cats crack me up.
will their little Hip Hop Conspiracy Theories.
lol.
You know ...
'Hip Hop was diss ... till dey did dat.
Den dis happened and dat happened
den diss happened and dat happened.
Rap was diss. Den it was datt.
Rap used to talk about diss. Now it talks about dat.
It was 'Fight Duh Powah' now it's "Deez Niggas Won't Hold Me Back'.
We wuzzz ready to burn this mother down! ... Now all we talking about is making money and gettin' ho's!
I've been hearing versions of this conversation for 30 years.
The Hegelian Headfake, the Left v Right dialectic expressed as "Conscious" Rap vs. "Get Money" Rap.
Plebeian Thought Police minimizing the totality of art to a sum of its parts.
"Dat rapper is TALKING about this."
"Dat rapper is TALKING about dat."
Rap is a collection of "talk" like a painting is a collection of "paint".
"Conscious" rappers always have a conspiracy theory to explain their failure.
It's never that they got boring. It's never that they failed to evolve. It's never that they were simply goody two shoe preachers rapping over a beat.
It's always some white folks secretly empowering their competitors.
Some white people somewhere secretly deciding to support Cash Money Millionaires while sabotaging the careers of X Clan.
The reality is that "Everyday I'm Hustlin'" is a far more revolutionary track than "Fight The Power".
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Even the little boy groks this so-called evolution....,
Lmao. I hear you, DV.
I don't necessarily think all of what he's saying are conspiracy theories. I believe that record execs do dictate what their employees say...
BUT...
"It's never that they got boring. It's never that they failed to evolve. It's never that they were simply goody two shoe preachers rapping over a beat."
I can dig that. I can't blame white people for the decisions I make as a man, nor the consequences of my decisions. If I don't wanna rap about ass and titties, cool. But no one is obligated to pay or promote me because I'm "conscious." Moreover, his argument is looking anorexic in this digital era. Record a mixtape and put it on Datpiff.com. If they feel you, they'll download.
I mean, that's what this 17 year old cat did...and plenty more will do so as well.
He has a classic flow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51e1gIkzHgk
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Yet Hip Hop is the only one with reflector shields rendering it impenetrable to people with bigger money and bigger objectives? Corruption permeates through everything else but Hip Hop is “protected by the red, the black and the green?” Come on DV that list is your CV.
Hip Hop has always spoken about big bucks and big butts. The problem is when you kill variation; when you give the impression there’s some phantom demographic requesting the same song every 15 minutes on various stations.
“Most of you can't even comprehend what I am saying
to you even in my human form the message I'm relaying
Why do you choose to mimic these wack MC's?
Why do you choose to listen to R&B?
Why must you believe somethin’ is phat
Just because it's played on the radio, 20 times per day?”
- Pharaoh Monch
It only takes two decades to engineer a new generation of zombified, Kentucky fried, self-serving genocide, “left hook Clyde” primates.
As Reginald C. Dennis said that McDonalds is already paying rappers to name check hamburgers.
Come on DeeVee, Ronald McDonald is savvy enough to exploit Hip Hop but the Department of Defense & CoIntelPro, with their psyop projects since the 50s, are still stuck on antiquated anti-communist ads?
“Hip Hop Conspiracy Theories”
Medical Industry Conspiracy Theories
Eugenics Conspiracy Theories
Prison Industrial Complex Conspiracy Theories
Global Warming Conspiracy Theories
Public Education Conspiracy Theories
Drug War Conspiracy Theories
Vaccination Conspiracy Theories
Fluoridated Water Conspiracy Theories
Corporate Media Conspiracy Theories
Department of Defense Conspiracy Theories
GMO Conspiracy Theories
Hollywood Conspiracy Theories
rotflmbao...,
DeeVee
DeeVee
DeeVee!
See if The Doc has his medical bag and smelling salts
GCV done knocked DeeVee clean dafuq out!!!
I agree with your point 100%....but I disagree with your final example, but it actually further proves your point.
Between the first and second album, Public Enemy actually got BETTER. Musically for sure, they got more complex and more commercial at the same time. The result was the most successful explicitly political pop band maybe ever. Until they self-destructed. But they actually focused on making appealing music. Most "concious" cats can't rap and refuse to make music that makes you want to dance. What's the point of that?
"Conscious Rap vs Get Money Rap"
Conscious rap? Like Mos said he’s never seen anyone rap while they're unconscious.
The audience created these "versus"categories not the artists.
“Conscious rappers” Jay Electronica and Stic did ghost writing for "money rap" Nas.
Get Money Rap? They all get money. Run DMC, Public Enemy and Beastie Boys crossed rap over via Def Jam.
Where's "get money rappers" Schoolly D, MC Ren, Mase, Master P, Too $hort et cetera. You cite has-been "conscious rappers" yet forget the principle applies to all rappers, rock, blues, jazz artists. As my man Muhammad Ollie argues that Miles made trash music in the 80's. A milk carton isn't the only thing with an expiration date.
But these "money rappers" rhymes didn't last, their message didn't stand, their fan base weren't loyal. 30, 20, 10 years later nobody's preserving their legacy. White kids today worship MF Doom while claiming Lil' Wayne isn't even rap. Huey and Hampton 40 years from now? Probably not.
Imagine Basquiat ranting about what brand paint he used for his work. Would that make his work any more significant?
No.
It’s Basquiat that made his work significant not the brand of paint. If anything he would make the brand of paint significant.
Rap artists, like white people, are entitled to speak on any level about anything whether it’s “goody two shoes preaching” or conspicuous consumption.
If “conscious rap” is KRS1 talking about processed beef, then Mike Adams the Health Ranger does “conscious writing.”
David Duke can speak the truth but if Chuck repeats it he’s being uppity. Alex Jones talks about NWO but Immortal Technique should be talking about making money.
Edward Bernays taught America to eat ham & eggs for breakfast while in 1990, A Tribe Called Quest untaught black youth to eat ham & eggs for breakfast. I didn’t learn that from the Kitchen & Home queen Martha, I learned that from black youth from Queens.
But they should stay in the nigga section and discuss making money. White folks teaching the same thing is education but when black youth do it they’re "goody two shoes preaching?" I don’t know ‘bout that D.
"Conscious" rappers always have a conspiracy theory to explain their failure.” LOL and Jimmy Iovine is just a figment of our imagination.
The fact is TPTB don’t need to sit in the same room or in a teleconference to conspire because they are products of the same “utamawazo” (culturally-structured thought) and the same “utamaroho” (energy source which motivates collective behavior).
The reality is that "Everyday I'm Hustlin'" is a far more revolutionary track than "Fight The Power". –DV
This is everyday “hustlin” and
ain’t nothing revolutionary about it.
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Channeling Dr. Welsing
“What caused these riots? He said it was young children (motivated by) high self-esteem and an enhanced racial pride. The majority of the rioters were high school dropouts but they had a higher political orientation than their peers who did not drop out… they saw the system as their enemy so they attacked in it the right circumstances.” – Wise Intel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF-mogoaCDs&feature=related
DV.
Damn.
Everytime I read the responses to your posts I think...
Chess. not. checkers.
As the old folks say, if ya don't know then ya don't know...
lol
There is not some white hunchback in a thriller jacket sitting somewhere plotting the annihilation of black people. The same forces that attempt to control hip hop and it's content attempt to control everything--the clothes we wear, the food we eat, what toothpaste we use.
They have the resources to see what is trending and shape public opinion to benefit from it. If tomorrow kneegrows demand to hear intellectual niggas who still wear creased fitteds and SouthPole jackets, we will see that same nigga on MTV tomorrow.
But nah, we exist passively simply responding to every shitty decision made by a minute sect of the population who never had anyone's interests but theirs in mind. We have embraced the logic of the victim. So we get pissed off anytime someone like that chubby dude with the beard decides to shape his own reality and get paid.
"Uh Uh! Rims AND big booty bitches? Niggas ain't allowed to do that!"
Our aim is to point out how his message is used in an effort to stunt the growth of the black community.
His aim is to be amongst that minute sect of the population who has enough money to not give a single fuck about anyone's interest but theirs.
We point and complain about what went wrong.
He uses that wrong to get right. Or at least what his definition of right is.
If you feel so passionately about the return to positive lyrics, download a mixtape of instrumentals, record a mixtape, and put it on the net. Don't download or support the whack shit. Hand out free positive music. Send that nigga in the video donations for a new fitted.
Telling me people aim to shape our values for their benefit is like telling me people are generally born with two buttcheeks. I hear you, but don't get your point. Do you think the dude in the Thriller jacket is gonna come give you reparations?
So we get pissed off anytime someone like that chubby dude with the beard decides to shape his own reality and get paid.
lol@"shape his own reality and get paid"
every single lyric without exception on that album was ghostwritten by somebody else
every single beat and hook on that album was cut and pasted by somebody else
how over the hill fanboys suspend disbelief to pretend that william leonard roberts II shaped a dayyum thang beyond the size of his waistline is purest comedy gold
Nigerians seem not to appreciate the agitprop end to which the Lagos version of this hot-slop is being put.
Can't wait to read the DeeVee spin on this phony in light of the DeeVee spin on Kony....,
Speaking for myself Agüeybaná I’m no more bothered by Rick & Wayne getting theirs than I am about Pat Sajak or RuPaul getting theirs. What is for them is for them, not for me. I’m the kind of person that doesn’t believe someone’s gain cuts into my piece of the pie. However if the convo is about Pat & Ru's significance in the art of Hip Hop, then yes, I got a little sumth’n to interject. I could care less about George Lucas’ film Redtails but when the convo becomes about how empowering it is to support his movie, and what it does for black folks, then yes I got sumth’n to say. It's not directed at George Lucas getting paid or making a come up but only the context of that convo.
I support Jay Elect, MF Doom, Shabazz Palaces etc. Not because I want to show support with my dollar or because they represent positive lyrics or a conceptual vote for them to win over the airwaves but because I enjoy their art. There are people who I support with my dollar, that are outside of music who I feel are making a significant impact on society, changing minds, clearing confusion, establishing a code of ethics, assisting the poor, challenging injustice. I do support them financially and spiritually. But its not about all of that, its about the subject of a blog post.
@ CNU. I feel you, kinda.
You don't think his choice to participate in the process of appearing to be a credible street dude would qualify as him shaping his own reality to get paid? Yea, they're writing his script, but he's acting it out to the t, and cashing checks for his performance.
@ GCV. I cosign your taste in music.
DV, it don't matter what they talkin bout. A lot of these new "conscious" rappers are just as corny. It all boils down to the fact that Hip Hop in 2012 is TRASH! Shit's been trash for over a decade. DV, your transition into this 2k trash amazes me. I can't understand how the hell you can listen to this watered down Hip Hop when you're older than me and was listening to the good shit. LOL
I thought I was gettin old, because I aint feelin any of it. The off beat flows, weak punchlines, or fools tryin to sing. The beats are even worse! They're fuckin ATROCIOUS!! Over produced, electronica/techno pop shit that sounds like a fuckin video game. Listen to that trash that was playing every day last year "Look At Me Now" with Chris Brown-- All those beeps and blip sounds. The shit sounded like some R2-D2 Star Wars production. I need soul samples, or some G-Funk shit! I can't vibe to any of this 2k trash!
The lyrics and flow are weak, and the beats are just noise. Shit almost sounds like pots and pans smashing together to me. Top that all off with the overall corny way that Hip Hop is presented now. I couldn't even imagine being presented with this new shit back when I was a teenager. Frohawks, smedium sized shirts, skinny jeans, skateboarding and listening to some nigga talkin bout he a goblin. LMAO!!! I'd probably laugh and say Hip Hop was for faggots!
Yeah, in 2012 I say FUCK HIP HOP!!
It's all old school shit for me. :D
The number ONE problem with hip hop conspiracy theories is...IT'S HIP HOP!
It's a music that the ENTIRE MUSIC INDUSTRY hated and ignored...and it still took over the business.
Kids sold it out of their trunks. It's the personification of not being able to stop an idea whose time has come.
So if your record has no audience...maybe it's the record.
You don't think his choice to participate in the process of appearing to be a credible street dude would qualify as him shaping his own reality to get paid? Yea, they're writing his script, but he's acting it out to the t, and cashing checks for his performance.
I see your point and concur to exactly the same extent as John Holmes shaped his own reality to get paid, acting it out to the t, and cashing checks for his performance.
Matter fact, beyond the radically autonomous individual and audience reality-shaping, I'd say that the industry in which he's greater than langston hughes and more relevant than _________________ is identical in every significant regard to the porn industry, as well.
That pertains to recruitment, production, distribution, profit, and the essential nature of the product itself.
What the big booby boss does is every bit as much art as what John Holmes used to do until he died of AIDS.
@ CNU.
Porn industry? Excellent analogy.
I feel you. Same side of the same coin.
Some women say a female porn star is a filthy whore, while others may point out that she is simply manipulating public interest and traditional ideas of women to get hers. Is it her responsibility to take into account the impact of her acts on the perception of women, or to...simply get hers? I'm all ears if someone feels they have a definitive answer to that one...
DV, have you heard this (LUPE - Food Liquor II). I bet you won't make one post giving props to this brotha because he doesn't fit into your propaganda.
Uncle Tom, kiddie pool ass nicca....you're so colonized it's ridiculous.
Money can't save your soul....you're trying to beat the devil at his own game.
Yea Rick Ross is a great actor and Weezy's songs bang but you need to ask yourself the same question Kanye asked himself, "Why everything that's supposed to bad make me feel so good?" Head fake shawty.
Lupe may be a lil' too corny for you....ok, fine.....propagate some 2Pac then.....he had a method to his madness that every intellectual should respect.
MY ANALYSIS:
I was originally going to credit the brother for at least having the courage to acknowledge the problem with (what I call) "Hip Hop Voice Of The Street Pirate".
Then he did something that was highly counter productive which destroyed everything: HE DID A GRAND TRANSFERENCE.
Instead of us looking at the "Negro with the Mic in his hand" - we should indict the PRODUCERS AND RECORD COMPANIES for telling the artists that they are only interested in songs in which "A Ninja Got Kilt".
I should come as no surprise that a "Street Corner Pharmacist" who is wise to the game and what is happening to HIS PEOPLE would agree to go for the LOOT and vocalize the "Serial Klan Lynchings" that far too many artists engage in.
Shouldn't BLACK CONSCIOUS RAP consist of THOSE WHO BUCKED THE SYSTEM?
Shouldn't the evidence of UNCONSCIOUS CONSUMERS be made by listening to the LYRICS and then noting which of these artists have a Platinum or Gold record on their wall?
To me it is IRRELEVANT that the majority of these unconscious consumers are WHITE. This consumer imbalance was the same during the original Minstrel show. Did WE give credit to the stage acts because they packed the White folks in?
"Slow paper is better than no paper
fast money don't last too long..."
-Lil Wayne
Seems that Weezy knows exactly what he's doing. He seems to KNOW that most of the time he's just selling shit to suckers dumb enough to buy it.
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