Monday, June 02, 2008

Key Witness Against R. Kelly Testifying In Exchange For Plea Deal For Her New Boyfriend

Lisa Van Allen, 27, arrives Monday at the Cook County Criminal Courts Building with her fiance Yul Brown.

The questioning then turned to Van Allen's skills in choosing a mate. Turns out both her former boyfriend, defense witness Damon Pryor, and her fiance, Yul Brown, were convicted on federal fraud charges.

"What, do you have some thing where guys have to have some federal fraud charge before you are interested in them?" Adam quipped.

Many in the courtroom, including Van Allen, laughed.

"I see you laughing, is that funny?" Adam asked. "No," Van Allen responded.

Later, Adam asked Van Allen about the February arrest of Brown on gun and drug charges. Brown, who Adam said faced 22 years in prison, pleaded guilty and received probation shortly after arranging for Van Allen to come forward to testify against Kelly.

THE PROSECUTION
Kelly's all-star defense team might meet its match in Shauna Boliker (left), the hard-driven prosecutor in charge of the sex-crimes division for the Cook County state's attorney's office.

The singer's trial was postponed last year after Boliker gave birth to her third son. She had initially intended to return from maternity leave to lead the Kelly prosecution less than three weeks after having the baby, but a court spokesman said a doctor's order prohibited her from coming back so soon.

Boliker is known for her dedication to her career and family, working a long day, then going home to put her sons to bed before returning to work late into the night at the Criminal Courts Building.

Intellectual Insurgent said...
I'm sorry to go off topic, but this line caught my eye -

Boliker is known for her dedication to her career and family, working a long day, then going home to put her sons to bed before returning to work late into the night at the Criminal Courts Building.

Feminists just can't let things go without spitting their vile propaganda. Since when does dedication to family mean taking a 20-minute break from work to put the kids to bed?
Would I be considered dedicated to my career if I spent 20 minutes a day doing legal work?

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Intellectual Insurgent said...

I'm sorry to go off topic, but this line caught my eye -

Boliker is known for her dedication to her career and family, working a long day, then going home to put her sons to bed before returning to work late into the night at the Criminal Courts Building.

Feminists just can't let things go without spitting their vile propaganda. Since when does dedication to family mean taking a 20-minute break from work to put the kids to bed?

Would I be considered dedicated to my career if I spent 20 minutes a day doing legal work?

Anonymous said...

Dina, you werent "off topic." That segment of the story was specifically highlighted by you know who.

He's fighting propaganda with propaganda. Except we dascent call the latter propaganda.

LOL.

Denmark Vesey said...

Robyn. You seeing things.

That segment of the story is actually in a smaller font, not highlighted, than the rest of the story.

Why you got your lips poked out in advance?

Anonymous said...

I aint mad, just callin things how I see them. Why exactly are your "lips poked out?"

But its okay. I'll play along. I didnt even see the part about the prosecutor's personal life and how she just popped a kid. I only read the part about the bombshell witness. Matter fact, I dont even read your blog. I have no clue as to your opinions re: women, children and career. Better yet, I'm not even typing this.

That better?

Denmark Vesey said...

Robyn, I'm confused. I am sure it's me. I'm not particularly articulate and often struggle expressing myself, so please be patient.

You suggested to Dina that she was not off topic because the portion of the piece regarding the prosecutor's time with her sons was "highlighted" by "you know who".

I certainly would have highlighted it had it occurred to me to do so. But it didn't. And it's not. Unless my web browser is tripping.

So I am wondering what compelled the most objective young lady on the internet, to say it is.

Anonymous said...

Well if your asking if the color of the text is different or if the font size is larger, than no. Your right, its not highlighted.

But,if your asking me if there is some distinction between this section and the rest of the story, than my answer would be "absolutely."

One minute, I'm reading about some ho and how Kelly paid her to keep some tape secret and how her last 2 boyfriends faced federal charges then....

STOP. SWITCH GEARS. RED TITLE LINE. UNDERLINED. NEW PICTURE. OF A CHICK NOT ON THE TAPE. WHO AINT FUCKED KELLS.

The female prosecutor gave birth 3 weeks before trial was supposed to start last year. She spends some evening working, and my word, actually leaves the house after she returned home to put her children to bed. The horror!

So, that's what I saw. Maybe you didnt intend that. But what a hell of a coinky-dink.

Anonymous said...

Before you even start typing...

I know. I know.

I've been brainwashed and programmed by the feminist nazis. I see shit when it aint even there.

Denmark Vesey said...

Nahhhhh Nah Robyn. You aint been brainwashed.

Just in need of a spanking.

The portion regarding the Prosecutor, like the rest of the piece, was cut and paste for the Chicago Tribune.

I kept it in there because I am fascinated by the human face of those who work 16 hour days to send men to prison for 16 years.

Now, I know you and Dina have had a running commentary about the ability of a woman to be both a "dedicated mom" and "dedicated" to her career.

If you got something to say about Dina's commentary, don't hide behind fugggin with me over a font change.

Anonymous said...

I'm not hiding. Just thought it ironic that she felt she was "off topic."

Since you asked the question, no I dont agree with Dina. That prosecutor could be working exceptionally hard on only this case, she could have a crib in her damn office.

Sounded to me like the woman was under pressure to return to work for the Kelly trial but refused. Sounded to me like she said you either wait or give the case to someone else. They waited.

I dont AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME that this woman is some career-obsession woman who loves Clark County more than her kid and that she's only working so as to be able to indulge her need for meaningless excesses.

But Dina is entitled to her assumptions and judgments...I mean opinions.

Meanwhile, Kathy Hilton, Brenda Ritchie and Dina Lohan were at home with their children.

Lotta good that did.

Anonymous said...

...and for a proponent of individual rights and the rights of individual parents, you sure do do a lot of finger wagging.

You'll go to bat harder on behalf of the polygamist women who "wrongfully" had their children taken (in the name of parental right) than you would for this women who simply has a career in the law. That's slightly off-kilter IMO.

Okay, there. I'm done.

Denmark Vesey said...

Good stuff Robyn. Very good.

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Ahhhh, DV's trying to instigate a cat fight. LOL!!!

But since we got it going, why not?
Let's quit rationalizing this b.s. and make it simple.

Having a crib in her damn office makes her no better of a mother than having a computer in my baby's nursery makes me a good lawyer.

Pointing to all the stay-at-home mothers whose children turned out as train wrecks is an easy target. Come on now Robyn. You got more game than that.

Could it be perhaps that we encourage our smartest, most thoughtful women to go slave for massa 60 hours per week while the remainder end up at home because they are not economically viable?

What would happen if we convinced the smartest and brightest women that the highest accomplishment was not to get an R. Kelly conviction, but to raise well-adjusted kids? Would homegirl be popping in at bedtime just in time to kiss the kids good night, while dedicating every bit of energy to her job? Prolly not.

Our society has it completely backwards. A wise thoughtful woman should be at home raising wise thoughtful children. Leave the peasants to go fetch for massa.

Now let me put the qualifier. IF A FAMILY CANNOT AFFORD FOR MOM TO STAY HOME, THIS DISCUSSION DOES NOT APPLY. So let's not run down bunny trails all butt hurt about the women who have to work. My mother worked for the better part of my childhood. She had to. It is what it is. I don't fault her or begrudge her for it, but that's not the ideal and just because she did it doesn't mean it isn't ideal for women to be home full-time.

Anonymous said...

Dont retreat now, D.

Now "the women who can afford not to work" should be at home with their children.

A while back, didnt families just need to "get their priorities in check" and "tighten their belts?" Wasnt public transportation something folks should get off their high horses about and birthdays and vacations unnecessary waste?

Okay. But now I'm clear. Poor folks are excused from your rant. "But what about the children?!"

You challenge the notion that a crib in one's office makes them a good parent.

Well I challenge the notion that being within arms length of your baby 24 hours a day makes one a good parent.

That aint shit but geography.

When your daughter is home with her father are you derelict in your duties during your time away? Absolutely not. You are no less a mother than when your baby is in your lap.

Motherhood is a state of being. Not a to-do list. You clearly mean well and have the most honorable intent, but you have unknowingly diminished the role.

Heaven forbid your child ever has a babysitter. But if she does, (your) motherhood is what will make her ears perk up when your keys jingle in the door.

Shit, my mom smoked cigarettes when I was young. Motherhood made the made the mix of Kools and Afred Sung smell sweet.

When its all said and done, if you've done a good job, Manar wont be somewhere tallying up the number of diapers you changed. If you dont believe that, think of how you regard your own mother.

You say I can do better than citing Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton and Nicole Ritchie.

I absolutely can.

RNJ, DA and K.Slde.

Anonymous said...

That chick is hot. Wouldn't mind a two on one with her! :-)

Denmark Vesey said...

LOL. Man you crazy.

Find your ass on a video tape next thing we know.

Talkin' 'bout "dat aint me!"

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Robyn, I must commend you that you've stepped up your game immensely in the past few months. I always enjoy a worthy adversary.

Well I challenge the notion that being within arms length of your baby 24 hours a day makes one a good parent.

You're responding to an argument I haven't made. Please read what I wrote carefully.

Being a good mother requires a great deal of wisdom and thought. Thus, one must wonder why it is that our society encourages the women who are the wisest and most thoughtful to NOT BE MOTHERS. Why is it that a woman who shows an ounce of sense will be put on birth control and encouraged to be an astronaut or a lawyer or a doctor, but motherhood will be diminished as a waste of her talent?

How the hell did this happen? It got normalized by accepting without challenge inane suggestions that "working a long day, then going home to put her sons to bed before returning to work late into the night at the Criminal Courts Building" is evidence of dedication to family.

That is not dedication to family. That is dedication to career. Let's call it what it is.

Does one need to be with her child 24-7 to be a good parent?

No.

But that doesn't mean the opposite is true - that being away from the child the majority of the day is healthy or should be encouraged.
Separating mother from child is a new phenomenon and we're starting to see the consequences of it everyday. It doesn't mean that the kids will turn out horribly if mom has to work.

But shit. Ask yourself why men are unable to commit these days? Because their prime example of a female was a woman who wasn't around. It doesn't matter why, it doesn't matter if she "had" to work, what matters is that he didn't feel like he was top priority. And understand that men, in their hearts, need to feel that. If you don't understand that basic principle, you will never be married.

A boy who grew accustomed to having a relationship with his mother over the phone, part-time, over a tv dinner, for 20 minutes at bedtime before she returned to the office, carries that model into adulthood.

And then 30+ women wonder why men don't call, send them text messages every few days, don't want to cook a meal together and get terrified about actually bonding with a woman.

Fuck Lindsay Lohan and the rest of them. You want to fix the Black community Robyn? Get married, make babies and raise them yourself. You be the primary example of a down ass broad that your daughter will want to be and that your son will want to marry. The rest is talk.

G M said...

FeMEnists vs. Man

That's what this case really boils down to...yet again. Of course this ho takes things on-court where the entire feMEnist legal machine backs her azz up. In this arena - with the books and prosecutors stacked against men - she becomes a lion fighting a sheep.

Agreed wholeheartedly with II and DV here. This case is a joke and that lawyer bich a pathetic excuse for a mom.

Anonymous said...

Byrdeye: This case is a joke and that lawyer bich a pathetic excuse for a mom.

RJ: How you know? On what basis exactly do you make that statement? You are about as qualified to make that judgment as is an anorexic in a pie eating contest. You just typing so as to have something to do.

Anonymous said...

Fair (and quite self serving) response re: Judgment. I get that.

But since this is "not about mothers who work" but instead about "a system that encourages them to do so" point out where, on this blog, on any blog, IBM has ever been referred to as " that lawyer bitch [who is] a pathetic excuse for a mom."

Now I know you didnt type that, Byrdeye did, but it is a fair illustration that its garbage to conveniently compartmentalize this debate as solely "an attack on a system."

Perhaps you have evolved, admittedly your recent writings do not attack the women themselves as much as in the past. I'm just not so sure you can call a working mother "an oxymoron" without attacking that woman.