makheru bradley said...
We had a similar discussion last week over at Subrealism, and unfortunately DV, you're tracking (time after time, and time again) some of the misinformation that was spewed by a reincarnation of Arnold Toynbee.Not only are the giant stone heads of La Venta images of Afrikan people, they are specifically representative of the Nubians of the magnificent Twenty-Fifth Dynasty of Ancient KMT--Piankhi, Shabaka, Taharka, etc.
Also present in the sculptures at La Venta are the seafaring partners of the rulers of KMT, the Phoenicians. Dr. Ivan Van Sertima deals briefly with the political and economic relationships between the seafaring Phoenicians and the Afrikans of Ancient KMT in "African Presence in Early America." http://www.journalofafricancivilizations.com/product/APEAMPE-001
Of particular interest is the presence of Phoenicians in the Olmec Civilization (948-680 BCE), in sculpture, right next to the colossal Afrikan stone heads of La Venta. "Apart from the African, there is another element that is represented in the Native American sculptures of this time. That other element is Phoenician. A figure with curved aquiline nose, thin lips, and flowing beard stands on the same plaza as the African figures." - Van Sertima
If you have any historical evidence to refute the scholarship of Ivan Van Sertima have at it.
Denmark Vesey said ...
Makheru ... Makheru ... Makeru Come on bra.
Them Bone-N-The-Nose Plantation Negro nerds talk a whole bunch of 'Afro-Centric' shit ... but at the end of the day subscribe to every bullshit Eurocentric meme taught in their little Plantation Negro schools.
First of all. You can add the letter "K" to the word "African" all you want ... it is still a nonsensical misnomer.
Why? It is not even an "African" word. Did the indigenous people of that continent ever call themselves "African" before Europeans colonized Africa?
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No.
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| What Exactly Is An "African"? |
A Black man calling himself an "African" is as silly as an American Indian calling himself a "Columbian".
Secondly. The insistence that the entire Olmec culture of Mesoamerica was nothing more than a group of ancient 'Afrikans' on an excursion from ancient KMT is nonsensical. There are more pyramids in what you call Mexico than in what you call ancient KMT. Which pyramids are older? Yeah. Uh hm.
Even so called Afro-Centric scholars operate within the Euro-centric limits of the Darwinian narrative which insists man "evolved" from monkeys and eventually walked out of "Africa" to populate the entire globe.
Darwinism is a religion. Fantasy. An occult myth with no more scientific evidence than the Official 911 theory. Black people are the indigenous people all over the planet. From Australia to 'Africa' to Asia to "America" ... black people. Bruvas. Sistuhs.
Pre-Cataclysm muhfuggas. Antediluvian. Black with a vengeance.
Limiting Negros to Africa is a means of mind control. It keeps them ignorant of their true identity.
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We had a similar discussion last week over at Subrealism, and unfortunately DV, you're tracking (time after time, and time again) some of the misinformation that was spewed by a reincarnation of Arnold Toynbee.
Not only are the giant stone heads of La Venta images of Afrikan people, they are specifically representative of the Nubians of the magnificent Twenty-Fifth Dynasty of Ancient KMT--Piankhi, Shabaka, Taharka, etc.
Also present in the sculptures at La Venta are the seafaring partners of the rulers of KMT, the Phoenicians.
Dr. Ivan Van Sertima deals briefly with the political and economic relationships between the seafaring Phoenicians and the Afrikans of Ancient KMT in "African Presence in Early America."
http://www.journalofafricancivilizations.com/product/APEAMPE-001
Of particular interest is the presence of Phoenicians in the Olmec Civilization (948-680 BCE), in sculpture, right next to the colossal Afrikan stone heads of La Venta.
"Apart from the African, there is another element that is represented in the Native American sculptures of this time. That other element is Phoenician. A figure with curved aquiline nose, thin lips, and flowing beard stands on the same plaza as the African figures." - Van Sertima
If you have any historical evidence to refute the scholarship of Ivan Van Sertima have at it.
Wow, the Olmecs had slaves too?? :o
Must you constantly display your mental slavery? “Bone-N-The-Nose.” Just wondering since you have a Tarzan mentality, do you also yell like the white man when you swing on the vines through your garden?
As expected you didn’t offer a single word to refute the scholarship of Dr. Van Sertima. Not a single word! As regards spelling Afrika with a K, we can, in the spirit of Kujichagulia define ourselves however we choose. Your knowledge of the etymology of the word Afrika is obviously limited to Eurocentric sources. Clearly, you’ve never studied the works of Gerald Massey, Cheikh Anta Diop, Ivan Van Sertima, or Charles Finch.
[Massey, in 1881, derived an etymology from the Egyptian word af-rui-ka, "to turn toward the opening of the Ka." The Ka is the energetic double of every person and "opening of the Ka" refers to a womb or birthplace. Africa would be, for the Egyptians, "the birthplace." ] - Dr. Charles Finch
http://gerald-massey.org.uk/massey/cmc_nile_genesis.htm
The Latinized version (Africa) of the indigenous word af-rui-ka became dominant after the Romans conquered Carthage. As Dr. Wade Nobles says, “power is the ability to define reality,” particularly the reality of the conquered. For roughly 450 years the whole world has had to deal with the “Europeanization of human consciousness.” A cultural revolution is required to break the monopoly the oppressed have on the minds of the colonized.
The insistence that the entire Olmec culture of Mesoamerica was nothing more than a group of ancient 'Afrikans' on an excursion from ancient KMT is nonsensical. There are more pyramids in what you call Mexico than in what you call ancient KMT. Which pyramids are older? – DV
Imhotep’s Step Pyramid at Saqqara is the world’s oldest stone building, so case closed on that point. Secondly, Afrikan-centered scholars have never declared that the Olmec Civilization was an Afrikan civilization. We’ve said that there was an Afrikan presence. We’re not Europeans. We don’t need to steal the legacies of other people. We have our own accomplishments.
Anyone who believes that the Nubians of La Venta, who were sculpted wearing the military headgear of the mighty warriors of the Twenty-Fifth Dynasty of KMT, were slaves in Olmec society, is a historical imbecile.
Darwinism is a religion. Fantasy. An occult myth with no more scientific evidence than the Official 911 theory. Black people are the indigenous people all over the planet. – DV
I’m not rehashing the Pangaea argument, but whatever you believe is no different from Darwinism. It’s a religion, a fantasy, and a myth.
[Massey, in 1881, derived an etymology from the Egyptian word af-rui-ka, "to turn toward the opening of the Ka." ... Makheru
I hear you Brother Makheru.
But Masey or no Massey. Van Sertima or no Van sertima, Afrika with a "k" or Africa with a "c" ... Identifying oneself as an "African" doesn't make sense.
Even if you were born and raised in the Congo.
No black man on the continent now known as "Africa" considered himself an "African" until after Africa had been colonized.
The term "Africa" is an artificial meme.
A hybrid.
A mental vaccine.
"Africa", is by definition a colonial concept.
Two hundred years ago, why would black people in modern day Tanzania or Mali have named themselves after the entire continent?
So come on bra.
I know you are invested in the whole Afro-centric thing. I'm sure you spent a grip on Dashiki's and Kente cloth.
But acknowledge the obvious:
"African" is a subset of Black.
Not the other way around.
"Imhotep’s Step Pyramid at Saqqara is the world’s oldest stone building," MB
According to whom?
How is it possible to date a stone building?
What makes you think the step pyramid is older than Tiahuanaco in modern Bolivia?
Come on Mak.
Hang in there bra.
DV will adjust your entire paradigm.
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