DMG said ...
"Is that sista behaviour?"Who knows, nobody has ever said what "sista" behavior is. While we are at it...
Erykah Badu yes or no?
Great music, what would generally be considered "conscious" music. However, unmarried, three kids, three different baby daddy's (as has been suggested here, this may qualify as "un-sista" behavior).
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Doctor,
I know this is not an appropriate place to ask, but I figure it's about time we start talking about shit that really matters.
Did you hear about the boy Jordan McFarland, a high school athlete from Alexandria, Va., who came down with a reported case of Guillain-Barre syndrome within hours after receiving the H1N1 vaccine for swine flu?
Not sure if this has been discussed on this blog already. Pardon me if it has. If not, please do me a favor and look it up and tell me what you think. It was both on Fox and MSNBC, I don't know if that means anything to you. Gracias.
I know I might sound partial here bec it's Erykah, but things need to placed in context. What makes one think Erykah Badu was not married? That a man and a woman with a spiritual bond have a child to symbolise that bond is how she defines marriage not through a ceremony, ring and certificate. Understand her marital status by how she sees it rather than on your terms; gees she'd prolly ask you what is marriage?
She had Seven with Andre3000 and it seemed like it would be a lifelong communion of souls, but sadly it wasn't.
The father of her other child Puma, was a relationship (not marriage in Badu terms) that didn't work out; she knew he wasn't the one but they had a kid anyway.
Her third was with Jay Electronica and they've been together for two years now - c'mon a brotha as musically gifted as Jay! Only thing I'm mad at her is naming her kid Twitty Milk - what???
Anyway all the fathers of her children play a part in their children's lives and have access to them. I've not heard any stories of her being a bad mama.
It's funny how someone says Sista Erykah has three baby daddies, using her as some model to judge "sista/un-sista like behaviour" yet he is the very one who said, "sista is not a word; it is meaningless". Baduizm's reply to that is: I am the embodiment of meaningless because meaninglessness is meaning.
...one
Radical Autonomy,
What is marriage?
What is Twitty Milk?
You take the meaningful and make it meaningless by questioning it's legitimacy and you take the meaningless and make it meaningful by attaching it to something that has meaning. Marriage is less known and Twitty Milk is more known. Radical autonomy is at play, subconsciously or consciously.
WOW... I finally understood something TD talks about and actually kinda agree. Weird.
But I don't think its taking meaning out of marriage, but ascribing to another meaning of marriage. As far as I knw Lauryn Hill and Rohan Marley are married as Rastafarian Brethren and Sistren but have no rings, no ceremony and no certificate; their children are their bond. Would radical autonomy be at play to a Rasta who doesn't believe in church or civil marriage because it's Babylon?
But KW, Lauryn Hill's picture is not up here. No one was discussing her relationships. Man, I was trying so hard to get out of talking about this subject.
"Would radical autonomy be at play to a Rasta who doesn't believe in church or civil marriage because it's Babylon?"
TRUE DAT!!!!
if Radical Autonomy be defined by an institutionalized system...God help us...only through ones own understanding of a higher and truer concept of union....call it RA if ya like...in this case RA is for the greater good....consensus of institutionalized idiots makes for regression rather than progression nor can it be for the greater good
NEA,
I know, but she was an example to illustrate that marriage is not defined one way. Erykah is a 5 PerCenter and some of her ideals share some commonalities with Rastafari; marriage being one of them. Of course she articulates her overstanding of marriage differently to a Ras, but my point was to ask ThorDaddy how his understanding of radical autonomy would view that.
it has and always will be that:
IT TAKES A BROTHER TO "SEE" A SISTA!!
and i'll add contrawise...........
Well dx, my man. I'm a Sista so I guess I will never see it!
"I'm a Sista so I guess I will never see it!"
if you a sista? you'll see it...it right there in heart and mind...quiet da noise
OK. It's all love here. BTW, I was using my definition of a "Sista" there.
@NEA
i hear ya...if it moves you in a direction that your heart mind and conscience is at peace..use whatever definition ya like...
peace
do you understand,
everything you see,
or is there more,
to what you perceive,
or is all that matters,
what you believe,
closin’ your mind,
to what you conceive,
da fact remains,
your mind contains,
falsehoods, n’ trained,
to see life through,
the eyes of blue,
you live lies,
as though it’s true,
nature though,
has a way,
to correct da mind,
from da sway,
bring it back,
from da fray,
levelin’ it – gray,
so, to perceive,
plantation meme,
as science to believe,
will destroy n’ deceive,
as da magician weave,
his web of deceit,
cant see,
da forest for da trees,
havin’ ill conceive,
da notion,
that matter is all,
you see,
peace
wow dx
was that off the top of the dome?
@Anon
appreciate appreciation.........
Extreme liberalism that compels one towards radical autonomy (total and absolute nondiscrimination and tolerance) is largely a white Western phenomenon, although, as evidenced here at DV it can be adopted by anyone. It is in the nature of radical autonomy to monopolize.
Having said that, I doubt many Rasta marriages are the attempted union of two radical autonomists that deny absolute Truth. Clearly, many marriages in America stand in as nothing more than an ode to normalcy and a tactical cover by a radically autonomous population that says, "what is normal?"
ThorDaddy,
It seems then that by accepting Rasta marriages then you accept its critique of the institutionalization of marriage. Cool. Erykah Badu's questioning of marriage is in the same frame.
But what is Truth and what is absolute Truth? Would praising Haile Selassie I qualify as absolute Truth to a Christian who believes in God? Or to a Muslim who believes in Allah? To the Rasta the Bible, the Kebra Nagast and speeches of His Majesty are scripture. To the Christian, scripture is the Bible and to the Muslim it is Koran. How then does absolute Truth function to all three, assuming there is only one Truth?
Forget what is "black" or "sista" behavior...and focus on what is SMART.
A child has a better chance in life when raised by two parents. So if the parents are committed enough to marry, then that at least gives him a 50 percent chance he'll have two parents in the home by the time he graduates high school.
I didn't understand how serious marriage was till I got married. And I didn't understand how serious married with kids was till I had some.
Marriage is HARD. But giving your kids the best shot in life is worth it.
If a guy wants to have a baby with my daughter but won't marry him, I will kick his heart out of his chest.
Wait a minute... Are we really comparing Ras Tafari (A man) to God/Allah? This is getting interesting.
dx,
Nice rhymes by the way! See this is why I love your blog DV.
Konwomyn,
People can redefine marriage anyway they want, but this doesn't effect the Truth of marriage as a God-ordained man/woman union. In fact, the only motivation for turning away from this Truth is an immersion in homosexuality or to simply serve one's radical autonomy.
Again, what is a Rasta marriage rooted in? If it's not absolute Truth and indestructible then either will be the marriage. A marriage rooted in autonomy (self-definition) either requires a compromise on meaning (an impediment) or two different ideas of marriage. Which is to say one doesn't have a "marriage."
that dude is truth.
accept no substitutes.
That dude,
Well said! Thank you for some sense.
True. That Dude is truth.
Thordaddy
I see some contradictions here; an atheist who abides by marriage as a union for life is not a radical autonomist - even by your definition but a new age spiritualist chooses to 'compromise' the meaning of marriage as an expression of the Creator's will, is as you say a radical autonomist.
What abt when God-ordained marriage is polygamous as some Muslims, Christians and Rastas believe? Is that still Truth?
And coming back to the three religions as I asked above of God/Allah/Jah is Truth absolute or relative?
the union btween male and female is by definition true union...nature testifies to this...the corruption comes when men seeks to define/label this union....then seek to institutionalize it and create creeds... accept that which is testified by nature
nature testifies the "word of the divine" NO material product could ever truly define "TRUTH"
it is simply a representation of what our finite minds can comprehend...we not THAT smart
seek that which is for the greater good.....at best....that's a start
KW
you're a thinking sista!!!
i like that!!
Maybe we should compare Jah to JC and not God. I believe rastafarians are monotheistic and believe in one God. Ras Tafari himself wrote this:
"unless [one] accepts with clear conscience the Bible and its great Message, he cannot hope for salvation,"
Konwomyn,
An atheist can invoke marriage and not believe in it's existence the same way he invokes God before denying God's existence. Meaning, atheists (self-evident radical autonomists as they deny absolute Truth while positing their supreme relative truth) simply use the cover of marriage to give their atheism a sense of normalcy. This explains the homosexual's desire to get state sanction, but not put his hand on the Bible and engage in REAL marriage. These are radical autonomists who deny the legitimacy of God-ordained marriage by questioning its real meaning as they simultaneously desire the normative cover that marriage universally conveys.
The problem with that dude's truth is that it doesn't go far enough in answering the questions that face us. Like, are same-sex parents equivalent to REAL parents?
The radical autonomist... What are REAL parents?
Everything and everyone is now questionable. This is radical autonomy.
KW,
"What makes one think Erykah Badu was not married? That a man and a woman with a spiritual bond have a child to symbolise that bond is how she defines marriage not through a ceremony, ring and certificate."
Personally, I don't think people need a certificate in front of a judge, preacher, or Imam to have a man-woman/husband-wife bond...but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about YOU ALL's thoughts on marriage.
But, KW, what you wrote amounts to an excuse...after all that you all have written about marriage etc.
I like Erykah Badu's music and stage performance too. But why are you making exceptions? And, read closely, I never judged her, I asked YOUR opinion, so don't jump to conclusions while making excuses for Ms. Wright.
Thanks for the love, y'all.
dx,
Thank you. You're a poetic brotha, I like that!
NEA
The comparison of Selassie I remains because Rastas pray to His Majesty. Rasta worship RasTafarI as King Creator. Christians pray to God, others to both Jesus and God others to the saint. My question for Thordaddy and those who share his views on absolute Truth is how one reconciles absolute Truth with God who's called by many different names and embodies many different figures.
Thordaddy,
No, an atheist can invoke marriage and believe in it's existence but not as holy matrimony. Some agnostics believe in the sanctity of the union but not neccessarily a holy one.
A religious polygamist as I asked you upthread believes in God-ordained marriage. This contradicts your belief in marriage as a God-ordained union btwn man and woman. Therefore by your standards a religious polygamist is sinful and par exemplar of your radical autonomy. Not so?
If absolute Truth is how one affirms their faith in God and His existence, it suggests to me a kind of monotheism that recognizes one God - what about polytheistic indigenous beliefs? What about the different figures of God between a Rasta, Muslim and Christian as I asked before.
And lastly indeed what are "real parents" - in a polygamous family the concept of parent means something very different to those born of a monogamus union. Or in a non-nuclear, non-Western family? The concept of "Real parents" largely depends on where one is in the world and the prevailing culture.
To an extent; what is real is relative not always universal. That's why questioning is always neccessary - not in denial of that which God-ordained but to do away with normalizing that which has already been ordained by God.
Normalizing means allowing a dominant order to exist; that which recognizes monogamous unions to the exclusion of all others, that which suggests there is an absolute to that which is real as meted out by those with the power to enforce it as thus.
For anything to be absolute it requires power and dominance over others - and to that effect those dominated others have their notion of the real silenced and marginalized meaning that 'real marriage' is only 'real' within the monogamous and montheistic confines you lay down.
So...I'm waiting for someone to address the original question.
Anyone?
KW answered.
Y'said it's "an excuse".
That dude said forget "sista"
And spoke the Truth.
dx said, if you're a brotha you wld knw.
But I guess y'missed that.
Thordaddy spoke on an anutha kinda level.
Catch up, son.
Konwomyn,
Answering you on the phone is getting a little difficult and so I will respond later when I can get to the laptop.
KonWomyn,
I asked a simple yes or no question. But instead of an answer, I get rhymes, discussions of rastafari marriage, perseveration...
Is that rhyme your answer? Because it doesn't address the question.
Ok cool Thordaddy.
DMG,
Nah that was just a kwik summary of what happened in class while you were away. If you'd re-read, my response, sans the inquisitorial aggro attitude, you'd know my answer.
It is not a simple yes/no - yes/no on whose terms? Qualify that. It is not a case of being unmarried because she was not neccessarily unmarried. Dre was her soulmate and Jay was another and she had kids with both of them. Whether its "sista behaviour" (assuming you know what the term sista means) to have kids with two different soulmates and another brotha depends on the circumstances. From here on, I'm sure you can Google the answer you want.
Just facts, no 'excuses', no poetry, no rhymes.
KonWomyn,
I could care less what unruly students do, while the teacher is running late. I gave a simple assignment, nobody answered the question. Don't assume you'll know my response to your answer.
"It is not a simple yes/no - yes/no on whose terms?"
My question, my terms. Quit stalling and answer this very simple question. It's only your opinion. This isn't a condemnation of Erykah Badu, or a celebration of all that's great about marriage. Our host (and you've participated) holds up marriage in high regard. That's great, no argument there.
Now answer the question.
KW,
I'll even help you out so you don't have to scroll:
"Is that sista behaviour?" (actually I believe this is YOUR original quote...KW).
Who knows, nobody has ever said what "sista" behavior is. While we are at it...
Erykah Badu yes or no?
Great music, what would generally be considered "conscious" music. However, unmarried, three kids, three different baby daddy's (as has been suggested here, this may qualify as "un-sista" behavior).
Waiting....
Dude,
Delusions of grandeur, you are but a lowly student searching for answers. Real talk.
You asked quoting moi and I responded by breaking down your kwestin to being an issue of marital status and number of partners.
Now take a breath and re-read slowly ok:
It is not a simple yes/no - yes/no on whose terms? Qualify that. It is not a case of being unmarried because she was not neccessarily unmarried. Dre was her soulmate and Jay was another and she had kids with both of them. Whether its "sista behaviour" (assuming you know what the term sista means) to have kids with two different soulmates and another brotha depends on the circumstances.
=>This is where you come in and Google some 'facts', as you're a man of facts, about Ms Badu and her soulmates.
KonWomyn,
You made a simple question into some stupid fight. Why? You assumed how I would respond next. I'll now assume that you are doing nothing but avoiding.
Sometimes you should just answer the question straight instead of getting all up in arms.
Weak.
You also assume these men were here "soulmates". Like you are in this woman's head, or were her closest friend. That's fine. Even IF THEY WERE her soulmates, that is inconsistent with your making or agreeing with previous statements made here about marriage.
I say there's nothing wrong with Polyandry...but I suspect you know that's NOT what's going on. This is serial monogamy (monogamy is assumed). The only difference between black unwed mothers with multiple children by multiple fathers (and I'm making NO judgements on any of these women), is that Ms. Wright is famous and has a decent amount of cash. Now if you are saying cash cancels out all that other stuff and allows "sista" status, that's fine. As "sista" is still a meaningless term.
You are only proving my point by not answering yes or no.
Bottom line:
You made previous statements that are inconsistent with accepting Erykah Badu outright as a "sista".
THAT IS WHY YOU AREN'T ANSWERING SIMPLY, AND WHOLE HEARTEDLY YES.
If you were to answer in the affirmative you'd be called out.
Why do you think you can pass off some pseudointellectual babble on me and think you'll get away with it?
Have you learned NOTHING yet?
That's why you are a student. I'll prefer that you address me as Professor DMG from now on...thanks. Now take your seat.
LOL!!! Get back on the Prozac.
I asked you to please provide details of her relationship so one may judge what kinda person she was. What I said abt Yoko Ono was based on what I read of her and her relationships with her daughter, Julian Lennon and John Lennon. From what I've read in her interviews she did consider those fellas in that way - hence the term. (For one who claims to read alot and deal with facts you sure don't seem to act like it) I've not read anything as yet abt Ms Badu to that effect, but if y'got it please copy and paste. These are the facts, rite?
Nah my answer really has nothing with her status or the qsn of serial monogamy, really more to do with how she behaved in those relationships.
If undecided will do for now till you bring forth the info or someone else does, I'd much prefer to resume the other discussion we were having.
KonWomyn,
My serotonin reuptake is just fine thank you. But you may do well with a 0.5mg of Ativan if my questions are making you nervous...
Well, let's see if KW is consistent
1. (In reference to a picture--actually just a profile-- of a woman she knows NOTHING about)
"This is one beautiful SISTA. Pictures can convey such a powerful messsage that words can't quite express.
So, KW sees a picture of a woman she doesn't know, comes to the conclusion of "sista". This is fair, as KW is making up the definition of "sista".
2. "I asked you to please provide details of her relationship so one may judge what kinda person she was". (stalling tactic, assuming I won't waste my time on something so trivial). In reference to Erykah Badu's relationship with the fathers of her children.
KW knows enough about Ms. Erica Abi Wright to know the names of the men in her life and can confirm that they were her "SOULMATES", but doesn't have enough information to declare her in or out of the "sista" club and is "undecided"...after all that handwringing, and excuse making.
That isn't very consistent. KonWomyn, to require only a picture for one woman, and a biography of a woman with whom, I'm SURE, you are much more familiar.
Maybe you should just revisit your critera for conferring "sista" status. Or better yet, throw in the towel and admit you are trying to have it both ways.
"I'd much prefer to resume the other discussion we were having"
...umm Erykah Badu is the subject of this thread..specifically the question of her "sista" status...
Konwomyn,
It just seems that a life-long commitment that exemplifies all the essence of a life-long commitment is preferable to all other alternatives. Only radical autonomy could serve as an articulated rival. It would state that no life-long commitments were preferable. Therefore, the default state for all those that don't believe in the Supremacy of a life-long commitment must necessarily assert the preferability of multiple and indeterminately lengthy "relationships." By definition, when one makes a commitment it is forever. In short, the radical autonomist can make no commitment. That's why a "sista" can't be radically autonomous. She must make a lifelong commitment to the truths of being a "sista."
So if we apply this thinking downward then a life-long commitment (in the marriage context) must be assessed between a single individual or multiple individuals. Can one really make life-long MARRIAGE commitment to multiple women? It seems these multiple marriage commitments serve as a radical autonomist's attempt at ending commitments while still appearing to be committed. Meaning, with multiple and equivalent "commitments" the radical autonomist merely goes through his bevy of women highly committed. The fact that he cloaks it in God's Word is hardly surprising. In principle, radical autonomists are allowed to do anything.
DMG
That's some mismatching you've done there. I think you're compounding things here and some seperation is neccessary.
1. First of all there's a diff btwn a picture of someone and the behaviour of a person whom I already consider a sista - think you missed the Sista Erykah ref uptop.
2. Secondly knowing something abt someone bec you've read interviews or seen them on Mtv doesn't mean they'll spill the beans abt their bizness. I know stuff abt Solange or Kerry Washington, but abt their relationships and whom they're with is based on what they say.
3. The question regards sista-like behaviour not whether she's a sista or not - which she is. Whether her behaviour in those relationships was sista-like is the qsn at hand.
4. The issue of single motherhood.
peace
That's why you are a student. I'll prefer that you address me as Professor DMG from now on...thanks.
ah,ha,hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
Professor DMG is truth.
Accept no substitutes.
{oh, and Badu is just another childish failure incapable of sustaining a mature adult relationship and toiling for status on behalf of an industry which extracts the being-possibilities of very nearly everybody it gets in its clutches}
sista?
FAIL!!!
...so instead of simply confirming that you believe Erykah Badu in fact a "sista" you go through all this other stuff?
A simple yes would have sufficed. Now to your other stuff.
"Secondly knowing something abt someone bec you've read interviews or seen them on Mtv doesn't mean they'll spill the beans abt their bizness"
Precisely. (which makes me wonder why everyones getting up in Tiger Woods and Elin's faces like they know them...soul in the eyes my ass). This applies far more to a picture, because a picture says absolutley nothing about what that person is thinking...only assumptions out of full context.
You have NOT defined "sista" adequately to debate with any authority about "sista" behavior. Tomorrow you might get out of bed and declare any woman who uses a hotcomb on her hair is no longer a "sista". Silly but possible.
Single motherhood. Has no bearing in my book about the worth of a woman, as different situations may lead to this state. The only part that matters is the "mother" part.
Pleasant evening KW.
KW,
I understand, and hope TD put things in perspective regarding that.
So that we don't confuse or mislead anyone, the point I was trying to get across was that it is being presumptuous to say that Lauryn Hill and her man believe Ras Tafari (A man) is their God/Creator. And their marriage is rooted in that belief. When in reality most rastas have moved away from this new-age belief and Idolization of Selassie I. Modern rastas see him as merely a prophet.
So for rastas (not all) christianity and Rastafari are essentially the same. Bob Marley himself got baptized into the Ethiopian Orthodox Church before he died. And he could not have done that if he hadn't denounced his belief in Selassie I as God/Creator.
I am by no means saying I know exactly what Lauryn Hill believes but I doubt she believes this man is her creator. And the rastas I know personally, certainly don't believe that either. But I don't know that many so that's not saying much.
Bob Marley himself got baptized into the Ethiopian Orthodox Church before he died.
one of the communions in true Christendom.
everything else is ersatz confusion or outright perversion.
recognize truth.
accept no substitutes.
NEA said
"in reality most rastas have moved away from this new-age belief and Idolization of Selassie I. Modern rastas see him as merely a prophet."
That's not true. I don't know what a 'modern rastas' is, among devout Rases there are different houses: The BoboShanti, Twelve Tribes and the House of Nyabinghi.
The House of Nyahbinghi recognises HIM as the RasTafari King Creator whereas the Twelve Tribes see His Majesty and Bob Marley on par. The Bobos hail Emmanuel Charles Edwards as the Black Christ, but Haile Selassie I is His Imperial Majesty. I rose with Rastas of the different mansions - tho' mostly Binghi Ites and have experienced life as Rastafarian in three different countries where Haile Selassie I is the Head of the Church.
I'm not a 'heavy dread' anymore but I still call myself Ras and see HIM as a "prophet"; more an example of if God were to come as Man. As for Lauryn and Rohan - I don't know what they believe of Haile Selassie I, but they do believe in marriage as the bond btwn man and woman.
KW,
Didn't know you were one before. That's cool. Sorry if I offended you in any way. But yes for sure there is no unified Rasta church or fixed set of beliefs. I'm definitely no expert. But still wanted to point out that we can't assume what they truly believe.
CNu,
You're amazing!
DMG,
Evidently I'm not as thick-skinned as I like to think I am, but the way you went on, really got to me so I folded, but more than that, what you and CNu said stayed with me after and I really resented being called out like that and losing face. Good for you, your tactic worked. The reasons why I avoided giving a definition isn't bec I don't know what I'm talking abt, has more to do with the prospect of a bruised ego than anything else. And now that's been bruised, I can at least try save my rep as an articulate person, so here goes:
For me a sista is a woman who knows her self worth, she has a spiritual and historical sense of self; her intelligence, creativity, strength and feminine beauty mark her unique presence in the world. She is not color-blind but color-sighted because pretending one doesn't see color is like pretending she doesn't see herself in the mirror. To do so would also be a willful blindness to the fact that race is a social construct that can only be deconstructed through an awareness of how race functions.
She loves herself, her man and her children; understanding that these three elements are fundamental to her existence as ordained by The Creator. If a sista and brotha fail to work it out, the bond between them created through the children remains sacred. If a sista doesn't have a brotha it in no way means she's not a sista - it's a feminine quality.
A sista loves her family, her community, cares about the earth and does what she can for the upliftment of her people. A sista is a revolutionary; as fierce as Assata or as passively resistant as Rosa Parks. Even in the everyday struggles of living day to day she still holds it down; regardless of what she does for a living, or what part of the world she's from or what ethnicity she is.
What distinguishes the term sista from woman is the feeling that the word sista conveys; saying sista is like describing someone as a phenomenal woman as Maya Angelou does in her poem. To me, the music and person that is Erykah Badu embody that; her 'inability to hold down a relationship' is something one cannot judge her on without knowing the particulars.
Dre himself said he was 'scared of marriage' (yea I did the search) and there are probably other issues there, but it takes two to build a lifetime love and it takes two to destroy it. Even if one scrutinizes the personal details of her life, to what end? To qualify her for what she is already?
Her music and her persona are built on an Afro-centric ideology of what it is to be a woman. That she has successfully inspired other young women to realise their own self worth, from a life of wanna-be Li'l Kims or channelling some depressive personality is to be celebrated.
Say what you wanna, but Ms Badu is raising sistas through her music. The concept of 'sista' is a cultural product marketed and consumed today evolves out of a long history that harks back to the enslaved African roots of Black music and resistance; today the term draws on this history (among others) for political and cultural capital, as does Ms Badu.
In the same way Bob Marley, Josephine Baker, MJ or Fela Kuti are hailed as Legends despite the shortcomings and controversies of their personal lives, the same is true of Sista Erykah Badu.
...one
KonWomyn,
Very well articulated. It takes a very strong person to write what you wrote. Thank you for your definition, and humility. Much respect to you.
DMG
Thank you very much DMG, that's very nice of you to say and shows you're a dignified person. I think sometimes we all get caught up in flexing our egos - I guess this blog is viral like that. But you're alright by me Doc, no disrespect intended just sometimes the ego talks more than the brain ; )
peace
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