If the government continues to rubber stamp a genetically modified food supply designed to make people obese, make them susceptible to degenerative disease and increasingly makes them infertile ... what difference does more insurance make?Instead of spending $900,000,000 on premiums to insurance companies ... why not spend that money educating people about the dangers of toxic foods and denatured animals? Why not spend some of those billions to build an infrastructure that can produce natural fruits, grains, vegetables and animals?
Hell, give me a million dollars, and I can teach Plantation Negros how to eat in 6 months.
D.Smith said...
I just got off the phone with Barry O.; he said to me "fo' trill brah, we about to go way beyond just a finger in yo' butt for that annual checkup. Put this gown on, spread yo' cheeks and lift yo' sack, cuz we comin' for that dollar dollar bill y'all.". I had to hang up on his ass.Unfortunately my "job" requires that I deal with the insurance companies on the daily; my wife deals with the drug dealers/pharmaceutical companies. If anyone believes for one half a second this bill is designed to benefit the people (even the uninsured...who by the way come in and out of this hospital all day and have access to state funded financial assistance that pretty much "pays" their bills...so what they need this bill for?), is sadly mistaken.
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Com on Bra, you know the meme's . What are we going for next, the "peaceful wars of 2010"? This bill got less to do with Health than H1N1 vaccine had to do with preventing the flu. Stick a label on anything and we just lap up this "Orwellian doublespeak" bullshit.
Hurtcare Bra. Hurtcare.
You got a sense that anything moral in their use of the word care here?
DV, psychopaths and crooks are in charge.
As I have said on a earlier thread, page 354 basically says, fuck my down syndrome son. He will be restricted from enrolling. (Thanks for the kind words Rig.) That's right , nothing new under the sun, the same policies were implemented in 1930 Germany. Let them mugga -fugga's die. Eugenics Bra.
Any one who can't play the head fake game is going to get hurt with this head line : 16,000 IRS AGENTS WILL BE HIRED AS ENFORCERS OF THE HEALTH CARE REFORM BILL
BTW, THE ABOVE STATEMENT IS A FACT, AS IT IS WRITTEN IN THE CBO (CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE) REPORT. 10 BILLION DOLLARS WILL BE ALLOCATED FOR THE HIRING OF BETWEEN 16,000 & 17,000 IRS AGENTS WHOSE SOLE PURPOSE WILL BE TO ENFORCE THE RULES OF THE HEALTH CARE REFORM BILL, REGARDING ENROLLMENT, PAYMENT, ETC.
From a real Doctor and leader, Ron Paul is laying it out also.
If anyone can't believe the access via this bill that the PTB gov will now have to your bank account , better start dealing with your neighbor "check cashing/churches fried chicken" joint. Because thanks to this bill , the real shakedown is on.
When Wax Speaks. Cats Should Listen -
YOU NEED TO KNOW 1)
""Orwellian doublespeak" bullshit."
YOU NEED TO KNOW 2)
BTW, THE ABOVE STATEMENT IS A FACT, AS IT IS WRITTEN IN THE CBO (CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE) REPORT. 10 BILLION DOLLARS WILL BE ALLOCATED FOR THE HIRING OF BETWEEN 16,000 & 17,000 IRS AGENTS WHOSE SOLE PURPOSE WILL BE TO ENFORCE THE RULES OF THE HEALTH CARE REFORM BILL, REGARDING ENROLLMENT, PAYMENT, ETC.
YOU NEED TO KNOW 3)
If anyone can't believe the access via this bill that the PTB gov will now have to your bank account , better start dealing with your neighbor "check cashing/churches fried chicken" joint. Because thanks to this bill , the real shakedown is on.
DeeVee - Have you peeped the Jamie Oliver show trying to teach this one city at a time?
Maaaaaannnn...
My wife called me into the living room about an hour ago. She had the laptop open and was watching the show shaking her from side to side laughing and teasing me:
"You let this white boy beat you to it baby!"
Yeah Black John. Shit aint particularly cutting edge anymore.
What puzzles me is the Plantation Negro skeptics with their lips poked out struggling to reduce or dismiss the overwhelmingly positive and empowering essence of the message.
If black people eating organic natural foods is derivative of 'Lyndon Laruche' ... shiiiiit. We need some more Laruche's.
Oh you didnt know DV, Lyndon LaRouche also has culinary skills. Jamie Oliver is most likely down with his camp. LaRouche be on that Bo Jackson ysh.
LaRo knows natural foods.
I think that British dude is a chef, and from what I saw he wasn't pimping $40 bread, but rather simple easily bought at the grocery store food.
When you get off the designer food kick, I'll back you up.
When you realize anybody with some dirt can claim they are growing "organic" food, I'll back you up.
When you finally come to realize that getting everyone to eat designer food like you is not only a pipe dream, but not sustainable, I'll back you up.
Otherwise, I really have no problem with you wanting people to eat less frozen pizza, and more freshly prepared balanced meals.
The other stuff (anti-vaccine, anti-science, anti-evidence), I still have a problem with.
The other stuff (anti-vaccine, anti-science, anti-evidence), I still have a problem with.-DMG
I havent read Medical Apartheid yet.
It's been sitting on my shelf for a hot minute.
I'm trying to get to it. From my homegirl, I'm told it's historical detailed chronicles of black peoples subjugation to abusive medical practices. Is it so alien for people to have skepticism at the very least? Jews are allowed the courtesy to extinguish and totally discredit any remnants of a Nazi legacy. Are Jews poor examples for the direction of our attitudes?
People believe who they trust. It's not as if people don't have reason for distrust. Isn't this a whole lot about distrust based on a track record. Would you trust a best friend that tries to get with your wife or would you cut him off? Aren't domestic principles parallel with social principles?
I just got off the phone with Barry O.; he said to me "fo' trill brah, we about to go way beyond just a finger in yo' butt for that annual checkup. Put this gown on, spread yo' cheeks and lift yo' sack, cuz we comin' for that dollar dollar bill y'all.". I had to hang up on his ass.
Unfortunately my "job" requires that I deal with the insurance companies on the daily; my wife deals with the drug dealers/pharmaceutical companies. If anyone believes for one half a second this bill is designed to benefit the people (even the uninsured...who by the way come in and out of this hospital all day and have access to state funded financial assistance that pretty much "pays" their bills...so what they need this bill for?), is sadly mistaken.
D.Smith
DV,
Nobody wants to address the issue of why is Congress and the Senate Exempt from this Bill?
Second while everyone is celebrating.....Riddle me this...... the bill does not in effect until 2014.... Yet, we ALL will be taxed immediately -like now! 2010.....mmmmmm.
Cash Flow baby!!!
I think y'all are over-simplifying and doing what Republicans do - talkin' out yo ass.
D. Smith, what is your job?
non-care related administrative overhead...,
"I think y'all are over-simplifying and doing what Republicans do - talkin' out yo ass."
"Republicans". lol. (like there is a dimes bit of difference)
But. Maybe you are right.
Please. Share with us your take:
^DMG. Account Rep at a local hospital.
D.Smith,
So you are in medical billing. How much money does an insurance company make if they deny or delay payment on a claim for even one month? How much time do you spend sitting on an automated line waiting to process claims, confirming they have the correct NPI, mailing address, etc? And from what state funds are you accessing to pay for those who cannot pay (because it's not an unlimited supply of money)?
One of the questions I had to ask breast cancer patients when I was in training was their income level. Why? Not because I was going to toss them out of the office, but I had to know so we could figure out if we were going to take her entire breast or just the lump of cancer. If she wasn't able to afford radiation treatments...there was no other source of funds to pay for them after our grant ran out...which was usually about mid year. Although the treatments were equivalent, one had a more devastating effect on the woman...having to walk around with one breast...without subsequent reconstruction.
Not that I want to put you out of a job, but we spend too much money on inefficient medical billing. I have to pay someone like you to get reimbursed from an insurance company who is more than happy to drag their feet, because they are able to make more money that way.
The insurance industry is a for-profit industry, that doesn't give a rats ass about putting a family under a mountain of debt...even if all the premiums are paid, and all the paperwork has been done meticulously.
Am I for this new law 100%? No. There were better alternatives...that would likely never survive the politics of Washington, or the 24hour news cycles, or pre-election year politics. Instead we got an insurance reform bill, which I find is a start.
So DMG, looking at the points you've made regarding the insurance companies and their lack of desire to pay these claims, do you not think the problem will increase tenfold now that everyone is "required" to have the insurance? Simply from that perspective, how does this effect your ability to effectively consult these patients? Or will it be moreso of a "get 'em in, get 'em out" type of situation?
This morning I was listening to a discussion on Pacifica radio regarding legislation they are trying to add to this bill, in regards to compensating doctors for the time they spend consultating Medicare recipients. The doctor they were speaking to, who is totally in favor of this bill, stated that many doctors now do not do any real consultation with these patients because they do not have the time. She stated that with providing reimbursement, this could change, but in the same breath mentioned them not having the time due to volume...so how will that be any different?
The truth of the matter is the insurance companies are more interested in collecting your premium rather than paying your claim; you see that yourself with how you described them. I don't see how, from this perspective, herding people to the doctor with their newly "required" insurance, is going to help matters. There are a vast number of other issues besides this I'm sure; I'm speaking on what I see day to day.
Most people I deal with now don't even know how their plans work..pay every month for it. I see one more person trying to use their Medicaid card like a debit card, boy I'm liable to smack somebody in the mouth. Where's the education in this bill? Where is any bit of focus on prevention? They're talking about stopping applications being denied for pre-existing conditions; what about your claim being denied for the same thing after you've already subscribed to the plan and have been paying the premium for months?
For me I guess there are just a lot of unanswered questions, including the ones that were posed before regarding Congress being exempt and the hiring of what, 19,000 some "agents" to help regulate the thing. And the fact that it's not really going to be up and running for another four years, but you'll be paying for it now. The government having their hand in it doesn't really help matters for me either.
That was my response to DMG's post...name didn't make it.
-D.SMITH
That's good stuff D.
A look from the inside out.
But what does it tell us?
Let's all pool our money together ... to fund this GIGANTIC bureaucracy ... that can't possibly make anyone HEALTHIER.
It just manages their sickness.
That would be like if we all gave the government $600 each month ... and when we got hungry ... the government would PROVIDE us food.
Is it just me ... or is the whole thing absurd?
Why not KEEP THE MONEY instead of giving it to the government .. and SPENDING IT ON OUR OWN HEALTH?
Somebody help me please.
Anonymous,
First, pick a name. Please, you seem to have something worthwhile to contribute.
My practice doesn't change at all. I'm fortunate that I'm not an internal medicine or family practice physician who needs to see 60 patients with small or only maintenance complaints per day. We'll still have busy clinics, and lots of ER consults to do.
You are correct, Medicare (let's not confuse Medicare with Medicaid...another discussion) does not reimburse physicians very well for a variety of things. However, the alternative is that many of these people will avoid seeing a physician because of lack of insurance and inability to pay out of pocket until their disease has gone from mild to severe...and then require more costly care.
"what about your claim being denied for the same thing after you've already subscribed to the plan and have been paying the premium for months?"
That happens now. It's happening right now actually. I've not read about that specific detail, but we can explore that if you like.
Why does Congress being exempt bother you? Right now they have fantastic healthcare coverage, while many people have none. What's the difference? It's 541 people out of 300 million.
"The government having their hand in it doesn't really help matters for me either."
So you'll trust the government with defending the nation, but not healthcare? Postal service actually does a pretty decent job. We have the one of the safest food supplies in the world (despite the moaning and groaning on this website). Honestly, "government having THEIR hand" has become cliche. We've made it so that one must be very wealthy and have a spotless record from kindergarten to get elected. We look for scandal, and what church they belong to instead of the persons qualifications to manage a nation. We are government. We get what we deserve.
D.Smith, sorry hadn't seen your last post.
D.Smith,
Don't let our host fool you. He's not interested in healthcare. He believes that ALL illness stems from not eating an overpriced designer diet full of pink pakistani salt, chiapet seeds, and grains grown lovingly by new age rastarfarians in the backyards of their Bel Air mansions (financed by their trust fund and sold direct to you for a 5000% markup). He's pushing products, like some Amway salesman.
If inadequate food were the root cause of all illness, it still wouldn't make much sense. Community acquired or viral pneumonia doesn't care if you've been eating chia seeds, or just a regular normal healthy diet. Hypoxia and/or hypoventilation requires intervention...as does appendicitis...as does a heart attack, brain tumor, congenital diseases of all types and flavors, etc, etc, etc.
MOTI, you already know you are beyond help.
DV, I agree with you. And if we were paying the government to provide us with food, I don't think I'd want to eat it. We won't get into that though (as I put kale and cucumber in ye ole Jack LeLane Power Juicer).
DMG, I don't totally trust the government with anything in particular. I don't think their intentions are always for our best interest, regardless of how they present it to you. I know you probably think a lot of people come on this site and run with whatever DV says or posts, but I'm not the kind of person to take any one person's word for anything. I'll hear you out, then do my own research. My skepticism of this bill is primarily based on my own everyday experiences.
I'll just leave it to what Gee Chee said earlier. Looking at the track record, how can you NOT have some skepticism?
Now I have to get back to getting yelled at by people who want to know why they have a deductible, but would rather have me tell them instead of the people they pay every month.
Well...at least you get to work from home, or near your juicer.
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