Who is the first brother with the beard and the head cover?
I am proud that at least two of the men that you appear to have some amount of pride in did not lose their skin pigmentation through some unexplaiable bout with "vitiligo".
I am sorry. I was wrong to be so critical of Michael Jackson.
I was very unsympathetic and uncaring.
After watching this video..........I am motivated to go upstairs and tell my wife that I want a LITTLE WHITE KID to go along with our other children.
I will tell her to stop taking her pills, removing all of those hormoes out of her system so that she and I can procreate and CREATE A LITTLE WHITE KID of our own!!!
Just like any "Non-strange Black Couple" would want as their own.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvcGFiqxnOY
(DV - I accepted your "Lil Wayne" addiction because I assume there is an age difference between us.
YOU ARE HURTING ME SOMETHING TERRIBLE with the "Michael Jackson Is Still Black" thing. Despite all of the proof that is pimpslapping you in the face telling you "Bytch Betta Have My Money"
So DV, you think Quincy Jones is a Plantation Negro, too? Cause this is what he had to say about Mike: Michael did not want to be black:
"Q: You were there to witness the strange evolution in Michael's appearance. Did you ever step in and saying anything about it? A: Oh, we talked about it all the time. But he'd come up with, "Man, I promise you I have this disease," and so forth, and "I have a blister on my lungs," and all that kind of b.s. It's hard, because Michael's a Virgo, man—he's very set in his ways. You can't talk him out of it. Chemical peels and all that stuff. Q: Did you believe him about the disease? A: I don't believe in any of that bullshit, no. No. Never. I've been around junkies and stuff all my life. I've heard every excuse. It's like smokers—"I only smoke when I drink" and all that stuff. But it's bullshit. You're justifying something that's destructive to your existence. It's crazy. I mean, I came up with Ray Charles, man. You know, nobody gonna pull no wool over my eyes. He did heroin 20 years! Come on. And black coffee and gin for 40 years. But when he called me to come over to see him when he was in the hospital on his way out, man, he had emphysema, hepatitis C, cirrhosis of the liver, and five malignant tumors. Please, man! I've been around this all my life. So it's hard for somebody to pull the wool over my eyes. But when somebody's hell-bent on it, you can't stop 'em.
Q: But it must've been so disturbing to see Michael's face turn into what it turned into. A: It's ridiculous, man! Chemical peels and all of it. And I don't understand it. But he obviously didn't want to be black.
Q: Is that what it was? A: Well, what do you think? You see his kids?"
DV, the whole point of procreation is to replicate oneself into the future. In order to do that one has to be imbued with some sense of self-worth. I.e., I feel good enough about myself to project myself into the future through my children. That is why most people have biological children rather than adopting kids. When a person purposely buys themselves some kids who he knows are gonna look as far removed as possible from what he knows what his own genes would produce, that to anyone with a logical mind is a strong indicator for self-hate.
It was impossible for the "GOAT" to accept he was black.
But even more impossible for his black fans to accept that.
Because for him to deny his blackness, would be to deny them. And to realize that all that love they gave him, was never returned but funneled only to whites.
And if the "GOAT" couldn't stand being black, then how can the average black joe stand it?
The implications here run far too deep and painfully disturbing to admit. So denial is the only real option short of a racial identity meltdown. And the acknowledgment of white supremacy.
Let's face it, when your "GOAT" defects to the other side, what are you left with? Be like if Patton joined the Axis. Game over.
Of course the Plantation is celebrating Michael. He is the ultimate symbol of white pride. When it comes so unbelievably strong and extremely from - a top leader of the "opposing" side. Michael will always fondly be remembered as the ultimate white wannabe.
I mean, when you start that high, you can fall pretty far and still be up there...but while MLK rates Messiah status (and may not have to rate 2000 years to get the title), MJ doesn't measure up to the first two. And MJ is AWESOME.
[quote]Feedback, the Plantation has your head all messed up.
They've got you thinking that some little short handkerchief head Negro sitting on a "court" has the POWER to make you ANYTHING.[/quote]
DV:
MY HEAD IS "All Messed Up"????? While you continue to extend "BLACKNESS" to Michael Jackson?
1) I am looking at my two brown skinned hands as I type this "consciousness attempt" to you. Yup I am about the same complexion that MIKE started OUT AS when he was a little boy.
2) I have TWO BLACK KIDS!!! In my quest to repopulate the Earth with some children that I could mold as my own - I CHOSE A BLACK FEMALE as a genetic complement.
Now please understand - I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BLACK PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO MARRY OUTSIDE OF THEIR RACE. I really don't.
I only have a problem with Black people who HATE THEMSELVES SO MUCH that they can't even use THEIR OWN SPERM CELLS because they would POLLUTE THE WHITE KIDS that they were hoping to bear!!!
DENMARK VESEY!!!! If NOTHING ELSE STICKS WITH YOU - please consider this!!!!
The Michael Jackson estate and ROYALTIES are going to EXIT THE BLACK COMMUNITY and will now go to his WHITE KIDS!!!!
Can I get you to at least give me an "Amen" on THAT ONE??? DAMN!!!
Too funny! Good quote Fisher. I always had some suspicion about the vitiligo claim since I never saw a sign or heard anyone mention it until after Thriller.
Only a person with an extreme plantation mentality would serve the propagandistic interest of the enemies of truth and justice by comparing this self-annihilative entertainer to a revolutionary like Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
This drug addict, with the help of exploitative, unethical doctors killed himself with plantation medicine. He was a tragic figure, who in his death will provide millions of dollars to Jews and other white folks.
If anything Michael Jackson was the whitest Negro on the planet, because he did exactly what white supremacists expect negroes to do—KILL HIMSELF!
I think folks need to be a bit more compassionate. MJ was a victim of the extremely vicious system of white supremacy after all. It killed him psychologically long before he succumbed last month.
Michael Jackson will be seen as the greatest Uncle Tom and poster child for white supremacy in world history. Dude loved "being white" even more than a KKK granddragon.
He has single-handedly elevated white worship and white-love to new, simply unheard of heights.
1) Subjected himself to so many repeated plastic surgeries, skin bleaching and a straight wig.
2) Not only did he choose not to have black kids with a sista, or even adopt black kids - but actually genetically-engineer white Aryan kids from scratch like a Hitler lab assistant. And then give them all the love and money that he got from his black fans.
You couldn't write a fictional character who went to such extremes and have readers believe it was even possible. Yet, it's totally real!
[quote]I think folks need to be a bit more compassionate. MJ was a victim of the extremely vicious system of white supremacy after all. It killed him psychologically long before he succumbed last month.[/quote]
Mr Fisher:
In addition to the "White Supremacy" which is a sentiment seen in WHITE FOLKS........you would be remiss to not talk about the "NON-WHITE White Supremacy" that is seen in Black folks and others.
It is my opinion that Black folks today experience more harm from "Non-White White Supremacy" than from any act that a White man can do which violates our civil rights and he can walk away free without being punished under the law.
"Non-White White Supremacy" has one seeing being ALLOWED to dance on "MTv" as being more VALUABLE TO YOUR RACIAL CONFIDENCE than when you perform the exact same dance at the Apollo Theater. (I can't say BET instead of Apollo because Sumner Redstone owns both MTv and BET these days).
^ Agreed. The non-white white supremacy is a much more subversive form. For it is white supremacy disguised as black pride.
You look at black heroes like Michael Jackson and to a lesser extent OJ, Tiger Woods, Jimi Hendrix, etc. They all sucked up all the money and love from black fans and give it primarily to whites only.
Once they crossed over, only hell or high water could ever force them back.
If white worship were a religion, Michael Jackson would be its "Jesus Christ." In fact, you could argue that he did practice white worship as his religion. He reminds me of the old animalistic priests and shamans who would don bizarre animal masks of their deities. Well Michael did the same thing permanently with his gods - white folk.
If you read about that brother he never turned his back on black people.
It was more a sense of him wanting to do something different from what black folks expected him to do. And not having that space among the black folks of the time.
I think Mike is similar. Mike wanted to step away from what he was doing at Motown, but many folks wanted to limit him on where he went.
Now, I think Mike went to far and there is ample evidence that he has some problems with his blackness. Did he hate black folks, I'm not so sure. But, he clearly didn't want to look like a black man.
That's an understandable issue in this country. We all have been trained since birth that our looks are inferior. It takes a lot of strength to break that conditioning.
"The Michael Jackson estate and ROYALTIES are going to EXIT THE BLACK COMMUNITY and will now go to his WHITE KIDS!!!!"
Lemme see.
These are kids who did not choose to be born the way they are, grew up raised by a black man and a black nanny, and have black aunts, uncles, and grandparents and you take it upon yourself to exclude them from the black community?
And who the hell exactly are you? The arbiter of blackness and human existence?
"They all sucked up all the money and love from black fans and give it primarily to whites only."
That ain't so. The vast majority of the income these artists received came from white and non-black fans. That's the essence of the definition of "pop".
MJ just wanted to look like Walt Disney's version of Peter Pan. How that's not obvious of a man looking as he did and who named his home "Neverland" is pretty laughable.
Are we also to suppose that Walt Disney's pop fantasies were never intended to cater to or derive revenue from a Black audience?
The vast majority of the income these artists received came from white and non-black fans. That's the essence of the definition of "pop"
Perhaps in absolute numbers, but they still got a far larger return on their investment.
Bottom line: Michael Jackson has legitimized white worship by black males like no KKK leader ever could. In the same way Madonna legitimized white girls wanting to be bitchy sluts (see her heirs, Britney and Christina). The real downstream effects of this will only be seen as the generation of black kids who grew up only seeing Michael as a white man slowly enter adulthood. They will fully embrace the "white is right" mentality.
A 6-yo child seeing Michael for the first time, without knowing his background, would naturally assume he was white.
Daddy, why did so many black people love that white man? Son, he was the GOAT. But he's not white, he's black! Whhaat? But why does he look white then? Well son, he had many operations and procedures done.. But why? What was wrong with him? Well...he was black. But I'm black too. :(
That's why I say the next generation will be the most prone to his racial influence of white supremacy.
A 6-yo child seeing Michael for the first time, without knowing his background, would naturally assume he was white.
Daddy, why did so many black people love that white man? Son, he was the GOAT. But he's not white, he's black! Whhaat? But why does he look white then? Well son, he had many operations and procedures done.. But why? What was wrong with him? Well...he was black. But I'm black too.
I don't know what adult would let a child look at the Bad-forward MJ without providing context.
My daughters (the younger is 7) have seen the early MJ with his brothers on the Ed Sullivan show.
That kid looks happy.
They know that their mother had a crush on that kid.
They also know that the most recent incarnation of MJ looks creepy.
We've told tham that MJ was born at a time when it was more common for black kids to feel bad about themselves, even when they had MJ's talent. And that MJ's relationship with his father probably didn't help him.
They've also seen that the recent versions of MJ didn't look all that happy, despite all the changes, and that his brothers, who are substantially less altered, are the way MJ would have looked if he had left well enough alone.
The seven year old has concluded that he was better off the way he was when he was a boy, and that if he had to get surgery, he should have stopped with the face he had on the Thriller album. And she feels sorry that he wasn't happy enough with himself to do that.
My wife and I cosign. And we presume that plenty of black families are having the same sort of discussion.
Michael Jackson made black people feel good the same way narcotics makes people feel temporarily good. This is feeling good without doing anything to help anyone, to improve conditions, to solve problems, to empower people to take control of their lives.
If that's how you define blackness, then you have one asinine definition.
That’s why this iconic entertainer can’t be compared to a great man like Dr. King—the person who mobilized millions of people into positive action to change their lives.
"I challenge anybody to paste a link to a white person who looks like Michael Jackson."
I challenge you to paste a link from any white person who looks like another white person, DV (identical twins excepted).
Thus that statement of yours is completely vacuous. The point is that MJ clearly did not want to be as he was born and defined by nature. Altering one's appearance to that point indicates self-hatred.
Plus I never said Mike wasn't black. In fact, I said he WAS black just up thread. But he was a black man who obviously had a struggle with his self-image.
Only a person with the most extreme plantation mentality would make such a statement which is pure white supremacist, split-brain, reduce Black people to pure emotions… bullshit.
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Michael Fisher - you are walking into a zone that presently only KCNulan and Denmark Vesey presently reside with me (but for different reasons between both of them).
[quote]Non-white white supremacy is not a logical term.[/quote]
This term is CRYSTAL CLEAR.
"White Supremacy" is when WHITE FOLKS believe that their "genetic gifts" make them some how better, smarter, more accomplished than all of the other people in the world.
"Non-White White Supremacy" is when a PERSON WHO IS NOT WHITE believes these very same damend things..........ABOUT WHITE FOLKS!!!!
When they are matched, Mano-E-Mano with a WHITE PERSON in an otherwise open test......it is their poisoned mind that has them with their FOOT on the same starting line as the White man who is about to run next to them........but their MINDS are about 10 feet back, unsure and inferior about his ability to COMPETE on the surface ahead that otherwise looks flat after so many grading machines were used to "level the playing field" right before they put the rubberized track surface down for the indiscriinate runner to make use of the surface.
[quote]"The Michael Jackson estate and ROYALTIES are going to EXIT THE BLACK COMMUNITY and will now go to his WHITE KIDS!!!!"
Lemme see.
These are kids who did not choose to be born the way they are, grew up raised by a black man and a black nanny, and have black aunts, uncles, and grandparents and you take it upon yourself to exclude them from the black community?[/quote]
Michael Fisher - it is important that I tell you WHY YOU ARE WRONG rather than "that you are wrong".
Did you see how YOU shifted the focus TO THE KIDS and their innocence in choosing the circumstances within they were born?
CLEARLY the key point is that MICHAEL JACKSON's preference for WHITE KIDS as his own is the precipitating factor on where his MILLIONS will end up.
Here is what is so frustrating. There is incessant talk 'within the Black community' regarding the EXIT OF WEALTH FROM OUR COMMUNITY. Now this requires a bit of speculation, Mr Fischer, but if his 3 kids had to GO PASSING - you'd agree that they would have to "PASS FOR BLACK". When they live their adult lives - what is the chance that they will have a Black persona and thus allow DV's label of "The Blackest Man On The Planet" awarded to Jackson will be handed through to his kids, just as his NEGROID GENES were not?
(Hey DV - On the television right now is Entertainment Tonight and MJ's White kids. Also the nasty looking Debbie Rowe. Her only qualification as the mother of his children was her WHITE GENES.)
KCNulan - they sit well with YOUR VERSION of "the truth".
We must appreciate the power of INDIVIDUAL PERSPECTIVE.
A man with a lopsided head where one eye sits higher than the other can look at a street going up a hill and per HIS SENSES he will see a flat road ahead.
[quote]I challenge anybody to paste a link to a white person who looks like Michael Jackson. [/quote]
Denmark Vesey - I challenge you to find ANY BLACK PERSON who could naturally transform from his physical attributes shown in 1969 when he appeared on the world stage over to that which he looked like in 2002.
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44 comments:
Who is the first brother with the beard and the head cover?
I am proud that at least two of the men that you appear to have some amount of pride in did not lose their skin pigmentation through some unexplaiable bout with "vitiligo".
Jesus indeed works in mysterous ways.
Mike lost his pigment.
When is the last time you've seen your soul?
Michael Jackson's spirit was powerful enough to warm the world yesterday.
People around the WORLD GATHERED IN GOOD GRACE AND GOOD SPIRITS AND IN THE NAME OF LOVE to pay their respects to Michael Jackson.
He brought people together at a time when the Plantation is doing everything in it's power to pull us apart and make us hate each other.
Michael made the world smile yesterday. He made people feel good. He was a good man.
He's more alive today than 99% of the people walking around.
... and you talkin' 'bout some Clarance Thomas.
When he dies, he'll be lucky if his wife shows up.
[quote]... and you talkin' 'bout some Clarance Thomas.
When he dies, he'll be lucky if his wife shows up.[/quote]
Denmark Vesey:
When Clarence Thomas is DONE with his handiwork......YOU will be made EQUAL UNDER THE LAW AS A BLACK MAN.
This is what you and others fear the most.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGLhx3oiU3M
Denmark and Insurgent and Anon:
I am sorry.
I was wrong to be so critical of Michael Jackson.
I was very unsympathetic and uncaring.
After watching this video..........I am motivated to go upstairs and tell my wife that I want a LITTLE WHITE KID to go along with our other children.
I will tell her to stop taking her pills, removing all of those hormoes out of her system so that she and I can procreate and CREATE A LITTLE WHITE KID of our own!!!
Just like any "Non-strange Black Couple" would want as their own.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvcGFiqxnOY
(DV - I accepted your "Lil Wayne" addiction because I assume there is an age difference between us.
YOU ARE HURTING ME SOMETHING TERRIBLE with the "Michael Jackson Is Still Black" thing. Despite all of the proof that is pimpslapping you in the face telling you "Bytch Betta Have My Money"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvcGFiqxnOY
"YOU will be made EQUAL UNDER THE LAW AS A BLACK MAN." CF
"Made" ... "Equal" ... by Clarence Thomas?
Man. That may have been one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard in my live.
Why in the hell would I ever want to be "made equal"?
I'm SUPERIOR as a black man.
Mwwwahhhh! Mwahhhhh!! (kissing myself)
That's what you Plantation Negros can't seem to get through your heads.
Feedback, the Plantation has your head all messed up.
They've got you thinking that some little short handkerchief head Negro sitting on a "court" has the POWER to make you ANYTHING.
(Lord ha' mercy. I got work to do)
rotflmbao....,
So DV, you think Quincy Jones is a Plantation Negro, too? Cause this is what he had to say about Mike: Michael did not want to be black:
"Q: You were there to witness the strange evolution in Michael's appearance. Did you ever step in and saying anything about it?
A: Oh, we talked about it all the time. But he'd come up with, "Man, I promise you I have this disease," and so forth, and "I have a blister on my lungs," and all that kind of b.s. It's hard, because Michael's a Virgo, man—he's very set in his ways. You can't talk him out of it. Chemical peels and all that stuff.
Q: Did you believe him about the disease?
A: I don't believe in any of that bullshit, no. No. Never. I've been around junkies and stuff all my life. I've heard every excuse. It's like smokers—"I only smoke when I drink" and all that stuff. But it's bullshit. You're justifying something that's destructive to your existence. It's crazy. I mean, I came up with Ray Charles, man. You know, nobody gonna pull no wool over my eyes. He did heroin 20 years! Come on. And black coffee and gin for 40 years. But when he called me to come over to see him when he was in the hospital on his way out, man, he had emphysema, hepatitis C, cirrhosis of the liver, and five malignant tumors. Please, man! I've been around this all my life. So it's hard for somebody to pull the wool over my eyes. But when somebody's hell-bent on it, you can't stop 'em.
Q: But it must've been so disturbing to see Michael's face turn into what it turned into.
A: It's ridiculous, man! Chemical peels and all of it. And I don't understand it. But he obviously didn't want to be black.
Q: Is that what it was?
A: Well, what do you think? You see his kids?"
Here's the link
DV, the whole point of procreation is to replicate oneself into the future. In order to do that one has to be imbued with some sense of self-worth. I.e., I feel good enough about myself to project myself into the future through my children. That is why most people have biological children rather than adopting kids. When a person purposely buys themselves some kids who he knows are gonna look as far removed as possible from what he knows what his own genes would produce, that to anyone with a logical mind is a strong indicator for self-hate.
It was impossible for the "GOAT" to accept he was black.
But even more impossible for his black fans to accept that.
Because for him to deny his blackness, would be to deny them. And to realize that all that love they gave him, was never returned but funneled only to whites.
And if the "GOAT" couldn't stand being black, then how can the average black joe stand it?
The implications here run far too deep and painfully disturbing to admit. So denial is the only real option short of a racial identity meltdown. And the acknowledgment of white supremacy.
Let's face it, when your "GOAT" defects to the other side, what are you left with? Be like if Patton joined the Axis. Game over.
Of course the Plantation is celebrating Michael. He is the ultimate symbol of white pride. When it comes so unbelievably strong and extremely from - a top leader of the "opposing" side. Michael will always fondly be remembered as the ultimate white wannabe.
Wow, quite a trinity.
Jesus (I assume)
MLK
MJ
Kind of diminishing returns?
I mean, when you start that high, you can fall pretty far and still be up there...but while MLK rates Messiah status (and may not have to rate 2000 years to get the title), MJ doesn't measure up to the first two. And MJ is AWESOME.
[quote]Feedback, the Plantation has your head all messed up.
They've got you thinking that some little short handkerchief head Negro sitting on a "court" has the POWER to make you ANYTHING.[/quote]
DV:
MY HEAD IS "All Messed Up"?????
While you continue to extend "BLACKNESS" to Michael Jackson?
1) I am looking at my two brown skinned hands as I type this "consciousness attempt" to you. Yup I am about the same complexion that MIKE started OUT AS when he was a little boy.
2) I have TWO BLACK KIDS!!! In my quest to repopulate the Earth with some children that I could mold as my own - I CHOSE A BLACK FEMALE as a genetic complement.
Now please understand - I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BLACK PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO MARRY OUTSIDE OF THEIR RACE. I really don't.
I only have a problem with Black people who HATE THEMSELVES SO MUCH that they can't even use THEIR OWN SPERM CELLS because they would POLLUTE THE WHITE KIDS that they were hoping to bear!!!
DENMARK VESEY!!!! If NOTHING ELSE STICKS WITH YOU - please consider this!!!!
The Michael Jackson estate and ROYALTIES are going to EXIT THE BLACK COMMUNITY and will now go to his WHITE KIDS!!!!
Can I get you to at least give me an "Amen" on THAT ONE??? DAMN!!!
Kind of diminishing returns?
Too funny! Good quote Fisher. I always had some suspicion about the vitiligo claim since I never saw a sign or heard anyone mention it until after Thriller.
Well said Mr. Fisher.
Only a person with an extreme plantation mentality would serve the propagandistic interest of the enemies of truth and justice by comparing this self-annihilative entertainer to a revolutionary like Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
This drug addict, with the help of exploitative, unethical doctors killed himself with plantation medicine. He was a tragic figure, who in his death will provide millions of dollars to Jews and other white folks.
If anything Michael Jackson was the whitest Negro on the planet, because he did exactly what white supremacists expect negroes to do—KILL HIMSELF!
I think folks need to be a bit more compassionate. MJ was a victim of the extremely vicious system of white supremacy after all. It killed him psychologically long before he succumbed last month.
Michael Jackson will be seen as the greatest Uncle Tom and poster child for white supremacy in world history. Dude loved "being white" even more than a KKK granddragon.
He has single-handedly elevated white worship and white-love to new, simply unheard of heights.
1) Subjected himself to so many repeated plastic surgeries, skin bleaching and a straight wig.
2) Not only did he choose not to have black kids with a sista, or even adopt black kids - but actually genetically-engineer white Aryan kids from scratch like a Hitler lab assistant. And then give them all the love and money that he got from his black fans.
You couldn't write a fictional character who went to such extremes and have readers believe it was even possible. Yet, it's totally real!
Anon
You have a point. Yet, I don't blame a brother for being weak in the face of extreme duress. Everybody ain't built for this life.
[quote]I think folks need to be a bit more compassionate. MJ was a victim of the extremely vicious system of white supremacy after all. It killed him psychologically long before he succumbed last month.[/quote]
Mr Fisher:
In addition to the "White Supremacy" which is a sentiment seen in WHITE FOLKS........you would be remiss to not talk about the "NON-WHITE White Supremacy" that is seen in Black folks and others.
It is my opinion that Black folks today experience more harm from "Non-White White Supremacy" than from any act that a White man can do which violates our civil rights and he can walk away free without being punished under the law.
"Non-White White Supremacy" has one seeing being ALLOWED to dance on "MTv" as being more VALUABLE TO YOUR RACIAL CONFIDENCE than when you perform the exact same dance at the Apollo Theater. (I can't say BET instead of Apollo because Sumner Redstone owns both MTv and BET these days).
^ Agreed. The non-white white supremacy is a much more subversive form. For it is white supremacy disguised as black pride.
You look at black heroes like Michael Jackson and to a lesser extent OJ, Tiger Woods, Jimi Hendrix, etc. They all sucked up all the money and love from black fans and give it primarily to whites only.
Once they crossed over, only hell or high water could ever force them back.
If white worship were a religion, Michael Jackson would be its "Jesus Christ." In fact, you could argue that he did practice white worship as his religion. He reminds me of the old animalistic priests and shamans who would don bizarre animal masks of their deities. Well Michael did the same thing permanently with his gods - white folk.
Anon
I disagree on Jimi Hendrix.
If you read about that brother he never turned his back on black people.
It was more a sense of him wanting to do something different from what black folks expected him to do. And not having that space among the black folks of the time.
I think Mike is similar. Mike wanted to step away from what he was doing at Motown, but many folks wanted to limit him on where he went.
Now, I think Mike went to far and there is ample evidence that he has some problems with his blackness. Did he hate black folks, I'm not so sure. But, he clearly didn't want to look like a black man.
That's an understandable issue in this country. We all have been trained since birth that our looks are inferior. It takes a lot of strength to break that conditioning.
Non-white white supremacy is not a logical term. Thus I really don't know how to address this concept of yours.
Constructive Feedback:
"The Michael Jackson estate and ROYALTIES are going to EXIT THE BLACK COMMUNITY and will now go to his WHITE KIDS!!!!"
Lemme see.
These are kids who did not choose to be born the way they are, grew up raised by a black man and a black nanny, and have black aunts, uncles, and grandparents and you take it upon yourself to exclude them from the black community?
And who the hell exactly are you? The arbiter of blackness and human existence?
I aint never seen someone work so hard to miss the point....Damn.
Putting aside Michael's appearance, we all know he was Black, correct?!
Thus, a Black man made the world stand still on Tuesday.
A Black man virtually shut down the internet.
A Black man shut down the city of the Los Angeles.
Ever better, a Black man shut down the 405 freeway.
Why cant some Black folk simply take pride in that instead of trying so hard to make it not so.
I dont get it. SMH.
Anon...
"They all sucked up all the money and love from black fans and give it primarily to whites only."
That ain't so. The vast majority of the income these artists received came from white and non-black fans. That's the essence of the definition of "pop".
RJesq and Fisher are truth.
MJ just wanted to look like Walt Disney's version of Peter Pan. How that's not obvious of a man looking as he did and who named his home "Neverland" is pretty laughable.
Are we also to suppose that Walt Disney's pop fantasies were never intended to cater to or derive revenue from a Black audience?
The vast majority of the income these artists received came from white and non-black fans. That's the essence of the definition of "pop"
Perhaps in absolute numbers, but they still got a far larger return on their investment.
Bottom line: Michael Jackson has legitimized white worship by black males like no KKK leader ever could. In the same way Madonna legitimized white girls wanting to be bitchy sluts (see her heirs, Britney and Christina). The real downstream effects of this will only be seen as the generation of black kids who grew up only seeing Michael as a white man slowly enter adulthood. They will fully embrace the "white is right" mentality.
and Black males are rushing in droves to emulate the MJ--->Peter Pan extreme self-modification fetish.
ain't-I'm-an-ass (byrdeye)- you're desperately clutching at non-existent straws.
Please identify 12 other individual examples in support of your contention that MJ has effectively led a charge that anybody else has joined.
If you can't then STFU already.
So let me get this straight....
Anonymous (please pick a name), your argument is that Michael Jackson made people think he was a white man, and that why he was so loved?
...I dont even know what to say....
Name one person "who aint know" Mike was Black?
A 6-yo child seeing Michael for the first time, without knowing his background, would naturally assume he was white.
Daddy, why did so many black people love that white man?
Son, he was the GOAT. But he's not white, he's black!
Whhaat? But why does he look white then?
Well son, he had many operations and procedures done..
But why? What was wrong with him?
Well...he was black.
But I'm black too.
:(
That's why I say the next generation will be the most prone to his racial influence of white supremacy.
A 6-yo child seeing Michael for the first time, without knowing his background, would naturally assume he was white.
Daddy, why did so many black people love that white man?
Son, he was the GOAT. But he's not white, he's black!
Whhaat? But why does he look white then?
Well son, he had many operations and procedures done..
But why? What was wrong with him?
Well...he was black.
But I'm black too.
I don't know what adult would let a child look at the Bad-forward MJ without providing context.
My daughters (the younger is 7) have seen the early MJ with his brothers on the Ed Sullivan show.
That kid looks happy.
They know that their mother had a crush on that kid.
They also know that the most recent incarnation of MJ looks creepy.
We've told tham that MJ was born at a time when it was more common for black kids to feel bad about themselves, even when they had MJ's talent. And that MJ's relationship with his father probably didn't help him.
They've also seen that the recent versions of MJ didn't look all that happy, despite all the changes, and that his brothers, who are substantially less altered, are the way MJ would have looked if he had left well enough alone.
The seven year old has concluded that he was better off the way he was when he was a boy, and that if he had to get surgery, he should have stopped with the face he had on the Thriller album. And she feels sorry that he wasn't happy enough with himself to do that.
My wife and I cosign. And we presume that plenty of black families are having the same sort of discussion.
That scenario doesnt have to go that way.
"But why does he look like that?"
"Because celebrities often change the way they look. Looks a mess huh? Didnt he look way better with his afro?
"Yep."
"Son, I remember when I used to have an afro"
"For real Dad?"
"Yep"
"Lil Wayne has dreads, I think I want that when I get big."
"Oh yeah son, we'll see. We'll see."
Exactly.
Chicken Little ain't got nothing on Anonymous.
Mike been looking like he looked for a long time.
I haven't seen a rush on skin bleaching creams yet. I would wager there was more demand for those projects in the pre-MJ days than the post-MJ days.
That explains it.
Ain't-I'm-an-ass pretends to view the world through the lens of an imaginary 6 year old child.
A 6-yo child seeing Michael for the first time, without knowing his background, would naturally assume he was white.
only if that child was under the impression that whites are elvish extraterrestrials...,
I haven't seen a rush on skin bleaching creams yet.
those products still go guns in east asia Big Man, but I don't think MJ's a big factor underlying that trend.
which brings me to the observation that MJ also had a very anime-esque look about him there toward the end.
must've been the influence of those extremely low self-esteem Japanese and their dadgummed round-eyed and elfin featured cartoons...,
Thank God for Robyn and CNu.
I challenge anybody to paste a link to a white person who looks like Michael Jackson.
I aint never seen nobody look like Michael.
But this is what the Mike Fisher camp never quite understood. Black aint how you look.
Black is how you make people feel.
Michael.
Jackson.
Is.
The.
Blackest.
Man.
On.
The.
Planet.
What exactly is GOAT by the way?
Michael Jackson made black people feel good the same way narcotics makes people feel temporarily good. This is feeling good without doing anything to help anyone, to improve conditions, to solve problems, to empower people to take control of their lives.
If that's how you define blackness, then you have one asinine definition.
That’s why this iconic entertainer can’t be compared to a great man like Dr. King—the person who mobilized millions of people into positive action to change their lives.
DV...
"I challenge anybody to paste a link to a white person who looks like Michael Jackson."
I challenge you to paste a link from any white person who looks like another white person, DV (identical twins excepted).
Thus that statement of yours is completely vacuous. The point is that MJ clearly did not want to be as he was born and defined by nature. Altering one's appearance to that point indicates self-hatred.
Plus I never said Mike wasn't black. In fact, I said he WAS black just up thread. But he was a black man who obviously had a struggle with his self-image.
Men who are brutalized by their fathers tend to avoid the emotional and physical responsibility of being a man.
II,
GOAT is Greatest Of All Time.
Black is how you make people feel.
Only a person with the most extreme plantation mentality would make such a statement which is pure white supremacist, split-brain, reduce Black people to pure emotions… bullshit.
“In general, their existence appears to participate more of sensation than reflection.” Thomas Jefferson
“Black is how you make people feel.” Avatar Denmark Vesey
Jefferson and the Avatar Vesey--two of a kind.
Michael Fisher - you are walking into a zone that presently only KCNulan and Denmark Vesey presently reside with me (but for different reasons between both of them).
[quote]Non-white white supremacy is not a logical term.[/quote]
This term is CRYSTAL CLEAR.
"White Supremacy" is when WHITE FOLKS believe that their "genetic gifts" make them some how better, smarter, more accomplished than all of the other people in the world.
"Non-White White Supremacy" is when a PERSON WHO IS NOT WHITE believes these very same damend things..........ABOUT WHITE FOLKS!!!!
When they are matched, Mano-E-Mano with a WHITE PERSON in an otherwise open test......it is their poisoned mind that has them with their FOOT on the same starting line as the White man who is about to run next to them........but their MINDS are about 10 feet back, unsure and inferior about his ability to COMPETE on the surface ahead that otherwise looks flat after so many grading machines were used to "level the playing field" right before they put the rubberized track surface down for the indiscriinate runner to make use of the surface.
[quote]"The Michael Jackson estate and ROYALTIES are going to EXIT THE BLACK COMMUNITY and will now go to his WHITE KIDS!!!!"
Lemme see.
These are kids who did not choose to be born the way they are, grew up raised by a black man and a black nanny, and have black aunts, uncles, and grandparents and you take it upon yourself to exclude them from the black community?[/quote]
Michael Fisher - it is important that I tell you WHY YOU ARE WRONG rather than "that you are wrong".
Did you see how YOU shifted the focus TO THE KIDS and their innocence in choosing the circumstances within they were born?
CLEARLY the key point is that MICHAEL JACKSON's preference for WHITE KIDS as his own is the precipitating factor on where his MILLIONS will end up.
Here is what is so frustrating. There is incessant talk 'within the Black community' regarding the EXIT OF WEALTH FROM OUR COMMUNITY.
Now this requires a bit of speculation, Mr Fischer, but if his 3 kids had to GO PASSING - you'd agree that they would have to "PASS FOR BLACK". When they live their adult lives - what is the chance that they will have a Black persona and thus allow DV's label of "The Blackest Man On The Planet" awarded to Jackson will be handed through to his kids, just as his NEGROID GENES were not?
(Hey DV - On the television right now is Entertainment Tonight and MJ's White kids. Also the nasty looking Debbie Rowe. Her only qualification as the mother of his children was her WHITE GENES.)
[quote]RJesq and Fisher are truth.
[/quote]
KCNulan - they sit well with YOUR VERSION of "the truth".
We must appreciate the power of INDIVIDUAL PERSPECTIVE.
A man with a lopsided head where one eye sits higher than the other can look at a street going up a hill and per HIS SENSES he will see a flat road ahead.
[quote]I challenge anybody to paste a link to a white person who looks like Michael Jackson.
[/quote]
Denmark Vesey - I challenge you to find ANY BLACK PERSON who could naturally transform from his physical attributes shown in 1969 when he appeared on the world stage over to that which he looked like in 2002.
^Was Adam Clayton Powell, Jr a white man, Constructive?
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