(Blame Bush or Blame Obama, but notice how few Plantation Sanctioned Speakers are blaming the Madoff's, the Greenspan's or the Perle's.)
JR-Ryder said...
Question Deezy Veezy why is a GSWS not allowed to exist but a JSS is?White power = meh, not so much
Jew power = no doubt
I'm truly curious. Thx
Denmark Vesey said ...
JR the global system of supremacy is no more "Jewish" than it is "white". Both labels are intentionally misleading.The Madoff's, the Greenspan's and the Perle's no more represent Jews than Bush represents Christ.
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Duly noted my friend. Duly noted.
Question Deezy Veezy why is a GSWS not allowed to exist but a JSS is?
White power = meh, not so much
Jew power = no doubt
I'm truly curious. Thx
02 24 09
Alan Keyes is truly interesting. On life issues, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH HIM!!! No. I don't agree with the neocon foreign policy stances he takes, but some of his points are well taken. I honestly feel that the whole abortion thing is a conspiracy to cheapen human life and find Obamas stances unconscionable.
And yes, there is certainly a communist bent to Obamas policies ie bank nationalization, but Bush began this process...
02 24 09
And to be sure, we really cannot pin blame on any one individual. Blame lies in the very system that has been allowed to continue. I blame congressmen for accepting lobbyist favours and I blame previous presidents for not abolishing the fed and I blame lawmakers who fail to represent what their constituencies want and instead line their own pockets. And lastly, we cannot forget the credit reporting agencies!!!
"Alan Keyes is truly interesting. On life issues, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH HIM!!!" MSR
You aint lying Mandisa.
Keys is a character and 1000% on point regarding abortion.
"Honestly feel that the whole abortion thing is a conspiracy to cheapen human life and find Obamas stances unconscionable." MSR
It's even deeper than that Mahndisa.
Not until I began to understand that Secularism is not mere agnosticism or atheism but is actually devil worship - did I fully understand and appreciate that abortion is a massive religious ritual of human sacrifice to the God of evil.
That is why it is so important to them.
That is why they don't call it "abortion" but a woman's right to choose.
I knew abortion was wrong when I realized no human being can look at an image of an abortion without turning away.
Not only can I look at it without turning away, I can do so and think absolutely nothing of it.
Too many ignorant and superstitious fools - who can no more define "ensoulment" than a cockroach can read - continue to influence political discourse with their inquisitors' medieval sensibilities.
This is the same stupidity that brought about the horrors of the inquisition and effectively stamped out matriarchal traditional medicine in europe.
Keyes is a useful idiot in mercenary service to some of the most de-evolutionary and backward elements in America.
At the dawn of the second millennium Europe was slowly emerging from the Dark Ages. There were no nations and the people were loyal only to their immediate community and to God. The keeper of God's word was the Catholic Church, the only religion in all of Christendom. The supreme religious leader, the Pope in Rome, crowned the Kings who became rulers of the Holy Roman Empire stretching from Sicily north to Poland. The Emperor was ruler of the temporal world while the Pope and his Bishops reigned supreme over the Spiritual world.
By the 12th and 13th century, cracks began appearing in this ordered world. Emperors no longer submitted to being crowned by the Pope and across Europe Kings demanded the right to select their own Bishops. But for the Pope the most terrifying threat came from upstart Christian sects who challenged church doctrine and the absolute power of the Roman Pope. To preserve the purity of the faith and the unquestioned authority of the Pope, the Church began to crack down on all dissenting with a new weapon: the Inquisition. For over half a millennium a system of mass terror reigned. Thousands were subject to secret courts, torture and punishment.
Secret files of the inquisition.
"Not only can I look at it without turning away, I can do so and think absolutely nothing of it."
Bullshit
You cannot gaze upon a 20 week old fetus, post-blender, without turning away.
Not unless you are a sick bastard.
Maybe you should rummage through the dozen or so babies you will find in any dumpster behind an abortion clinic to test your theory.
And nah. It's the superstitious fools are the murderous barbaric pagan pseudo-scientific secular satanic fanatics who promote both pornography and abortion.
Actually the stupid are people who will buy into anything packaged in the Trojan Horse of "liberty" or "free choice".
"Kill the baby in your womb! It's your right!!"
"Don't let the superstitious religious fanatics convince you that 6 month old fetus with eyes a brain and a heartbeat is life!"
"Scientists say it's just a fetus!"
"It's your right to choose!!!"
Yeah, CNu. Your religion disguised as science is as backwards and medieval as alchemy.
Bullshit
You cannot gaze upon a 20 week old fetus, post-blender, without turning away.
Not unless you are a sick bastard.
Look up cranial prosection and then go mentate on the fact that I did dozens of these as a way to make money in college. I'm not sick, I'm just not squeamish like a beehotch about biology, and that includes human biology.
While you may be too sweet to get your pretty shoes dirty DV, some of us know our way around a scalpel, a microscope, and a body.
Maybe you should rummage through the dozen or so babies you will find in any dumpster behind an abortion clinic to test your theory.
For sure you should stop clowning and making amateurish forays into bibtard propaganda. I grew up knowing George Tiller (you know, the notorious "baby killer") my entire young and young adult life (we went to the same church and my parents were good friends with the Tillers)
Everything you've said above is an ignorant lie.
As for the rest, none of it's worth responding to. Neither you or the other moral narcissist you call yourself repping here have any cogent clue about the "ensoulment" claim at the root of your superstitions. Neither one of you have given it any deep thought. Both of you are just making loud, sentimental, and ultimately stupid arguments predicated on feelings you can't even articulate.
You're each as incapable of holding up a coherent side of this discussion as Alan Keyes is incapable of getting elected to public office.
BTW - before you clown yourself beyond the point of no return, you should look into Francis Schaeffer and the political origins of dominionist moralizing in American politics. Now that his son has repudiated this crass manipulation, its history is a matter of public record.
Being that I'm from Wichita, the absolute hub of this controversy and with first hand knowledge of the players and of the game they've played - I'd love an opportunity to set the record straight on the snake oil you're peddling today.
When Sen. Obama’s preacher thundered about racism and injustice, Obama suffered smear-by-association. But when my late father - religious right leader Francis Schaeffer denounced America and even called for the violent overthrow of the U.S. government, he was invited to lunch with presidents Ford, Reagan and Bush Sr.
Every Sunday thousands of right-wing white preachers (following in my father’s footsteps) rail against America’s sins from tens of thousands of pulpits. They tell us that America is complicit in the “murder of the unborn,” has become “Sodom” by coddling gays, and that our public schools are sinful places full of evolutionists and sex educators hell-bent on corrupting children.
They say, as my dad often did, that we are, “under the judgment of God.” They call America evil and warn of immanent destruction. By comparison Obama’s minister’s shouted “controversial” comments were mild.
All he said was that God should damn America for our racism and violence and that no one had ever used the N-word about Hillary Clinton.
Dad and I were amongst the founders of the religious right. In the 1970s and 1980s, while Dad and I crisscrossed America denouncing our nation’s sins, instead of getting in trouble we became darlings of the Republican Party. (This was while I was my father’s sidekick before I dropped out of the evangelical movement altogether.)
We were rewarded for our “stand” by people such as Congressman Jack Kemp, the Fords, Reagan and the Bush family. The top Republican leadership depended on preachers and agitators like us to energize their rank and file. No one called us un-American.
Frank Schaeffer's denunciation of his father Francis Schaeffer's dominionist crusading. Schaeffer was the father of the religious right in America. Knowing your ahistorical bent on such matters, I know full well that you know nothing about his fundamentalist Calvinism and exactly what that meant and how it was interpreted by his closest followers and financiers.
Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the Calvinist doctrine of the "elect". This is before we even get to the insane politics wrapped around the insane and ignorant theology.
The father of Dominionism;
Influence on the Christian Right
Christian Right leaders such as Tim LaHaye have credited Schaeffer for influencing their theological arguments urging political participation by evangelicals. Randall Terry, the founder of Operation Rescue, also acknowledged the influence of Schaeffer.
Beginning in the 1990s, critics began exploring the intellectual/ideological connection between Schaeffer’s political activism and writings of the early 1980s to contemporary religious-political trends in the Christian Right, sometimes grouped under the name Dominionism, with mixed conclusions.
Sara Diamond and Frederick Clarkson have written articles tracing the activism of numerous key figures in the Christian Right to the influence of Francis Schaeffer. According to Diamond: "The idea of taking dominion over secular society gained widespread currency with the 1981 publication of...Schaeffer's book A Christian Manifesto. The book sold 290,000 copies in its first year, and it remains one of the movement's most frequently cited texts." Diamond summarizes the book and its importance to the Christian Right:
In A Christian Manifesto, Schaeffer's argument is simple. The United States began as a nation rooted in Biblical principles. But as society became more pluralistic, with each new wave of immigrants, proponents of a new philosophy of secular humanism gradually came to dominate debate on policy issues. Since humanists place human progress, not God, at the center of their considerations, they pushed American culture in all manner of ungodly directions, the most visible results of which included legalized abortion and the secularization of the public schools. At the end of -- A Christian Manifesto, Schaeffer calls for Christians to use civil disobedience to restore Biblical morality, which explains Schaeffer's popularity with groups like Operation Rescue. Randall Terry has credited Schaeffer as a major influence in his life.
Frederick Clarkson explains that this had practical applications:
"Francis Schaeffer is widely credited with providing the impetus for Protestant evangelical political action against abortion. For example, Randall Terry, the founder of Operation Rescue, says: "You have to read Schaeffer's Christian Manifesto if you want to understand Operation Rescue." Schaeffer, a longtime leader in Rev. Carl McIntire's splinter denomination, the Bible Presbyterian Church, was a reader of Reconstructionist literature but has been reluctant to acknowledge its influence. Indeed, Schaeffer and his followers specifically rejected the modern application of Old Testament law."
Analyses of Schaeffer as the major intellectual influence on Dominionism can be found in the works of authors such as Diamond and Chip Berlet.
Actually, CNu
I don't need to reference a bunch of obscure white boys to validate every thought.
Nor do I need to have gone to church with a doctor who specializes in late-term abortions to appreciate the inherent vulgarity of destroying a child before it is born.
The fact you may have cut up a few kids during that occult indoctrination you confuse for education, doesn't make your lack of argument any more coherent.
Your little sullen and disproportionate cynicism doesn't disguise the fact that your hatred for some imaginary enemy you term 'bibtard' has hijacked you muhfuggin mind.
Mahndisa, I'm surprised that you, someone who gracefully discusses forms which are inhibitingly complex to the novitiate, would unthinkingly use the descriptive communist to refer to policy proposals explicitly designed and favored by capitalists to reaffirm their continued hegemony.
I, too, have witnessed dead fetuses without moral revulsion. Also, I had the great fortune of taking my then six year old daughter to see the Body Worlds exhibit last year in Baltimore. She approached it with great curiosity and enthusiasm without a hint of unease. A great measure of this is undoubtedly due to the anti-essentialist and anti-dogmatic outlook of her father.
The fact you may have cut up a few kids during that occult indoctrination you confuse for education, doesn't make your lack of argument any more coherent.
Kids?!?!?!?!
Don't google much eh?
I said "cranial" not "fetal" Beavis...,
Your little sullen and disproportionate cynicism doesn't disguise the fact that your hatred for some imaginary enemy you term 'bibtard' has hijacked you muhfuggin mind.
sullen?
disproportionate?
imaginary?
The difference between you and I DV, is that I can pinpoint and specify EXACTLY:
who?
what?
and why?
I object to a thing or not.
The bibtard phenomenon is as real and dangerous as I've called it out to be - principally because of the real dangerous politics of the folks who organized, funded, and ruthlessly exploit these malleable atavisms who are incapable of being reasoned with.
You on the other hand, are a specialist in handwavy signal noise fully and completely incapable of even articulating why you claim to believe a fraction of the things you claim to believe.
Your polemical use of "unborn child" didn't go unnoticed btw. Your dominionist co-religionist Mahndisa goes so far as to pretend that an undifferentiated clump of cells is an "unborn child" - so there's really no end to how reactionary and ignorant the bibtard mind is capable of pretending to be - pursuant to the theocratic political agenda of the unscrupulous sadducees and pharisees manipulating it.
She approached it with great curiosity and enthusiasm without a hint of unease. A great measure of this is undoubtedly due to the anti-essentialist and anti-dogmatic outlook of her father.
ditto..,
By comparison, DV must have his chirren enrolled in the local bible-thumper madrassa where they can imbibe mass quantities of medieval ignorance professing their hatred of jews, homosexuals, feminists, baby-killers, communists and all satanic practitioners of non-medieval group identity politics.
Cnulan
"DV must have his chirren enrolled in the local bible-thumper madrassa where they can imbibe mass quantities of medieval ignorance professing their hatred of jews, homosexuals, feminists, baby-killers, communists and all satanic practitioners of non-medieval group identity politics."
"Hateristians" is what I think cats like DV are called on the streets! Rupert Murdoch loves them... keeps them focused!
DV goes into a tizzy about abortion but worships artist who promote gang banging, drive byes & crack sales near playgrounds... All notorious for taking out the born?!
"Damm! Damm! Damm!"
Florida Evans
Worse than that Cap, DV and the bibtard life posse are nowhere to be found in the line to adopt and provide fatherly sustenance to ANY of these myriad unborns.
The narcissism, hypocrisy, and irresponsibility of everything these magical thinking folks say is truly breathtaking....,
I'd like to see a discussion on the ensoulment issue.
Big Man,
After everything is said and done, that IS the crux of the matter.
I'm always game on that particular subject.
That said, I think what you'll discover from the dedicated opposition, is that they've never even considered it, and frankly, find the entire matter mystifying and impermeable to contemplation, much less direct interrogation.
02 25 09
Submariner:
I answered your statement in another thread but I appreciate the link to the Japanese Geometry text. Now that looks hella cool!
BodyWorld is a whole helluva lot different than active barbarism of fetal murder. Don't you think?
To respond to the Craig - DV tiff about working with corpses,
I have kicked it in cadaver labs and while everyone else gasped, I moved forward for examination.I ain't squeamish in the least.
However, I cry when I see dead baby pics no matter how they died. Hell, I even cry when I hear about a baby or child dying or getting kidnapped or fucked up by a sexual predator. Children are our future and are my heart.
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