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"And now here I am in a world guided by fear, a world suppressing the uniqueness that lies inside each of us, a world where we can either acquiesce to the inhuman nonsense of corporatism and materialism or insist on change. We are not enlivened by an educational system that clandestinely sets us up for jobs that could be automated, for work that need not be done, for enslavement without fervency for meaningful achievement. We have no choices in life when money is our motivational force. Our motivational force ought to be passion, but this is lost from the moment we step into a system that trains us, rather than inspires us. We are more than robotic bookshelves, conditioned to blurt out facts we were taught in school. [DMG] We are all very special, every human on this planet is so special, so aren’t we all deserving of something better, of using our minds for innovation, rather than memorization, for creativity, rather than futile activity, for rumination rather than stagnation? We are not here to get a degree, to then get a job, so we can consume industry-approved placation after placation. There is more, and more still."
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So, what's she doing in September?
MANIFESTO!!!!
she's "getting that piece of paper that tells [her] she's smart enough to do so"
then she might get a "job that could be automated, work that need not be done, for enslavement without fervency for meaningful achievement"
Unless..
"...then she might get a "job that could be automated, work that need not be done, for enslavement without fervency for meaningful achievement""
I suppose NOT getting an education will assure that she's not doing meaningless work.
Actually she'll be going to (you guessed it) university this fall. If she practiced what she mouthed off about, she'd say fuck it and strike out on her own without aid of another "piece of paper". So really she's just some high school chick who is full of shit beyond her years.
Degree or no degree it's up to the individual to make his/her life meaningful. Academic achievement is merely demonstration of intellectual potential, which is often a prerequisite to specialized careers.
I believe Bear Bryant (I think) once quipped " potential can go out and get it's ass kicked". You still have to perform.
Yes well DMG she is young and under parental thumb...
She's not in class yet. She didn't have the chance with high school..
maybe she'll drop out of college. She's already presented beautiful "Kanye traits". ;)
There's nothing particularly profound in her speech.
And nothing prevented her from exploring topics on her own while getting a basic education. She's here complaining about her education when for most of human history a girl her age was very unlikely to have been educated...at all.
Kanye...great, like we need another petulant brat.
http://www.mikekarnj.com/blog/2010/08/11/college-inc/
Yesterday, the Wall Street Journal published an article that stated that “Americans now owe more on their student loans ($830B) than their credit cards ($827B)… He estimates that $300 billion in federal student loan debts have been incurred in the last four years.”
What?! $300B of the $830B came in the last 4 years?! At this rate, we’ll break 1 trillion in no time. To put this in perspective, the US economy is burdened with $4 trillion of excess mortgage debt, which is equivalent to 30% of GDP
These students accepted that debt to obtain a college degree they were assured would mean higher salaries with which to pay off their student loans. However, even now graduates are discovering that those high paying jobs were a phantom; a come-on to lure them into the clutches of the credit companies. College kids are graduating, loaded down with debt right from the start, into a nation whose high paying jobs have been siphoned off to other shores, thanks to tax incentives by the Federal Government. Those new graduates cannot pay their loans off working at McDonald's or WalMart, so eventually those student loan companies will collapse and demand (and get) a taxpayer bailout.
"Actually she'll be going to (you guessed it) university this fall. If she practiced what she mouthed off about, she'd say fuck it and strike out on her own without aid of another "piece of paper". So really she's just some high school chick who is full of shit beyond her years."-DMG
DMG,
She does not perpetrate a fraud as if she had the solution decoded and tucked away in her cleavage. She bravely admits, "...I excelled at every subject just for the purpose of excelling, not learning. AND QUITE FRANKLY, NOW I'M SCARED."
Here she courageously IDENTIFIES the problem. That is the first step. Deny what you have always pretended to be oblivious to.
Her resolution is not "eff it and strike out on her own" as you argue is the crux of her ideas. Dave Chapelle taught the folly of that in Season 2.
http://www.videovat.com/videos/971/chappelle-keeping-real.aspx
That's old World War II John Wayne-Marine strategy, run into a blinding rain of bullets and take that hill. No. She told you she is interested in changing the incompetence of the system.
She says, "let's go get those pieces of paper that tell us that we're smart enough to do so" AFTER she admits, "I HAVE NO CLUE what I want to do with my life."
She admits that she spent her time being "the best slave" and "doing what she was told to the extreme." She envies those that doodled in class to become a great artist or wrote music and lyrics etc.
Still this valiant-dictorian asserts, "Do not abandon those that COME AFTER YOU...WE ARE NOT GOING TO LET TRADITION STAND."
DMG, for this young lady, in these times, to be thinking as she does is something phenomenal. I'm sure a lot of those students in the background (programed to process the world in 3 second intervals) hadn't a clue if she was speaking in Cantonese or Mandarin.
Here she courageously IDENTIFIES the problem. That is the first step. Deny what you have always pretended to be oblivious to.
The problem is that SHE has not, cannot, and will not create anything of value herself.
Her speech is a 1700 word paean to uselessness.
Bottomline, she's simply doing the ritual habitual that got her to where she is, except now her regurgitation clip is loaded with John Taylor Gatto....,
She does not perpetrate a fraud as if she had the solution decoded and tucked away in her cleavage.
She HAS perpetrated a fraud.
Her critique of the system would have been better self-directed and acted upon as soon as she was made aware of the system's flaws in the 10th grade.
"...I excelled at every subject just for the purpose of excelling, not learning. AND QUITE FRANKLY, NOW I'M SCARED."
Isn't that almost the definition of fraud? She wasted an opportunity. She regurgitated facts rather than digested them and made them part of her.
She gave a whiny speech about the "system" when it was she who had the problem. Nothing courageous about it. She's a 17 year old girl who happens to be book smart, and is complaining because she doesn't want to pay dues before she's on top of the world, and because she believes like a baby bird someone is going to drop "wisdom" into her open mouth. Yeah, she gamed the system, got all A's, or whatever, but actually failed the entire point of high school. She never learned anything. Her speech is a bunch of name dropping.
The point isn't just to read a bunch of books, but to build upon older knowledge. Who cares if you study Molecular Biology if you aren't going to contribute to the body of knowledge? And you can't contribute if you don't first learn what is already known...you can't learn about G-protein coupled receptors at homeschool or on the street...
The point isn't just to read a bunch of books, but to build upon older knowledge.
bears repeating.
THAT's the core value of received education
But if your example of "creativity" is confined to doodlers, lyricists, and no-solutions proffering mimetic strippers (modeling fantasies that fools are willing to pay money to substitute for their own reality) - then she's a valiant-dictorian - rather than just another useless, bratty dilettente.
Tangible, substantive innovation and creativity is generated using knowledge of relationships amongst various elements of a problem domain, and taking into account specifics of how a present situation differs from previously encountered ones.
THAT's the core value of received education
Tangible, substantive innovation and creativity explores few possibilities, but chooses them wisely and explores them thoroughly.
Having received education concerning the problem domain, it is then incumbent upon the learner to autonomously evolve one's knowledge and understanding via indispensable self-education - preferably with an eye toward mastery within a problem domain and contribution via tangible and substantive innovation (as opposed to doodling and busting rhymes)
This process is called "heuristic search".
Modeling heuristic search and innovation is what a real teacher does.
Modeling fantasies that fools are willing to pay money to substitute for their own reality is what memetic strippers do.
His Majesty Denmark Vesey Taj Malik Bey (aka Bacon-Bey) is a memetic stripper.
Here ends the lesson for today...,
"The point isn't just to read a bunch of books, but to build upon older knowledge."-DMG/CNU
That's a delicious statement. But only because its a "MSDMG" food adittive. Our only reality is "to build upon older paycheck." Besides, you don't do that yourself. You are a doctor but you study ONLY Western medicine. But you're a doctor. Your profession is health. That's like an American born linguist only studying American English.
You aren't expanding the scope in Western medicine. You are using the same scope with the same eye crust of the person of "older knowledge" that came before you. You know good and well how you'd look up in St. Eligius stick'n acupuncture needles into someone.
"But if your example of "creativity" is confined to doodlers, lyricists, and no-solutions proffering mimetic strippers (modeling fantasies that fools are willing to pay money to substitute for their own reality) - then she's a valiant-dictorian - rather than just another useless, bratty dilettente."-CNU
Its not confined to doodlers and lyricists. Those are her words. She uses those as archetypes of creativity, either for the sake of delivering a coherent speech (to those she may surmise to be a crowd of dummies) or her admittance that she sees only through a high-powered Western lens as she was programmed to do. Her gesture is to identify the alcoholism. No, she does not know what a life without alcohol (petty degree) may lead to, but she recognizes her alcoholic pedigree. First step to recovery.
“Modeling heuristic search and innovation is what a real teacher does.”-CNU
You’re encouraging the unemployment of “real teachers.”
GeeChee,
I'm pretty sure CNu got the last word on this discussion. He was thorough. The teacher has closed his briefcase, and is holding the door open so you can leave. Put your backpack on and ponder his words while you are peddling home.
Come on...that's it get the lights.
...um, one last thing before you unlock your Schwinn, Gee Chee.
"You aren't expanding the scope in Western medicine."
Actually, I'm taking a 5 minute break from doing exactly that.
"You are using the same scope with the same eye crust of the person of "older knowledge" that came before you."
Your "creative" writing is wanting. Do you really think there would be large passenger jets and fighter planes today if aerospace engineers discarded the strides of those who came before them? Do you think Dick Cheney the real life model of Darth Vader would be walking around today with a Heartmate II left ventricular assist device (partial artificial heart) if it weren't for pioneers in the field before?
Come on man, you don't need to get the last word. You've been thoroughly bested by CNu. I just helped. Slap hands, tell him he's right and that you learned something.
"Your "creative" writing is wanting. Do you really think there would be large passenger jets and fighter planes today if aerospace engineers discarded the strides of those who came before them?"-DMG
No, your creativity is sterile. You haven't said anything except the wheel came first, the car second.
...and...?
EVERY civilization borrows from other civilizations. We exist in an organic relationship with each other. Nothing exist in a vacuum. I testify to that position with a sincerity you don't.
Edison only went passed an elementary level if even that. You still using that light bulb* just the same. Interesting that Jay-Z practices an art with autonomous beginnings from institution while symbolically claiming a high school drop-out Rockefeller.
That is the human potential that is denied by asserting failure without "western" institution to reinforce already creative people. Those that fail, you don't connect their failures to the "western" institution's failure. That's unbalanced.
Of coarse if you are a Chinese physician without a medical license you can't work here. You confuse licensing with building on "old knowledge." Even in that the Panthers didn't wait to become certified licensed social workers to bring a breakfast program or licensed lawyers to defend themselves.* Bambatta didn't wait to become a license social worker to single-handedly curb gang activity.
"Do you think Dick Cheney the real life model of Darth Vader would be walking around today with a Heartmate II left ventricular assist device (partial artificial heart) if it weren't for pioneers in the field before?"-DMG
...if it weren't for "desert religion" hospitals & medicine, no Dick Cheney wouldnt have been around to bomb those "desert religions." I never see you acknowledging a pre-1776 world so don't preach that point of "those who came before."
"Bambatta didn't wait to become a license social worker to single-handedly curb gang activity."
How does a hip-hop artist hanging around Panther offices, do what the city of New York with all of it's funding, resources, professionals, institutions etc. cannot do?
...while paving the way for a new genre. Perhaps it's artists that traditionally are the professionals. When you look at medical drawings from the east, they were done by the physicians themselves.
-ibn Sina the PHYSICIAN wrote several hundred works on mathematics, astrology and minerology. Creativity.
"That is the human potential that is denied by asserting failure without "western" institution to reinforce already creative people. Those that fail, you don't connect their failures to the "western" institution's failure. That's unbalanced."
That HEATTT!!!
Gee Chee,
The only thing creative in any of those posts of yours was how you distorted what was said to you. If you are too dense to understand how one must understand basic aerodynamics before one can build a jet engine, or cardiac physiology and biophysics before an LVAD can be developed then there's just no hope for you.
I hope you are a good artist, because critical thinking is surely not your forte.
Heat?? I see you are easily impressed by a jumble of words. I don't think I can handle any more mind numbing absurdities today. I'm going to pack it in early. I'll get at you all tomorrow or Monday.
DV,
The Duckturs and Technos hate you because you keep on exposing their belief in their false education and started calling it by its true nature "vocational training" and we can now see it. :)
You see Bra, the difference between true education and vocational training has been cleverly blurred.
"Here are a few tips on how smart slave masters can control the plantation.
The first principle of people control is not to let them know you are controlling them. If people knew, this knowledge will breed resentment and possibly rebellion, which would then require brute force and terror, an old fashioned, expensive and not 100 % certain method of control.
It is easier than you think to control people indirectly, to manipulate them into thinking what you want them to think and doing what you want them to do.
One basic technique is to keep them ignorant. Educated people are not as easy to manipulate. Abolishing public education or restricting access to education would be the direct approach. That would spill the beans.
The indirect approach is to control the education they receive.
It's possible to be a Ph.D., doctor, lawyer, businessman, journalist, or an accountant, just to name a few examples, and at the same time be an uneducated person. The difference between true education and vocational training has been cleverly blurred in our time so that we have people successfully practicing their vocations while at the same time being totally ignorant of the larger issues of the world in which they live.
The most obvious symptom is their absence of original thought. Ask them a question and they will end up reciting what someone else thinks or thought the answer was. What do they think, Well, they never thought about it. Their education consisted of learning how to use the library and cite sources.
That greatly simplifies things for the controller because with lots of money, university endowments, foundations, grants, and ownership of media, it is relatively easy to control who they will think of as authorities to cite in lieu of doing their own thinking.
Just as a truly educated person is difficult to control, so too is an economically independent person. Therefore, you want to create conditions that will produce people who work for wages, since wage earners have little control over their economic destiny. You'll also want to control the monetary, credit, and banking systems. This will allow you to inflate the currency and make it next to impossible for wage earners to accumulate capital. You can also cause periodic deflation to collapse the family businesses, family farms, and entrepreneurs, including independent community banks.
To keep trade unions under control, you just promote a scheme that allows you to shift production jobs out of the country and bring back the products as imports (it is called free trade). This way you will end up with no unions or docile unions.
Another technique is to buy both political parties so that after a while people will feel that no matter whether they vote for Candidate A or Candidate B, they will get the same policies. This will create great apathy and a belief that the political process is useless for effecting real change.
Pretty soon you will have a population that feels completely helpless, and thinks the bad things happening to them are nobody in particular's fault, just a result of global forces or evolution or some other disembodied abstract concept. If necessary, you can offer scapegoats.
Then you can bleed them dry without having to worry overly much that one of them will sneak into your house one night and cut your throat. If you do it right, they won't even know whose throat they are cutting."-cr
Brilliant!
earwax, link the source of the nonsense you're regurgitating.
Does DMG have plantation education or what? Even most established men of genius (Einstein i.e.) referred to the euational sstem as one of blunting creative thinking and promoting obedience be aproductive worker not a thinking individual. This student has truly been educated and not indoctrinated. It is so difficult to undo "idiot programming". Has there ever been a time where there are enough jobs for college graduates? How long will we perpetrate this system, keep doing the same things, saying the same things, and keep getting the same mind programming results? The comfort zone is very uncomfortable!
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/woes.htm
cr= Charley Reese
DV,
I was reading this today: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/woes.htm
It may or may not be in your reference but if you get a minute, I'd like to know what you think.
Beyond the "blacks and africans have never been prosperous or pulled themselves out of turmoil stance" ...whatdya think? As it relates to here and now. I'm writing around it. I think you might be a cool reference for those things I may have overlooked.
Anyone else who cares to...I'm all ears of course.
http://www.collegescholarships.org/research/student-loans/
Nice..................
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