Nobody is talking anything vs. anything. Did you NOT state"
"What's blacker than Ethiopian?".
But it seems I've often read you glorifying the achievements of Ethiopia never, in my recollection, mentioning any of the vast other people occupying the mother continent, who share about as much culture, language and phenotypic anatomy with Ethiopians as they do with Estonians. I'm just asking you to check yourself here.
Yea DV did take that comment a li'l too far, but this is also a dangerous statement that needs to be checked too: "the vast other people occupying the mother continent, who share about as much culture, language and phenotypic anatomy with Ethiopians as they do with Estonians"
...Salif Keita, Ali Farka Toure, Youssou Ndour, Hugh Masekela, Baaba Mal and Fela Kuti - a few of many African musical giants.
My quote about the "vast other people" is factually correct. It's long been a mistake to think that the inhabitants of our home continent are a homogenous people, all striving for some "Black" or "African" unity. Folks in Mali have more genetic homogeneity with Europeans than they do with Zulu's from the southern tip of the continent. Why anyone would think a continent twice the size of Western Europe would have less diversity is beyond me. Check it out for yourself. Or hell, ask somebody from Eritrea or Somalia how they feel about Ethiopians...and they are more closely related.
DMG, Nah, I know all about that I'm from Zimbabwe born n bred - well take away 5yrs spent at varsity in CapeTown, South Africa. It's annoying that pseudo-Africa my Africa peops who like to think of only pre-slave Africa as though it gives them more sense of being African or tout Walter Rodney as the neocolonial gospel to understanding contemporary Africa, despite how ill-fitting a Rodney analysis might be. Sadly, that's why some of these people seem to think Mugabe is a hero - but fall short on criticizing him for his human rights abuses and economic plundering of the country...
I'm interested in genetic similarities between people - one professor was telling me that if a West African man spent 20 years in Germany - when he died you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. And if you compared the DNA of a Papua New Guinea man with a Nigerian - both unmixed - you can't tell them apart.
Depends on what you are looking at genetically. We share over 99% of our genes with chimpanzees. And I don't think where this man spent 20 years would have an impact on his genome. And the reason you can't tell much of a difference between Nigerians and Papua New Guineans is simply that they are both human. But, I disagree, you would be able to figure out from where they originated to some degree of precision and accuracy.
Color of skin and hair type are only a tiny part of our genetic makeup, but makes a large impact on how we view people.
Getting back to our hosts original commment. It his his opinion that Ethiopians are the pinnacle of blackness, I happen to disagree (as is my right to have an opinion) and wonder when he plans to talk about groups other than the Egyptians and Ethiopians.
I too find the deification of Mugabe unsettling. Although I believe nations should be governed by the majority, license to commit murder and human rights abuses based on past racial abuses is not justified.
It's long been a mistake to think that the inhabitants of our home continent are a homogenous people, all striving for some "Black" or "African" unity. Folks" DMG
Uh.
Who thinks any such thing?
I don't even know any marginally intelligent children who think like that.
"Getting back to our hosts original commment. It his his opinion that Ethiopians are the pinnacle of blackness," DMG
lol. Not exactly. I think I'm the pinnacle of blackness.
I simply asked, "what is Blacker than Ethiopian"?
I have yet to view a response.
The celebration of what we call Ethiopia and what you call "east Africa" is actually a celebration of the birthplace of humanity.
Not an example of nonsensical sectarian and irrelevant ethnic partisanship.
While you and your white boys inventory "genetics", I am interested in the roots and origins of ideas and memes more than the measurement of noses and hair texture.
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DMGizzle! Gorgeousity... Im vibin' fam for real
Saw Salif in Boston a few years ago...out of this world.
Would have loved to have seen Fela Kuti before he died, and still hope to see his son Femi.
Ali Farka Toure is on my car CD right now.
Alot of good music...and even some Ethiopian stuff, but West African music is what I like most.
Listening to Talking Timbuktu as we speak.
50 Cent's new album "Before I Self Destruct" is next up in the iTunes. Followed by an Itzhak Perlman sonata.
I'm from the planet Earth. Don't promote no certain section.
That West Africa vs East Africa meme is as Plantation Negro when a MD pops it as it is when a Crip pops that West Coast vs East Coast nonsense.
Nobody is talking anything vs. anything. Did you NOT state"
"What's blacker than Ethiopian?".
But it seems I've often read you glorifying the achievements of Ethiopia never, in my recollection, mentioning any of the vast other people occupying the mother continent, who share about as much culture, language and phenotypic anatomy with Ethiopians as they do with Estonians. I'm just asking you to check yourself here.
You asked the question, I answered it.
Talking Timbuktu with Ry Cooder is OK, but I prefer the undiluted Ali Farka Toure.
Yea DV did take that comment a li'l too far, but this is also a dangerous statement that needs to be checked too:
"the vast other people occupying the mother continent, who share about as much culture, language and phenotypic anatomy with Ethiopians as they do with Estonians"
...Salif Keita, Ali Farka Toure, Youssou Ndour, Hugh Masekela, Baaba Mal and Fela Kuti - a few of many African musical giants.
KonWomyn,
My quote about the "vast other people" is factually correct. It's long been a mistake to think that the inhabitants of our home continent are a homogenous people, all striving for some "Black" or "African" unity. Folks in Mali have more genetic homogeneity with Europeans than they do with Zulu's from the southern tip of the continent. Why anyone would think a continent twice the size of Western Europe would have less diversity is beyond me. Check it out for yourself. Or hell, ask somebody from Eritrea or Somalia how they feel about Ethiopians...and they are more closely related.
DMG,
Nah, I know all about that I'm from Zimbabwe born n bred - well take away 5yrs spent at varsity in CapeTown, South Africa. It's annoying that pseudo-Africa my Africa peops who like to think of only pre-slave Africa as though it gives them more sense of being African or tout Walter Rodney as the neocolonial gospel to understanding contemporary Africa, despite how ill-fitting a Rodney analysis might be. Sadly, that's why some of these people seem to think Mugabe is a hero - but fall short on criticizing him for his human rights abuses and economic plundering of the country...
I'm interested in genetic similarities between people - one professor was telling me that if a West African man spent 20 years in Germany - when he died you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. And if you compared the DNA of a Papua New Guinea man with a Nigerian - both unmixed - you can't tell them apart.
KonWomyn,
Depends on what you are looking at genetically. We share over 99% of our genes with chimpanzees. And I don't think where this man spent 20 years would have an impact on his genome. And the reason you can't tell much of a difference between Nigerians and Papua New Guineans is simply that they are both human. But, I disagree, you would be able to figure out from where they originated to some degree of precision and accuracy.
Color of skin and hair type are only a tiny part of our genetic makeup, but makes a large impact on how we view people.
Getting back to our hosts original commment. It his his opinion that Ethiopians are the pinnacle of blackness, I happen to disagree (as is my right to have an opinion) and wonder when he plans to talk about groups other than the Egyptians and Ethiopians.
I too find the deification of Mugabe unsettling. Although I believe nations should be governed by the majority, license to commit murder and human rights abuses based on past racial abuses is not justified.
It's long been a mistake to think that the inhabitants of our home continent are a homogenous people, all striving for some "Black" or "African" unity. Folks" DMG
Uh.
Who thinks any such thing?
I don't even know any marginally intelligent children who think like that.
"Getting back to our hosts original commment. It his his opinion that Ethiopians are the pinnacle of blackness," DMG
lol. Not exactly. I think I'm the pinnacle of blackness.
I simply asked, "what is Blacker than Ethiopian"?
I have yet to view a response.
The celebration of what we call Ethiopia and what you call "east Africa" is actually a celebration of the birthplace of humanity.
Not an example of nonsensical sectarian and irrelevant ethnic partisanship.
While you and your white boys inventory "genetics", I am interested in the roots and origins of ideas and memes more than the measurement of noses and hair texture.
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