Tuesday, September 29, 2009

Michael Fisher said...
DV is just descending into a spiral of inane stupidity and it seems some folks here insist on spiraling right along with him. No wonder. Levitating Shamans and all. While white school kids indeed beat and shoot other white kids to death as repeatedly happened in Germany, for example, my point ain't about black or white, my point is about the hypocrisy of the Uncle Tom coonism of the man who hides behind the ill-deserved moniker DV and who glorifies exactly the type of behavior displayed by these youth in Chicago, as long as they do the same in the context of rhymes, drugs, and guns. That a coon like "DV" is allowed to start talking about possible racist spinning of this savage murder of a black boy without challenge from "progressive" folks here is a sign of despicable inanity.

CNu said...
More black babies will die in Chicago due to inadequate, unavailable, or poor neo-natal and post natal care in the first year of their lives than are killed by these street thugs.

So where’s the outrage?

The yearly murder rate for young black males was 152 for every 100,000 people (between the ages of 14 and 29) between 1987 and 1989. Hispanic males were slain at the rate of 102 per 100,000, six times the 17 per 100,000 rate of whites that age.

According to a 2006 report from the Chicago Department of Public Health, the infant mortality rate (from birth to 1 year old) in Chicago stood well above the national rate at 9.6 deaths per 1,000. That converts to a figure of 960 per 100,000. When you add in the number of babies who die before they are born – that number doubles.

True progressives here, there, everywhere - strive to THINK and ground our judgements in data.

My man BT exemplifies the true progressive steez. These practices leave us free to enjoy the antics of reactionary, non data-driven, wannabe autocrats.

Y'all gassy muphuckas funny as hell. Stay mad cause you can't arm-twist DV - or anybody else with a lick of sense - into agreeing with your reactionary noise. Predictably, your histrionic outrage winds up on DV's front page as a mirror reflecting and lampooning your views and bilious personages.

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CNu said...

More black babies will die in Chicago due to inadequate, unavailable, or poor neo-natal and post natal care in the first year of their lives than are killed by these street thugs.

So where’s the outrage?

The yearly murder rate for young black males was 152 for every 100,000 people (between the ages of 14 and 29) between 1987 and 1989. Hispanic males were slain at the rate of 102 per 100,000, six times the 17 per 100,000 rate of whites that age.

According to a 2006 report from the Chicago Department of Public Health, the infant mortality rate (from birth to 1 year old) in Chicago stood well above the national rate at 9.6 deaths per 1,000. That converts to a figure of 960 per 100,000. When you add in the number of babies who die before they are born – that number doubles.

True progressives here, there, everywhere - strive to THINK and ground our judgements in data.

My man BT exemplifies the true progressive steez.

These practices leave us free to enjoy the antics of reactionary, non data-driven, wannabe autocrats.

Y'all gassy muphuckas funny as hell.

Stay mad cause you can't arm-twist DV - or anybody else with a lick of sense - into agreeing with your reactionary noise.

Predictably, your histrionic outrage winds up on DV's front page as a mirror reflecting and lampooning your views and bilious personages.

Michael Fisher said...

Nulan...

"More black babies will die in Chicago due to inadequate, unavailable, or poor neo-natal and post natal care in the first year of their lives than are killed by these street thugs."

Yes? And what does this circumstance (which, of course, could be remedied by a first rate national health care system which your coon DV opposes) have to do with your Farst-and-Birdeye-ass-kissing Coon "DV" suddenly coming out and pointing out potential racist spin in the media of this slaughter of a young boy while worshiping the ground of fake Gangstas who advocate the murder of said black youth? The Coon who says that true anti-establishment rebellion is flipping a kilo of crack in the black community?

Pray tell, Craig. Since I'm exceedingly dense, explain it to me. S.L.O.W.L.Y

Thank you

Undercover Black Man said...

Predictably, your histrionic outrage winds up on DV's front page as a mirror reflecting and lampooning your views and bilious personages.

Just as long as the key information penetrates people's consciousness, Craig. To wit: 13 percent of the U.S. population is committing more than half of the homicides. It is the defining crisis of black American life.

Oh... and thanks for the 20-year-old crime data, hoss. Hope you didn't pull a muscle doing that research.

rotflmbao....,

CNu said...

Mike,

What does DV's pointing out the spin have to do with what you're protesting so personally and energetically? What is wrong with his assertion taken as a "thing unto itself"?

CNu said...

Oh... and thanks for the 20-year-old crime data, hoss. Hope you didn't pull a muscle doing that research.

rotflmbao....,


that shit funny Mr. Glamorous life.

But when you recover from your faux hilarity brah, tell me something.

Did your girlfriend go with you to get down that fine sushi?

or is your gustatory experience generally a mirror image of your sexual experience?

Undercover Black Man said...

^ Shouldn't you be whipping up some broccoli salad for the girls' volleyball team instead of worrying about who I took to Sushi Nozawa the other night?

CNu said...

rotflmbao...,

I see, the chef and your appetite kept you company...,

Michael Fisher said...
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Michael Fisher said...

Nulan...

"'What is wrong with his assertion taken as a "thing unto itself'?"

It's like Nathan Bedford Forrest bemoaning the loss of liberty as a principle. When hypocrites take up a subject they usually ridicule, like racism, they do so to retain respectability they do not deserve. "DV" consistently sides with the most racist and chauvinist characters on this site. Farts is only one of his racist heroes. Byrdeye, the other, and the same folks he decries as "ruthless Zionists and Jews who have taken over the world" are his heroes when it comes to the dreck that is being perpetuated by the "rappers" who they bought and paid for to advocate exactly the type of mentality that underlies the murder of this young black man.

That guy just ain't qualified, Craig.

makheru bradley said...

So where’s the outrage?—Cnu

Temporal and passing in the case of Derrion Albert; non-existent in the face of the horror of Afrikan American infant mortality rates.

The limits of tyrants are proscribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress—Frederick Douglass

Obviously our endurance of the tyranny of senseless and preventable Black deaths has not reached it limits.

As bad as the death of Der
rion Albert is, and it’s horrible, taking place outside of a community center named Agape (of all things), the Roseland community has seen worse.

Remember Robert “Yummy” Sandifer—11years old; 4-ft., 8-in., 68-lb; murderer of 14-year-old Shavon Dean; killed by a 16-year-old Cragg Hardaway, who was accompanied by his 14-year-old brother, and father- to-be, Derrick Hardaway in Chicago—Roseland—1994.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,981434,00.html

Such deaths are nothing new.

“More young Black men died from homicide in one year (1977) than died in ten year of the Vietnam War.” – Dr. Amos N. Wilson

[In July 2007, shortly after one of the most notorious killings of 16-year-old Blair Holt, then Senator Obama said: "Our playgrounds have become battlegrounds. Our streets have become cemeteries. Our schools have become places to mourn the ones we've lost."]—Guardian UK

Ironically, as a 24-year-old the current POTUS actually worked as a community organizer in the very community where Darrion Albert was killed. He has first hand knowledge of this violence, but his only programmatic solution so far is a proposal for twenty cities to replicate the successful Harlem Children’s Zone.

As usual the death of young Darrion Albert will lead to candlelight vigils, and angry rhetoric against the violence which took his life.

Some organizations which have sprung into existence as a result of the violence will protest. Most of organizations have meager support, except for candlelight vigils.

I’ve attended several of these vigils organized by local groups such as Mothers of Murdered Offspring, Stop The Killing, and Stay Alive Till 25.

Anti-violence activists are forever hoping one of these outrageous crimes will lead to a Rosa Parks—moment, an incident which ignites a movement against this violence and self-destructive behavior in general.

I’ve been on drug patrols with Stop The Killing, walking through dangerous communities shining flashlights on drug dealers, video taping rich white people in BMW’s purchasing crack, and racing back to the burbs. They don’t have so far to drive these days, since they’ve gentrified large swaths of the inner city.

The drug dealers quickly learned to move their business elsewhere while we were on patrol and return after we left. Most people who lived in the communities we were patrolling were reluctant to support our efforts. After all, they had to live in those neighborhoods, and quite frankly there were scared of retaliation. Remember the Angela Dawson family in Baltimore.
There’s strength in numbers, but the numbers, so far, are not there.

The fundamental premise of the White Supremacy Dynamic is that Black life has no value. Far too many Afrikan Americans have internalized that premise, apparently to the point of being desensitized to Black deaths.

Thus the tyranny of senseless and preventable Black deaths continues to run rampant in our communities.

Denmark Vesey said...

That's a touching story Mak.

Lame. Weak. Sentimental. Emasculated. But touching.

Barack Obama aint "done nothin'" huh?

What, pray tell, would you have the Massa N Chief do, to prevent young black men from killing each other?

Seemed as if your selfless, "Stop The Killing" sloganeering and community organizing didn't work back then, what would you do today?

I would apprehend the young men and turn them over to the male friends and male relatives of Derrion Albert. I would allow them to exact justice any way they chose. Publicly and on video tape.

I propose all non-violent drug offenders be released from the prison system. Immediately.

I suggest drugs be decriminalized and taxed.

I suggest drug tax revenue be used to create community banks that in turn finance community businesses.

I suggest a national Get A Chick campaign encouraging young men and women to marry and build families.

Instead of prosecuting "drug dealers" and shining lights on them, I would recognize them as talented entrepreneurs and go-getters. I would offer them other career choices with which to lay down their hustle and employ their can-do attitudes.

Open-ended invitations to the Plantation to ... "do summin'" is an invitation to commit genocide.

makheru bradley said...

I would apprehend the young men and turn them over to the male friends and male relatives of Derrion Albert. I would allow them to exact justice any way they chose. Publicly and on video tape.-- DV

You wouldn’t do shit, cause you ain’t doing shit, other than running this bullshit on your website.

Seemed as if your selfless, "Stop The Killing" sloganeering and community organizing didn't work back then, what would you do today?—DV

I would do the same thing I’m doing today—manhood training and recidivism reduction.

What, pray tell, would you have the Massa N Chief do, to prevent young black men from killing each other?—DV

The community organizer Barack Obama ran into a stone wall trying to organize Roseland in the 1980s, so he as POTUS knows the primary solution to the problem better than anyone.

[The Calumet region — basically the farthest southern reaches of Chicago plus the suburbs in northern Indiana — was an industrial area that had been hard hit by the closings of Wisconsin Steel and other industries.

Kellman and the churches hoped to get some of those jobs back.

But there was a problem in the Chicago part of the equation. The area involved, around the Altgeld Gardens housing project and the neighborhood of Roseland, was nearly 100 percent black. Kellman was white, as were others who worked for CCRC.

So Kellman set out to find a black organizer. He ran an ad in some trade publications, and Obama responded.

The long-term goal was to retrain workers in order to restore manufacturing jobs in the area; Kellman took Obama by the rusted-out, closed-down Wisconsin Steel plant for a firsthand look. But the whole thing was a bit of a pipe dream, as the leaders soon discovered. “The idea was to interview these people and look at education, transferable skills, so that we could refer them to other industries,” Loretta Augustine-Herron told me as we drove by the site of the old factory, now completely torn down. “Well, they had no transferable skills…”

That, of course, was one of the reasons the steel mill closed. And it became clear that neither Obama nor Kellman nor anyone else was going to change the direction of the steel industry and its unions in the United States. Somewhere along the line, everyone realized that those jobs wouldn’t be coming back. So Obama looked for new opportunities.

As he looked back, he believed that, on one hand, he had trained some good people; Loretta Augustine-Herron, for example, told me he inspired her to go to college, which led her to a satisfying career. But on the other hand, Obama seemed to realize that it was very, very hard to get anything done. “He didn’t see organizing making any significant changes in things,” Jerry Kellman recalled.

The solution, Obama felt, was to find a way to political power of his own.

When he left for law school, Obama wondered what he had accomplished as an organizer. He certainly had some achievements, but he did not — perhaps could not — concede that there might be something wrong with his approach to Chicago’s problems. Instead of questioning his own premises, he concluded that he simply needed more power to get the job done. So he made plans to run for political office. And in each successive office, he has concluded that he did not have enough power to get the job done, so now he is running for the most powerful office in the land.]—Byron York September 8, 2008

The first thing I would have done was to have your “God’s Son/Massa N Chief” develop a stimulus package which actually created jobs where they are needed the most, because as we all know the number one solution to violence reduction is legitimate employment.

If electoral politics really gives one the power to do things, then the person sitting at the pinnacle of political power has no excuses. If not, then Obama has been chasing a pipe dream, and could just as well have continued as a community organizer.

Denmark Vesey said...

"I would do the same thing I’m doing today—manhood training and recidivism reduction." MB

Manhood training
recidivism reduction
Community organizing
Creating jobs
+______________
Social Engineering Bullshit

Unless you are a Mau Mau warrior with a band of Kikuyu ... "manhood training" means raising your own sons to be men.

I'll compare the products of my "manhood training" to yours any day of the week. Mak heru.

Father + Mother + Husband + Wife Raise Sons.

Your Liberal Utopian Socialist Fantasy ... even with a Bone In Its Nose ... is a Hegelian wild goose chase.

Outsourcing the role of fathers and husbands to the collective, to the state, to community organizers, has never worked and never will.

It was never designed to build men. In fact, that type of social engineering was designed to divide the family, make men superfluous and allow the state to play Daddy.

"If electoral politics really gives one the power to do things, " MB

Obviously it don't.

Politically Obams is a dupe. Spiritually he is God's son.

Problem is cat can't serve two masters.

His only chance is to effectively walk away from the political process and appeal directly to the American people spiritually.

makheru bradley said...

I'll compare the products of my "manhood training" to yours any day of the week. Mak heru.-- DV

That would be like comparing a mole hill to a mountain--one nuclear family to various communal projects.

Anonymous said...

"Unless you are a Mau Mau warrior with a band of Kikuyu ... "manhood training" means raising your own sons to be men."

dv killed him

makheru bradley said...

"Unless you are a Mau Mau warrior with a band of Kikuyu ... "manhood training" means raising your own sons to be men."

And what would a person who demonstrates reactionary masculinity know about manhood training, in Kenya or America?

Your statement is Blind Bourgeois Bullshit--given the fact that 65 percent of all Afrikan American children are being raised in single-family homes, overwhelmingly headed by females.

Someone has to socialize fatherless males to be men.