fist tap Brother MakheruBy EMILY SMITH and CHRIS WILSON
Last Updated: 9:04 AM, April 7, 2010
Tiki and Ginny began dating 16 years ago when both were students at the University of Virginia.
Barber, who turns 35 today, was hired by NBC just after he retired in 2007 -- when sources say he first met Johnson, who was working there as an intern.
In his 10-year NFL career, Barber set nearly every career offensive record for the Giants, and made three Pro Bowls.
His end run on Ginny with the much younger Johnson runs counter to the all-American Barber persona that fans and TV viewers know.
During Giants games, Tiki used to blow a kiss to Ginny in the stands every time he scored.
In his 2007 memoir, "Tiki: My Life in the Game and Beyond," Barber described the example he wanted to set for his kids.
"I want to be an honorable man, because that's what I want them both to be," he wrote, noting, "My family is everything to me."
Thordaddy said...
When one says they were unfaithful, it should not be automatically assumed that this means sexual infidelity. Sexual infidelity has become the gravest of sins BECAUSE IT IS THE LIFESTYLE OF THE ALPHA MALE. And ALPHA MALE is the radical lesbian's eternal nemesis. She wants his sexual autonomy and his ability to tame the vageen. She spreads the KILLER meme that lasso the ding-a-ling. The thing is, MOST DOODS DE-FACTO HOMOS. DV holla, "Get a Chick!" This means most doods just smucks SLAVE to the meme that free the vageen and hide ole girl's spiritual and intellectual infidelity like a smokescreen. And Modern Liberal Woman a CHEATER just by being. But they don't see a thing because they can do anything.
25 comments:
C'mon man...his wife is 8 months pregnant. That's some weak shit. He doesn't want to be there when his child is born? What kind of man is that?
And even he's tired of his wife, actually leaving her for the intern is also some weak shit.
2 sides of every story Dude.
Wealthy men have had more than one wife / woman since the beginning of time.
Maybe the 1 Woman per Man template doesn't fit everyone.
I like it. Works for me.
But if we can be "tolerant" of two-dudes boning each other in the ass ... why can't we be tolerant of a 35 year old man expanding his nuclear family?
Hey, I have NO problem with a polygamous situation if all parties are down. I have considered it myself.
But that's NOT what seems to be happening here. He's leaving his pregnant wife for another woman. That's weak.
He's "leaving her" ... according to whom?
She is living in a penthouse on the Upper East Side.
Kids in private school.
Nannies.
What? Since he added a woman to his life she suddenly has to get a job selling mortgages?
Nah.
He aint left her.
I think the problem here is the UNREALISTIC PERCEPTION OF MARRIAGE that has been forced down the throats of the American people created by an anti-family gender blurring feminist meme which defines proper male behavior as ... behaving like women.
Tiger, for example, was essentially castigated and publicly humiliated for not feeling and behaving as women feel and behave.
He's not a "sex addict".
He is not "flawed".
He may be a little weak when it comes to his Johnson ... but hey ... cast the first stone.
Nah Dude.
Peep the media spin on this one.
In France 10 years ago and the US 30 years ago this wouldn't have even made the news.
Today it's a national crises with subtle implications that indict all heterosexual unions.
Tiki Barber needs to call Denmark Vesey.
Teach him how to say: "Ya'll can kiss my black ass. I'll do what the fuck I want to do."
What I want to know is how the hell this is public information? Why do we have to be up in these people's business? Only they and God know what's gone down in their relationship. Hell she could be a psycopath or maybe lousy in the sack, I don't know that but this really ain't my business. He could be a sex addict though too but that isn't our business!
The family he is leaving will get a huge financial settlement and no doubt he will be in the life of his children; he seems like that type of guy. Enough said.
I feel you DV on this issue, and also polygamy can work IF all parties are down with it. Apparently his WIFE was not down with that.
But I'd be pissed if my husband did that shit to me. Believe me. But I wouldn't make it a public affair either. What happened to the expression "We don't want to air our dirty laundry in public?"
While there is definitely truth in the idea that this is none of our business, folks like Tiger and Tiki have decided to sell themselves and their images to the public as a means of making money.
Just like rappers and actors and politicians, they voluntarily forfeit a certain measure of privacy for the fame and fortune they receive through their jobs.
Now, there can be no doubt that infidelity is typically none of our concern, but in the case of Barber, who has been quite vocal in calling out other professional athletes (Mike Vick) for their misconduct, it feels like the chickens coming on home.
Anyway, on the issue of polygamy. I do not support it. I would also challenge someone to point to a famous polygamist who did not ultimately admit that having a whole bunch of women was more of a hassle than it was worth. David, Solomon and Abrahma would definitely co-sign that sentiment.
Finally, I can't agree with the idea that because you are rich or attractive that automatically means monogamy is a ridiculous proposition if you are a man. Besides, IF monogamy is untenable, then don't promise it to the women you are dealing with. Be like Derek Jeter and tell these women that you are only looking for some short-term companionship, don't go around telling women you love them and only want to be with them forever.
That's stupid and lame.
"I would also challenge someone to point to a famous polygamist who did not ultimately admit that having a whole bunch of women was more of a hassle than it was worth." BigMan
Jacob Zuma
Mao Tse Tung
Mobuto Sese Seko
Fela Kuti
Rasulullah Salallahu 'alaihi wa Sallam (Prophet)
...never heard any of 'em speak against have many wives.
I was told that "Humans are sexually polygamous and emotionally monogamous". I'm starting to believe that's true.
"don't go around telling women you love them and only want to be with them forever." Big Man
Who does that?
That's not how women and men bond.
It's not that simple.
Women choose the men with whom they want to bond.
They choose men for a variety of criteria. "Most likely to remain monogamous" does not appear to be high on their list.
So please ... don't automatically portray "Ginny" as a passive victim who was simply lied to by her deceitful flawed husband.
She know that nigga.
When it comes to marriage the promise is to God, not the spouse.
Promises to people are easily broken. When we make a covenant with God ... a promise to love and care for our spouse ... that is a promise we are less likely to break.
I find hypocrisy Big Man, with the Secular Fanaticism of the Plantation attempting to employ Situational Ethics ... Sometimey Morality ... by casting stones at men who are behaving exactly as they are programmed to act.
A nation that pumps "Desperate Housewives" down the throats of Americans and then pokes its collective lips out at the Tigers, Tiki's and Jesse James' is a punk ass nation.
Want examples of succesful polygamy? Look to the past 10,000 years of African matrimony.
Ya'll missing the source of ire. It's not that Tiki cheated, but that a white woman wrecked the house. And that's the point of modern liberal women. They wreckin' the house.
But now it's the black man's house and one of the perceptively few "stable" ones.
KW
Thanks, I bow to your superior knowledge on the subject, although given what someone posted about Fela a while back, I don't know if he really should be on the list.
DV
You tell me to avoid painting Ginny as a passive victim, then you paint Tiki as a passive victim by claiming he's only responding to his Plantation conditioning.
So the man is a victim of conditioning, but the woman is just a scheming broad who ignored all the danger signs?
Come on son, that's weak.
Sure, the Plantation is full of hypocrisy, but what does that have to do with Tiki smashing other broads while he's married and then leaving his pregnant wife to go shack up with his concubine?
WTH.
When I got married I made promises to my wife and God. It wasn't just to love and cherish, but also to forsake all other women.
What type of vows did you say DV? I'm willing to be they were pretty similar to my own. When your wife made her vows, she made them to you and God. She has a responsibility to both of y'all, and the same thing is true for you. Now, if when you and your wife agreed that monogamy wasn't one of your responsibilities, then cool, but if that was on the list, then abide by the list.
If you don't, then man up and take your lick.
Thor
You think the mainstream media is upset about problems in the homes of black people? Nah, that ain't even close to truth. And I'm positive that Tiki wasn't on the list of "stable" black men according to black folks.
The problem is that white folks had accepted Tiki as a "Good Negro." His conservative views, penchant for suits and willingness to attack other black folks for profit made him a favorite.
Now they find out he got some shady morals and they feel all betrayed.
White folks have a bad habit of creating fantasies about black folks and then feeling betrayed when those fanatasies turn out to be ridiculous lies. Sure, Tiki helped some with the fantasy creation given his books and his comments, but some white ran with what Tiki said and turned him into the archetype of what "good black man" looks like.
Oops on that one.
Big Man and KW, yeah Fela is a difficult case given how he died and all. HOWEVER, he chose to marry all twenty(?) of his wives at the same time which granted them EQUAL status. This is a cultural thing.
Many, many societies throughout the inception of civilization have practiced polygamy. I don't have a problem with it if all people involved are HONEST.
I think you should add Bob Marley to the list because although he only had the one wife, he was a serial philanderer and this was known to everyone. She helped to raise ALL of his children even the ones who weren't hers and she showed them love and respect, so I guess that was a common law polygamous situation.
As to the assertion that men and women don't bond that way...I agree with you too.
MARRIAGE IS A COMMITMENT. MARRIAGE IS A COMMITMENT. MARRIAGE IS A COMMITMENT.
Don't justify a man whoring out on his wife because she is his WIFE.
Big Man, since I don't have a tv a lot going on is lost to me. I don't know anything about this guy except THIS and some sports accomplishments. I had no idea that he called others out for their infidelity. What a hypocrite. That is reason enough for his chickens to come and roost!
I still don't like the invasion of these people's privacy though.
But maybe it teaches them a big fat lesson...
MR
Not calling them out for infidelity, but calling them out when they screwed up.
With Mike Vick, he was in the forefront talking about how Vick was a screw up and horrible for fighting dogs.
Dogs.
Anyway, it's whatever.
"When I got married I made promises to my wife and God. It wasn't just to love and cherish, but also to forsake all other women." Big Man
Congratulations.
You sound like a Christian. You sound like a man with God in your life.
Tiki doesn't.
Judging Tiki based upon your own religious convictions is arrogance Big Man.
That would be like a Muslim condemning you for eating pork.
Ya'll missing the source of ire. It's not that Tiki cheated, but that a white woman wrecked the house. And that's the point of modern liberal women. They wreckin' the house.
But now it's the black man's house and one of the perceptively few "stable" ones." TD
Whachu mean TD?
Why do you say this woman "wrecked the house"?
Sounds to me like Tiki made this happen.
Okay, I gotta concede that point, you're right.
Since I don't know Tiki's religious beliefs and what he professed, I can't be CERTAIN he promised monogamy.
But, I'm willing to take that bet.
And the Muslim comparison falls short.
I've taken no vow related to Islam, nor entered into any practice related to the religion.
Now, I promised to observe Ramadan and was sneaking Cracklin', then the comparison would work.
I'm not judging him as a Christian, I'm judging him as a man who entered into a traditional American marriage. Those marriage usually stipulate monogamy.
Simple enough.
Actually I don't think it's that simple Big Man.
Let's face it.
America is NOT a Christian nation.
Just because one gets married in a church, or mumbles a few words in front of a minister doesn't make it a covenant with God.
Secularism, I believe, is as much a religion, complete with Dogma and faith as is Christianity or Islam.
Most Americans are Secular Fanatics and don't even know it.
God has been eased out of their lives.
The failure of Tiki's marriage and Tiger's infidelity is THE NATURAL CONSEQUENCE OF SECULARISM.
We teach men to behave like Tiger. Like Tiki. The Plantation has conditioned Plantation Negros and Plantation Crackas to have a superficial relationship with God at best.
It is now all the rage to declare oneself an atheist or "agnostic". (I won't say no names DMG, Submariner, Mike Fisher etc.)
What I find abhorrent is this hypocritical consternation and condemnation of men for behaving exactly as they are encouraged to behave.
Tiki is probably about as Christian as you are ... a "Democrat".
A technicality.
A coincidence.
Not really symbolic of anything significant.
I think it would be more productive to examine the consequences of rampant secularization in our society rather than engaging in these masturbatory expressions of condemnation that the Plantation media instigates every week or so.
Tiger's problem is not that he is a "Sex Addict". His problem is that he doesn't have enough God in his life.
Tiki's problem isn't that he is a weak asshole ... it is that he doesn't have enough God in his life.
Both of them could use a few minutes with Denmark Vesey too.
Get the media off their asses.
What makes you think that they subscribe to your version of God DV? Tiger is a Buddhist isn't he? He needs to do some cleansing chants or something...
Universally though, most societies and religions frown upon infidelity. Hell in the Old Testament, infidelity was punishable by death!
Denmark, your comments have me rolling with laughter!
"So please ... don't automatically portray "Ginny" as a passive victim who was simply lied to by her deceitful flawed husband.
She know that nigga.
and,
"...if we can be "tolerant" of two-dudes boning each other in the ass ... why can't we be tolerant of a 35 year old man expanding his nuclear family?"
and
"Secularism, I believe, is as much a religion, complete with Dogma and faith as is Christianity or Islam... Most Americans are Secular Fanatics and don't even know it.
Hot damn, DV! I don't agree with everythang you say on your blog, but I will say this: you got a way of peeling every layer of an onion until you get to the center and everyone's crying.
Love it. Keep challenging us.
Sista KIT!
LOL.
Thank you so much. I appreciate that.
DV... What's the mainstream meme? Alpha male is the enemy. Dood got sexual prowess and it's the root of jealousy. But who stews most enviously...? Radical dykes, cuz they think they the same thing. Sexual autonomy is the name of the game. They equal or so they think. They perpetratin' radical autonomy on the masses without a blink. This is why Modern Liberal Woman gets cheated and then makes a big stink. Because ONLY SHE CAN CHEAT. Alpha males need to lick her feet. Psshawww... These radical lesbos settin' up they hetero sisters for a downfall. Yeah boy, they free to sprawl, get balled, but Alpha male still don't call. How come these ladies can't see what I saw? You break ranks with your King, it's like breaking the law. But Alpha is quite tickled by your insurrection. Yes, Modern Liberal Woman, you aren't given to reflection. If you were, you'd ask, "What direction?" What direction am I going? Don't need a ding, need a ling... Another fruitless fling... Alpha male still doing his thing. Now the sex sting. Ain't got no point 'cept swole the bean. The big bean seeing things. Or lack of things. I can do anything. I do nothing. Alpha male still the King. And you actin' dykish, runnin' that KILLER meme. Alpha male still tame the vageen. Don't hate dykes, YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR DREAMS.
When one says they were unfaithful, it should not be automatically assumed that this means sexual infidelity. Sexual infidelity has become the gravest of sins BECAUSE IT IS THE LIFESTYLE OF THE ALPHA MALE. And ALPHA MALE is the radical lesbian's eternal nemesis. She wants his sexual autonomy and his ability to tame the vageen. She spreads the KILLER meme that lasso the ding-a-ling. The thing is, MOST DOODS DE-FACTO HOMOS. DV holla, "Get a Chick!" This means most doods just smucks SLAVE to the meme that free the vageen and hide ole girl's spiritual and intellectual infidelity like a smokescreen. And Modern Liberal Woman a CHEATER just by being. But they don't see a thing because they can do anything.
"Tiger Woods/Jesse James/Mike Nilon. What do they have in common . . . I found out today that MY husband of almost 9 yrs has been having an affair for 5 yrs with some slut in Chicago. I am devastated!!!! And I have been duped!! Our boys don't deserve this!" -- Actress Garcelle Beauvais-Nilon
A base of the path society reduces humans to nothing more than dogs in heat. They're driven by animal instincts w/o any moral restraints.
But this is the same woman who showed her ass to the whole world in a 2007 Playboy spread. Some call it art, but in this society it promotes indiscriminate lust. It's a tad late to be complaining if the hubby fell into the lust trap.
And what will her sons think of her Playboy spread when they become teenagers?
She should've married a white man. They don't cheat like these blacks.
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