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ed said... - Damn, I saw her when they put her face on when Obama spoke at the DNC and wished everyone forgot about her.
- This picture perfectly represents the sad, pathetic notion in our community to find a hero and a savior instead of looking within ourselves.
- Notice all of the energy and ki in this picture relying on an external factor instead of the energy of self-reliance and self-love - a picture is worth a thousand words
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that dude said...
- They didn't want to give women the vote because voting is power. Voting acknowledges you are a member of society, and not property.
Denmark Vesey said ...
I hear you Dude.
I hear you.
But it sounds like you are just parroting old cliches.
Voting ... EQUALS ... Power?
Come on man. In what country? Enough with the Black History Month Mantras and the Civil Rights Affirmations. What is this? 1975?
Where in the WORLD does voting = power??
Black people LOST POWER since we exchange our political and economic aspirations of independence and self sufficiency for the promise of free rides and social entitlements parceled out by the Democratic party while they tirelessly defend us from the big ol' bad white Republican party.
This woman is not engaged in an electoral process. She is engaged in a process of salvation.
She, like too many Black people, is too easily taken advantage of emotionally.
To control the masses of Black people in America all you have to do is promise them some slight and meaningless "One Up" against "white folks".
"Better vote fo Obama cuz dey don't want no bwak man tuh have 2 terms! George Bush wasn't shit either and he got 2 terms! Why can't Obama ha' 2 terms!"
Obama could drop a nuclear bomb on Africa ... and if the news tells black people white Americans don't want Obama in office ... they would vote to reelect him every time.
HEGELIAN HEAD FAKE.
Obama and Romney are THE SAME candidate.
Dude, it takes more love and kindness to expect political maturity from this woman than it does to just look the other way and chalk up her nonsensical emotional display as understandable because she is old and a mother.
What if Harriet Tubman had her attitude?
She would have been leading escaped slaves SOUTH.
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Now see...if I weren't so embarrassed, annoyed, and disappointed by the spectacle of idiotic Negroes being moved to the point of snot and tears by the Fraud-in-Chief I might be mad with you for that comment. But seeing as you are right about that old ass woman who should know better, I won't hold it against you.
There she is!!
CBW!
Hey. Long time.
Nah sister. Forgive me.
You know I'm just playin'.
There are just as many women capable of intelligent political discourse as there are men.
(small numbers on both sides)
Which begs the question ... is Universal Suffrage really in the best interest of the people?
Do ignorant people hurt themselves with the vote?
Are dumb muhfuggas suckered into consenting to things not in their interest when 'given' the vote?
Maybe the Founding Fathers were onto something.
Maybe only Property Owners ... or in today's case ... people in Private Business ... be allowed to vote.
If you allow the intentionally dumbed down masses of wage slaves to vote ... all they are going to do is reinforce the system that enslaves them.
The woman in the photo above ...
What you think she's crying about?
US Foreign Policy?
The Federal Reserve system?
The obesity epidemic?
Where is Marcus Garvey when you need him?
I disagree with CBW and DV.
The Black American has no legitimate ORGANIC REPOSITORY to invest her/his "BLACK COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HOPES". We have fused our consciousness into the "False Religion Of Black Americanism".
The void in Black Community Governance and "Institutional Integrity has allowed an army of EMBEDDED CONFIDENCE MEN, employed by WHITE CORPORATIONS to position themselves into the key turrets of our community and spout a message that is fundamentally AGAINST our development.
Its goal is to affirm the present consciousness, biases and resentments that are contained within.
If you notice how they are hiring an abundance of "Paid Blacks" in the media to run point.
At a time of great crisis within the Black community no one is going back to 1965 and rethinking the strategy of "VOTING FOR OUR SALVATION".
The White Progressive Cheshire Fox Ally has us where he wants us: Agreeing to host "The Black Agenda" on MSNBC rather than CSPAN.
They didn't want to give women the vote because voting is power. Voting acknowledges you are a member of society, and not property.
LOL @ pic. She's probably saying " Praise Jesus" or "Thank the LAWD".lol
That picture could easily be me if Ron Paul won and started work on abolishing the Federal Reserve...
Damn, I saw her when they put her face on when Obama spoke at the DNC and wished everyone forgot about her.
This picture perfectly represents the sad, pathetic notion in our community to find a hero and a savor instead of look within ourselves.
Notice all of the energy and ki in this picture relying on an external factor instead of the energy of self-reliance and self-love - a picture is worth a thousand words
Wow, lot of hate for a older woman, probably somebody's mother, who is still politically engaged and is fighting for her world. You may not not agree with her choice of weapons, but I suspect she's making more of a difference in the world than the keyboard revolutionaries with the snarky comments.
that dude,
If she is a mother, she is an embarrassment for her children, that's for sure.
Most likely, she fits the profile of the typical Black woman who believed in everything except herself...
[quote]Wow, lot of hate for a older woman, probably somebody's mother, who is still politically engaged and is fighting for her world. You may not not agree with her choice of weapons, but I suspect she's making more of a difference in the world than the keyboard revolutionaries with the snarky comments.[/quote]
That Dude:
I have been listening to "Black Wing Grievance Talk Radio" all week long with regard to the Chicago Teacher Strike.
DOCUMENT THIS WEEK as the first time I heard BLACK PEOPLE argue that:
Teachers of BLACK AND HISPANIC KIDS (88% of the school system) should not be held up to the same standards as SUBURBAN SCHOOL SYSTEM because these children of color are EMOTIONALLY DAMAGED by the VIOLENCE AND KILLING that they see in their communities.
******
Digest that for a second, "that dude".
Previously we heard stories about the Black child who watched as his father was LYNCHED BY THE KLAN.
I ever watched an interview yesterday from Rev Dr Durley (Atlanta Civil Rights) in which he had a store clerk in TN slap him upside the head for trying on a skull cap in the department store in the 1960's and putting it back on the rack because it didn't fit.
TODAY we have those who seek to put upon themselves the cloak of CIVIL RIGHTS, yet instead of having an EXTERNAL force to indict - they tell the world - UNTIL YOU STOP US NEGROES FROM KILLING OURSELVES you can't judge us as EQUALS.
I don't have a problem with this lady.
THIS LADY'S EMOTIONS and SPIRIT has been CHANNELED into a repository that IS NOT MEANT TO DEVELOP BLACK PEOPLE!!!!
PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its job is to FEED BLACK PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR so that this present consciousness is MAINTAINED because it is APPEASED.
They are NOT GOING TO CHALLENGE THE PRESENT BLACK CONSCIOUSNESS, forcing it to REALIGN ITSELF with the PAINFUL TRUTH that is present on the streets of our community, PISSING IT OFF until it NO LONGER WISHES TO CARRY THE WATER for OUTSIDE FORCES and the DEAD BODIES OF BLACK PEOPLE because we have LOST OUR DAMNED MINDS and the CONSCIOUSNESS that goes along with it.
YOU NEED TO GO EXPOSE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN USING THIS LADY, asking why they never taught her to read a FINANCIAL STATEMENT so she could determine her RETURN ON INVESTMENT and then say:
"If you all don't show me where the VALUABLES THAT I INVESTED WENT TO - I AM GOING TO BUST A CAP IN ALL OF YOUR ASSES so you know not to take advantage of any other old Black ladies. !!!!!"
When you can "vote yourself to death" then you know you've reached a state of radical autonomy.
And so the "liberated" black collective absolutely covets its right to vote itself to death.
I would cry and snot myself too if I were to come to that realization.
Most women did NOT want the vote when it was first proposed by the first suffragists of the 1800's. The women pushing for it were the wives of the wealthy and powerful, who were sitting at home, feeling idle...whereas the other women, the women of the working classes, were enjoying raising their kids, teaching them, seeing them learn good personal ethics, and enjoying the protections afforded by NOT having to go out into a coal mine and get black lung or die in a factory fire or get beaten by the boss like her husband. Go back and check the history, you'll see that's the case. Likewise, there was STILL a large number of women in the 1900's when universal suffrage was passed that were still adamantly opposed to it--they rightly recognized that women already had an enormous amount of power, which they exercised through control of a man's children, his ability to have a legacy, and through control of the household and, frequently, the home budget--regardless of hubby's social standing. We've bought into a ridiculous myth that only the OVERT power of institutions are real and that the COVERT or indirect power of women, yesterday AND today, doesn't really count--or that it didn't and doesn't exist. Thus we believe a false narrative of universal female oppression at the hands of men that simply has never been the case. We've been made to forget too much. Same way that when the first public education laws were passed requiring children to be schooled in State schools, there were routinely riots--by the working class parents. They knew what the real deal was, the price they were going to have to pay in terms of family unity, true community and the fostering of self-reliance and loyalty to self, family and immediate community into their kids--but we've forgotten.
Now the family's are broken, mostly fathers and mothers both have to work...leaving the kids to be indoctrinated by the State and Corporations...through the schools, the TV and the internet, which gets more time with the kids than the parents do.
"IF Voting Alone Made A Difference They Wouldn't Allow It To Be Free" - Said a Black Revolutionary from the 1960's
Constructive Feedback says......
If the Negroes in West Philly focused more on governing their community and the people within it - they could save several hundred millions of dollars in car insurance premiums as their rate of car theft would dramatically decrease from their more focused attention on what IS HARMING THEM THE MOST.
http://withintheblackcommunity.blogspot.com/2012/08/filled-negro-says-and-constructive.html
"If the Negroes in West Philly focused more on " CF
Bra.
You often speak like there is either:
a) there is a black collective
b) that black collective isn't functioning as it could
&
c) if that black collective thought and functioned according to some strategy you seem to be aware ... but they don't seem to be aware ... this collective of blacks / negroes would ascend from point A to point B.
Is that right?
Because I told you years ago.
THERE.
IS.
NO.
BLACK.
COLLECTIVE.
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If there is ... it exists on line.
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and I'm the Blackest Man on the Internet.
If a white woman with blonde hair and blue eyes was replaced by this woman who could very well be y'all's aunt it would not illicit such a response.
Anonymous HaitianChick said...
If a white woman with blonde hair and blue eyes was replaced by this woman who could very well be y'all's aunt it would not illicit such a response.
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...?
1) Why not?
2) So what?
HaitianChick...
In my internet circles, taking away female suffrage is a hot topic of discussion.
If this black granny was "white," it would be even MORE pathetic.
I don’t know why y’all being so hard on this elderly sister when the “Butcher of Libya” is polling 95 percent of the Black vote—women, men, young, old, north, south, east and west.
No one suggested that men be denied the right to vote after this infamous display of crocodile tears:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=TSyzZCDhJCA&NR=1
Here's what we agree upon.
THERE IS NO BLACK COLLECTIVE.
Black folks have never been this much at odds with each other in American history.
By gender, by education, by economic class, by region...black folks can find very little to be in agreement about.
So people blame other people. Little old ladies who get emotional. Rappers with tatoos on their faces. Black men who wear dresses for profit. Black women who fight each other on TV for fame. Black people who vote for Obama. Black people who don't vote for Obama.
Everyone spits on the Civil Rights coalition because its out of date, but no one tries to construct a credible 21st century model of a truly diverse black community.
One that allows for a wide range of opinion but but can still create an agenda most folks agree upon and actually make things happen.
What does that look like?
That Dude, don't you think the Civil Rights coalition was out of date when it first began? It was the preferred alternative of the overlords. Any landlord would settle with painting the walls and shampooing the carpet over a complete renovation of a home.
Growing [United Nation] movements such as the Panthers, A.I.M, the Red Guard, the Yellow Peril, the Brown Berets, the Young Patriots etc. means that people were beginning to work outside of Dems and Reps.
Martin Luther King was one of those Negroes that wasn't exactly on board when it came to being silent about unjust wars while other leaders were so concerned about not rocking the boat for black progress. That was division, b/c opportunists will always split from what they see no benefit in. Moral capital is the only unifying principle black people should be focusing on.
Like what was said, "Obama could drop a nuclear bomb on Africa ... and if the news tells black people white Americans don't want Obama in office ... they would vote to reelect him every time."
"We" place aesthetic before content. The same older Negroes that said rap music wasn't about shyt back in the day, are now crying and voting for a Negro that identifies with some pseudo-thug that got a song "99 problems but a bytch ain't one." That tells me they were never tripping on immorality, it's just subordinate Negroes can't accept something until government sanctions it's authenticity.
I respect the elderly, we should buy their groceries, run errands for them etc. but when it comes to politics, those that think in "techni-colored", sit them down in front of an episode of Matlock and "the stories."
ALL OF MY PROFESSORS are making "that face," and none of them are Negro-American<<<<<< I was told that's my race, lol.
H. Rap Brown foresaw the pitfalls of electoral politics back in 1968.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfJFcGzXNr4&feature=related
As I’ve previously stated: Until the American body politic breaks the monopoly which the corrupt two-party system has on its mind, liberation from the tyranny of the oligarchic psychopathocracy is not only unachievable, it’s unthinkable.
I’m taking the same position Dr. Du Bois took in 1956. Mrs. Fannie Lou Hamer did not get beaten in the Winona jail, and Mrs. Viola Liuzzo did not get killed on Highway 80 in Alabama for me to choose between injustice and immorality in this presidential election.
[In 1956, I shall not go to the polls. I have not registered. I believe that democracy has so far disappeared in the United States that no "two evils" exist. There is but one evil party with two names, and it will be elected despite all I can do or say.
Is the refusal to vote in this phony election a counsel of despair? No, it is dogged hope. It is hope that if twenty-five million voters refrain from voting in 1956 because of their own accord...this might make the American people ask how much longer this dumb farce can proceed without even a whimper of protest.
Democracy is dead in the United States. Yet there is still nothing to replace real democracy. Drop the chains, then, that bind our brains.]
http://blackagendareport.com/content/why-i-wont-vote-1956
@ Gee Chee. Your most recent comment was the realest shit I've read in a while.
[quote]Black folks have never been this much at odds with each other in American history.
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That Dude:
PROVE IT??
BY WHAT MEANS does this EXPRESS ITSELF?
If we look at "The Black Racial Services Machine" - the loosely coupled co-conspiring agents of Progressive-Fundamentalist thought (especially the Black Media) they have achieved a FANATICAL LEVEL OF SUPPORT for the "Malcolm X Political Football Game" on behalf of the PROGRESSIVES. This as they walk past the truth about WHO is in dominate control over our communities during our time of "Dis-Unity" - as you claim.
If you said that the RESULTS achieve by various factions of Black people in America are more stratified then ever - this would be closer to the truth.
My push back is that the Black Racial Services Machine HAS NOT been pushing for MORE EQUALIZED RESULTS THROUGH (key qualifier is "THROUGH") the institutions of the Black Community. They want the EXTERNAL GOVERNMENT to assign an artificially high MINIMUM LIVING STANDARD upon which every Negro would be afforded a GOOD LIFE - this as they look past the fatal abstraction: THE SCHEME DOES NOT DEPEND ON HIM ACQUIRING COMPETENCIES that would allow him to live at such a standard. It ONLY requires his LOYALTY that - if he stays compliant and continues STRUGGLING for Political Power - he might one day receive it.
(This question is a pretext to my rebuttal of my dear friend DV's claim that "There Is No 'Black Collective' " - see next post.
Brother DV:
Your framing of the "Search For The Negro Collective" is irrelevant.
I can point you to:
* The Car Manufacturer Collective
* The Sugary Beverage Collective
* The Computers and Telecommunications Collectives................
and point out a LOOSE COUPLING OF INDIVIDUALS who came together to PRODUCE VALUE IN THE MARKET PLACE, apply their GOD GIVEN INTELLIGENCE toward a productive end, received the intake of SALARY and HEALTH CARE BENEFITS.
I agree that just as much as "There Is No Genetic Basis For 'Race' ", it is also true that "There Is No 'Black Community' ".
This does not dislodge the fact that individuals and institutions SEE "Black People" and they use their associated view of Black people to TREAT the BLACK INDIVIDUAL as they do other Blacks and thus an "EXPRESSED GROUPISM" is constructed.
If the Klan was chasing after 3 Negroes that they say assaulted a White women - INSTEAD of walking past you because they know you had nothing to do with it - DV - YOU would receive a fist to the back of your head, in kind.
Likewise - INTERNAL to the Black Community the BLACK RACIAL SERVICES MACHINE is expert at bundling BLACK GRIEVANCES and packaging them for SALVATION AND HEALING in the "American Political Domain".
There is no mandate that you go along with them. HOWEVER if your voice, as a Black man, is heard calling them out and demanding that they STOP USING BLACK PEOPLE - rest assured that your "BLACKNESS" would trigger them to execute the "Group Shunning And Attack" process that you will suffer - even though you never signed any membership documents.
Ironically, the solution to your "No Black Collective" claim is to forge A COLLECTIVE around something other than RACE!!!!
* A Nation Of Your Own
* A Corporation
* A Religion
are 3 constructs that groups of individuals have voluntarily aligned themselves within as a means of LEVERAGING the benefit of COLLECTIVE ECONOMICS.
My argument is that the so called "Black American Community" needs to do more to STOP BEING HIJACKED - being called INFERIOR (or The Least Of These) so that those who FAILED TO DEVELOP US over time - after taking our VOTES - can sell our inferiority and damaged state in the next election at hand - so that they can gain more power - all without developing us. They only need to keep BLACK PEOPLE LIVING VICARIOUSLY THROUGH THEIR POLITICAL POWER in order them to remain standing tall.
You feel that Agüeybaná?
By its very nature an empire is corrosive. In hindsight if people preserved a tradition of building families and communities, that would've been far more advantageous than wagering everything on phantom positions of power.
Voting didn't obtain the right to vote, a unified front obtained the right to vote. That says were the ultimate power exists.
Imagine if they made hip-hop unlawful during its inception. That law would not be overwhelmed or turned around by voting against it, it would've been turned around by the numbers that continued to actively participate and make money. Eventually that law would've turned turn into an archaic embarrassing brown stain in history. The books would tell us that democracy prevailed, as if it's some entity activated by the people when they participate in the electoral process; in reality it was about a handful of wealthy wannabe-immortals that couldn't convince the masses to believe in their godhood.
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