O. Mahogany said... Ummm
DV. Come on now. I'm all for making a man wait but we can't say that
there aren't tons of marriages that evolved frompeople in love who had a
healthy sex life. Don't we mean pussy is ideally for daddies? Of course that's what we mean, I dont even know why I asked that. lol
Denmark Vesey said ...
Sister O!
What does a 'healthy sex life' ... outside of marriage look like?
I KNOW it is NOT what you mean AT ALL... but as someone who is familiar with the rates of incest and child molestation in this world, I cannot help but get sickened a little bit by the idea that "pussy is for daddies" Now if you said "pussy is for husbands" I could get with that, but not "pussy is for daddies" that just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Not only that, but what if a man cannot have children, or his wife can't? Should they not get married? Should they not have sex?
I totally know that is NOT what you meant, but it still just kinda makes me a little sick. I guess I just been around to many people who have had those types of experiences.
Ummm.. in a large part, yes they are. Procreation requires sex, not marriage. Most people get married for companionship and love, and procreate as an extension of that. People were making babies and having families long before the establishment of formal marriage. And if nobody ever got married again, they would still be making babies and having families. Men and women bond to each other for all sorts of reasons, not just to have children. If someone believes sex is only correct inside of a marriage, but cannot procreate, should they be not only alone, but also celibate???
Most people get married for companionship and love
See...this is why the divorce rate is so high. If you get married for "happiness" (whatever that means) and "love", then what happens when you find yourself unhappy and "not in love"?
Secular marriage is about "happiness" with the notion that your spouse's job is to make you "happy" forever. And the second you cease to be "happy", the marriage ends because its foundation is gone.
It's a trap and a hopeless misunderstanding of marriage.
True Godly marriage is a sacrament; it is a commitment to God.
People were making babies and having families long before the establishment of formal marriage.
Really? Who told you that?
Even if that were true, then realize that the institution of marriage resulted because those "people" realized that having children outside marriage is not healthy for anyone.
Men and women bond to each other for all sorts of reasons, not just to have children.
"If you get married for "happiness" (whatever that means) and "love", then what happens when you find yourself unhappy and "not in love"?" - ill
truth. happiness and love are overrated and arbitrary. without respect, honesty, commitment, shared values, etc., all you have is problems!
'what does a healthy sex life outside of marriage look like?' - dv
damn good question. i haven't found a soul yet who can testify. what to do in the meantime? again, i haven't met too many who can truthfully speak to that. i decided to prioritize my spiritual and emotional health.
i don't know if anyone has heard of or gets down with juanita bynum, she has a sermon from the 1990s called 'no more sheets' floating on the internet ... its deep.
You people are trippin. DV, what about sexual compatibility?
If a man never gets down before marriage he may just be disappointed with his wack bride and end up like some of your friends with mistresses. Or Vice Versa.
And I definately plan on being happily married. Not all the time but all in all. I've seen what an unhappy marriage looks like-
Can a woman have a "healthy" sex life with a man ... and still end up marrying him.
sure.
happens all the time. -DV
It happens almost ALL the time. Enough said.
That's some Oprah, Cosmo, secular fundamentalist nonsense that feminists use as an excuse to behave like whores. -II
Tell that to the virgin wives asking me for sex advice to please their roaming gnome husbands.
But since marriage isnt about happiness I'm sure that includes the bedroom sooo...
But many men have a hard time paying for a car they already drive whenever they want. - DV
Women are a tad bit more complex than a car, my friend..but you know that those men who've been with their wives prior to marriage has made commitment for more than the sex.
By choosing someone I can sit comfortably through pain with.
By choosing someone who is interested in pleasing THEMSELVES. And someone who gains pleasure from GIVING of THEMSELVES to others.
By choosing someone single that I am more than satisfied with and who is equally satisfied with the single O. Mahogany right now.
I cant control when or how the "happy" comes in my life but I can control the limits of unhappiness. And O. Mahog willing, I will create the most conducive environment for the potential of happy that I can. It is my responsibility in my relationship.
Tell that to the virgin wives asking me for sex advice to please their roaming gnome husbands.
Is this Jasai?
You are mixing unrelated issues my friend. A roaming gnome is a roaming gnome, whether his wife is sliding down a pole at home or still learning the art of sex.
That these women think they need to learn porn tricks to please an adulterer only proves my point about how destructive Oprah, Desperate Housewives and Sex and The City really are.
I'm really not so opposed to the no fornication route. I see benefits there too.
I once held fast to religious principle. But I found flaw...
Some things are outdated and no longer work. Some things are only outdated.
I'm interested in what works best for me. You say this is it. Well, I dont know if you have the time my friend but you gotta prove it to me.
I think about this:
If Im interested in marrying a man who is not a virgin (virtually all men) and I hold off, he is going to sleep with other women right on up until the proposal. On rare occasion he may watch porn to get him through the relationship. All of this would be done behind my back.
Is that what all this is about? Fairness? Tit for tat?
If he's smoking crack up until the proposal, would it not be fair to do the same?
What he does is absolutely irrelevant to what you do. Using his promiscuity to justify your own is a Cosmo trap. If you are wife material, you will behave like wife material, regardless of what ol' boy is doing.
"These are virgins. We're speaking strictly basics. "
puh-lease. everyone was a virgin at some point last i heard. sex is only the most natural and basic of human urges.
"That these women think they need to learn porn tricks to please an adulterer only proves my point about how destructive Oprah, Desperate Housewives and Sex and The City really are."
"puh-lease. everyone was a virgin at some point last i heard. sex is only the most natural and basic of human urges."
Yes, the urge is quite natural and basic.
But sex isnt just about pleasing yourself. It's a spiritual and physical artform in which knowing about the urges of the opposite sex come in handy.And the best artists have always shared their secrets.
The type of info both men and women pay for.
But we digress ladies...
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27 comments:
I KNOW it is NOT what you mean AT ALL... but as someone who is familiar with the rates of incest and child molestation in this world, I cannot help but get sickened a little bit by the idea that "pussy is for daddies" Now if you said "pussy is for husbands" I could get with that, but not "pussy is for daddies" that just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Not only that, but what if a man cannot have children, or his wife can't? Should they not get married? Should they not have sex?
Damn Jo ...
Come on now.
yuck.
People can take things any way they choose.
Incest? Pedophilia?
That's some Lifetime channel shit.
wow.
i did not take it that way at all...
wow.
I totally know that is NOT what you meant, but it still just kinda makes me a little sick. I guess I just been around to many people who have had those types of experiences.
Not only that, but what if a man cannot have children, or his wife can't? Should they not get married? Should they not have sex?
Perhaps the better question is, should they get married? And, if so, why?
Perhaps the better question is, should they get married? And, if so, why?
Because everyone is entitled to happiness maybe? Because even those who cannot have children want companionship perhaps?
Depending on their religious beliefs it's better to get married than to burn. Children are not the only reason ppl get married.
As for pussy being for daddies, you're not becoming a daddy until after the fact so it just seems contradictory to me.
Joanna,
Are "happiness" and "companionship" the reasons for getting married?
Ummm.. in a large part, yes they are. Procreation requires sex, not marriage. Most people get married for companionship and love, and procreate as an extension of that. People were making babies and having families long before the establishment of formal marriage. And if nobody ever got married again, they would still be making babies and having families. Men and women bond to each other for all sorts of reasons, not just to have children. If someone believes sex is only correct inside of a marriage, but cannot procreate, should they be not only alone, but also celibate???
Most people get married for companionship and love
See...this is why the divorce rate is so high. If you get married for "happiness" (whatever that means) and "love", then what happens when you find yourself unhappy and "not in love"?
Secular marriage is about "happiness" with the notion that your spouse's job is to make you "happy" forever. And the second you cease to be "happy", the marriage ends because its foundation is gone.
It's a trap and a hopeless misunderstanding of marriage.
True Godly marriage is a sacrament; it is a commitment to God.
People were making babies and having families long before the establishment of formal marriage.
Really? Who told you that?
Even if that were true, then realize that the institution of marriage resulted because those "people" realized that having children outside marriage is not healthy for anyone.
Men and women bond to each other for all sorts of reasons, not just to have children.
Like what?
"What does a 'healthy sex life' ... outside of marriage look like?" - DV
I think it LOOKS a lot like marriage. Well, at least the first few months of marriage as I hear of it, lol.
And pussy is for daddies ... by definition. - DV
Perhaps. But let's not get off track. What are we doing in preparation as the nurse puts it?
I mean I know what I'm doing, but what are WE doing?
"If you get married for "happiness" (whatever that means) and "love", then what happens when you find yourself unhappy and "not in love"?" - ill
truth. happiness and love are overrated and arbitrary. without respect, honesty, commitment, shared values, etc., all you have is problems!
'what does a healthy sex life outside of marriage look like?' - dv
damn good question. i haven't found a soul yet who can testify. what to do in the meantime? again, i haven't met too many who can truthfully speak to that. i decided to prioritize my spiritual and emotional health.
i don't know if anyone has heard of or gets down with juanita bynum, she has a sermon from the 1990s called 'no more sheets' floating on the internet ... its deep.
Juanita Bynum is a joke.
You people are trippin.
DV, what about sexual compatibility?
If a man never gets down before marriage he may just be disappointed with his wack bride and end up like some of your friends with mistresses. Or Vice Versa.
And I definately plan on being happily married. Not all the time but all in all. I've seen what an unhappy marriage looks like-
im cool.
DV I laughed my ass off when I saw this photo and title. You are something else!
chosen said...
"If you get married for "happiness" (whatever that means) and "love", then what happens when you find yourself unhappy and "not in love"?" - ill
truth. happiness and love are overrated and arbitrary. without respect, honesty, commitment, shared values, etc., all you have is problems!
Oooohhh. Nice.
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La Punany est pour des Papas ...
When a woman shares her body with a man, she is giving him one of her most valuable gifts.
Together they participate in a profound act that has the potential to create life, the potential to change the world.
Some women give that gift to boyfriends.
Some women give that gift to men they date.
Some women give that gift to whomever has $40 or $50.
Some women give that gift to men who commit to them and commit to the product of their union.
Those men are called husbands and daddies.
If a woman wants a husband and a daddy, save the punany.
Can a woman have a "healthy" sex life with a man ... and still end up marrying him.
sure.
happens all the time.
But many men have a hard time paying for a car they already drive whenever they want.
They have a hard time buying a house they've been living in for free for years.
Cart. In front. Of Horse.
If sistas tightened up on the draws ... millions of De Facto Homo men would Do The Right Thing within weeks.
DV, what about sexual compatibility?
That's some Oprah, Cosmo, secular fundamentalist nonsense that feminists use as an excuse to behave like whores.
And I definately plan on being happily married. Not all the time but all in all. I've seen what an unhappy marriage looks like-
And how do you plan to do that?
Can a woman have a "healthy" sex life with a man ... and still end up marrying him.
sure.
happens all the time. -DV
It happens almost ALL the time. Enough said.
That's some Oprah, Cosmo, secular fundamentalist nonsense that feminists use as an excuse to behave like whores. -II
Tell that to the virgin wives asking me for sex advice to please their roaming gnome husbands.
But since marriage isnt about happiness I'm sure that includes the bedroom sooo...
But many men have a hard time paying for a car they already drive whenever they want. - DV
Women are a tad bit more complex than a car, my friend..but you know that those men who've been with their wives prior to marriage has made commitment for more than the sex.
And how do you plan to do that?
By choosing someone I can sit comfortably through pain with.
By choosing someone who is interested in pleasing THEMSELVES. And someone who gains pleasure from GIVING of THEMSELVES to others.
By choosing someone single that I am more than satisfied with and who is equally satisfied with the single O. Mahogany right now.
I cant control when or how the "happy" comes in my life but I can control the limits of unhappiness. And O. Mahog willing, I will create the most conducive environment for the potential of happy that I can. It is my responsibility in my relationship.
Men also dont want anyone else driving their whip.
Especially if they're paying for it.
So it's better to lease than rent for most men.
Tell that to the virgin wives asking me for sex advice to please their roaming gnome husbands.
Is this Jasai?
You are mixing unrelated issues my friend. A roaming gnome is a roaming gnome, whether his wife is sliding down a pole at home or still learning the art of sex.
That these women think they need to learn porn tricks to please an adulterer only proves my point about how destructive Oprah, Desperate Housewives and Sex and The City really are.
One has nothing to do with the other.
Roaming gnomes tend not to get married only to think about cheating only after 3 mos.
Who said anything about porn tricks?
These are virgins. We're speaking strictly basics.
And I suppose if most men were virgins too you'd be right. But they aren't.
I'm really not so opposed to the no fornication route. I see benefits there too.
I once held fast to religious principle. But I found flaw...
Some things are outdated and no longer work. Some things are only outdated.
I'm interested in what works best for me. You say this is it. Well, I dont know if you have the time my friend but you gotta prove it to me.
I think about this:
If Im interested in marrying a man who is not a virgin (virtually all men) and I hold off, he is going to sleep with other women right on up until the proposal. On rare occasion he may watch porn to get him through the relationship. All of this would be done behind my back.
Would it not be fair to do the same?
Would it not be fair to do the same?
Is that what all this is about? Fairness? Tit for tat?
If he's smoking crack up until the proposal, would it not be fair to do the same?
What he does is absolutely irrelevant to what you do. Using his promiscuity to justify your own is a Cosmo trap. If you are wife material, you will behave like wife material, regardless of what ol' boy is doing.
I only asked if it was fair. I never said it was justification for doing the same.
If I'm wife material, I will be married regardless of whether or not prior to it I behave like a single girl.
After all, so will he.
"These are virgins. We're speaking strictly basics. "
puh-lease. everyone was a virgin at some point last i heard. sex is only the most natural and basic of human urges.
"That these women think they need to learn porn tricks to please an adulterer only proves my point about how destructive Oprah, Desperate Housewives and Sex and The City really are."
truth!
"puh-lease. everyone was a virgin at some point last i heard. sex is only the most natural and basic of human urges."
Yes, the urge is quite natural and basic.
But sex isnt just about pleasing yourself. It's a spiritual and physical artform in which knowing about the urges of the opposite sex come in handy.And the best artists have always shared their secrets.
The type of info both men and women pay for.
But we digress ladies...
"If I'm wife material, I will be married regardless of whether or not prior to it I behave like a single girl.
After all, so will he." - O.
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