Thursday, November 08, 2007

The Empowering Genius of Hip Hop vs. The Intellectually Impovershing Theories of "Global System of White Supremacy"


fist tap Jasai
The Chakras of Hip Hop


The Cosmic Serpent, DNA and the Origins of Knowledge

19 comments:

Anonymous said...

Here is the thing DV
...

Big J, myself and others...people you may call "hip hop haters"...truth is guys like us only deal with artists on the top 4 chackras

Rakim, Wutang, Nas, Common, PE.....top 4 chackras


artists like 50, T.I. .......thats the bottom 3 chackras right there....

you just schooled yourself DV.....

Anonymous said...

perhaps indeed a lower leval chakra, but a chakra nontheless right?

Anonymous said...

beautiful observation tg.

to say that this is an important subject/discussion is a gross understatement.

Anonymous said...

Great video. According to Dr. Watson, these guys shouldn't have the intellectual capacity to comprehend what they're actually teaching. This is another demonstration of the political, intellectual, and spiritual recrudescence in Black America that is totally obscured by current popular discussions.

Anonymous said...

Dr. Watson and others would like to stop us in our "knowing" tracks so that we don't get too far ahead of them.

that desperate little blurb was his last service to those he serves. it won't work. we do know. we always have.

Anonymous said...

http://www.terebess.hu/english/tao/ron.html#Kap20

'Don't spend too much time thinking about stupid shit.
Why should you care if people agree or disagree with you?
Why should you care if others find you attractive or not?
Why should you care about the things that worry others?
Call bullshit on all that.'

Anonymous said...

DV-I really dig you bruh...however, I am constantly left to ponder at times whether you are a true "hip-hop" head such as myself or just another follower of commercially packaged, force-fed "art".

(That really did hurt coming out, because I'm sure I'm missing something-:-)

Because folks refuse to acknowledge Hov as the greatest poet of all time, or bow down to Fiddy in his all of his material excess, they get labled rap haters. That just ain't fair mane.

Don't get me wrong, Hov is great, (Fiddy...not so much), but
your lack of props to other extremely talented poets such as Pharoahe Monch, Talib Kweli, Little Brother, and a world of others makes me question your authenticity.

No harm, just curious :-)

Denmark Vesey said...

TG said...

Here is the thing DV
...

Big J, myself and others...people you may call "hip hop haters"...truth is guys like us only deal with artists on the top 4 chackras

Rakim, Wutang, Nas, Common, PE.....top 4 chackras


artists like 50, T.I. .......thats the bottom 3 chackras right there....

you just schooled yourself DV.....


Maybe TG. Maybe I did.

Or …

As the young brother pointed out in the “Bloodlines of Hip Hop” … The higher Chokras are transmitted in a manner that transcends the limitations of words. He gave the example of Biggie …. “Who the fuck is this … Paging me at 5:46 … In the Mornin’ … Crack of Dawnin’ … Now I’m yawnin’ … Whipe the cold out my eye … See Who’s This … Pagin’ me … and why …”

Now. It is fashionable for … rap haters … (forgive me, but that cracks me up) to pretend like they really get Nas and they really love Biggie. But the fact is Big and Nas also included references to bitches, and hos, and niggas, and guns, and faggots, and pussy and dicks. Don’t pretend they didn’t and don’t.

What I propose to you, my dear TG, is that the disproportionate and organized hate of our current crop of Rap heavy hitters is not because the content of their rap … or the lack of elevation of their chokras … but because they are actually an extension of their predecessors and have begun to represent a threat to the Chokra ignorant – those that can’t hear it.

The phenomenal global impact of their rap is EVIDENCE of their higher chokra level. They are providing Chokras to a Chokra starved world, alienated by technology and the God of Money.

Anonymous said...

DV

I think Kimberly and TG have hit on something. This is why I call you a rap groupie because your focus is not on the thousands of other rappers in the game but only a select 2-3. That does not equate to someone who is truly a connaisseur of rap but truly a groupie of a few. Your rap hater self defense is just an attempt to use Fox News scare tactics to deflect the truth. BTW your Nas Biggie comparison is like Kobe suggesting he was not guilty of adultery because Shaq was cheating on his wife too. So what maybe Shaq did but the topic of discussion is about you Kobe. Stay focused man.

CNu said...

Too bad there's no such thing as high-powered hot pee ordinance. Cause all y'all silly nuccas need to be shot with hot pee all at once today.

You know the 50 Page Book Man. He's on Venice Beach in LA telling fortunes, reading palms and speaking with a mystical tone of voice. He's on Amsterdam Avenue in NY with a table full of incense, Afrocentric paperbacks and Kente Cloth. He's at the Little Five Points Mall in Atlanta selling The Final Call and telling you that you don't know your *self*. He's in the 5th Ward of Houston sitting on a milk crate puffing herb telling you the whole system is corrupt and you cannot see that without the power of ganja. More often than not, he's painfully aware of his position as an outsider and thus sees society as a conspiracy against him.

DV down to extolling the virtues of past their prime fiddypage book men. jes dayyum.....,

Anonymous said...

I for one love the "fiddypage book men". The suburbs need some of those cats.

And I'm curious, who decides what one's 'prime' is??

Anonymous said...

Craig, I know that Cobb and some others may consider these guys lacking on a seemingly objective scale. I doubt the second brother was an epigeneticist (btw, you must show me how to do those cool links)as discussed at http://www.dnafiles.org/programs or that he was going to illuminate the structure of purines and pyrimidines the way my organic chemistry teacher did in undergrad. And I can tell you from my experience of dissecting a human cadaver that there are no distinct anatomic strucures that correspond exactly to all the chakras.

But these guys do maintain a tradition of establishing an intellectual architecture for us by us. I like fat, complex books. In fact, one reason I'm drawn to you and E.C. Hopkins is that you invariably throw up a term or concept that I've never heard of and I have to refer to a dictionary or wikipedia.

However, that can be quite intimidating and off putting for many. Recently, you noted the role of guilds and tools of exclusion during a discussion between Dr. Spence and Hopkins on the utility and merit of Ph.D programs. Based on one of your earlier citations, I recently read Theory of the Leisure Class by Thorstein Veblen. I was surprised to learn that what I considered unbiased markers of an educated mind are very much related to pecuniary strength.

Aside from standing on a picket line with my mom and other workers fom Local 1199 during a strike, one of my great inspirations was walking down Jamaica Ave in Queens and listening to Five Percenters brothers from NOI as they extolled their views. What these guys said was that I could be just like them and use my mind to make conscious choices and that I didn't have to be driven by subcortical urges. They also told me that I could develop a psychic framework which left me feeling empowered and acknowledged the unique contributions of my forebears rather than feeling like a minor vestige.

cnulan said...

Sub,

Go download a copy of the alleycode editor and then write your comments and posts in the editor. When you want to tag some text with a link - mouse over the text, select Insert, select hyperlink, and then past the link and voila, you've now tagged some text as a hypertext link.

Also good for bolding, italicizing, and other sundry editing functions and needs.

Now, back to the fiddypage fellas.., I'm not mad at em. We have the hub of the UNOI here in KCK. I'm all about having discretionary access to a tasty whitefish sammish and fat of slice of bean pie like waaaaay back in the day. Not to mention, they have some very entertaining "mathematical reasoning" classes that I've sat in on for grins - oh - and you can even get a UNOI high colonic administered by a tres sexy freckle-faced red-boneded quasi-pseudo nurse type sister who is entertaining as hell to talk to at the Fountain of Life. (some true and genuine fiddypage love for that azz...., LOL!!!)

Anyway - I'm all about the cultivation of a culture of competency, (my way of describing esoteric culture) but it has to be based on an authentic and viable practice rather than some cobbled together horseshit like these new age kneegrows are peddling.

Theosophists were frauds and the ignorant and ill-informed slapdash combination of theosophy, ayahuasca, and hiphop is a recipe for some hot mess if I ever saw one. Believe me brother - as a lifelong explorer of the further reaches of experience - this crap these fools are peddling doesn't pass the baseline smell test.

They're doing folks a disservice, and there's no need for that given the existence and fairly easy access to a genuine culture of competence in most lost metropolitan areas...,

Denmark Vesey said...

“Anyway - I'm all about the cultivation of a culture of competency, (my way of describing esoteric culture) but it has to be based on an authentic and viable practice “

Translation: Any and all ideas, must ultimately be sanctioned by white people. Failure to receive fiat from one of the academic plantations will result in condemnation, ridicule and a barrage of sardonicism.

Those that bitch about a “Global System of White Supremacy” have yet to realize the myth of white power rests on a weak foundation of white authorship. Shit is so … because they say it is so.

Freud sniffs cocaine and shits absurd theories with polysyllabic names and Negros borrow money to attend colleges to learn to parrot any concept which includes the word “liminal”.

The “50 page book” brothers are no less authentic than the “500 page book” white boys who forced fed you Peter De Vries.

(CNu, thanks for the link to alleycode. Got a link that will work on a Mac?)

cnulan said...

Translation: Any and all ideas, must ultimately be sanctioned by white people. Failure to receive fiat from one of the academic plantations will result in condemnation, ridicule and a barrage of sardonicism.

rotflmbao...,

What I had in mind was something like a thermobaric weapon that would spin up a massive cloud combining your hot air and small droplets of scalding hot pee.

Anywhere you pitch the silly tent,

KABOOM!!!!!

(CNu, thanks for the link to alleycode. Got a link that will work on a Mac?)

go to sourceforge and search on WYSIWYG html editors and you're bound to come up with something.

Denmark Vesey said...

kimberly said...
"DV-I really dig you bruh...however, I am constantly left to ponder at times whether you are a true "hip-hop" head such as myself or just another follower of commercially packaged, force-fed "art". Kimberly


I dig you too Kimberly. I’ve always liked your style.

But regarding “Rap Haters”. I’m glad you asked.

One is not labeled a “Rap Hater” because one fails to ‘bow down’ or fails to acknowledge Jigga as a great poet. One is labeled a “Rap Hater” when one … hates … on … rap.

It’s really not that deep.

If you back up and examine the ridiculous statements of the … uh .. “Rap haters”, you will see a pattern.

“Rap is the worst thing to ever happen to black people”... “Hip Hop degrades black women”… “Hip Hop promotes violence” … yada yada yawn. Attempting to attach that kind of baggage to an art form is just … stupid.

Rap Haters are suckers who repeat the memes of the myth monopolists who attack all others who traffic in myth and whom they view as competitors.

Regarding Fiddy. I defend the cat because I’ve listened to his music. Carefully. Not just “In Da Club” or “Get Money” … but all of his music from “Ghetto Koran” to “Many Men”. I hear a writer HEADS AND SHOULDERS above the anything I’m hearing from the intellectual midgets lined up to take pot shots from afar. I am more impressed with him, than I am with myself. And if you haven’t noticed, I’m very impressed with myself.

A cat like Casper attempting to dismiss Fiddy is like Gary Coleman calling Shaq short.

To wrap it up Kimberly, I hate jealous niggas. Even those with convoluted excuses to hate.

Pharoah, Talib, Common? I like those cats. But they are not on the same level. If they were operating on a “Higher Chokra”, they too would have the global penetration of a Tupac, of a Jigga and a Fiddy.

Yeah, yeah marketing this marketing that. The labels release artists who flop everyday. Fiddy is banging in South Africa and Havana and Brooklyn because somebody is feeling him. Despite what these insecure brothas, who are scared their girl is feeling him, say.

Anonymous said...

eh...Jigga/Pac

really shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as 50 cent

Jigga and Pac started in the game at a time when you REALLY had to be nice ...if you really go through their material you'll find those guys REALLY rode the line


50 cent is CLEARLY on one side of the game

CNu said...

My man Temple3 prompted me to revisit this topic somewhat less sardonically.

[Origin: 1630–40; alter. of earlier sardonian (influenced by F sardonique) < L sardoni(us) (< Gk sardónios of Sardinia) + -an; alluding to a Sardinian plant which when eaten was supposed to produce convulsive laughter ending in death]

I'ma try to kick out a post on this topic before the weekend is out. It is profoundly important, which is why these fiddypage book men gotta go, gotta go, gotta go....,

Anonymous said...

DV-“Rap Hater” when one … hates … on … rap.

Thanks. For. Breaking. That. Down.

:-)