KonWomyn said...
iWonder what Farrakhan thinks of: *Meles Zenawi*US military influence in Ethiopia/Somali conflict.
*Africa's Guantanamo in Ethiopia.
iFind it a li'l odd that he's talking about the sun rising in the West, yet in the West Muslims are Public Enemy Number 1 and The West is at war with Islamic countries and with Islam in some respects e.g. France (looming burkha ban), Switzerland (minaret ban) and Denmark (Mohammed cartoons).
And most of all to hail Islam in the land of His Majesty & the EOC -that was hard to digest.
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iWonder what Farrakhan thinks of: *Meles Zenawi
*US military influence in Ethiopia/Somali conflict.
*Africa's Guantanamo in Ethiopia.
iFind it a li'l odd that he's talking about the sun rising in the West, yet in the West Muslims are Public Enemy Number 1 and The West is at war with Islamic countries and with Islam in some respects e.g. France (looming burkha ban), Switzerland (minaret ban) and Denmark (Mohammed cartoons).
And most of all to hail Islam in the land of His Majesty & the EOC -that was hard to digest.
Konwomyn,
The West as war with Islam???
Come on... We just has a president that called Islam the "religion of peace" more times than anyone can recall. Is that war talk?
The reality is that the liberal part of the West is very much in collusion with Islam against the diminishing traditional aspects of the West.
This enemy of my enemy is my friend mentality works for both devout Muslims and radical Western liberals.
Their symbiosis is ROOTED in the worship of an autonomous god.
In the West, the unknowable god JUSTIFIES the pursuit of an anti-reality. The anti-traditional order, i.e., the liberal order. In Islam, the worship of the autonomous god MEANS THE WORSHIPPER can do anything REQUIRED to satisfy their god.
In a nut shell, the wills of the radical liberal and the jihadist are bound together in their fundamental desire to ASSERT THEIR WILL and yet at some point the falseness of their ways MUST CLASH.
Fortunately, they still have too much Truth to contend with and so they collude ever so subtly and deceitfully.
"We just has a president that called Islam the "religion of peace" more times than anyone can recall. Is that war talk?" TD
No. But the repeated promises to defeat the enemies of America is war talk.
The repeated promises to make America the strongest nation on the planet is war talk.
The repeated military strikes on Afghanistan and Pakistan are actions of war.
Placing Nigeria on the terrorist watch list are actions of war.
Funding Israel to continue in its acts of terror are complicit actions of war.
Imprisoning over a thousand boys men and women in secret prisons worldwide seem to me acts of aggression and oppression.
"The Holy Prophet knew that racism and white supremacy would be an instrument that would dominate the world and poison the bloodstream of religion; even the bloodstream of Islam.” Minister Louis Farrakhan
So DV, this is what you would consider as “anti-plantation negro as it gets.”
Konwomyn,
One of the ways that radical Western liberals collude with Devout Muslims AND ALSO ATTEMPT TO SUBORDINATE THEM is to deny THEIR AGENCY.
This does two things:
It inflames devout Muslims to fight AND ONLY traditional Westerners are actually willing to fight back while radical liberals scream, "why do they hate us?"
It also allows Islam and its Koran (the COMMANDING text of the devout Muslim) OFF THE HOOK for the murderous ACTS OF DEVOUT MUSLIMS.
Your one sided slant against the West AS A RADICAL WESTERN LIBERAL is evidence of the undeniable connection between radical Western liberals and Islam.
Umm Thordaddy, I'm an African born and bred...iDont quite fit your mould coz iM pretty much anti-Western liberals anyway.
Murderous acts, being what? That which American forces are not guilty of?
Who really bombed the towers?
Who really bombed London?
In retaliation to the +2000 of 9.11how many have died in US initiated wars? How many wrongfully imprisoned?
What's the death toll on American soldiers? British? French?
What's the death toll on Iraqis, Afghanis, Pakistanis? How many have been displaced as refugees now?
Who's profiting from US occupation of these lands?
What's the 'COMMANDING text' of the murderous American govt?
Konwomyn,
In the progression of radical liberalism, anti-Western IS THE ONLY TYPE OF REAL LIBERAL.
To say you are an anti-Western liberal is to be redundant.
The commanding text of the West IS ANTI-WESTERNISM OR A RADICAL AUTONOMY FROM THE WEST.
But people still need relationship and so your anti-Western liberalism is de facto pro-Islam. The symbiosis is real.
Konwomyn,
Even in this current conflict if you were aiming for truth then you would acknowledge that Muslims have been the greatest killers of noncombatant Muslims. The number of suicide bombings number in the THOUSANDS have killed the majority of noncombatant Muslims.
Now, you can argue it would have never happened this way if America didn't "invade."
Ok...
But who would have thought Muslims mass slaughtering other Muslims would be a strategy to defeat the American "invasion?"
Thordaddy
The problem is you're trying to define and categorise me according to a narrow script based on an Western-centric understanding of the world. iDont fit in your mould and won't ever fit. My world doesn't play out according to your script - I make my own, and its foundations are vastly different from yours.
Now you may figure y'self the True American Patriot or the Gatekeeper of Truth - but that is y.o.u and y.o.u.r truth. iDeal with what iSee.
Assuming that's clearly understood, you said:
"Even in this current conflict if you were aiming for truth then you would acknowledge that Muslims have been the greatest killers of noncombatant Muslims. The number of suicide bombings number in the THOUSANDS have killed the majority of noncombatant Muslims."
Re-read and notice I said nothing refuting Muslims had a role to play in the deaths of other Muslim. My argument was to bring to light the role coalition forces have played - which you conveniently avoid, but then wanna tell me about trooooof - *SMH*
And then you say something like this:
"But who would have thought Muslims mass slaughtering other Muslims would be a strategy to defeat the American "invasion?""
??????????????????????
Yea y'got me, iGot no words for that. No words.
Konwomyn,
I haven't defined you.
In fact, I AGREED WITH YOU that you "write your own script."
That's what RADICAL AUTONOMISTS DO...
That's why they are RADICALLY AUTONOMOUS...
They want to write THEIR OWN SCRIPT.
But, YOUR OWN SCRIPT doesn't necessarily equal Truth.
Your claim is that the WEST IS AT WAR WITH ISLAM.
I will concede that there is a smidgen of truth to this BUT NOT IN THE MANNER OF WHICH YOU SPEAK.
The "WEST" that you refer to LARGELY CONSISTS OF ANTI-WESTERN LIBERALS like you.
Real Western man is warring with Islam LARGELY ON HIS OWN HOME TURF.
Those that are "warring" ("enticing" Muslims to mass slaughter Muslims) with Islam ABROAD are many of the same WHO ARE LETTING MUSLIMS IN BY THE PLANE LOAD.
They are ANTI-WESTERN OPEN BORDERS FANATICS...
They are content with Jihadists "writing their own script."
Perverse collusion between radical anti-Western LIBERALS AND ISLAMIC JIHADISTS.
Ok Thordaddy, perhaps you need to take note of the following I thought was obvious from the getgo:
*using the terms coalition forces in reference to The West was in reference to the miltiaries and govts of specific Western countries in 'fighting terror'.
*Citizens in their homes do not 'fight' wars whereever they are on the planet. That is what states and military groups do.
* As I said before being against Western liberalism does not translate in an anti-Western liberal. Twisting things to suit your ideas doesn't change what it is.
* Smidgen of truth? That's funny f'real.
*And yes you too write your own script, unless you tell me your ideology is through prophetic visions with the God you pray to. In that case, I am glad my meditations with the Most High are ones of understanding humanity rather than putting people in boxes.
(Lest I take it forgranted, there is a distinction between visions and meditations).
Konwomyn said...
"iFind it a li'l odd that he's [Farrakhan] talking about the sun rising in the West, yet in the West Muslims are Public Enemy Number 1 and The West is at war with Islamic countries and with Islam in some respects e.g. France (looming burkha ban), Switzerland (minaret ban) and Denmark (Mohammed cartoons)."
What is odd is that you find this odd. But it is also just plain FALSE. You act as though Farrakhan WEREN'T COLLUDING WITH radical ANTI-WESTERN LIBERALS and this collusion seeks WAR with what remains of the traditional West.
What do you think Farrakhan is other than a liberationist Muslim? He seeks radical liberation AS A MUSLIM.
Although Muslims get the benefit of being perceived as following a traditional way of life THAT IS NOT how they ACT IN THE WEST unless it is beneficial to do so.
In fact, the racket is quite clear. Continue to press America and Americans to UPHOLD THEIR LIBERAL WAYS and with demographic shift start pressing for an Islamic way of life on American soil.
Of course,THE RADICAL LIBERAL has not a single principle on which to oppose this CHANGE and so it is the American traditionalist that is forced to fight.
You want to play offended at the ASSERTION of Western liberal WILL while staying completely blind TO THE WILL OF THE JIHADIST.
You want to pretend that those Americans fighting on the homefront are the ideological equivalent to those who continue to say we need to fight over there. And although there is overlap, it is the liberal neocons that are still the staunchest proponents of "democracy in the ME" and it is both left and right liberals that support immigrating jihadists.
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