Tuesday, September 25, 2007

Honestly. Is Your First Impulse Pride or Hate?

" It was a lot of power in there. You basically had the powerhouses of Hip-Hop all in one room and we had a ball.”

22 comments:

cnulan said...

indifference...,

wouldn't have known about it if you hadn't mentioned it, and will never feel any manifestation coming from it aside from the occasional spurt of noise out of the car radio when my children get their grubby little digits on the channel button and move the dial to the disney radio station occasioning some or another snippet of their workproduct reaching my air for a few seconds before I slap it back to community radio KKFI.

Anonymous said...

Certainly not hate for them as individuals.

I love to see brothas smiling.

Look at the grin on brotha J.

Anonymous said...

Neither, more like disinterested.

Denmark Vesey said...

What's more hateful than indifference and disinterest?

Anonymous said...

Indifference sounds about right.

Anonymous said...

because something is not of interest to a person they hate it?

there is a spook around every corner, huh guy?

Denmark Vesey said...

No Jasai,

Pump your brakes. You can project in a minute.

Just asked, what's more hateful than indifference and disinterest?

Anonymous said...

i am asserting that neither of those is hate.

which in you eyes is the only thing that can be going on if there is no love for these cats.

Anonymous said...

Oh please DV, whats so hateful about disinterest? Must I be interested in all black entertainers in the world? I wish them well as human beings, what more do I need to do.

Anonymous said...

bow down.

you didn't know accra?

cause them brothas is doin' it. stickin' it to the man. showing him that he ain't the only one that can get money and women and not have to answer to anybody.

what?

Denmark Vesey said...

Accra said...

Oh please DV, whats so hateful about disinterest? Must I be interested in all black entertainers in the world? I wish them well as human beings, what more do I need to do." Accra

You don't need to do anything Sista Accra. I just asked.

Kind of a Black Man's Burden litmus test.

I find it interesting that the response to 3 of the most recognizable black men on the planet is purported to be "disinterest" and "indifference".

lol.

front street

Anonymous said...

what's more hateful than indifference?

ask a black woman and she'll (i'll) say:
- sexual objectification - Fiddy
- blatant disregard of value - Diddy

this picture made me smile instantly since Jigga is the object. then rolled my eyes upon noticing Diddy and Fiddy.

Anonymous said...

3 of the most recognizable black men on the planet is purported to be "disinterest" and "indifference".
-DV

you got to be phuckin' wit me!

three of the favorite pastimes of the people on this planet are television, McDonalds-like fare, and pornography.

what kind of litmus test is that? and what exactly does it prove?

that we should be running like our assholes are on fire away from all other such "popular" or "recognized" vices.

Anonymous said...

WMD's and dissappointing MC's (minus Jay)

you bad as Bush.

what are you really sellin'?

Denmark Vesey said...

You lost me Jasai. Break that down for me again, please.

cnulan said...

I find it interesting that the response to 3 of the most recognizable black men on the planet is purported to be "disinterest" and "indifference".

"recognizable" connotes mind share on the grid, has no bearing whatsoever on mind share in my head...,

Anonymous said...

Any way Pele , Ali then Michael Jackson are the three most recognizable brother's on the planet. Get your factoids correct brother!

Anonymous said...

Most people on this planet don't own televisions!
By the way, what do/have these black men contributed to the general upliftment/improvement of black people on the planet? Or let me qualify that to black people in America?
Are they role models?
Have they created jobs in the black communities?
Have the raised the "consciousness"
of people of African descent?

Just curious, since I don't really listen to their music, and I only see them on the cover of glitzy entertainment, fashion mags or TV ( I have one which I rarely watch).

DV perhaps you can educate me on the relevance and importance of these guys to my life as a black woman.

Denmark Vesey said...

"By the way, what do/have these black men contributed to the general upliftment/improvement of black people on the planet? Or let me qualify that to black people in America?"

Name a black man who does contribute to the "upliftment/improvement of black people on the planet"? Accra

__________________ .

"Are they role models?" Accra

Name a role model.

__________________ .


But slow down Sista Accra.

Remember, I am not suggesting you feel anything in particular about these men.

I just asked you WHAT you felt. Not WHY NOT.

The answer seemed to be a resounding "indifference" or "disinterest".

I noted that I find it odd, that such globally recognized icons would generate effectively "no response".

20 posts later, I still find the claim by a group of super smart informed people to be "disinterested" and "indifferent" intellectually dishonest.

Sista Kalena get's big ups though.

She told the truth.

Anonymous said...

DV, you haven't answered my question.
And your question was do they invoke pride or hate. the answer is neither. Indifference!

For black person who contributes to the improvement/upliftment of back people..... many, from Dr. Kwame Nkrumah, to Mr Mensah down the street who runs a community school

role model.....too many to mention....... John Mark from a small village in the Upper East Region of Ghana, 1st person in his village to go to university etc. etc.
Your rappers may also fit all of the profiles stated above, which is why I asked you to educate me on why you think one should feel either pride or hate at the sight of them.

Denmark Vesey said...

"why you think one should feel either pride or hate at the sight of them."
Accra

Didn't say you SHOULD.

I said I find it odd that you don't.

Just as I would find it odd if one said they were "disinterested" in the two young Egyptian sistas I posted below.

The men you mention sound interesting. I would like to learn more about them.

cnulan said...

20 posts later, I still find the claim by a group of super smart informed people to be "disinterested" and "indifferent" intellectually dishonest.

drilling down some;

do you buy and "read" tabloids conveniently placed at every point-of-sale at every grocery store or big box retailer you patronize?

personally, if the line is long, and there's nothing more interesting for my gaze to settle on in the store - I will from time-to-time pick one up and thumb through it looking for the most jarring booby, bikini, or monkey-in-distress photo that I can find, but damned if I've ever given up a cent for one of those rags.

Now those tabloid magazines are more omnipresent and regularly acquire more of my day-to-day mindshare than all three of these individuals combined.

I've never purchased a single piece of any of their workproduct. Never even accidentally watched all of one of their videos, and hells-to-the-gnaw I've never purchased any merchandise peddled under their respective brands or labels.

For all intents and purposes DV - your blog is the only node in my ritual habitual where I'm liable to see anything by, from, or about any one of these individuals.