Denmark Vesey said ...
It's been all the rage within Plantation media and on Plantation Negro blogs over the past couple of days to snicker behind the back of this young black man because he has 8 children and because he seemed to struggle remembering their names during a TV interview.The Plantation, and it's Negros ... love this meme because it reinforces the psychological warfare which paints black fathers and black men as inherently flawed. It portrays them as universally bad fathers and the reason black boys need to be under the thumb of a white football coach or in prison.
Yet, I couldn't help but note the irony of "educated" Plantation Negros & Crackas, who increasingly find themselves resorting to test tubes to make a baby or not making them at all ... laughing at this wealthy young black man, who is doing what wealthy healthy young men have done since the beginning of time. Reproduce. Procreate.
That's like laughing at an apple tree for making apples.
Congratulations Antonio. Make more babies. Feed them natural food. Hustle Hard.
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And most of the Plantation Negroes are jealous that they cant get a chick... most them are probably homosexual lol
DV youz a mufuka
Since you’re glorifying mindless sex, don’t forget Calvin Murphy, Shawn Kemp, Jason Caffey, Evander Holyfield, and Travis Henry. In fact, why not plow up your garden and start your own Hall of Shame, dedicated to these prolific "fathers" in your back yard.
I am in agreement wth Bro Ali, the greeting his daughter gave him was enuff for me(not excluding his fine woman). The portrayal of athletes as "playas" and not " fathers" is the norm. Most brothers these days don't like girls so the haters of "real men" of course will be commenting. Go get a good woman, be a good man, and make and raise sme good babies!
I don't get it. It appears to me the man is thinking about their order by birth dates as he mentions the names. People mistakenly call their children by another child's name all the time. It's not as if he did that.
OK, so he forgot his kids names...
I mean he DOES have 8 of them. It's OK to procreate.
There are 6 different mothers.
OK, he likes a variety of women.
They are in 5 different States.
OK, he likes to travel.
I don't believe in the concept of "legitimate" vs "illegitimate" children. I think that's a concept introduced by European "royalty" in regards to inheriting power and wealth.
My question is how is he going to be a father to all of those kids? How is he going to teach all of his kids (many seem to have been born about the same year...).
Sending money and stuff isn't being a father.
MOTI, how is he going to teach his kids anything?
iChat? Online fatherhood akin to online college? How about it?
"My question is how is he going to be a father to all of those kids? How is he going to teach all of his kids (many seem to have been born about the same year...)."
Is this about a man who chooses to be in the household of his children vs. someone who doesn't?
Because if so, what about the fathers who have no choice?
Like soldiers who work away from home or overseas.
Or men with extremely profitable careers which demand travel.
Or just the men who wanted it to work with the mothers and for whatever reason the mother abandoned the relationship.
You do know doctors that have nannies and little time to spend on family outings, dont you?
Not being cute. I'm just sayin. Fatherhood doesnt always come in one package, right?
If he can be a good father to all those kids despite the fact that they are in 6 different locations and he has to coordinate with 6 different moms and if he can enable them to all have a good relationship with one another than more power to him. I'd be willing to bet that's not the case though. My goddaughter is one of about 17 and counting (I have no idea how many moms) and she is 3 and has never met her father. It's fine to praise this bs but don't forget about the children that this takes a toll on. It's not a black or white issue. All children deserve both parents.
"All children deserve both parents." Pink
That's a myth Pink.
The little perfect nuclear family is a fabrication of Plantation media.
The vast majority of human beings who have ever been born have come from a variety of family situations other than nuclear.
Different fathers. Different mothers. It happens.
I don't feel sorry for the kids who have 1 parent full time and the other part time.
I feel sorry for the kids who have 0 parents because they were never born.
There parents either couldn't or just didn't have them.
That's the sad part if you ask me.
Like Dr. Love said "he greeting his daughter gave him was enuff for me"
"All children deserve both parents." Pink
That's a myth Pink.
The little perfect nuclear family is a fabrication of Plantation media.
The notion that "EVERYBODY" deserves a present Dad is an unattainable meme. A Wild Goose chase.
A present Dad is a BLESSING from God.
Not a guarantee.
The vast majority of human beings who have ever been born have come from a variety of family situations other than nuclear.
Different fathers. Different mothers. It happens.
I don't feel sorry for the kids who have 1 parent full time and the other part time.
I feel sorry for the kids who have 0 parents because they were never born.
Their parents either couldn't or just didn't have them.
That's the sad part if you ask me.
Like Dr. Love said "he greeting his daughter gave him was enuff for me"
O. Mahogany,
Don't make excuses, nobody's talking about coming home late for dinner or being on a 6 month deployment.
8 kids, 5 states.
How is he going to pull that off?
It ain't the same as coming home late for dinner on occasion.
All of your examples are temporary.
"I feel sorry for the kids who have 0 parents because they were never born"
Umm, don't mean to inject details in the conversation, but not being born would mean that they aren't "kids".
What's the point of of planting a seed, if you have no intention of tending to your crops? For a guy like you who continually talks about "get a chick, feed them organic, and teach them", you sure don't adhere to your "convictions".
I don't think anybody should be getting down on this guy, because I agree people are passing this around as "confirmation" of black men being bad fathers. But you don't need to go to the other extreme and hold him up as some sort of ideal father.
Im not making excuses, doc. I'm sure this is about having children vs. not having children.
And thus the argument, at least in this blogosphere, is whether or not black men should procreate under ideal circumstances or not at all. Which is the better decision?.
Considering a lot of children grow up in dysfunctional homes or homes without active fathers or single parent homes I suppose in the grand scheme of things our author recognizes that under extreme conditions....the eradication or serious lack of black men and women is a tall price to pay for men who are paralyzed by fear of fatherhood.
My examples aren't necessarily temporary either. My brother IS that soldier who is stationed not only away from his son but his own dear family and it will be that way for the majority of his career. Does that men I write off all chances of him being a good father? Granted 8 kids makes it a hell of a lot harder but then again Antonio has more dough than my bro.
6 different homes is not ideal but it's a hell of a lot better than 6 abortions- in my opinion.
* 8 abortions
As a woman....
I'm extremely conflicted by having met men who had families with other women who were great and wanted start something with me. It hurts to hear someone has "started without you".
But now that I think about it, it's doubly annoying as hell to meet so many men who have every excuse in the book and map about marriage, let alone a family.
On some real ish... (now in O.Mahfukanaww mode)
these niccas out here talkin about what they want to accomplish, what they need to have, what they want done before they have a family or how they want there home taken care of before and I'm like "what do you think your woman is there for?!"
And then a year or two later they end up having one on accident anyway, usually with some chick that agreed to be their "buddy" while they were on that bull.
And DONT FORGET that most of these farts are still on GET A CHICK status. They dont even HAVE A decent steady chick!! I cant tell you how many wonderful eligible men are out there who are still single at 25, 30, 35?!!!
I mean WAHHHHHT The EF are they doing at home at THIRTY FIVE without a girlfriend, wife or family?!!! LMAO it's insane. it's pathetic.
Maybe it's not as easy as Im making it but it damn sure isnt that hard to fall in love and make a baby. I could have done it twice by now if there were more men with their head in the game.
It use to be that I would tell my girls "dont date a dude with kids"..why settle. lol
Shiiiii now I'm like, if he has kids at least you KNOW his ass will be ready for something serious if he stares his equal in the face.
"8 abortions"
How about 8 condoms?
It's not rocket science.
"O. Mahfukanaww",
Perhaps you should try dating a different quality of man. I don't know anybody (not ONE friend of mine at least) who lived at home beyond the age of 19. Those that don't have a wife, or girlfriend stated they've never wanted a family to begin with (these are few). NONE of my friends have extracurricular babies. And I'm not talking about a bunch of rich high-brow type dudes.
This dude Cromartie obviously has some things to work out. He's 25 years old, and is a great Pro athlete, so for the time being money likely won't be an issue. I hope he's got a really good post NFL plan. 8 kids are expensive over the course of 20+ years.
The sad thing is, there are 25 year olds who also have 8 kids with 6 different women, who AREN'T well paid NFL players, and don't have the financial means (and in some cases not even the desire) to support all of those children.
Making them is not enough. Fatherhood dosen't end at ejaculation.
Most NFL players are bankrupt five years after they stop playing.
We'll see how cute it is to have all those kids (and however any more he has by then) when he's not paying child support to ANY of them.
DMG
I dont date pathetic men. (by the way, I didn't say anything about living at home w/ moms DMG...always reading ish that aint there ;) But I make vivid mental notes of their varied characteristics.
Nope, it's not rocket science but let's not pretend that, there aren't plenty of men who could care less about a condom. Nookie is powerful these days. We only hear about the nfl, nba and hollywood screw ups. We dont hear about the many going on in the average community because admitting ones part in an abortion is taboo.
But you KNOW, doc.
And no, making them isn't enough.
Money isn't enough.
I'm beginning to think having one father is enough anymore.
But the living son or daughter has one thing to be thankful for, even if their parents brought them into a most terrible (extreme) environment.
Most NFL players are bankrupt five years after they stop playing.
We'll see how cute it is to have all those kids (and however any more he has by then) when he's not paying child support to ANY of them.
Fathers lose jobs and large amounts of money everyday. A broke father is a creative father and consequently has more time to spend being a father- the finances.
These kids have mothers, grandmothers, grandfathers, uncles, teachers, preachers. I didn't have ish growin up but an imagination. I cant knock my life for not having what I hadn't experienced as a child. I'm grown now.
It's mothers who b*tch about child support. Kids only complain about child support when:
1. They feel the need to take funds to make up for the lack of a true relationship with their fathers.
Things look good w/ Antonio's bandwagon of kids. Why not leave it at that.
Yes, it is quite the powerful thing. Not powerful enough to make a bunch of unwanted babies for whom I have to pay child support. Not powerful enough to risk mucopurulent penile discharge...
Condoms are cheap, and plenty of places hand them out for free, so there's not damn excuse. The fools who don't care about a condom probably won't care about being there for their kids either. It's called thinking and planning.
"Fathers lose jobs and large amounts of money everyday..."
A broke father with 8 kids, 6 mothers, in 5 states. Why are you comparing his irresponsible ass to men who have lost a job? He's not going to be a father to most of those kids. A REAL FATHER. As much as I spar with our host, I think he's a REAL father. He's there for his kids, and takes an interest in every aspect of their upbringing from what I've read on this blog. That I've never questioned.
"These kids have mothers, grandmothers, grandfathers, uncles, teachers, preachers",
and NONE of these people are any real substitution for a father. They fill a gap, and sometimes it has to do, but it's not the same as dad.
Stop making excuses for Comartie.
Of course mothers bitch about child support. Child support is about feeding and clothing the child. Doing it alone is no picnic. You going to blame the woman for getting pregnant and let the dude off?
Anybody who doesn't step up to his responsibility as a father isn't a man. Period. And I'm not talking about tossing some money at the kid.
LOL!
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And then a year or two later they end up having one on accident anyway, usually with some chick that agreed to be their "buddy" while they were on that bull.
And DONT FORGET that most of these farts are still on GET A CHICK status. They dont even HAVE A decent steady chick!! I cant tell you how many wonderful eligible men are out there who are still single at 25, 30, 35?!!! " O. Mahogany
Get' em Mahogany!!
My friend's brother use to work for child support...crazy stories. In Houston, Tx there is a large Mexican population. One thing I've noticed since high school is their value for the tradition of marriage. Back then when I would also kick it with Latin women they use to scare the hell out of me always slipping in suggestions of marriage and having children. I was like 17 or 18 just beginning to explore college age women. I'm thinking why would I want to be married. That's for old folk.
That is the atmosphere of immediacy we are invested in. This country tries to extend youth. In effect we perform youthful rituals that perpetuate a cycle of repeated mistakes.
Early marriage is such a foreign concept in the black community. I see Mexican families holding it down. Black men are dealing with child support way more than Mexican men. Economically it's smarter to have 8 children with the one woman you're married to as oppose to 8 women you aren't married to. I'm sure seven of those 8 are pissed. Child support functions as interest payments. Debt, public schooling, child support, makes us monotonous and dead. Negroes literally become slaves on their jobs because of child support and debt. Debt makes you afraid to talk back to your boss. You compromise yourself far more than you usually would. Child support is just a vampire. Period. I've raised my son since age 2, he is 10 now. Before my homeboy got remarried he was taking care of three girls and a boy. So I know men can show more of a drive in being in the lives of these kids.
Both parents are responsible I'm not ignoring that, but a woman or the law or whatever should not stop a man from being in their lives. I was set that I'd go out in front of a gun barrel before someone keeps me from my son. If death is an alternative, then you will plot, plan, work out some kind of diplomatic solution to resolve your issue.
But the first step is to approach a woman with concern of a non-existing child as training to be less immediate.
You can pass on to a child what you have accomplished along with the tools for taking it further. To pick up where you stopped. If the child isn't around to receive that...
It's like being an artist. Some artist think if they get as much exposure at every turn that they will eventually get put on. But it's not the number of shows, it's that one important show. If you do fiddy suck shows for the sake of exposure you ruin your chances for that one big opportunity. That's how I see it with having children. You have a lot of kids but you aren't in their lives, you ruin the chances of creating a powerful effective lineage to populate the world with your game plan or ideologies.
Gee Chee,
That's truth
mucopurulent penile discharge...
rotflmbao.....,
This country tries to extend youth. In effect we perform youthful rituals that perpetuate a cycle of repeated mistakes.
Gee-Chee is truth.
Bird's don't teach their young by chirping at them, they teach by example.
Actually, birds do very little teaching at all, but imitation is crucial to what little they do convey.
Moorish science teaches to skeet skeet skeet as many little unattended bastids as your nutsack and your pimping game can handle (until you come up with some of that drippy mucopurulent discharge) and then leave the little muhphuggahs to they mamas and their own devices. Better yet another little ignant bastid to pass on the tenets of Moorish science to, than no more little ignant bastids at all....,
Co-sign Gee Chee
He doesn't seem to have forgotten the names to me either, more like remembering the order they come. My mom used to forget our names and call every single name till she'd say 'you, yea you come here' and we still laugh at her about that.
Gee Chee is TRUTH on the last statement too.
PREACH!
...early marriage works for some societies bec of their value system. Family, not babymaking state to state, is the foundation of the community and it's the ultimate signifier of masculinity or femininity.
O.Mahogany said:
"A broke father is a creative father and consequently has more time to spend being a father- the finances."
Not true. Being unable to financially provide for your kids can be one of the most emasculating things for some men and it can also mean make a man feel disappointed in himself.
This is true within many Asian and African cultures - it brings shame to the man's parents and in some societies the man's family is then expected to step and provide for the man's children.
While it may not be the practice among Black Americans, I'm pretty sure the feeling of disappointment in self exists for some Black men.
KW
Yes. I'm simply stating that doesn't mean he cant be a father. No one has escaped hard times.
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