Monday, December 26, 2011

If Ron Paul Is A Racist Black People Need More Racism

 
 Denmark Vesey said ... 
The main stream media is currently spinning an engineered meme that suggests Ron Paul is a "racist".

This particular 'guilt by association' argument is laughably thin:
Ron Paul is a Libertarian and a conservative.  
Many racists are also Libertarians and conservatives.  
Some of these racists support Ron Paul. 
Ergo: Ron Paul is a racist.

The power elite are experts at controlling the minds of Plantation negros and Plantation Crackas.  Destroying any potential alliance among the proletariat is tragically easy.  The suggestion to Negros that a particular candidate is "racist" triggers a domino like series of memes that renders the Plantation negro incapable of supporting even candidates clearly aligned with his best interest.


Thus while nearly 1 million black people languish in the For-Profit prison system ... a candidate determined to end the government's decades old "War On Drugs" is vilified by the very same people likely to benefit the most from its end.

The funny thing is that the machine propping up Barack Obama represents a level of rabid and virulent racism beyond the diluted and cliched sectarianism of which Ron Paul is impulsively accused.

What's more racist than Bilderberg?  What's more racist than eugenics?  What's more racist than the bombing and killing of brown and black people in Pakistan, Libya, Sudan and Somalia with remote controlled drones?

If Ron Paul is racist, black people need more racism.
Anonymous said...
@Big Mark 243, the gov't regulating everything is the problem.

The whole point of the picture in this post is to point out who's doing the regulating. The abuses you mention are caused by the very gov't regardless of which party is in power. Obama's campaign money came from the regulators. And do you really want people to share with you, or do you want people to take care of you like you are a household pet?

@that dude  - Ron Paul nor anyone else has to do anything for blacks but not violate their lives, liberty, or property.

What is it with us, that we are constantly looking for someone to give us, or take care of us?

And at the same time want to be treated equally and with respect. Blacks should be the most libertarian minded people in this country considering our history here.

How in the hell are blacks going to scream racism and oppression and then without taking a breathe demand that the people we're screaming at feed, clothe, house, educate, medicate, equalize, and legitimize us?

Denmark Vesey said ... 
Wow.  Love this cat!

Dude if you are going to drop through the spot dropping jewels like these ... you gonna need a name.

I aint read a debut like this since Gee Chee Vision burst on the scene.  Good shit.  Big Ups.  Props!

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Big Mark 243 said...

I hear you DV... you make a valid point... my Dad and me would talk about how President Obama ended up with all the money to campaign and where all that came from...

...but my 'objection' to Ron Paul is based not only on the 'memes' that you say are being used to discredit him, but the philosophy that he ascribes to that made me furry my brow... born of a mind that was shaped in a Soviet Union that knew scarcity and oppression that was distinctly Orwellian, she came up with a rather child-like ideal that 'if I can do it, then I don't have to share', and that was whether or not she actually makes the greatest contribution.

If Ron Paul is racist (and I happen to believe that he is) and this derails his candidacy, then those are the breaks. I don't think that deregulation is the way to go, after the abuses that society has had to suffer because of the profit motive already...

that dude said...

I love this site, but your Ron Paul boosterism is a big bore. He's a nutcase who can't even get a meaningful number of nutty white people to back him. And right now, the GOP is a Planter's Mixed Nuts Costco sized can.

Your criticisms of Barack Obama are not an argument FOR Ron Paul. You're not even acknowledging the racist statemtns in his newsletters that he defended in 2001. And how is shutting down the department of education helping black people? Education needs fixing, not ending.

Let's make this simple. Name one thing Ron Paul has done FOR black people. He's been in office for a long time, there's a lot of black people in Texas, what has he done to help us?

Anonymous said...

Big Mark 243,the gov't regulating everything is the problem. The whole point of the picture in this post is to point out who's doing the regulating. The abuses you mention are caused by the very gov't regardless of which party is in power. Obama's campaign money came from the regulators. And do you really want people to share with you, or do you want people to take care of you like you are a household pet?

that dude said...., Ron Paul nor anyone else has to do anything for blacks but not violate their lives, liberty, or property. What is it with us, that we are constantly looking for someone to give us, or take care of us? And at the same time want to be treated equally and with respect. Blacks should be the most libertarian minded people in this country considering our history here. How in the hell are blacks going to scream racism and oppression and then without taking a breathe demand that the people we're screaming at feed, clothe, house, educate, medicate, equalize, and legitimize us?

Constructive Feedback said...

Brother DV:

I agree but let me "formulize" your argument.

It is best to "Extract The Essence Of Racism" and thus focus on the harm directed at Black people.

With this essence - we then must be intellectually honest and apply it upon ALL ATTACKERS of our interests.
Failing to do this is the promotion of "Non-White White Supremacy".

* RACISTS lynched and murdered Black people to keep them in their places at the time
* RACISTS raped Black women in order to impose their notions of male superiority upon them
* RACISTS that had administrative control over Black schools systematically failed them, ensuring that Black people would never apply learned systems of elevation into the desired standard of living
* RACISTS used the issues of health of Black people to destroy our people - separating us from any hopes of realigning our dietary and lifestyle behaviors with that of long, disease-free living

It is my opinion that all men are EQUAL HUMAN BEINGS, each with the same propensities for systematic good and evil.

Too often - those who seek "Black Equality" are unwilling to ascribe the NEGATIVE attributes to our people that make us HUMAN. Instead they blame it all on 400 years of slavery but can't manage to leverage their present control over our COMMUNITY INSTITUTIONS to correct the situation in 6 year old little Black boys and girls that will matriculate into consciousness through these institutions.

The acceptance of BLACK EQUALITY translates into the need for an INTERNAL CHECK AND BALANCE SYSTEM within the Black Community.

(I understand that you don't believe in the 'Black Community' concept. My argument is that people in a virtual community can work collaboratively and achieve competitive advantage over others. THE KOREAN merchants are surely doing it to our people"

Denmark Vesey said...

"* RACISTS lynched and murdered Black people to keep them in their places at the time" CF

No.

Conflated myth.

LYNCHERS lynched black people.

MURDERERS murdered black people.

"Racism" is a boogey man.

a Negro word for "evil".

"Racist" is negro for "The Devil".

Worrying about racism and fearing racists is modern day Plantation Negro fear of the Boogey Man.

CNu said...

lol,

CF and DV so caught up in their respective ritual habituals that neither one of them know what time it is. {props to CF though for finally spitting out the cogent point that amoral, self-dealing negro gatekeepers exploit black identity politics exclusively for personal gain}

Anyway, while y'all rather pointlessly recycle the same tired tropes, the CFR has appointed and begun large-scale promotion of its very own negro to craft and operationalize a controllable framework for the emergent "independent" or third party in America. http://www.cfr.org/experts/world/kahlil-byrd/b10618

Anonymous said...

Worrying about racism and fearing racists is modern day Plantation Negro fear of the Boogey Man.

so true!

CNu said...

That so-called Boogey Man defined and constrained the lives of most black folks in America for 400 years by violence, just ending as a matter of law 40 years ago.

20% is a conservative estimate of the demographic percentage of intractably racist white folks in America, which means that intractably racist whites still substantially outnumber blacks. As the economy continues to contract, and the struggle for day-to-day survival becomes more intense, the probability of violent interracial conflict increases - because that's just part and parcel of human killer-ape collective psychology.

There's no advantage to be had from formally, politically installing anybody who has expressed affinity for avowedly racist (killer-ape) constituents and their explicitly anti-black, anti-mexican, and anti-muslim policies and praxis.

Surely there are more qualified libertarians than Paul, featuring all his economic and ideological assets while eschewing all his racist liabilities?

Denmark Vesey said...

"20% is a conservative estimate of the demographic percentage of intractably racist white folks in America," CNu

Brother CNu.

I hear you.

But sadly, you seem to have stepped in a pile of Plantation Negro memetic bullshit.

It appears to have stuck to your shoe.

You are projecting your subjective opinion and presenting it as scientific fact.

Please clear up a few things for us:

1) How were the feelings of millions of white people measured to arrive at this magical "20%" who are intractably racist?

2) Could you please provide an example of a white person ... any white person in America ... who it is safe to characterize as a "non-racist"?

3) What percentage of blacks are 'intractably racists' ... or is this a condition only whites can achieve?

To declare any white person "racist" is to transfer power to them.

It is a Plantation Negro reflex that is a self-denying prophesy.

That's why Negros running around still talking about racism today are no better off then they were 50 years ago.

Many negros pass off their inability to self-actualize as the result of an omnipotent and all powerful mysterious force called "racism".

Racism is nothing more than a seed of doubt ... planted in the minds of the most gullible.

It makes a man quit before he even gets started.

It's time to teach black people to snatch it out by the root and say ... "Fuck A Racism".

I'm always the blackest cat in the room and I aint never been the victim of racism.

Hustle Hard.

CNu said...

1) How were the feelings of millions of white people measured to arrive at this magical "20%" who are intractably racist?

lol, I took Bill O'Reilly's Faux News poll numbers at the face value that he announced them.

2) Could you please provide an example of a white person ... any white person in America ... who it is safe to characterize as a "non-racist"?

There's my good brotha Tom - but I'm also inclined to believe that my man Dorcas Daddy who's been hereabouts, and is pretty much everyday people, qualifies, as well.

3) What percentage of blacks are 'intractably racists' ... or is this a condition only whites can achieve?

That's an excellent question DV. What percentage of blacks derive their livelihood from some or another disparate impact business like the military industrial or prison/criminal Just-Us industrial - which transfers surplus labor value interracially from whites to blacks?

To declare any white person "racist" is to transfer power to them.

In precisely the same way that declaring a brown recluse spider poisonous is to transfer power to that spider.

I'm always the blackest cat in the room and I aint never been the victim of racism.

That's cause you a very sheltered haute bourgeousie negro DeeVee...,

you've never been in a gunfight
you've never personally sent anyone to the emergency room
you've never gotten anyone arrested
you've never been arrested
you've never watched anyone die as a result of violence

With all due respect, your world of bleeding edge interracial experience is a close approximation to that of Skip Gates on the day that that cracka Cambridge po-po took him in handcuffs down to the holding tank in Central Square.

Big Mark 243 said...

I just came back to see what, if any, response I got. Normally I come here as an 'observer' to learn and see what jewels and nuggets of knowledge I can mine!

Whether or not it is a 'plantation mentality' that keeps me from embracing Ron Paul and his particular libertarian ways has little to do with being afraid of what the government can do for me. Whether or not he qualifies as a racist doesn't impact on me either, as anyone with a lot of money is racist... they only recognize one color, and that is of money.

As I said in a previous comment, some if not all, of the foundation for Paul's ideal of government is based on a crappy ideological philosophy.

And for me, that is that with that..!

Anonymous said...

As I said in a previous comment, some if not all, of the foundation for Paul's ideal of government is based on a crappy ideological philosophy.

And what ideological philosophy of government is not crappy? Is there any candidate that reflects the utopian ideology?

Dina

Denmark Vesey said...

"In precisely the same way that declaring a brown recluse spider poisonous is to transfer power to that spider."

lol haaaaa

That's cute CNu.

Old, tired and played out. But cute.

Declaring a brown recluse spider "poisonous" is plantation negro faggotry ... if you happen to be black widow spider your damn self.

Bite that motherfucker back.

Fuck racism.

It can't stop a brother from doing something he has the balls to do anyway.

Denmark Vesey said...

"you've never been in a gunfight
you've never personally sent anyone to the emergency room
you've never gotten anyone arrested
you've never been arrested
you've never watched anyone die as a result of violence"



no.

But I paid $1400 to have a nigga shot.

Denmark Vesey said...

Biiiiiig Maaaaaarrrrk!!

Nah my man!

Do your thing. Express yourself anyway you wish.

You just got cats to thinking.

That's how we get down here.

It's all love.

CNu said...

But I paid $1400 to have a nigga shot.

which basically makes you one of those amoral self-dealing negroe slave-catchers that CF was on about, right?

CNu said...

And what ideological philosophy of government is not crappy? Is there any candidate that reflects the utopian ideology?

Occupy and Anonymous...,

CNu said...

Fuck racism.

It can't stop a brother from doing something he has the balls to do anyway.


lol, uh, yeah...,

But even a child is clear about the difference between Jason Bourne doing and Alex Conklin "doing".

Denmark Vesey said...

"which basically makes you one of those amoral self-dealing negroe slave-catchers that CF was on about, right?"

Nah Nu.

It makes me a capitalist.

lol.

If I was white you could call me a "wacist!"

CNu said...

If I was white you could call me a "wacist!"

rotflmbao..., I've been treated to some of the finest accommodations in the world by actual/factual/practicing fascists and racists (old school) who wanted to put me on their payroll.

Though you're a staunch representative of some of their derivative propaganda, you don't qualify as one of them.

I've also gone toe-to-toe with racist skinheads here in the heartland and elsewhere. They're far more representative of Bill O'Reilly's demographic 20%.

You don't qualify in either category.

As for paying $1400.00 to "have a nigga shot" - that just makes you one'a'them negroes that CF wrote about upthread thus: It is my opinion that all men are EQUAL HUMAN BEINGS, each with the same propensities for systematic good and evil.

Anonymous said...

no.

But I paid $1400 to have a nigga shot.

roflmao, dv you are off the chain!

Sheople Herder said...

The premise is that we are all human, we are all citizen's of the US and we are all being screwed by the people that run the government. It's pretty simple, and it's pretty sad. To say that one of us 99% actually has the power to look down on one the other 98% means pretty much nothing. The reality is that we are pawns fighting for the scraps while the upper crust cuts and runs with our freedoms and our our money. Black, white, brown and yellow we are all fellows. So let's get this cultural revolution started and vote in someone who sounds like a nut because he is challenging the status quo. Newt to Obama, no one is offering a solution that makes any sense. Don't give more power to the same people that got us here. They have proven themselves to be failures. At least the Ronulan's are willing to fight for what they believe in, and understand who's to blame. Some of the occupiers understand as well, but don't know where to focus their frustration. The best place to do it is the ballot box, the twitter pages, the blogs. We don't need guns we need peaceful resistance with a unified mind and a fire in our souls. Don't right off your brother because he has a different opinion. Ask him to explain it and set him right if you feel compelled to do so. No need to insult him with names or belittle his race... Look to MLK and Gandhi for inspiration.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]the CFR has appointed and begun large-scale promotion of its very own negro to craft and operationalize a controllable framework for the emergent "independent" or third party in America. [/quote]

KCNu:

1) I DO NOT use the term "Slave Catcher" for it is an IGNORANT reference to our ancestors. My ancestors were not SLAVES they were ENSLAVED. Enslavement represents what amounts to be A CHOICE given to an EQUAL HUMAN BEING to submit OR face physical consequences and/or the mental anguish of what can be done to a beloved family member. A "Dog Catcher" catches dogs. Those who were sent to Africa were kidnapping EQUAL HUMAN BEINGS into the system of slavery.

2) I beg you to read the Manning Marable book about "Malcolm X". It shows how Baynard Rustin functionally took Brother Malcolm off course by convincing him that we as a community were going to receive our SALVATION by fusing our 'Black Community Consciousness' into the AMERICAN POLITICAL DOMAIN.

I SMDH as I wonder how you figure a THIRD PARTY - that is ultimately going to be still a pawn in the American Political Domain is going to benefit Black folks ANY MORE than this monolithic orientation today.

Seriously Bro - do you really think that "Democrats who are Black" are going to all you to break up their rock solid voting block?

The Federal Courts just ruled that it was ILLEGAL for a North Carolina town to run NON-PARTISAN ELECTIONS. The Civil Rights Pharisees argued that it was VOTER SUPPRESSION to deny Black folks the ability to see WHO IS A DEMOCRAT.

Think ahead Brother KCNu. Just as I say about Minister Louis Farrakhan in reference to his "Black Community building series" in The Final Call - until he realizes that his greatest enemy toward building a truly INDEPENDENT BLACK CONSCIOUSNESS are those Black Racial Services operatives who stand on stage with him - and then takes steps to push them out of the "Black Community Consciousness Nucleus" ....his plan has no chance to work for they see the TRULY INDEPENDENTLY MINDED NEGRO as a threat to their immediate plans.

Constructive Feedback said...

(Add On)

They presently use their MONOPOLY power and influence to roll over ANY attempts within the Black community to build up GOVERNANCE INSTITUTIONS where their antics are necessarily regulated.

CNu said...

I SMDH as I wonder how you figure a THIRD PARTY - that is ultimately going to be still a pawn in the American Political Domain is going to benefit Black folks ANY MORE than this monolithic orientation today.

You can stop shaking your head Feed, I don't figure any such thing. You missed my point.

My point was simply that co-option of the 3rd party dissatisfaction with Democrat and Republican sides of the same sold-out political machine is already well down the path, and, it's been given a black face in the person of Khalil Byrd.

Seriously Bro - do you really think that "Democrats who are Black" are going to all you to break up their rock solid voting block?

um..., that'd be why I found it of interest that the CFR is sponsoring this black branded, malcolm x eyeglass frame wearing kneegrow Byrd to shepherd in any type of 3rd party formation. He professes the same brand of "conservatism" you've been preaching for the past few years, except he's got large $$ and large influence support for his mission.

Just as I say about Minister Louis Farrakhan in reference to his "Black Community building series" in The Final Call

I don't agree with our host about very much, but one thing he professes above all his odd canadian crypto-fascist material, stands as true.

There is no such thing as a black community anymore. Not only is it dead, it's beyond any possible or conceivable recusitation.

CNu said...

They presently use their MONOPOLY power and influence to roll over ANY attempts within the Black community to build up GOVERNANCE INSTITUTIONS where their antics are necessarily regulated.

I call these 2nd and 3rd line inheritors of the civil rights movement. Politicians, afrodemics, pundits, preachers, activists, lawyers - not a scientist, engineer, farmer, or other productive member of human society in their midst. I have recently become fond of condensing all of this into the unsettling pejorative "jiggaboo" because these people seem unable to respond effectively to this slur.

Further, I have concluded that former national security advisor McGeorge Bundy played a pivotal role in funding and shaping that "movement" which has given rise to the ascenscioun of the jiggaboo that you so vigorously protest, and, that this was a consciously crafted counter-insurgent strategy for neutering and neutralizing black nationalism that has succeeded beyond its architects wildest imaginings.

Anonymous said...

I have to say, historically black folks have been the recipients of the worse treatment that our country has ever had to offer. “Nigger” literally translates into a racial epithet against blacks & “honky” translates into a racial epithet against whites. But factoring in historical context, nigger translates into, slavery, burning of Greenwood, Oklahoma (Black Wallstreet), FBI's war on black organizations from Garvey to the Panthers, American scientist & Quaker Oats feeding radioactive cereal to black children. Whereas honky translates into, “Take me to jail mofo, I’m still gonna resist.”

If Ron Paul finds some credibility in certain ideologies or trigger words, then naturally people will cross reference that information within it’s historical narrative. That variable should come as no surprise. If he’s not concerned about retracting or explaining those statements then you can’t blame the audience for booing a poorly written script.

Obama has an A-Team version of media magicians. They understand trigger words, so they played the game. They understand imagery & brands so they played the game.
When you think of Obama you think of the black church, MLK, the 1st black _________ (fill in the blank), ex-black Muslim (if you’re questioning his level of blackness), a black family w/ the father present, black wife with a booty present, somebody who isn’t Bush, Jay Z’s on the ipod and a basketball in the net. It’s about what you look like and how you make the crowd feel not the content of what you’re saying.

When you think of Ron Paul you see a Katharine Hepburn shaking old man. The only shaking Obama doing is on the court. Not to sound shallow but the game is not about content it’s about a light show. The only thing that can beat Obama is another black dude his age or younger; with a fade & edge-up; just as articulate w/a little free style in his repertoire; a Nike connoisseur with someone like Serena on his elbow.

Ron Paul needs to step it up. In this game, content is just the letter “C” in an A & B conversation.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]If Ron Paul finds some credibility in certain ideologies or trigger words, then naturally people will cross reference that information within it’s historical narrative. [/quote]

GCV:

Using the "Keeping It Real With Al Sharpton" show today and its discussion about DETROIT - I can say, unflinchingly that Ron Paul calling us "Ninjas" has done far less harm to the BLACK CONSCIOUSNESS and our PERMANENT INTERESTS over the past 50 years than has the forces in the "Black Racial Services Machine".

In the wake of the smoldering wreckage called Detroit - WHO'S BLACK PEOPLE lost more "Intergenrational Wealth" from the policies that were implemented than anything that Wells, Citi, BofA, CountryWide, CapOne or PNC could even dream about stealing from our people................these Negroes PROVE that regardless of the injury they inflict upon Black people - they are going to retain their "Fight The Power"/"Fight The Invasion" disposition that they know will always attract a few Negroes their way REGARDLESS of the outcome.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]My point was simply that co-option of the 3rd party dissatisfaction with Democrat and Republican sides of the same sold-out political machine is already well down the path, and, it's been given a black face in the person of Khalil Byrd.[/quote]

My good man KCNu - (and I am trying to have a conversation and not a jousting match with you......this time. :-) )

I note that you later specifically address those who I call "The Embedded Black Fox Confidence Men".
HOWEVER I challenge you to define which element of the "Black Racial Services Machine" has taken a consistent and definitive stance which says that these 2ND GENERATION "Civil Rights Pharisees" are not "The Black Agenda Keepers" but merely an attempted overlay?

Let's play the plan out in the real world.

Embedded in your meetings for the 3rd party will be spies for the "Embedded Confidence Men". They will send out surveillance reports to the presiding establishment forces with the same discipline that Obama's National Security Adviser hands him a "National Intelligence Briefing" each and every day.

They are going to act as allies in the initial phases YET in the run up to the elections they are going to demand, KCNu that you "QUIT PLAYING AROUND!!! This election is too serious for you to SPLINTER THE NEGRO VOTE".

My argument is that we have an ARCHITECTURAL problem.
The "National Social Justice Chasers" know that the only way to mask their local incompetence in developing the Black community is to put forth the notion of NATIONALZIED ENTITLEMENTS. With such an indictment at hand they can "Keep Their Enemies On Trial" for failing the Black community REGARDLESS of how much power they themselves have aggregated over time.

I am telling you sure as I am standing here - Your biggest challenge and the attempt to "Knock Your Block Off" when you make serious inroads into a BLACK INDEPENDENCE MOVEMENT.......are the NEGROES who's CONSCIOUSNESS has been won over by the present political formation.

They are used to USING BLACK PEOPLE every 2 years, the long term failed development BE DAMNED.

Your task is to convince the BLACK RANK & FILE to stop yielding their GOLD to the "Devil They Know" and instead take the walk with you into unchartered territory.

The one thing that the present establishment HAS PURPOSELY NOT DONE is foster a culture of VISION FORWARD within our people. They instead drove "Congregational Unity".

Don't take my statements as negative against you. I am only detailing what your real challenge is going to be.

CNu said...

minor oversight on your part Feed..., the CFR is comprised of State Department, DoD, and CIA alumni. They already have detailed dossier on and action plans ready for the "The Embedded Black Fox Confidence Men" comprising the "Black Racial Services Machine".

If, as I suppose, they're beginning the preliminary execution of a governance contingency plan for appropriation of 3rd party movement - which appropriation requires co-option of significant elements of the black electorate - then they'll begin making examples of selected members of the "The Embedded Black Fox Confidence Men".
comprising the "Black Racial Services Machine" fraternities and sororities.