Friday, May 11, 2007
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Look at Paul, aka, Neyo and TI!
But I'll be honest, I dont know who Andy Young is. I'll google him. - May 11, 2007, 12:06:00 PM
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Basically, Young is implicitly pointing out that American morality has gone down the tube. Ricky and Lucy used to sleep in separate beds. Now, they discuss anal sex on prime time television.
Is that a good thing?
Big J
P.S. I like black panties. - May 11, 2007, 12:40:00 PM
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Robyn...don't start..lol
Andy Young was one of MLK's top confidants during the civil rights movement. He is the former mayor and a lot of people credit him with bringing the Olympics to Atlanta. - May 11, 2007, 12:47:00 PM
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Got it. But I think Young cleaned up the song lyrics a little bit......I dont think it was "show me your black panties," but instead "meet me with your black drawls on."
I swear thats a real song! And see, things arent really so different these days. - May 11, 2007, 12:49:00 PM
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Robyn...you are right...that's exactly what he said...I just didn't remember it since I had never heard the song...but now that you repeated...that is dead on with what he said.
- May 11, 2007, 1:29:00 PM
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I cant listen to the song to verify b/c we use Mac computers at work, but I think this may be a link to the song:
http://www.undergroundhiphop.com/audio/detail.asp?ID=9989
Robyn - May 11, 2007, 1:44:00 PM
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Robyn,
Are you seriously going to tell me that 50 Cent is the same thing as Marvin Gaye??
That's like a date telling you, "baby, you look sexy" versus "baby, take them damn drawls off and get on your knees."
I swear, black women have no self-respect.
Big J - May 11, 2007, 4:28:00 PM
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First, I didnt bring up 50 cent, but I guess we can go with it.
50 may very well be different from Marvin Gaye. But is he really so different from the artist that was telling the woman to meet him with her black drawls on? I dont think so. Or what about Clarence Carter's "I Be Strokin?" Or the song that says, "you aint done nothin till you stand up in it." This shit, way back then, was already sexual.
And of course J, the words are more explicit today, that cannot be denied. But considering the constraints of yester year, talking about a woman's black drawls or "standing up in it" is pretty explicit.
My only point in the hip hop debate is (and always has been) that much of the criticism seems to focus on the symptoms of bigger, older problems that were not at all caused by rap music. Nothing more.
Lastly, dont challenge my self-respect b/c I am one of few who 1) is HONEST about what is entertaining to me......(I got 10 emails about what a hypocrit you are praising 2 Pac "as the greatest of all time" while virtually condemning the whole damn genre.); 2) have enough about me to know that anything I did or didnt achieve was a function of how much preparation I engaged in and not the freakin music I listened to; and 3) have the sense to resist the "all or nothing" "hate it or love it" bandwagon that is the current critique of rap music.
You can dump that self-respect shit on someone else. - May 11, 2007, 4:48:00 PM
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And now that I think about it, didnt you just say you were at a Ghost Face concert?.....yeah, no sex, violence or drugs at that show.
GTFOOH, J! - May 11, 2007, 4:51:00 PM
I went to Andy Young's 75 birthday celebration on Sunday and everyone was there from President Clinton to Ludacris. I found it refreshing at the end when Andy Young praised Hip Hop. To loosely paraphrase him, he said, "It's a great thing that these young people have found a way to make money out of poverty, struggle and pain. The hip hop industry has contributed over 1 Billion to the economy of Atlanta. Yes I don't agree with everything they rap about but my mother also didn't like when I sang songs with lyrics such as 'show me your black panties."