don't have a plan for:
* Policing
* Education
* Employment
* Free Speech
You are a function of your opposition of the force at hand rather than any notation of an ORGANIC REPLACEMENT.
You do agree that a police function will be needed once you and Lil Wayne become Mayor and City Council Head - right?
[quote]
5) Why is it cool when James Bond sports a gun and shoots the bad guy and such a fucking horror when Curtis Jackson sports a gun and shots the bad guy?[/quote]
The character James Bond is WHITE!
He is allowed to shoot people.
I rarely see a protest by Black people when a White man shoots another White man.
I rarely see a protest by Black people when a Black man shoots another Black man.
I rarely see a protest by Black people when a Black man shoots a White man. (Typically it is a COUNTER PROTEST against the protesting Whites)
I frequently see a protest by Black people when a White man shoots a Black man.
Maybe we need to do a film "James Bond Battles The 30 Deep Gang" and then we will get this type of violence out of the movies?
[quote]
6) Why is it sexy when Desperate Housewives broadcasts their version of "Fuck da Police" and an affront to women when D'Wayne Carter releases his version[/quote]
Because I lust after Tony Parker's wife - because she is White.
Thus when she beds a police man - she shows the complicity of this "Global System of White Supremacy" that you speak of. The goal of it is to confine the Black Man's penis, disrupting the threat that it represents. Keep it away from shooting reproductive cells into the womb of a White woman and instead place it into a prison cell where it can instead be injected into another man's anal orifice and thus REPRODUCE NOTHING!!!
(How's that for ya?)
YOUCH!!!!
festas feedback done slapped all the sass clean out of denmark vesey's mouth!!!
Feedback you lost me.
My pops says fightin' is the flip side of fuckin'.
No Homo.
So let's try to cut this thing short.
I've read what you write. I've listened to Lil Wayne.
You not in his league dude. He's better educated and more talented. His insight into human nature is keen. His understanding of this system and culture is beyond your anachronistic Civil Rights 2.0 world view.
Your inability to connect the dots of the video speaks volumes.
Your bootstrap notions of "conservative" v "liberal" are pedantic and pedestrian.
The opposite of conformity is not rebellion. It's courage.
Your notion that black Americans could empower themselves by demonstrating more reverence for "authority" is beyond absurd.
You can post little self-congratulatory pats on the back disguised as "Anonymous" all you want. Don't make no difference.
Denmark Vesey is school for you.
Dammit. I came in here with hopes of adding something to this conversation, since I started talking about similar issues in October 2007.
Then Denmark goes and says:
My pops says fightin' is the flip side of fuckin'.
No Homo.... and my funny bone exploded. LOL!
I swear I'll try again another time, probably with quote from Derrick Jensen in hand.
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Hawa, author of Fackin Truth Blog and Cleanse Master Remix
Meh.
Wayne ain't a role model.
But, he ain't the Anti-Christ either.
He has talent, which from following his career for more than a decade I think he's wasted a bit. I think he could talk a little more about some deeper stuff than women, drugs and money, but he is entertaining at times.
I think Constructive is funny getting mad about the words of a hip hop artist and their effect on the black community, but then saying that it's not about CEOs and sugar.
Why should black folks get mad at young black dudes hurting them communities and not get made at rich white men.
We should either get mad at both of them, or get made at none of them.
[quote]Why should black folks get mad at young black dudes hurting them communities and not get made at rich white men.[/quote]
Big Man - I have to yield and agree with you.
While I know of no "Domestic Pirate" who has committed a drive by shooting which killed a Black person and then got stopped only to have the police find a stack of Rush Limbaugh recordings.........
I do have to admit that where as last week I was saying that it is very likely that the police might find a stack of Hip Hop CDs, including Lil Wayne during this stop........I will yield to you and admit that the cops are very likely to find a pack of Twinkies made with Partially Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil AND a bottle of Coke made with high fructose corn syrup.
Please accept my apologies.
Those damned Consumer Packaged Goods Executives!!!
I hope that you'll join me in asking all of the Black executives in these consumer foods companies to resign their positions out of a point of consciousness in regard to what their companies are doing to Black people.
Constructive Feedback: "it is very likely that the police might find a stack of Hip Hop CDs, including Lil Wayne during this stop......"
Li'l Wayne's album went platinum and he's arguably the most popular rapper right now. So wouldn't you be just as likely to find his album in the college dorm room of a young man, black or white?
What up Hawa! lol. I feel ya. Come on back with that Derrick Jensen when you can.
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The Gentle Big Man!
How you?
"He has talent, which from following his career for more than a decade I think he's wasted a bit." BM
Wasted talent? Nahhhhhhh
One doesn't measure a poet's art by conducting an inventory of his words.
One measures the impact and meaning of his words. Do people feel Lil Wayne's art?
Well, name A Poet More Widely Felt Than Lil Wayne: _________________ ?
"I think he could talk a little more about some deeper stuff than women, drugs and money, but he is entertaining at times."
Was Mario Puzo writing "about" guns, drugs, racketeering and murder when he wrote The Godfather?
Or was he using those words as a tool to make a larger statement?
un huh.
I see ...
Maaaaaaario Puuuuuuuuzo is granted artistic license.
The witch who wrote Harry Potter can dabble in sorcery and it's all good.
Why can't D'wayne Caaaaaaaaaarter borrow the imagery of sex and violence to make a larger statement?
Feel me Big Man?
That's why I'm disappointed in Feedback and Plantation Negros in general reluctant to grant artistic license to our young artists attempting to dramatize their experiences and perspectives.
The assumption is "dem niggas can't be making a statement!"
Plantation Negros are bigger racists than Byrdeye.
Art is what makes us human.
Denying our artists denies our humanity.
The same Negros accusing black rappers of glorifying violence will drop their own kids off at X Men movies and read them Satanic bedtime stories packaged as Harry Potter novels.
George W. Bush allowed this nation to be tricked into a war not in it's interest.
5,000 Dead American soldiers
1,000,000 Dead Iraqi people
$Trillions of dollars spent on bombs and guns and corporate profits.
0 WMD's
George W. Bush aint never bought a rap CD in his life.
Should we blame John Wayne for glorifying violence when GW was a little boy?
Denmark
I have been following Wayne since Tru Stories (google that) so I'm well aware of what he talks about.
My point was that homebody is intelligent. He used to attend magnet school in New Orleans before he hooked up with Baby and them. He can talk about sex, violence and drugs, but he can also talk more about poverty, about better yourself about improving the world.
His mindless devotion to the gods of money and pleasure is disturbing and disappointing considering his potential to discuss so much more.
I did not say he was a bad person, or that he HAS to change. However, I will not deny that I feel he has squandered some of his gifts. It's the same way I feel about my favorite basketball player, Allen Iverson.
To whom much is given, much is required.
[quote]So wouldn't you be just as likely to find his album in the college dorm room of a young man, black or white?[/quote]
Pink - please afford me the opportunity to THROW BACK the logical gymnastics that are used frequently within the Black and Hip Hop community.
YOU and others attempt to argue: "See - look at all of the consumers of this content that you find offensive and look at all of them who are successful or well balanced (or White) who have not been prompted like zombies to KILL"...therefore it is NOT the content but something else.
Upon hearing this, Pink, I pull out my archives of Black media material and make note of WHOM the build of the critical attention is being focused upon versus "Who is making Black People Cry Today" (the name of a long running documentary series on my blog).
I hear "Rush Limbaugh" and the Republicans ATTACKED in these channels most frequently.
Thus Pink - I must also argue that "Despite the heaping amount of angst being hurled upon Rush Limbaugh - THE PEOPLE WHO ARE KILLING BLACKS IN THE GREATEST ABUNDANCE - are not found with Rush Limbaugh recordings in their cars.
Let's do it diagrammatically.
Lets draw 3 circles.
One is labeled "Dead Black People".
Let's draw another circle that intersects that first circle in proportion of "The Number of Rush Limbaugh Listeners Who Have KILLED BLACK PEOPLE".
Let's draw another circle which also intersects that first circle. This time the area that it shares in common with our first circle represents "The number of people who are 'DOWN WITH HIP HOP' that have killed Black people.
Pink - if you were to take a guess - WHICH area between circle 1 & 2 and then between 1 & 3 would be a LARGER AREA?
You see Pink - while indeed the area of "Hip Hop Listeners who have NOT KILLED BLACK PEOPLE" might indeed be very, very, large (as I am happy that it is)........our area of focus NEEDS TO BE upon the size of the entire circle #1.
Most of the messages received by the Black community is focused upon the THREAT ("Racist Scare Crows") as represented by the intersection of circle #2.
THE FOCUS NEEDS TO BE proportionally distributed over to that unacceptably large area that forms the intersection between #1 and #3.
Failing to do so indicates, to me at least, the presence of "Non-White White Supremacy" where the actions of the White man are deemed more DEADLY, more INJURIOUS and more TERRORIZING than the same acts as executed by a Black man.
I am ironically asking for the Black man to be treated EQUALLY.....but asking BLACK FOLKS to do the "equalization".
"His mindless devotion to the gods of money and pleasure is disturbing and disappointing considering his potential to discuss so much more." BM
Au. Contrare. Mon. Frere.
Wayne's devotion to the gods of money and pleasure ARE AN EXACT REFLECTION of the general population's devotion to money and pleasure.
He is a mirror of our sub-prime SUV driving obese diabetic selves.
Some of us don't like what we see and want to blame and crucify the messenger. (peep the pattern)
If 10% of the black population could "squander" their talent the way Lil Wayne and Allen Iverson have, we'd be the most powerful people on the planet.
Constructive Feedback.
1) Draw a VERY BIG CIRCLE. Label it circle "a".
2) Draw a very small circle. Label it circle "b".
3) Write "Blacks killed by other blacks" in one circle.
4) Write "Blacks killed by the plantation" in its appropriate circle.
Think about it now ...
Think about the ways to kill a person.
Be honest now CF.
I know you like to argue ... but be honest.
Now repeat after me: "Fuck Da Powlice".
Thank you. Feel better?
DV - Here are two points of information for you to help you out.
1) The graphic that I spoke of: http://withintheblackcommunity.blogspot.com/2009/05/destroying-racist-scare-crows-and.html
2) The VALUE of the "enslaved African" to his owner's profit motive - even though this is a slightly comedic view of it:
http://www.viddler.com/explore/ConstructiveFee/videos/52/
Far more of our ancestors died in the trip over TO 'The New World' than were killed on the "Plantation" in the United States. I do acknowledge that the evil White folks in South America did not have the same plan for Black people. They did allow them to die from being 'worked to death' as they simply imported more.
Think of the irony of it though DV. You have resorted to REFRACTING the argument about the number of Blacks being murdered TODAY as we have laws that keep many WHITE FOLKS who will to kill us from doing so by pointing back to the Black folks killed on the Plantation? Is this all that you've got?
DV
I'm trying to figure out where you stand.
I've gathered from your postings that you're not a fan of drug use, random violence or promiscuity.
Yet you're a fan of Wayne.
Now, I'm not a fan of any of those things either, and I like Wayne a little as well, mainly because he can be entertaining.
But, at the end of the day, I understand that just because what he's saying is a reflection of what's actually happening doesn't mean it's something that needs to be glorified.
See, I think humans need to focus on what they could become, not just what they are. The whole faith think is a constant refining process to achieve some small sliver of perfection in life.
When I see cats blessed with crazy talent who seem unwilling to truly sacrifice to maximize that talent, I feel sorry for them and the heights they could have achieved.
I'm not saying
Wayne and Iverson haven't accomplished a lot, just saying that I would have loved to have seen what they could have accomplished if they'd taken a slightly different path.
Big man done frosted a big old plantation negrological turd and tried to serve it up just like it was a cake....,
Anonymous
I'd love to hear why you think so.
DV
Didn't your post this a little further down the page?
That's the reason for our increasing adolescent obsession with sex and nudity characteristic of arrested development.
It's the reason why vulgarity and debauchery are presented as "daring;" why music videos and movies resemble sex orgies and satanic bacchanalia. The media is initiating an unsuspecting public into the occult. Many entertainers belong to satanic societies. We are being subverted; degraded to the level of dogs sniffing genitals.
They abolished God in order to control us. Without that reference point, we are defenceless and gullible. We accept false Gods: money, sex, experts and entertainers. The media manipulates us. The movies define our social norms. I gotta think this cat would have a problem with Wayne. And since you seemed to be cosigning his point of view earlier, where exactly do you stand on this?
OH SCHNAPP!!!!!
Big Man done busted out Denmark Vesey like a two dolla trickbaby playing the rainbow game!!!
Let me see if I can address your concerns Big Man. But let me go move my wife's tomato plants like I promised.
Be back.
OK. To keep it short.
I hear and feel as much God in Lil Wayne, Biggie & Tupac as I do in Rev. Wright, TD Jakes and Rev. Lowry.
The bible talks "about" sex, and swords, and killing, and infanticide and all kinds of harsh realities.
Why?
They are symbols, used to assist in the attempt to experience and appreciate God.
Is Desperate Housewives an attempt to experience God? No. It's purely Satanic.
What Feed doesn't understand is that "Ms. Officer" is a contemporary version of The Song of Solomon.
... (I'm going to have to start chargin' ya'll cats for all these Jewels)
DV
You are going to have be a little more specific than that.
I don't think Wayne is worshipping Satan anymore than I think Quentin Taratino is.
But, I do think that they both promote some violent and raunchy imagery that I limit my consumption of.
Wayne is unapologetic about being a serial fornicator, marijuana user and violent person. It's his life, but his unwillingness to see anything wrong with his behavior makes it difficult for me to praise him too much.
David killed Urriah to hide the fact that he had been boning his wife. But, at least when Nathan pulled his coat to let him know he was wrong, David straightened up.
I don't hate people who sin, but you gotta admit that what you're doing is wrong and then try to change.
At least that's my philosophy.
I love you brother DV!!!
(No Homo)
It was great to read that dialogue from two years ago.
Let me ask you about the picture of the police man on the front page though.
Are the POLICE the only "authority" within the Black community?
Will there always be the need for a "Police Function" within our community?
You are acting like a "chick with baggage". She had two brothers dog her out in past relationships that she can fully document. From this she makes the inference that male partners are bad news - look at the results. I don't need a man!!
How many positive interactions with Police do our people have that go unreported?
* The first responder who gives grandma CPR
* The man with the firearm that shows up on the scene to help the lady change her tire on the side of the road?
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