Not bad ... but the brother should spend a little time at DV.Net to sharpen his memetic skills before he tackles the Hegelian Head Fake.
Gee Chee Vision said...
Chris Hedges was a journalist for the NY Times and spent significant time in Afghanistan. He makes a good point that he refuse to go on these shows because he wants to be in control of meanings and labels on his own terms.He uses "war on terror" as an example. It doesn't matter whether or not if you agree with it, if you respond to it you have already subscribe to its intended meaning.
You have already placed yourself in a damning position. Brother Fiasco and Mos Def got to respect these professionals and what they do.
They are not just going up against an O'Rielly or a Hannity but a team of psychological experts and professional debaters.
The goal was to simply to discredit Lupe. As long as he was in control of his own convo he was freeing people's minds. As long as he made his point through the medium of hip-hop without having to apologize he was freeing people's mind. NWA didn't have to get on television and articulate "Eff the Police." Either buy their album or go listen to Kenny Rogers.
Lupe didn't have to be concerned with O'Reilly saying that he declined or ran from an interview. Look at Michael Moore, he only agreed to interviews from O'Reilly and the like on his own terms. Lupe could have agreed to an interview under the conditions that it would be an email response, flip it and put it as a skit on his next album or make a youtube cartoon out of it, or had some dorky kid rhyme O'Reilly's arguments.
If they decline to do email then eff'em, you tried to meet them half way. We got to improvise and get creative and create on our own terms. As Vijay Prashad says create your own media. Their media is designed and engineered to represent their agenda. Period.
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Very uneventful. Lupe didn't research his argument well enough to go toe-to-toe with O'Reily. Now John Stewart....he handled O'Reily quite effectively.
dis niggaz uh idiut.
sounded worse than kanye trying to defend his bush dont care about black people comment.
mr fiascow. stick to ur craft.
Anonymous said.. sounded worse than kanye trying to defend his bush dont care about black people comment.
I thought Kanye's argument was solid. Brother Fiasco on the other hand.. sigh. I guess this is why he refused to go on O'Reiley's show in the first place?
He failed to back up his argument with evidence. What was meant to be a lively debate turned flaccid. *kanye shrug*
Yeah, he had a real chance to get a dialogue started about black people's-- particularly young black people's-- relationship with Obama, but it feels a lot of it was wasted.
Still, big ups to Lupe for even having the balls to do this much. Just waiting to see how many other rappers step forward.
Chris Hedges was a journalist for the NY Times and spent significant time in Afghanistan. He makes a good point that he refuse to go on these shows because he wants to be in control of meanings and labels on his own terms. He uses "war on terror" as an example. It doesn't matter whether or not if you agree with it, if you respond to it you have already subscribe to its intended meaning. You have already placed yourself in a damning position. Brother Fiasco and Mos Def got to respect these professionals and what they do. They are not just going up against an O'Rielly or a Hannity but a team of psychological experts and professional debaters. The goal was to simply to discredit Lupe. As long as he was in control of his own convo he was freeing people's minds. As long as he made his point through the medium of hip-hop without having to apologize he was freeing people's mind.
NWA didn't have to get on television and articulate "Eff the Police." Either buy their album or go listen to Kenny Rogers.
Lupe didn't have to be concerned with O'Reilly saying that he declined or ran from an interview. Look at Michael Moore, he only agreed to interviews from O'Reilly and the like on his own terms.
Lupe could have agreed to an interview under the conditions that it would be an email response, flip it and put it as a skit on his next album or make a youtube cartoon out of it, or had some dorky kid rhyme O'Reilly's arguments.
If they decline to do email then eff'em, you tried to meet them half way. We got to improvise and get creative and create on our own terms. As Vijay Prashad says create your own media.
Their media is designed and engineered to represent their agenda. Period.
True, he should have done a little more research and practiced controlling the conversation -- especially terms like terrorist and war on terror (great point Gee Chee). In any situation like this, people must have their talking points and stick to them regardless of how much others try to steer them away. But even if he was more prepared content-wise, O'Reilly kept interrupting him and really did not even give him a chance to explain his position. --OneLove
Gee Chee is on point.
The exercise was meant to discredit Lupe and the mission was accomplished effortlessly.
Number one rule of lawyering is to never allow yourself to be put on the defensive. As soon as you are on the defensive, you lose.
O'Reilly made Lupe look like a child trying to explain why he was sneaking cookies out of the cookie jar. "Well, what I have a problem with is...." Amateur hour.
The talking points are how O'Reilly stays on the offensive.
Dina
That was a good post GeeChee.
When you start the conversation on your terms, you're 100 miles ahead.
I remember, as a younger man, I used to get fustrated listening to Farrakahn becuase he'd never exactly answer questions directly....but as I began to understand what you effectively articlated, I realized that if you start the conversation on someone else's terms, you might as well not even start. Some special individuals have mastered the art of establishing their own conetxt / satarting point in public spaces....but its damn near impossible if you actually show up on their show and use their language (great point!).
I didn't think Lupe did as bad as everyone's saying though.
Thanks man I've been looking for this
Superb analysis Gee. I'm with Hedges. It serves no purpose to appear on these sound-bite shows.
Lil Wayne is a terrorist.
“I swear you can’t fuck with me
But I can fuck your girl and make her nut for me
Then slut for me, then kill for me, then steal for me
And of course it’ll be your cash
And I’ll murder that bitch and send her body back to your ass”
“We Be Steady Mobbin” -- Lil Wayne
Every system and institution of oppression maintained by terrorism has several interlocking mechanisms. Lil Wayne, a real life Sambo/Quimbo, with his lyrical weapons of mass destruction, is one of the terrorists who helps to maintain the mental slavery of far too many Afrikan people. Mental slavery is invisible violence with physical manifestations.
"Blessed are they who dash your baby's brains against a rock." --Rev. Wright quoting Psalm 137:9
"Dash your baby's brains against a rock" is basically what DV's hero said in a 2009 interview.
http://www.bvblackspin.com/2009/07/16/lil-wayne-murder-newborn-babies/
Frederick Douglass said that the “limits of tyrants are proscribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.” At what point does our endurance of this corporate tyranny (Universal Music Group, Clear Channel Communications, Black Enslavement Television/Viacom, etc.) expire?
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