If America woke up tomorrow and "racism" no longer existed, how would we know? What does a world with no racism look like?I think it looks exactly like the world we have today. So what does that tell us?
"And yes, the cop was racist because Skip said so. I trust his judgment." MF
Racism is a religion for Plantation Negros and Plantation Crackas. Nothing necessarily racial has to happen. Racism has a presence. The Plantation has offered racism as the Patron Saint of the Plantation Negros.
Sgt. Leon Lashley says Gates was probably tired and surprised when Sgt. James Crowley demanded identification from him as officers investigated a report of a burglary. Lashley says Gates' reaction to Crowley was "a little bit stranger than it should have been."Asked if Gates should have been arrested, Lashley said supported Crowley "100 percent. Gates has said he was the victim of racial profiling.
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This whole thing was a giant waste of time. President Obama should have known way better than to say what he said, and Gates needs to go back to Cambridge and eat his tea and crumpets or whatever he does.
I do like those documentaries though.
Some racist, huh?
Helping old man Skip down the stairs while Obama is running off to the next photo op.
That cop has been such a MAN through all this. He didn't apologize when the Liberal Nazi Race Police tried to bully him into doing so, then he agrees to sit down man-to-man with the whiney baby who slandered him and, after the meeting, helps the old guy down the stairs.
Class.
As you said DV, sometimes shit is between men. And when people let them settle it for themselves without involving the PC Police, it sorts itself out.
I would not help him down the steps if he talked about my mother.
Per The Smoking Gun:
[The Cambridge Police Department reports, authored by Sergeant James Crowley and Officer James Figueroa, quote an incensed Gates yelling, "This is what happens to black men in America!," and, when asked by Crowley to speak with him outside the residence, Gates replied, "ya, I'll speak with your mama outside."]
I can’t imagine that the average brother would respond to a police officer in that manner. And that has nothing to do with fear. It's driven by intelligence.
As regards: "This is what happens
to black men in America," sarcasm asks the question, “How would he know?”
It’s simply amazing how quickly these Negroes who believe
that they’ve transcended race, play the race card when smacked back into reality.
Based on his past history, Skip Gates playing the race card has about the same credibility as the Devil trying to convince a soul that Hell has air-conditioning.
"It's not white versus black any more, it's haves versus have-nots."--Dr. Gates
I think the real issue for Dr. Gates was that he believed he was being treated like one of the have-nots.
Perhaps more interesting than the charlatanry of the
suddenly “race conscious” Skip Gates are the reactions
of two Cambridge police officers who are Afrikan Americans.
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/27/must-see-cambridge-cop-says-she-wont-vote-for-obama-again-after-gatesgate/
http://www.punditreview.com/2009/07/it-was-a-teachable-moment-alright/
Couple these reactions with President Obama’s “kumbaya
moment” and one wonders if the systemic problem of racial
profiling will be lost in the shuffle.
What a photo! Tragic for our community.
while crowley IS guilty of false arrest, gates IS equally guilty of needlessly and speciously talking shit.
this photo, however, is dispositive of the objective truth of the matter.
denmark vesey is school....,
II
"Some racist, huh?
Helping old man Skip down the stairs while Obama is running off to the next photo op"
Yeah, the same old man Skip he helped down the stairs in Cambridge by means of HANDCUFFS.
Dina is practicing getting accepted as a white woman again...
Keep at it, Dina. maybe you'll indeed get to "pass" at some time.
I'm practicing? I thought I already was accepted as a White woman. Damn!!
I'll try harder next time Fisher. Thanks for the advice.
II
"I'm practicing? I thought I already was accepted as a White woman. Damn!!"
My bad. I thought you hadn't passed yet. Obviously you have. Good luck in Whiteland, Bitch. (of course, you're not offended by term, having defended it's liberal application as an endearing term to use for black women, right?)
You know, of course, the way Skip looks he could've very well be an Egyptian-American victimized by a white racist cop in his own home. I find it interesting, by the way, that you and DV take the words of that white cop over Skip's word who fervently has denied using the language the cop accused him of.
Now, I've known Skip since 1975 or so, and while he ain't exactly the most militant guy, he consistently helped the militant brothers and sisters out whenever they needed the help. For example, he wrote me the most glowing recommendation during my senior year at Yale full knowing that my black militant nationalist Pan-Africanist and Marxist credential were in super-overdrive at the time. That helped me out a lot career and school-wise. He did stuff for black folks consistently and didn't give a damn whether they agreed with his views or not.
Skip ain't a chump and he ain't a Tom. You mofos have no idea what happens behind the scenes.
But as soon as some white cop claims bullshit on a black man ya'll don't happen to like, you go white. Fuck that.
Dina...
"That cop has been such a MAN through all this. He didn't apologize when the Liberal Nazi Race Police tried to bully him into doing so, then he agrees to sit down man-to-man with the whiney baby who slandered him and, after the meeting, helps the old guy down the stairs."
Crowley' been a MAN and Skip a whiney baby?
Re-rading this drivel, I take my earlier "Bitch" back. That was too nice a term for Dina, one of most foul stinking ass racist white trailer trash female dogs you one will find strolling the by ways of a $2.50 crack ho strip.
Whoa!
"Re-rading this drivel, I take my earlier "Bitch" back. That was too nice a term for Dina, one of most foul stinking ass racist white trailer trash female dogs you one will find strolling the by ways of a $2.50 crack ho strip." MF
Mike, you trying too hard.
"Skip" ...
Man, listen to yourself.
Where is the lawsuit for false arrest under Massachusetts law, and the systematic dismantling of legal and social sanction for commonplace arrests made for "contempt of cop" that should be the productive outcome of this confrontation?
Why is the categorical and objective possible deliverable being obscured in the aftermath of this situation?
Crowley acted stupidly.
Obama spoke correctly.
The Cambridge DA did not support his action.
There are consequences associable with this action.
But the "teachable" moment under the law has begun to pass while excessively identified armchair pundits curl up into the most infantile extremities of imaginary outrage.
I haven't been following the case that closely CNu. Why are you confident there is a case for "False Arrest"?
Crowley acted stupidly?
I think Crowley acted just as he has been tasked to act by a Police State and a nation full of complicent conformist Plantation Negros & Crackas.
By crying "racism" when he should have been crying "totalitarianism" or NWO / One World Government, Henry ... excuse me Fish ... I mean "Skip", fueled the Hegelian Head Fake that still has Plantation Negros stuck on race, when the issue is a bit deeper than that.
This isn't a Cambridge PD phenomenon is it? Isn't this a phenomenon of a nation that has 2 million people incarcerated in a For-Profit prison system?
Obama should have said "Our nation has a stupid justice system that is less concerned with justice than it is with profit".
Don't you think pretending Henry ... "Skip" ... is not culpable in these shenanigans rewards future bitchy emotional silly outbursts by other people attempting to hide their personal confrontations behind a veil of incidental Group Identity Politics?
... one of most foul stinking ass racist white trailer trash female dogs you one will find strolling the by ways of a $2.50 crack ho strip.
Mike... I see you still got that "black militant nationalist Pan-Africanist and Marxist" bully-boy bullshit in you. That training runs deep.
Why not take a lesson from Skip concerning magnanimity towards those with whom you disagree?
Why are you confident there is a case for "False Arrest"?
1. Because Massachusetts law doesn't support arresting a man on his porch talking shit.
2. The Cambride DA dropped the case like a hot potato.
3. I spent thursday and friday in the company of a police command officer at a law enforcement conference who explained to me in no uncertain terms how wrong and unprofessional Crowley was and the damage that that type of behavior inflicts on police/community relations. He further explained that Crowley should be terminated (allowed to resign) for having made that false arrest.
Don't you think pretending Henry ... "Skip" ... is not culpable in these shenanigans
Under the law, it is a fact that Gates is in NO WAY WHATSOEVER culpable for any of what transpired.
That said - I am of the opinion that, in objective, tactical terms, it is ridiculous to run off at the mouth at anyone holding a categorical physical and legal upper hand.
Under the circumstances, it seems to me that there is an opportunity to strike a very significant blow against that "upper hand".
The very fact that no one in a position of governance,
no armchair pundit,
no serious commentator
has thus far spoken to the possible legal deliverable to be had from the aftermath of this situation,
means that an establishment "closing of ranks" has happened in deference to the governance utility of keeping people cowed and under the impression that it's legit for officers to use their advantages against the citizenry in response to "contempt of cop" talk.
All the rest of that Alex Jones gibberish you wrote is not helpful in any conceivable manner, form, or fashion DV.
^Why not take a lesson from Skip concerning magnanimity towards those with whom you disagree?
'Cause I ain't in the mood for that right now.
Besides Skip isn't being magnanimous towards Crowley, he went to that Beer Summit to help Obama out politically.
Look. Skip and I as well as Skip and the very militant BSAY (Black Student Alliance at Yale) which, by the way, kicked off the entire student Anti-Apartheid divestment campaign on the nation's colleges after the Soweto uprisings in 1976, had some very fundamental differences. We always thought that he was a sell-out milquetoast. But lo and behold, when it came down to the wire, he always was there for us. And that regardless of how we pissed off the very white folks that allowed him to make a living.
Skip does not deserve all this ignorant bullshit that is being spewed by "DV" and Cie. And he certainly did not deserve being humiliated in is own house by some racist ass cop. And yes, the cop was racist because Skip said so. I trust his judgment.
ROFLMEAO!!! Damn Fisher, I didn't think you were still so attracted to me that I could get to you all worked up like this. I know I'm fine and all, but settle down homie.
I must say, what makes your little Turret's outburst so amusing is that it comes on the heels of your Old Man Wisdom offered to The Good Nurse in handling her son.
Hold on, let me make sure I quote you correctly.
Black males these days act too much out of emotionalism. That's why, like girls, they get into cat fights all the time.
Or hold on, what about this gem from the great M. Fisher -
They also tend to keep grudges. Used to be you had a fight and shit was over. Men moved on. Looks like these days a black male will hate you for some perceived slight forever.
Sounds like you were speaking from personal experience.
My homie Prof. Ron Walters solves the riddle correctly;
President Obama, Professor Gates and Sgt. Crowley will have their beer in the White House, but it will only be a symbolic gesture, lacking the force to confront the monumental crime of racial profiling by the police perpetrators that has locked up tens of thousands of blacks in American prisons. The Senate has just passed a resolution apologizing for slavery I have been reminded. Yes, but that is a crime conceived to have been in the distant past, while the issue of blacks and the criminal justice system is current and fixing it will require current costs.
So, what we now know from the Gates affair about having a black president is that his initial honest sentiment has been interpreted as a political blunder to conform to the political power of the interpreting class, because it dared to privilege the voice of the victim and through him all black men who had been racially profiled. Does this tell us something about the limits to which a black president can go in dealing with race in a majority white country with respect to other racial issues that are crying out for resolution? I believe it does.
Aight. Aight. I can get with that CNu.
I can't see too many reasons to ever arrest a man in his own home.
However, the knee-jerk attachment of race to this issue of sovereignty and citizenship was a bitch move.
But back up for a minute ...
Did you catch: "Militant Black Students At Yale"? That must be the Plantation Negro equivalent of "Nam Myoho Renge Kyo".
That lunacy is flawed by definition.
How absurd a notion.
Plantation Negros think "being angry" at white people for 40 years is "militant".
Busting your ass and spending a fortune to sit up underneath white folks at Yale ... in the first place ... disqualifies one from ever claiming to be "militant".
Now back to our regularly scheduled programming ...
Aint a fuggin' thing wrong with Alex Jones homey. He aint the only cat calling a square a square and a circle a circle.
Is it your contention that we are NOT dealing with a totalitarian police state?
What exactly is it that you attribute to Messr Jones that you reject?
Because all of this ... "file a law suit" stuff sounds as pointless today as it would have been in Nazi Germany in 1939.
Aint a fuggin' thing wrong with Alex Jones homey. He aint the only cat calling a square a square and a circle a circle.
Alex Jones is just selling a product, little different in substance or quality from the product peddled for years by Art Bell.
Is it your contention that we are NOT dealing with a totalitarian police state?
Correct.
We are dealing with a dopamine hegemony which must - by its own reckoning - depend principally upon sales, marketing, propaganda, persuasion, and operate within the context of the rule of law.
(why otherwise go to so much trouble to distend the scope, application, and intent of the many and sundry laws upon which TPTB affix their greasy mits?)
What exactly is it that you attribute to Messr Jones that you reject?
Poor quality scholarship, fact checking, analysis, prognostication, and presentation.
Because all of this ... "file a law suit" stuff sounds as pointless today as it would have been in Nazi Germany in 1939.
The Nazi's came to power legally and legitimately and they maintained the rule of law within Germany, much as TPTB have shown themselves disposed to do here in the Homeland.
Successful lawsuits and accompanying educative narratives retain considerable power and influence in this society.
DV...
"Did you catch: "Militant Black Students At Yale"? That must be the Plantation Negro equivalent of 'Nam Myoho Renge Kyo'."
And why would that be so?
Why did Skip give flowers to the white bitch who first reported him to the fuzz for breaking into his home?
Why didn't he give her a ration of shit for "racial-profiling" him as a "black" man in America?
Cuz he worships white bitches, and hates white men & black women? The old Black Panther motto: Talk black, sleep white?
Naw, Dina. I've seen that pic outta Egypt of you. No attraction there. And no, my statement was not a statement of emotionalism, it was a statement of fact. You're a true deep wanna be white racist. Disgustingly so.
^The woman did the right thing, and during the 911 call, she did not claim anything about it being black men. She also said that these men might be there legitimately, but figured it was safer to have the cops check. Go online and listen to the call.
Let me say upfront that I have long standing ideological issues with Dr. Henry Louis Gates, beginning in 1992 with is ADL sponsored NY Times op-ed: “Black Demagogues and Pseudo-Scholars” --http://www.raceandhistory.com/historicalviews/gates22.htm -- and continuing through his PBS documentary : “Wonders of the African World with Henry Louis Gates Jr.”
However, those items are not the issues currently being discussed here or nationally.
I’ll post a few points by some pundits and add my comments.
[By any account of what happened—Gates', Crowleys', or some version in between—Gates should never have been arrested. "Contempt of cop," as it's sometimes called, isn't a crime. Or at least it shouldn't be. It may be impolite, but mouthing off to police is protected speech, all the more so if your anger and insults are related to a perceived violation of your rights. The "disorderly conduct" charge for which Gates was arrested was intended to prevent riots, not to prevent cops from enduring insults. Crowley is owed an apology for being portrayed as a racist, but he ought to be disciplined for making a wrongful arrest.]-- Radley Balko Reason.com
My comments: Brother Nulan, as usual, is correct. Brother Fisher’s moral outrage is understandable, the personal invective towards Ms. II not withstanding.
What Balko describes is how things should work. In the real world that is not how they actually work for two reasons (1) people are not aware of their rights (2) they are reluctant to challenge police authority and fight for their rights. One can understand a little homey on the block capitulating, but for a person like Dr. Gates there is no moral excuse not to fight for his rights, even if he verbally provoked Sgt. Crowley.
[The stilted language in the Gates police report is intended to mirror the courts' awkward phrasing, but the state could never make the charge stick. The law is aimed not at mere irascibility but rather at unruly behavior likely to set off wider unrest. Accordingly, the behavior must take place in public or on private property where people tend to gather. While the police allege that a crowd had formed outside Gates' property, it is rare to see a disorderly conduct conviction for behavior on the suspect's own front porch. In addition, political speech is excluded from the statute because of the First Amendment. Alleging racial bias, as Gates was doing, and protesting arrest both represent core political speech.]-- Brian Palmer Slate.com
My comments: If Dr Gates truly believed that his rights had been violated then he should have fought for justice, political expediency be damned. And I would have supported him, ideological differences be damned.
This is the problem with race-transcending Negroes like Gates and Obama. They will not stand and fight for justice in the racial arena. They compromise truth on the altar of political expediency.
[Verbally disrespecting a cop may well be rude, but in a free society we can't allow it to become a crime, any more than we can criminalize criticism of the president, a senator, or the city council. There's no excuse for the harassment or arrest of those who merely inquire about their rights, who ask for an explanation of what laws they're breaking, or who photograph or otherwise document police officers on the job.]-- Blako
My comments: The operative words there are “in a free society.” The United States, throughout its history has never been a “free society.” From the crack epidemic of the 1980s forward the Fourth Amendment has eviscerated. The nation is moving toward a police state in preparation for total collapse.
Dr. Gates has done a tremendous disservice to the moral universe by not fighting for his constitutionally protected rights. He basically punked-out for the pseudo cause of racial harmony.
For that reason I cannot support him.
makheru bradley said...
"Let me say upfront that I have long standing ideological issues with Dr. Henry Louis Gates,"
What do you have in common with Dr. Henry Louis Gates?
"By any account of what happened—Gates', Crowleys', or some version in between—Gates should never have been arrested. "Contempt of cop," as it's sometimes called, isn't a crime. Or at least it shouldn't be. It may be impolite, but mouthing off to police is protected speech, all the more so if your anger and insults are related to a perceived violation of your rights. The "disorderly conduct" charge for which Gates was arrested was intended to prevent riots, not to prevent cops from enduring insults. Crowley is owed an apology for being portrayed as a racist, but he ought to be disciplined for making a wrongful arrest.]-- Radley Balko Reason.com" MB
Uh ...
Yeah?
OK.
Sounds familiar.
That's quite different than: "This is because I'm a black man in America!"
Which is how this meme was introduced.
Now the attempt to make this a flag waving case of "Racial Profiling" ... is an insult to racial profiling.
"False arrest..." -Nulance
"... should have never been arrested." -MB
Lol! These fools must be living in a reality of their own making? Gates, short of clubbing Crowley with his cane, did everything he could to provoke his own arrest and did so with full awareness of his ultimate goal.
Having been bamboozled into voting for the post-racial president, Obama's main boy, "Skippy," made it loud and clear to his intended market of "Plantation negroes and crackas" that the accusation of "white racism" is still a potent tactic in garnering the object of the black man's demands. So much so, that a mere false accusation of "white racism" will lead an otherwise professional cop to arrest a black man on his own porch out of sheer fear and paranoia.
Even further, "Skippy" has shown us the lie of the post-racial presidency as even FALSE claims of "white racism" will never be apologized for...
In this regard, Crowley's meeting with the jive hustlers stinks of an entirely scripted plot by three dubious clowns that are attempting to create the chaotic environment that the rest of us must live in.
"If Dr Gates truly believed that his rights had been violated then he should have fought for justice, political expediency be damned." MB
But he didn't.
Because this wasn't about "fighting" for any gotdamned "rights".
The man was angry.
He was offended.
He was defensive.
He was sick.
He had a bad day.
It came out with the cop.
Black cops lock up black people for the same shit every day.
But because it happens to a chosen Negro "scholar" obsessed with old Negro issues like skin color, we are asked to participate in the charade that this incident is of some Group Identity significance.
notwithstanding the fact that the bibtard skinhead farcedaddy is totally ignorant of applicable Massacusetts law;
Lol! These fools must be living in a reality of their own making? Gates, short of clubbing Crowley with his cane, did everything he could to provoke his own arrest and did so with full awareness of his ultimate goal.
prove it joker.
if not,
then STFU and don't ever have the audacity to dip in grown folks conversation again.
DV, this is why the ecumenical approach is less than ideally useful. f-lying monkeys are congenitally incapable of dealing in the realms of fact, logic, and law, yet nevertheless, demand to be taken as seriously as grown, educated, and civil human beings.
They inevitably reduce the calibre of a discursive salon into something more closely resembling a monkey house where screeching, posing, and feces-flinging are the order of the day.
But because it happens to a chosen Negro "scholar" obsessed with old Negro issues like skin color, we are asked to participate in the charade that this incident is of some Group Identity significance.
so it's an "American group identity" issue.
where's the lawsuit and accompanying political narrative designed to leverage this unmistakable abuse of American civil liberties into a political cause celebre?
The woman did the right thing, and during the 911 call, she did not claim anything about it being black men. She also said that these men might be there legitimately, but figured it was safer to have the cops check. Go online and listen to the call
And did the white cop say anything about arresting Gates because he was Black?
And if not, then why the double-standard?
Of course, purposely omitting the suspects' races because they were Black would be the real racism. Guilty-lib crackas so scared of being labeled racist, they will actually purposely omit a racial description when it would clearly be helpful in identifying them. What if the suspects were blonde or asian though? Would it have been ok to identify them as such then? Or is it only necessary to omit race when the suspect is Black?
And did the white cop say anything about arresting Gates because he was Black?
YES dingleberry.
Read the police report you moron.
Crowley reported the suspects as being Black despite the fact that Lucia Whalen had not done so.
So, he either unconsciously filled in some blanks without reference to the facts, or, he simply intentionally lied.
Either way, he made a false arrest completely unsupported under Massachusetts law or by the Cambridge DA and he should be terminated for the lack of professionalism and plain incompetence and stupidity that this blunder exemplifies.
DV...
"He had a bad day.
It came out with the cop.".
This is what Gates said happened. No "Yo Mama" or other stuff. Now here we have two contradicting statements as to Skip's and Crowley's conduct. Skip's and Crowley's. You choose to believe Crowley's statement even though you describe him as an agent of the New World Order. Which, as you argue, operates via deception. But, in THIS case, the "agent of the NWO" tells the truth?
So, what does that tell us about you? That you either are (a) a moron or (2) a defender of "NWO agents". Since you are not stupid as far as I can tell option (b) is in order. But that would make you a - hypocrite. Which explains your slander of 1860's Africans in America.
Let me take that thought process a bit further, DV. It is this hypocrisy of yours that gives white racist dog-anus sniffing crack hos such Dina, Farst, and Byrdeye cover to say the most inhumane and reactionary things. You really should take a good hard look at yourself.
LOL. Come on Fish.
You sounding like a "Yale Black Militant".
I'm not interested in either of their statements.
The situation speaks for itself:
Crowley either a) Arrested Gates for no reason other than Gates was a black man in America. He was so overwhelmed by the omnipresent power of a "Global System of White Supremacy" that he could not resist the urge to arrest a black man even if it meant jeopardizing his own career."
or
b) Gates and Crowley got into a game of Citizen v Cop. An overly empowered police officer did what police officers do. They lock people up.
The rest of that Plantation Negro racial psychobabble is played out.
Crowley reported the suspects as being Black despite the fact that Lucia Whalen had not done so.
Well of course he noted they were black after he met them. What's wrong with that?
Now, Whalen did not ID them as black on the 911 call, but either may or may not have off-record in front of the house.
But, it's all a moot point because simply identifying someone as black does not mean you arrested them BECAUSE they are black.
It's simply following standard procedure on police reports, regardless of your race. Ever get a speeding ticket? They mark your race down on there too. That doesn't mean that's WHY they ticketed you though.
^that he could not resist the urge to arrest a black man even if it meant jeopardizing his own career.
Arresting black men usually IN NO WAY jeopardizes a cops' career. Often enough not even shooting them does.
Blackest man on the internet? Sheet. You barely qualify for nephew Tom.
dingleberry, why you bother to comment if you still haven't read the police report?
Gates was no longer a suspect after he'd identified himself as the homeowner you stupid sack of shit.
Crowley's identification of the "suspects" as Black, taints everything that follows in his report.
Do yourself a favor, at least read the police report and get a grasp of the facts of the matter...,
What do you have in common with Dr. Henry Louis Gates?—DV
I’m sure that there must be some common ground somewhere, but I don’t know of any ideological positions which Dr. Gates has taken that I’m in agreement with. But, I’m not an extensive reader of Dr. Gates’ writings.
Now the attempt to make this a flag waving case of "Racial Profiling" ... is an insult to racial profiling.—DV
Who said this was a flag waving case of racial profiling? I personally agree with the position taken by Dr. Wilmer Leon:
[In 2005 the ACLU provided the broader definition as follows, "Racial Profiling" refers to the discriminatory practice by law enforcement officials of targeting individuals for suspicion of crime based on the individual's race, ethnicity, religion or national origin. Criminal profiling, generally, as practiced by police, is the reliance on a group of characteristics they believe to be associated with crime… Racial profiling does not refer to the act of a law enforcement agent pursuing a suspect in which the specific description of the suspect includes race or ethnicity in combination with other identifying factors.” Intent is a key element in evaluating this circumstance. It does not appear by any of the facts as stated that Sgt. Crowley focused on, targeted or arrested Dr. Gates based upon his race (human), ethnicity, religion, or national origin.]
The Balko and Palmer quotes referred to constitutional rights, not to racial profiling.
Whereas racial profiling may not be an issue in the arrest of Dr. Gates, the historical documentation proves that racial profiling is a fact of life, particularly for young Black males, and for Afrikan Americans in general in the area of law enforcement, and in other facets of life in America (think of the sub-prime loan debacle). It’s clearly an issue worthy of attention.
Obviously, I am concerned that the systemic problem of racial profiling may be lost in the beer drinking "happy hour of racial harmony" at the White House.
http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=4066&updaterx=2009-07-31+10%3A25%3A17
But because it happens to a chosen Negro "scholar" obsessed with old Negro issues like skin color, we are asked to participate in the charade that this incident is of some Group Identity significance.—DV
Gates is obsessed with skin color? Since when, after his white wife divorced him? This is a man who is on record saying: “What I call the black cultural nationalist imaginary - the belief that we are all united because we are black and descended from slaves and have a common enemy called 'whitey' - no longer applies. It's not white versus black any more, it's haves versus have-nots.”
If the “This is what happens to black men in America" quote is true, Dr. Gates played the race card, but he is no more obsessed with race than Michael Jackson and OJ Simpson were, or than Barack Obama is.
Because this wasn't about "fighting" for any gotdamned "rights". – DV
In other words, Dr. Gates was an intellectual rioter. After he hurled a few verbal bricks, and his emotional outrage burned out, business goes on as usual.
^b) Gates and Crowley got into a game of Citizen v Cop. An overly empowered police officer did what police officers do. They lock people up.
As usual you are misdirecting and avoiding the issue raised. The point I made is that YOU decided to give the, by YOUR standards, "deceptive NWO agent Crowley", the benefit of the nod on Crowley's claim of Skip's behavior. By your VERY OWN STANDARD you are a hypocrite. Unless, of course you are just plain dumb, or unless you are just a plain ole' dumb hypocrite. I'm really trying to go with the intelligent hypocrite here.
Michael Fisher said...
Arresting black men usually IN NO WAY jeopardizes a cops' career. Often enough not even shooting them does.
Michael Fisher said...
^that he could not resist the urge to arrest a black man even if it meant jeopardizing his own career.
"Arresting black men usually IN NO WAY jeopardizes a cops' career. Often enough not even shooting them does." MF
Uh ...Mike,
It jeopardized this cops career. This cop aint shoot nobody in this case.
All that Plantation Negro Group Identity psychobbable about "ususally" does not apply.
"Blackest man on the internet? Sheet. You barely qualify for nephew Tom.
You trying too hard Mike.
It's not a good look.
You from that Old Negro school which still thinks "Blackness" is in proportion to how much "Racism" one can identify.
Mike, was what happened to Henry Louis ... oops ... "Skip", a racial incident or not?
Can't let it go can you?
You couldn't say race had nothing to do with this if you were paid to do so.
You need to see this as racial.
You need the big bad racist Boogey Man cop.
If he didn't exist, you would have to invent him.
I'm saying fuck racism.
The government has too much power. The prisons are filled and they are about to open up camps.
The camps will be filled with both Plantation Negros and Plantation Crackas.
They've got you distracted focused on race.
That you either are (a) a moron or (2) a defender of "NWO agents"
He is not defending NWO agents.
In fact, he is simply attributing the overzealous arrest to NWO power-tripping, not outdated lynchmob racism. Which Gates himself denies exists anymore, anyways. :)
Gates was no longer a suspect after he'd identified himself as the homeowner you stupid sack of shit.
Crowley's identification of the "suspects" as Black, taints everything that follows in his report
Correlation =/= causation.
Again, it is simply good reporting to include race in the description of the people involved.
Whereas if he were truly racist and trying to screw Gates because he was black - he would have more likely left his race OFF the report to deflect any suspicion.
Does your brain even come with an "ON" switch? Just curious..
still commenting without ever having read the police report...,
illestmind indeed.
Fish, what makes you think Dina is a racist?
Plantation Negros don't call people "racist", when people hate them.
Plantation Negros call people racist when they hate other people.
Take Mike Fisher for example: ^^
This is the second time in the same thread, he's bent over backwards and gone out of his way to insult Intellectual Insurgent because of some perceived Plantation Negro racial slight.
All of the huff huff self-righteous manufactured indignation in the world can't disguise the fact - he has no point.
Nulance,
Did "Skippy" do everything he could do, short of clubbing Crowley with his cane, in order to get arrested?
or
Did "Skippy" do everything he could do, short of clubbing Crowley with his cane, in order to NOT get arrested?
Your foolishness has us blinded to the fact that your derision of Gates is because he is a far superior and bolder radical autonomist than you.
^Fish, what makes you think Dina is a racist?
Oh, I don't "think", I know.
As to the rest of your elucidations...
I guess you proved option (a) to be incorrect.
DV,
Could you possibly translate what your pet farcedaddy called himself saying?
Looks like he's back off his meds and without immediate supervision again...,
Nulance,
Why all the pretense...? Amongst those radical autonomists who evolve through adaptation are those radical autonomists who also create the environments the rest of us must live in. You and "Skippy" are both aspiring examples of the latter and your attempt to deride him because he failed to file a "false arrest" complaint when he WAS ATTEMPTING to get arrested clearly indicates a desire to serve your own interests first.
If the goal was to get arrested in order to show the world that in a post-racial presidency the white man is still in fear of the racist accusation then clearly "Skippy" done real good. And when you add to this fact that "Skippy's" accusation of "racism" was completely unfounded and he refused to apologize then I would say it was a good day for militant blacks and their demand-style politics.
Face it, "Skippy" has greater influence than you in shaping the environment (mechanism of action) that the rest of us must live in. This just rubs a radical autonomist like you real raw.
^Fish, what makes you think Dina is a racist?
"Oh, I don't "think", I know." MF
Again, we see, as with all religions, the Plantation Negro "knows" racism exists ... not because he can point to evidence ... but because he has FAITH it exists.
Racism is the Plantation Negro God.
DV...
"Again, we see, as with all religions, the Plantation Negro 'knows' racism exists ... not because he can point to evidence ... but because he has FAITH it exists."
You've got problems with the English language?
You asked me "what makes me think that..." To which I replied "I don't think (i.e. believe, have faith,), I know."
Now if you want the evidence, the evidence is right in this thread. Dina took the word of the white cop over Skip's word although there is no objective basis to do so. Without the benefit of the 911 call and the radio calls she would have to remain agnostic about the matter. With the benefit of the 911 call etc. she would have to give Skip the nod.
Once she established the meme, against all available evidence, that Crowley's version was "correct" she then proceeded to present Crowley as the victim of and implied that indeed it was Skip who practiced racism against Crowley. To which Crowley reacted "like a MAN".
That is typical, blame the victim, white racism.
Dina ain't stupid in contrast to certain other folks posting here. Which means she very well knows what she is doing. And what she's is doing is typical of non-white such as light skinned "Arabs", "Jews", "Mulattoes" or other light skinned folks who want to "pass". They understand that passing to "white" involves mistreating non-whites. Which makes them whores to white supremacy. Cheap ones at that. Skanky, too. Thus my assessment that Dina is an exceptionally skanky $2.50 "wanna be white" racist ho.
Proof delivered.
Mike,
That's so stupid. So punkish. So Plantation Negro ... I'm embarrassed for you.
Racism has so contaminated your psyche, you cannot even think clearly.
1) "Dina is a racist" ... because she didn't take "Skip's" word for it?
2) She's a light skinned Arab which means she wants to pass for white?
Are you aware of how stupid you sound?
You've become a characterture, Mike. Like a broken record stuck on 1979.
You obviously have some kind of inferiority complex you are attempting to conceal behind a wall on nonsensical racial psychobabble and Group Think.
Mike ... uh ... bra. You may not realize this. But not too many people have a desire to "be white" these days.
That's something left over from ya'll Negros who thought attending Yale was a Come Up.
"Mike,
That's so stupid. So punkish. So Plantation Negro..."
Proof delivered:
Option (c).
Lawd. Now DV is citing a Tomish black cop who says he supports Crowley's breaking the law "100 percent" in order to make DV's case that black folks who oppose Crowley's actions are Plantation Negroes.
Yep. Option (c) is full in effect.
MF is not just an emotional girl in a man's body who carries a grudge over a perceived slight, his reading comprehension skills are woefully lacking.
My comments about Crowley describe his conduct post-arrest. I said nothing about whose side of the story was correct. Once the media got a hold of this story and attempted to manufacture it into another divide-and-conquer narrative, who was telling the truth became utterly irrelevant.
Indeed, who was telling the "truth" is utterly irrelevant because - as CNu has pointed out many times - there would still be no justification to arrest Gates. None. So it is of no concern to me whether Mr. My Kids-Are-Half-White, If-It-Could-Happen-To-Me-It-Could-Happen-To-Anyone was truthful or not.
Skip became a pathetic bitch ass when he started in on all that, "if it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone" "do you know who I am" baloney. That's punk shit. And that's what it was all about. It wasn't about racial profiling. It wasn't about being Black in America. It was about his fragile little Harvard-manufactured ego. Not about anyone else.
Which was why he acted like an undignified little baby through the whole thing.
Contrast Crowley's behavior. He was the only in this story who didn't whine like a bitch ass and HE refused to apologize. Thus, when it was time for the men to sit down like men and talk, it was possible for him to look eye-to-eye and resolve it like men.
How Crowley handled the media was a lesson in skill.
This isn't about racism. IT IS ABOUT MANHOOD.
Men don't get bullied into apologizing for shit. Men don't whine like bitches in front of cameras.
Hold on Mike, what was all that business about Black Males being girls in men's bodies, acting out of emotionalism and holding grudges for perceived slights? Your stupid ass is the real racist. You and your buddy Skip. Because none of the Black men I know would have behaved like children the way your lover Skip did.
The real racist is Michael Fisher and his homo lover Skip who still can't believe that being light-skinned and married to a White woman and having "half-White" children didn't elevate Skippy to Super Status in America.
Mike,
Obviously your mixed race parentage has damaged your sense of race.
You think blackness is some kind of warped loyalty to nonsensical accusations of racism.
"Negro A claims racism ergo all black people must agree that Negro A experienced racism."
Black cops lock up black people everyday for less than what Crowley locked up Henry Louis ... oops. Excuse me Fish ... "Skip" Gates.
It's not a race issue. It's a police issue. It's a government issue. It's a sovereignty issue. It's a citizenship issue.
Plantation Negros have been trained to NEVER look beyond race.
^^Peep any post by Mike Fisher as an example^^.
Face it, "Skippy" has greater influence than you in shaping the environment (mechanism of action) that the rest of us must live in. This just rubs a radical autonomist like you real raw.
rotflmbao.....whew!!!
thanks of the belly laugh farcedaddy.
who'da thunk you were such an entertainer.
DV...
"Obviously your mixed race parentage has damaged your sense of race."
ROTFLMAO
Dina...
"My comments about Crowley describe his conduct post-arrest. I said nothing about whose side of the story was correct."
To wit Dina as in her original post:
"then he agrees to sit down man-to-man with the whiney baby who SLANDERED him"
The so-called "slander" consisting of Skip putting forward Skip's version.
Since you consider Skip's version slander, you obviously take it that Skip lied and giving the nod to Crowley's version.
"The real racist is Michael Fisher and his homo lover Skip"
As I stated up-thread Dina implied that it was Skip not Crowley who was the racist. Now she did lot's more than imply. Typical ho-ass "wanna be white" racist blame-the-victim move. A dumb one, too.
The price for your services has just gone down to 50 cents.
By the way, what makes you think Skip is my homo-lover?
The so-called slander is calling a guy a racist for being disgusted by a girl in a man's body. Crowley isn't a racist. He's a sexist! LOL!!
He didn't like bitches and so he arrested Gates for being one.
Like I said and what has become pretty obvious from the limited discussion you are capable of having Fisher, you and your lover Skip are the racists.
All that nonsense about me trying to pass for light-skinned, yada, yada, actually applies to your boyfriend. All this racism nonsense of which you accuse me is actually a whole lot of psychobabble projection.
You and your boyfriend Skip are the ones outraged that his attempts to pass as Half-White weren't accepted by Massa; that procreating with a White woman and proudly having Half-White children didn't get him royalty status.
That's what this is all about.
oh shit
not too many people have a desire to "be white" these days
Well most blacks just can't afford it, like Michael Jackson or Lil Kim, etc.
Dang, Dina, did I upset you somehow?
Hey Fisher, remember when you tried to lecture me about how I wasn't being polite enough to a female poster in one of these comment threads?
Because I think you've called Insurgent a "ho" at least four times now. I'll find the thread if you've forgotten.
Fisher aint call Insurgent anything.
He was just actin' out.
Gray...
"Hey Fisher, remember when you tried..."
Don't remember, but it's likely. I guess there's an exception to every rule.
I'm sorry I missed this discussion.
It's amazing how the fact that Sgt. Leon Lashley said something is important.
There are two reason his comments are considered worthwhile by our host here and others in the world.
1. They agree with what he's saying.
2. He's black.
It's funny that people so convinced this issue isn't about race give special credence to a man who agrees with them because he is black. Damn funny.
Whoa! The oversimplification of such complex ideas as race relations and institutionalized racism are an interesting study in historical revisionism. I think your buttons have been pushed Fish and I've never seen you act out like this. This site gets folks riled up though because TGrayCon actually got irritated a few threads ago too!
With that said, Cnu is right; the officer had absolutely NO legal standing to arrest and charge Gates with anything. Given his 'yo mamma' insertion into the report race is written all over his motivations. We can argue semantics until the cows come home but given personal experience, race was a factor.
But it is also true that we live under tyranny and that day in and day out police abuse people irrespective of ethnic or racial differences. Authoritarianism is the underlying current so in some screwy way, everyone posting here has been right.
As to Skip Gates being called a bitch and all that other stuff...well, when you live in a tower, you can get out of touch with what's on the ground. I don't think of him as a bitch though. I'd raise holy hell and sue the shit out of that police officer and try to get him fired if it were me, given that I'm aware of my rights now.
Sister KonWomyn...,
why you take down your classic commentary at 2:59pm?
You had me skrate rollin...,
three words for you grrrl...,
puff, puff, pass.....,
rotflmbao!!!
MRS
I said what you just said from the jump. If you go back and read the very first post discussing this, you'll see that folks have refused to admit this.
What's up Mahdisa?! What's up KW? Thank ya'll sistas for bringing a little yin to the thread.
But back up for a minute.
What Big Man doesn't address, and what I'd like to hear your thoughts on is this:
IS IT POSSIBLE, A WHITE COP CAN EVER ARREST A BLACK MAN, AND RACE ...NOT ... BE A FACTOR?
It seems "racism" has become a self-perpetuating phenomenon .
Wouldn't you agree that Black Cops arrest Black Men for far less than what Gates was arrested ... every day?
What do you call that?
Referencing the Black Cop is VERY RELEVANT. Because it demonstrates there can exist a DIVERSITY OF OPINION about whether an incident was a product of racism or not even among black people.
Bra Big Man is trying to hit us with the: "Come on bra ... e'rybody KNOW this is a matter of race."
No Big Man.
Everyone doesn't.
I say it's a matter of out of control For-Profit Policing.
Some insist that we reduce it to the old comfortable simple race paradigm of Black Victim vs. Powerful Whites.
I say it's time we step away from that paradigm by acknowledging others.
@ CNu...on da lefthand side! ROFL!!! I figured maybe I was jivetalking and not backing up my claims so I'd wld prob'ly catch a whuppin' frm somebody. I'd saved it in my drafts so I cld re-write it later with more substance and pitch it to my FB frenz.
Here it is:
'Sup
This is some thread! No-holds barred, brutal exchanges - y'all must hve nerves of steel...
'Kay I'm not sure that race or class plays into this anymore bec Gates' reaction still puzzles me. Is it crazy to smell a rat in this whole thing? Jst looking at the pic up there makes it suspicious - maybe I'm wildin' out here but this cld be part of 'the long con'. It could be a smokescreen for the Plantation to be seen to be dealing with racial issues and mark the ushering in, rather enforcement of a post-racial and post-racist Amerikkka with all its subtle but effective curtailments on its citizens.
Maybe all this was staged, right from the get-go: Crowley, Whalen, Gates, POTUS, mainstream media shareholders all stand to benefit immensely from this. They all act out the parts they shld - the award winning role going to Skip Gates who plays the its cos 'I'm Black' in a manner totally uncharacteristic of him, but believable enough for the masses.
Crowley the arresting officer who'd jst saved a well known Black man's life a few months ago is the perfect non-racist cop to pull this off. In front of unsuspecting Langley, Crowley does what he shld - never mind that the arrest turns out to be false and charges dropped. That was a part of it too and only thing he'll get is a slap on the wrist. And in a couple of years he can go on holiday in the Cayman Islands and pick up his cheque for a job well done. Same goes for Whalen who stayed silent long enough for debate to brew but stepped spoke up conveniently before the beer party.
POTUS looks like the uniter of the two stupids in his li'l charade of a beer summit while Americans still quibble about what this incident really says abt cop-civilian, class and race relations in the US.
This isn't as big as other scandals of course but its important enough to either divert attention from another covert operation or an effective enough msg to say jst how much BO will be allowed to do / is prevented from doing for race relations.
I'm not saying this is the case, but I'm just saying...
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My man Submariner posited that the jarringly off-topic question posed to the preznit toward the end of his healthcare address about this incident was PRECISELY what you've described above.
i.e., a carefully placed shot designed to divert attention from the overarching issue(s) and channel it into something utterly unproductive.
I remain concerned that given the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, neither Gates, Prof. Charles Ogletree, the NAACP, etc., etc., etc., and of course no major mainstream media organs, have taken up the baton of suing Crowley for false arrest and striking a major, precedent setting blow against the obviously erroneous practice of arresting folks who exercise their 1st Amendment right to ask questions and express "contempt for cop".
The cop-civilian modulus here is primary and the forces of status quo inertia have already acted so as to ensure no major changes will be headed this way.
Good point KW and CNu.
But I posit that that "status quo inertia" is perpetuated by Negros just as much as by "the media".
Plantation Negros couldn't let it go.
DV
If I had known that was your question, I would have answered it long ago.
The answer is:
Damn right.
People get arrested all the time for breaking the law. That's a good reason to get arrested.
I only have a problem when you get arrested without breaking the law.
Which is what happened in this case. Then I have to wonder why you got singled out to be falsely arrested. Was it simply an authority thing, or was there something more.
Sorry I didn't answer your question earlier. Would have helped if you actually asked me that question though.
Its true, BO sprang to life when asked that question like he'd been waiting to talk abt it. Al Sharpton and Jesse J were surprisingly silent on this like they were still mourning Mike yet they cld have had the primetime spot to put Crowley on blast, but that would have meant defecting from BO's apology issued the very next day. The NAACP had jst had POTUS as guestspeaker so can't be seen as dissenting from Prez O either. Strangley I've not heard anything from Cornel West who I thought wld have said something worth hearing.
But this incident diverts public attention from the health insurance plan and leads nicely into the birther crackers, but the real issues are getting shafted jst in time for Congress to go on holiday and come back with a new thread in the long con.
@ DV But status quo is really the force that mediates how Plantation pples respond; and they responded accordingly as voices both for and against Gates. But in real terms the positioning of people in relation to the State stays very much the same. For those that call it post-race America they've willed into amnesia race as a marker of oppression, but they still remain disempowered and have less of a claim on racial grounds (as linked to the historical past) when similar injustices of the past are repeated again but go by a different name.
DV
I'm not trying to hit you with anything.
Let me get this straight, since Fisher raised it earlier and you ignored it.
You don't trust the police. You think they are part of a move to restrict people's rights and they will lie, cheat and kill to uphold the authority of shadowy groups that work behind the scenes.
Yet, you believe the police report of this Crowley cat even though the document being circulated now is vastly different from the document first put up on the web by Boston.com. You believe his word about how Gates behaved, despite the fact that he's already been proven a liar by the very woman that called 911. This dude has lied repeatedly, and illegally arrested a man to boot.
Now, he's been defended by fellow police officers and the polic union. The same type of defense that the officers involved in the Sean Bell, Amadou Diallo and Louima incidents received. The same type of defense that's standard in any police involved shooting no matter how shady the incident appears.
I don't trust the word of black police officers anymore than I trust the word of white police officers. Why? Because they are all police officers. They all lie all the damn time and I know this from working with them on regular basis.
However, I think it's funny that a man who constantly preaches against trusting the word of the police and similar groups is accepting their word now.
I think it's freaking hilarious that you would rail against the whole idea that race is important in this issue and then push forward the words of a black man as being righteous simply because he's black. Why do you think it's important to show the diversity of black opinion? Anybody who actually spends time with black people, hell if the just visit this blog regularly, knows that black people have a wide array of opinions.
Only the most dense of racists think that all black people think and behave like a herd.
No, this whole exercise is simple and has been from the beginning.
You don't like Skip Gates and what he represents. No matter what happened that day, you are going to concentrate on framing him as the evil Plantation Negro run amuck.
That's cool, it's your blog, but let's not pretend that the rest of us who refuse to play that game don't "get it."
We get it just fine.
For the record, here was my first comment here on this issue.
Big Man said...
So it couldn't be both?
Cause from where I'm sitting, the for-proft prison system and the police departments that feed it seem to be targeting specific groups to provide fodder.
Poor, first and foremost, and after that minorities. Scracth that, the unwanted minorities like black and Latinos.
So, Professor Gates was arrested because we live in a police state and he happens to be the wrong color inside of that police state.
There is no doubt that this incident was proof of the ridiculous power that police officers wield. There is also no doubt that they tend to exert that power more frequently when dealing with minorities. Arguing anything requires ignoring the observable truth.
Jul 23, 2009 1:58:00 PM
"Yet, you believe the police report of this Crowley cat" Big Man
Nah. Brah.
We got a communication problem.
I couldn't be less concerned about the "police report". I wasn't even aware of its existence or its accessibility.
It doesn't matter. The circumstances speak louder than any testimony.
Gates was arrested in his home.
RACE (as always) has dominated the discourse.
I discredit the race issues to focus on what is far more important - Excessive police powers.
The INSISTENCE that this is at all a race issue (Mike Fisher) when even Gates has drifted away from that is absurd.
However, I think it's funny that a man who constantly preaches against trusting the word of the police and similar groups is accepting their word now." Big Man
Gross ... and tragic misunderstanding.
Myst be my fault. I've failed to communicate properly.
Once again. I am not interested in anybody's ..."word".
I reported an eye witness opinion.
The officer said Gates reaction was "strange".
Sounded strange to me from the Get Go.
Dude was tired and cranky. He shot his mouth off without cause. The cop was doing his job.
All that black man in America shit was REFLEX and PROJECTED ...
Creating A SELF FULFILLING PROPHESY.
You wit' me Big Man?
Cuz we been on different pages for a minute.
Cop lost control of the situation. It escalated. He threatened to arrest Gates if Gates didn't calm down. Cop said it. Couldn't back down. Painted himself into a corner. Arrested Gates. Case thrown out. Cop looks bad.
But nooooooooooooo.
Gates says some stupid shit about "being a black man."
If he had never said that - the question would never have been posed to Obama, or it would have been posed much differently.
Gates cried Fire in a crowded theater because he didn't like the movie.
The Plantation media blows on the embers of racism and old flames start to lick up.
Race dominates the national psyche. Memes take root. The Pavlovian reflexes of perceived White Supremacy kick in.
Meanwhile the prison industrial complex is gearing up for millions of more customers / inmates.
Not until one appreciates that this is as much an assault upon white people as it is black people will they fully escape the sticky grasp of the racism booby trap.
If Gates had said "I thought the Constitution protected my right be in a bad mood in my own home."
He would have been a hero.
DV
You speaking out of both sides of your both homie.
Tell me how you know what the officer "said" Gates did without the police report.
Tell me this, how do you know that Gates said anything about being a black man in America?
Those words, along with the comment about Gates being disrespectful or loud come from the accounts of POLICE OFFICERS.
Gates denies this. In fact, his entire account of the incident is VASTLY different from the one given by police and repeated as truth by bloggers and mainstream media folks. But, you keep using hte official account as the basis for your discussion on how he behaved.
Now, this officer has been shown to either be a liar or be bad with facts by the revisions and errors in his official report. Yet, you keep using that reports description of Gate's behavior to explain why this situation ended up in an arrest.
That's interesting to me. It's interesting that you would be so vested in what is an official recollection of what happened, even though there has been proof that the official recollection contains some pretty massive errors.
See, I agree with you that this issue was sidetracked by the race discussion and should have been about the fact that police officers arrest people for bad attitudes. I think that was WAY more important. I disagreed with you when you claimed that race wasn't a factor in Gates arrest.
I think that you're right, people are gradually becoming used to ceding their constitutional rights to those people deemed to be authority figures.
The problem is, from where I'm sitting, this has been going on for generations and it's been done by white folks and black folks. However, white folks ceded their rights voluntarily in many cases because their interests often were being protected by authority figures while black folks ceded their right involuntarily, typically because of violence by authority figures.
So, I disagree with you that this police state issues is as much a threat for white folks as it is for black folks. Different groups are affected differently by situations based on their power base.
Given your position on the impact of abortion on the black community, you should agree with me. All women are allowed by law to have abortions, but one group is having more abortions and, according to you, this is because of targeting.
Can't see why you refuse to admit the way that lines up with this issue. Must be that stubborn pride, homie.
Sorry DV violation of constitutional right wasn't in this script; this was a very banal representation of the angry Black man against the 'White Officer'.
If Crowley's a liar as Big Man suggests, its too late - show's over. Its commentary time and folks are caucasing on race and class matters in the US which was the whole point. If false arrests happen to everybody (regardless) then those particular public responses to SkipGate indicate that this is the accepted practice of the po-po. What is lacking among the people, all people is a collective voice to interrogate these very practices by the police force and the State that continually violate everyone's civilian liberties.
I nominate for Plantation Negroe any fool that says "Skippy" was "falsely arrested" and doesn't also recognize that "Skippy" was attempting to get arrested and successfully did so.
I also nominate for Plantation Negroe anyone that claims "Skippy" is a Plantation Negroe.
Plantation Negroes and crackas are by-and-large creatures of plantation adaptation. Guys like "Skippy" and our resident radical autonomist, Nulance, are aspiring plantation creators. These creations are, in academic parlance, memetic structures. Memetic structures are, in layman's terms, the "environment" (main mechanism of biological and cultural evolution) that the rest of live in.
We know that "Skippy" is a true believer in the "power" of memetic creation and adaptation. In many ways, Obama was like a son coming to the defense of his daddy instinctively resorting to an uncontrolled emotional outburst in daddy's defense. Yet, the overall memetic structure that was ULTIMATELY created for the intended market (plantation negroes) was the notion that in a post-racial presidency claims of white racism are still an effective tactic in garnering the object of the black man's desire. Meaning, hectoring white liberals about their conscious or subconscious racism is a tactic of gaining political, economic and cultural power even in the post-racial presidency.
This is why Nulance derides "Skippy" for not filing a "false arrest" claim. First, such a move would have nullified the "beer summit" where it was broadcast to the world that a black fundamentalist infiltrator and his protege DID NOT HAVE TO APOLOGIZE for false and unfounded claims of white racism. In fact, the POLICEMAN yielded his authority to the radical autonomists to the detriment of the masses. The academic and artful equivalent of NWA's "Eff the police." A cat like Nulance envies such powerful memetic creation and its ability to adapt the masses to its evolutionary direction. Yet, "Skippy" is fundamentally a competitor in memetic creation targeted for black mass adaptation. He derides "Skippy" because at the end of the day "Skippy" is far more radical and influential in memetic creation and adaptation than the vaunted Nulance.
So the question is this...?
Which memetic structure is closer to the reality?
The one that says "Skippy" absolutely and unequivocally provided no grounds for being arrested and that Crowley was a "racist" before he EVER faced Gates?
Or,
The one that says "Skippy" has played this very scenario out in his mind a million times ready to spring forth a memetic creation with an adaptation imperative designed to further his own interest as a radical autonomist manifested as a black fundamentalist infiltrator in the particular?
So the question is this...?
nah farcedaddy,
those aren't the questions.
the questions are these;
1. What do my nuts taste like?
since you swing off-of-em erryday of your gibberish-spouting life,
and,
when are you going to return to supervised psychiatric care and get back on your meds?
cause your shit - absolutely, positively - makes less, and less sense by the comment.
seriously,
every.single.comment.you.make
- is less cogent than the one you made before it.
Nah, Nulance... It makes perfect sense to acknowledge that "Skippy" wanted to get arrested by a "racist" white cop. Your willingness to deride him for not filing a "false arrest" complaint only serves to evidence your desire to appropriate "Skippy's" bold and radical memetic creation to serve your own selfish interests.
Are you in the business of memetic creation or not my lil' plantation negroe?
Cats chilling in their own houses, on the phone with their landlords, want to get arrested.
Crazy.
Nah, lil' man... Crazy is thinking dude was arrested for "chilling" in his house and talking to his landlord.
Oh, I don't think that at all.
Sad how guys like Gates can make a whole career out of race in this country.
First by denying it.
Then by playing victim to guilt-trip and try to earn back a little street cred.
Gates - Please just get a real job, that actually has a productive role in society.
How come Obama didn't also say this when he won the Presidency or Lebron when he got crowned MVP???
"Why, because I'm a black man in America?"
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