Friday, August 28, 2009

KonWomyn said...
DMG Me a racist? No different to who?

ROFL! You're hilarious! Seriously I'm laughing Bra, but here's a li'l advice in the interest of maintaining your pietous image STOP with the superficial comparisons and drop the finger too. Its an undignified, embarassing contradiction of your moralism...

To you ethnicity may be 'just a description' but that's what governs power relations between the slaved and enslaved and (to an extent) btwn the minority/invisible majority in the US and Europe.

Needless to say; the possibility of reversing these social configurations of power through symbols such as art or film alone is enough to make : ) And before your fingers start typing that silly r- word again & start the furious fingerwagging which is sooooo unbecoming; my response would be the same if I'd seen something like this at Journey, the anti-sex slavery art exhibition in London last year.

When it comes to activism against sex slavery and people traficking - look for my scrawl in petitions and check my cred with European feminist groups, Bra I'm there. Where you? Or y'some armchair activist in between hospital shifts crying foul at images like this, yet when faced with real injustices you do nothing, but sigh shame and squirm?...IF that's what y'do then keep your sorry coz I think y'need it more than those in bondage.

peace

19 comments:

Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OntWGW3Ek5w - scene from "white man's burden" starring belafonte & travolta

KP

DMG said...

I don't know why you put this up. African's weren't and are not today the only people enslaved. There are 27,000,000 people in slavery today. Each year 5 million children are sold into slavery. Ethnicity of the slave is irrelevant. And of course we are only ONE race, and that is human.

Constructive Feedback said...

http://parallelhood.blogspot.com/2009/08/racism-that-didnt-happen-white-girl.html

Denmark Vesey said...

"There are 27,000,000 people in slavery today." DMG

Au Contrare Mon Frere

There are 27,000,000 slaves in CA alone.

Today, slaves number in the billions Bra.

I contend any man who offers up a vein to the Plantation, to be injected with a cocktail of viruses euphemistically labeled "vaccines" to "protect" him from a man-made synthetic virus, is by definition - a slave.

DMG said...

I'm not so imprecise with my definitions. And I don't take the term slavery lightly. I'm not joking. A picture of a black man whipping white people is no less disgusting than the other way around. When are you going to get off the vaccination thing, you are like broken record you have nothing new to say.

Denmark Vesey said...

Nor are you particularly deep Doc. Your literal interpretation of the piece is pedestrian.

"When are you going to get off the vaccination thing." DMG

That's like asking a Jew in 1942 Germany "When are you going to get off the Zyklon B thing"?

Doc you ever heard of Tuskegee Experiment?

What do you suppose happened to the Negro doctors of that time? Why didn't they sound the alarm to protect black people?

KonWomyn said...

"A picture of a black man whipping white people is no less disgusting than the other way around."

Uh mmm 'kay DMG. This is a picture, the other way around is reality - which of the two is more 'disgusting'?

If it were a picture of a Nigerian or Albanian girl standing over a bunch of Italian sex slave masters would you be filled with the same 'disgust'. Would gender be 'irrelevant'?

If slavery is slavery where ever y'go then the interpretive lens required here is of specificity rather than a universalizing approach that borders on a dangerous revisionism of the African experience...Pix like this never fail to put a : ) on my face.

one

DMG said...

MOTI,

Do you not read your own archives? I've written quite a bit about Tuskegee on this very page. You obsess over all things vaccination, but facts (again) are not on your side. You bring up the SAME topics over and over. Why not come at it from a different angle?

KonWomyn: People of African descent have BEEN slaves, and OWNED slaves. People of European ancestry have BEEN slaves and OWNED slaves. The picture of a black man using a whip on what appears to be white people cowering is filthy. If it puts a smile on your face, then you too are filthy minded. Slavery is slavery, if you condone this picture then you condoned what happened to my ancestors...and what is happening to millions of people of all different shades all over the world. I give people who condone slavery the finger. I wish I could type one for you now.

cnulan said...
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CNu said...

Why not come at it from a different angle?

Give him a minute to organize these new thoughts..,

and while you're waiting,

please hold forth with your own regarding the application and utility of a vaccine which engenders an immune response to crucial female reproductive subsystems?

mere discretionary birth control?

or serious compulsory population control?

KonWomyn said...

DMG you can try till you die but sticking a finger up is utterly meaningless to me. Flex your finger muscles to engage in intellectual conversation 'kay... You don't get my point or the point of the picture; its resistance art, among other things...I condone universalizing assumptions which have the tendency to want to reduce the sufferings of one group over another. That's why I said if it'd been an Albanian or Nigerian girl I'd bet your response would be very different. Trust.

DMG said...

So KonWomyn condones slavery of white people? Well I suppose that also makes you a racist, not different than the slave catchers who trolled the west coasts of Africa. You still get the finger. Explain your point better and I'll retract my finger. Call it what you want. Switching places with the slave master to enslave others is inhuman. So my response would have been the same. I'm human first. My ethnicity is just a description. You can display your "resistance" art all you want, and use the word slave to describe your cubicle job or whatever. There are millions of people at this very moment actually IN bondage. Are you doing anything about it? Do you care? Or is it just another one of those things that doesn't affect you personally. I'm sorry, in light of the fact that millions of small children are sold into bondage for labor or sex slavery and cannot be tracked because there's no record of their birth, condoning slavery in ANY form is filthy minded thinking and the picture is offensive.

DMG said...

CNu,

It's a novel idea, but if I remember my signal transduction pathways, hCG is an agonist for a g-protein coupled receptor. There are alot of GPCR's and the beta subunit are supposed to be fairly specific, however there may be the possibility of "cross-talk" between hCG and say another GPCR like TSH (thyroid stimulating hormone). I don't think alot of folks would buy it. Also permenant sterility isn't necessarily desirable for alot of people, so I wonder if there'd be a market for this. If the vaccine isn't profitable, it wouldn't likely be produced. That's my take. But if you are looking at this from a "NWO conspiracy lense" then yeah sure, they are trying to paint world white.

KonWomyn said...

DMG Me a racist? No different to who? ROFL! You're hilarious! Seriously I'm laughing Bra, but here's a li'l advice in the interest of maintaining your pietous image STOP with the superficial comparisons and drop the finger too. Its an undignified, embarassing contradiction of your moralism...
To you ethnicity may be 'just a description' but that's what governs power relations between the slaved and enslaved and (to an extent) btwn the minority/invisible majority in the US and Europe.

Needless to say; the possibility of reversing these social configurations of power through symbols such as art or film alone is enough to make : ) And before your fingers start typing that silly r- word again & start the furious fingerwagging which is sooooo unbecoming; my response would be the same if I'd seen something like this at Journey, the anti-sex slavery art exhibition in London last year.

When it comes to activism against sex slavery and people traficking - look for my scrawl in petitions and check my cred with European feminist groups, Bra I'm there. Where you? Or y'some armchair activist in between hospital shifts crying foul at images like this, yet when faced with real injustices you do nothing, but sigh shame and squirm?...IF that's what y'do then keep your sorry coz I think y'need it more than those in bondage.

peace

CNu said...

Also permenant sterility isn't necessarily desirable for alot of people, so I wonder if there'd be a market for this. If the vaccine isn't profitable, it wouldn't likely be produced.

Doc, it has a very interesting history.

It's an old veterinary anti-fertility (sterilization) approach into which decades of subsequent human-directed modification have been invested. (huge $$$)

The decades of continuing research and refinement by this international Indian crew strikes me as a forthright effort to produce an inexpensive, highly effective, large scale anti-fertility vaccine.

This doesn't look anything like a conventional pharmaceutical, profit driven, effort - and - with the long duration effect focus (as with most vaccinations) I think their objective is sterilization.

I'd be willing to bet the veterinary model closely corroborates this speculation, i.e., that it's been observed that in some animals, this vaccination effectively results in sterility.

Of course, I could be mistaken...,

DMG said...

Cnu, I hear you. But you'd have to assume that there is some "Manu Negra" villain type cabal bent on manipulating society. I can't make that leap of paranoia. If a certain "undesirable" group of people were sterilized and eliminated, who would do all of the shit jobs like manual labor, domestic servants, and warfighting? Doesn't make sense from an economic standpoint.

KonWomyn, what can I say...you are a DV co-signer. I think that says it all.

DMG said...

...oh yeah, KonWomyn I'm there too. I've volunteered to take care of quite a few in my day back in Chicago, and occasionally take care of the aftermath, when they find their way to hospital bloody and bruised, along with societies other castaways. So you sign your petitions, I'll do my thing.

KonWomyn said...

Yea wateva DMG, one day y'can tell me what it's like to get slotted for shifts & get paid for something others choose to do independently & voluntarily. (BTW 'society's castaways' isn't the most pc term.) If we make it through that convo, quibbles n all, maybe I'll figure y'out. Until then, I'll consider your sidestepping of issues as a reluctant yet subtle co-sign; maybe your pride's gettin' in the way but really dude, there's nothing to lose.

...one

CNu said...

Cnu, I hear you. But you'd have to assume that there is some "Manu Negra" villain type cabal bent on manipulating society. I can't make that leap of paranoia.

not really brah....,

cruise missiles and finely distributable anthrax have subzero mass commercial appeal.

yet.

muhphuggahs crank out each like they were hotcakes.

a castration/sterilization/effeminization vaccine?!?!?!?!

sheeeeiiiiiiitttttt............,

that's pure money jack!

you can take that to the bank.