Monday, January 16, 2012

Were Martin Luther King Jr. Here Today ... He Would Smack Barack Obama ... And Endorse Ron Paul

“I am convinced that if we are to get on the right side of the world revolution, we as a nation must undergo a radical revolution of values. We must rapidly begin the shift from a "thing-oriented" society to a "person-oriented" society. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, materialism, and militarism are incapable of being conquered... The choice is ours, and though we might prefer it otherwise we must choose in this crucial moment of human history.”
                                    - Martin Luther King, Jr., “Beyond Vietnam,” 1967

17 comments:

sakredkow said...

Why should we think RP is "person-oriented"? I thought he was "property-oriented".

"When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people..."

Denmark Vesey said...

Why should we think RP is "person-oriented"?

Because he would kill "less persons" than Barack Obama.

that dude said...

No, he would not.

CNu said...

RP is exclusively property-oriented - and - his instant cuts to the domestic social safety nets would kill exponentially more Americans in one year than in all the current foreign drone-wars combined.

cadeveo said...

I think there is this undercurrent in libertarian thinking, an Achilles Heel, where they believe that as soon as government is out of the way, folks will wake up, come out of the trance and automatically start doing for self--the pressure of "sink or swim" will cause millions to remember how to swim--or learn on the fly. Maybe. But I doubt it. I'd like to believe in it, but there has been 100+years of conditioning people of all socioeconomic classes (except the one on top of the pyramid scheme), races and ethnicities to dependency, ignorance, addictions (of various kinds--mental slavery)and simultaneous worship and fear of authorities (with much misdirection and/or suppression of the hatred this breeds towards each other). This mentality has been inculcated for generations--to think that it will take less than decades, forget "years" to reinculcate the self-sufficiency that's been lost is...naive at best. A whole lot more will sink than will swim and so, while RP is definitely NOT the guy the PTB are backing in the fixed horse race, he just might serve (some) of their purposes in spite of himself, were he elected. I'd like to hope not, but I'm not holding my breath. (The best thing about RP is that he keeps the peace message and the liberties message in the mix.)

Then again, the part of the Pavlov's Dog story they don't teach you is that when Pavlov's laboratory was hit by a flood, all those dogs that had been conditioned to salivate to the ringing of his bell, no longer retained the old conditioned response... Huge events can wipe out imprints...thing is, they leave most of us open to re-imprinting...the question is who will be waiting there, ready to install the new, better imprint--the individual standing in the middle of the sh**storm or...the same old guys at the top of the pyramid?

--Resident ambivalent libertarian

Denmark Vesey said...

"RP is exclusively property-oriented - and - his instant cuts to the domestic social safety nets would kill exponentially more Americans in one year than in all the current foreign drone-wars combined."

LOL

Technocratic silliness.

Bureaucratic fear mongering.

wow.

As if the government keeps people alive.

CNu said...

lol,

This respect thing is waaaaay over-rated.

It's about time I start putting my foot waaaay up in a jiggaboo's stupid ass again...,

CNu said...

there has been 100+years of conditioning people of all socioeconomic classes (except the one on top of the pyramid scheme), races and ethnicities to dependency, ignorance, addictions (of various kinds--mental slavery)and simultaneous worship and fear of authorities (with much misdirection and/or suppression of the hatred this breeds towards each other). This mentality has been inculcated for generations--to think that it will take less than decades, forget "years" to reinculcate the self-sufficiency that's been lost is...naive at best.

cadaveo is truth.

stoopid muhphuggah's "naive" handwaving notwithstanding...,

dogman said...

lol

"social safety nets" = crutches that keep people handicapped

Like feeding wild bears pizzas until they die of bloating

johnny horton said...

take welfare away from niggers and they'll die like bloated somali brats.

Denmark Vesey said...

"I think there is this undercurrent in libertarian thinking, an Achilles Heel, where they believe that as soon as government is out of the way, folks will wake up, come out of the trance and automatically start doing for self" Cadeveo


Ummm ...

That's interesting Cadev

I see it differently though.

I see the flaw in Plantation negro / cracka reasoning that believes one can ever get more out of the "government" ... than one puts in.





"Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. ... We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting people to eat because we do not want the state to raise the grain."
-- Frédéric Bastiat, The Law, 1849

Denmark Vesey said...

CNu said...

"lol, This respect thing is waaaaay over-rated."


However you want to play it fat boy.

Chubby Jigaboos with tits never feel respected anyway.

Denmark Vesey said...

dogman said...

lol

"social safety nets" = crutches that keep people handicapped




Finally.

Cat with some balls.

Tell 'em about it dog.

Denmark Vesey said...

Anonymous johnny horton said...

"take welfare away from niggers and they'll die like bloated somali brats."


take welfare away from crackers and they'll die like lice infested Irish trash during the potato famine.

Take "welfare" away from anyone who thinks they need it ... and they will die.

that dude said...

I love it that all government services are reduced to welfare in this silly discussion.

Denmark Vesey said...

Dude.

Name a government "service" (as if government services are free) that the marketplace couldn't provide:

_____________ ?

Currently the US Federal government "employes" 2 Million people.

TwoFuckingMillion people.

DOING WHAT?

Regulating, incarcerating and policing the other 298 million Americans. That's what.

Black Americans need the government the same way slaves needed a an overseer.

What?

What about the Department of Education?

If the Department of Education evaporated tonight ... NOT ONE LESS AMERICAN CHILD would be educated tomorrow.

This negro dependence upon the nanny state has kept our people slaves for decades.

Marcus Garvey was right.

Ultimately, people choose to be slaves.

cadeveo said...

Is the hour this late in the game? How it looks right now: On the one hand, there's the eugenics agenda of the top of the pyramid--ponerological evil reigning over the rest. It's guaranteed that allowing the same playbook and the same direction they're offering through their media puppets, ends up with most of us out of the picture, just enough left over to lick their boots, worship and fear these sociopaths and be energetically vampirized by them. The other situation, breakdown of the control structure (the symbiotic government+corporate beats--the Janus-faced False God of our present age). In this last case scenario, each of us has a choice to sink or swim, but a huge number of us, believing, deep down, no such choice really exists, will drown. Either way, big die out. I don't know that either of these scenarios are winners, even if the latter allows the *hope* that some--maybe enough of us--will wake up, find the others who are awake, and regain something resembling community, self-reliance, non-oppressive culture.

Personally, I tend to think the whole Technocracy, Inc. ideology that's soft-served in the Zeitgeist series of films and by various smart folks is a snakeoil con-job,too. Maybe that's a lack of imagination on my part. Perhaps, it's just an intuition that there's gotta be a better story than any of these options *still* possible to us. But who knows? The hour sure as heck *feels* late...