That Dude said ...
"Art can be a stunningly effective tool of change.Narrow minded people think it can only happen through law or war.
But beauty and love can change the world too. It just scares some people to recognize that."
Wednesday, July 08, 2009
Michael Jackson: A requiem for a king - Al Sharpton Corrects 25 Years of Plantation Disinformation About MJ In 7 Minutes
That Dude said ..."Art can be a stunningly effective tool of change.Narrow minded people think it can only happen through law or war.
But beauty and love can change the world too. It just scares some people to recognize that."
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I'm not one to plug my own blog in other people's comments section... but if you want to hear a sampling of right-wing radio personalities shit-talking Michael yesterday, I got it.
Undercover Black Man:
Think of it all as "Group Behavior 101".
Each group has its "protected individuals" where if someone talks about them they are a "hater" and then they have their own "Goats". If someone DEFENDS the "Goat" to a group member then THAT PERSON will be subjected to attack.
In the Black Quasi-Socialist Progressive-Fundamentalist Racism Chaser community - Michael Jackson is protected and Clarence Thomas is a goat.
To the White, Right wing community - the attacks upon Ronald Reagan upon his death was words spoken against a "protected individual".
I detect no more "intrinsic evil" in one particular group of Americans than in another - REGARDLESS of their ideology. They both use the same tactics.
I do believe that some of these right wing hosts have pushed it too far. They need to let it ride and allow the man to be put in to the ground.
At the same time I, as a Black man, REFUSE to allow someone's insult upon "Michael Jackson" be used in a cajoling attempt by another to look past those who are failing our Public Schools in the Black Community and instead vote for this person BECAUSE he is running against someone who attacked MJ.
We have allowed CELEBRITY to take over the governance and management of our community for far too long now.
When Clarence Thomas dies some Blacks are going to burn a cross on the lawn of the church that holds his funeral service and a good portion of Black America will take no offense to it. They already call him names that many a Black man was called prior to him being strung up by a tree.
Constructive Feedback ...
1 Michael Jackson is worth 1,000,000 Clarence Thomas'.
To both blacks and whites alike.
You are not really comparing a handkerchief head Plantation Negro bureaucratic functionary to the King of Pop are you?
DV you don't feel like Justice Thomas's contribution to American jurisprudence are worth anything? I am surprised. You of all people talk about the plantation media, and I have never seen anything they've said that justifies hatred of that man.
CF with his plumb crazy self has a point;)
[quote]1 Michael Jackson is worth 1,000,000 Clarence Thomas'.[/quote]
Denmark Vesey:
I have learned through years of being disappointed afterward, that: I AM NOT ABLE TO CHANGE THE THINKING OF A GROWN AZZED MAN!!!!
This man is going to CHOOSE to retain his particular biases because in cleaving to them they provide more comfort and does a CHANGE in his ways. From this he must also accept that he has DONE EVERYTHING NECESSARY TO RESIDE where he presently stands and should be content with this fact.
Thus DV - you are free to place this valuation of MJ and the devaluation OF CT - as you wish. Neither of your assessments cause me to lose any sleep.
You must one day ask yourself - "Self - with an array of FAVORABLE BLACK PEOPLE TO ME in POWER over my institutions and on the record charts......am I any more content with my current standing? If not - what about MY OWN SYSTEM OF VALUES should I change?"
(Its actually depressing that this is the only 'nugget' that you got from my previous post. I like you better when you are posting pictures of beautiful women)
Y'all are missing DV's point. So trapped on materialistic tit for tat exchanges.
Clarence Thomas will never move people. Clarence Thomas will never touch their souls. Clarence Thomas will never be mourned by the entire world. MJ was touched by God. Nothing else explains why the ENTIRE WORLD was watching his memorial and crying over his death.
I sat in the Staples Center with thousands of people crying over a man they never knew personally, but who touched their souls.
If Clarence Thomas died tomorrow, no one would notice. Until you guys figure out that DV's references to "Black" are references to Godliness and the soul, you are going to keep bringing up silly azz examples like Clarence Thomas.
I hear you Mahndisa.
But don't get me wrong.
I don't hate Clarence Thomas. Hell, I'm probably more conservative than is he.
I just don't think that either he nor John G. Roberts, John Paul Stevens, Antonin Scalia, David Souter or Ruth Ginsberg or any of the members of this fake court are worth shit at all.
Our electoral process is a sham.
Our judicial branch is a sham.
Feedback wants us to consider Clarence's appointment to the Plantation Court as some kind of ... accomplishment.
Allow me to quot myself: "Live on all major TV Networks. Live updates in the NYTimes, Time & CNN. International coverage. Gatherings in capitols all around the globe. Sold Out Staple Center. $1,000 tickets. And Mike aint even there. How Black Is That? "
Mandisa, Mike obviously moved and touched people all around the world.
The only other men who have done it like Mike at this scope and scale have been Jesus, MLK and Bob Marley.
How Black Is That?
“Clarence Thomas will never move people.”
Wrong! Clarence Thomas has moved people—onto death row and into the electric chair; onto the unemployment rolls; out of institutions of higher learning; into illegal searches; into police brutality.
“Clarence Thomas will never touch their souls.”
Correct! He just makes sure their souls are unjustly and quickly separated from their physical being.
“MJ was touched by God. Nothing else explains why the ENTIRE WORLD was watching his memorial and crying over his death.”
Entertainment is the new opiate of the masses. There’s nothing godly about people being mesmerized by entertainment icons. It serves the imperial elite well.
“If Clarence Thomas died tomorrow, no one would notice.”
That would just show how effective white supremacy is. The throngs of Black Americans hoopin’ and hollerin’ about Jackson are just as unconscious to the effects of white supremacist administered psychological diprivan as Jackson was to the effects of the physical drug.
Their lives are more affected by Thomas’ votes in five to four SCOTUS decisions than they will ever be by Jackson’s personality or music, and for years to come.
Thomas is an "injustice" who in his latest dissent wanted to scrap the entire Voting Rights Act.
It would be far different if Jackson’s music moved these throngs into empowering action. As it is his music is nothing more than a quick fix to soothe the aches and pains of their material conditions while dulling their socio-political consciousness.
Michael Jackson and Clarence Thomas do however have one thing in common. They are two of the leading examples of racial self-hatred.
Anon
When you gonna get a handle homie?
Michael Jackson and Clarence Thomas do however have one thing in common. They are two of the leading examples of racial self-hatred.
Booya. Just goes to show how the greatest black men (as defined by black men) all aspire to be white. And maybe this aspiration for whiteness is actually what made them superior to other blacks. Kind of like reaching for a higher level.
Or maybe they are considered great by other black men because they aspired to be white.
Either way, they have done more to promote white supremacy than the KKK.
Hmm, what do 3 of those 4 right-wing radio personalities all have in common?
John Ziegler
Michael Alan Weiner "Savage"
Mark Levin
[quote]Clarence Thomas will never move people.[/quote]
It all depends upon if you seek MOVEMENT on the dance floor or if you seek to prepare your people for the "exodous mentality" and thus convince them that they are in fact EQUAL UNDER THE LAW, despite their willingness to HUNCH THEIR BACKS and put a neck brace on IF it means that the Progressive judge will buy into their inferiority.
If any of you can read Ruth Bader Ginsberg's assessment about the INFERIORITY OF BLACK PEOPLE and then walk away with your dignity held high then my might be as confused as Michael Jackson was about your race and where we came from. (No. I am talking about BEFORE slavery).
[quote] Clarence Thomas will never touch their souls.[/quote]
If you are looking toward Thomas, Jackson or Obama to TOUCH YOUR SOUL then you have a SPIRITUAL PROBLEM that goes deeper than anything that we can resolve on this blog.
[quote]Clarence Thomas will never be mourned by the entire world.[/quote]
Insurgent - You just promoted the notion that POPULARITY is indicative of some particular intrinsic value. IT IS NOT.
Where as it is certainly the case that "non-popularity" will tend to make you lonely. POPULARITY only means that a particular quantity of people bought what you were selling. Clearly some framework for VALUATION must be placed upon the good that was "sold".
[quote]MJ was touched by God. [/quote]
So unsubjective. That's what I like about you.
GOD indeed "touched Michael Jackson". He afforded him a little TOUCH UP PAINT to correct a little scratch in his car. Michael went overboard and REPAINTED the entire vechile that GOD gave him 'WHITE'.
He then narrowed his front bumper so it would be more aerodynamic. And changed the fabric on his "drop top".
GOD indeed works in mysterious ways.
Clarence Thomas will never touch their souls.
But, he sure had no problem touching some peoples' bodies, like Jackson may have too!
DV - I have to admit - you attract all types.
Anon - do you mind if we critically inspect your comments?
[quote]Thomas has moved people—onto death row and into the electric chair;[/quote]
CLARENCE THOMAS did this?
1) The KILLER served a DEATH PENALTY to some human being FIRST
2) This KILLER, unlike his victim was treated to a PROCESS by which evidence was heard in the context of structured legal proceedings and then a judgment rendered. From there several sets of eyes and opinions graced the findings. By the time it hit Clarence Thomas' desk there was also 8 other eyes and ears in the same wing of the office building that he sits to potentially keep Thomas in check.
WHO held the KILLER in check Anon?
[quote]onto the unemployment rolls; out of institutions of higher
learning;[/quote]
Anon - are you a "MINORITY INFERIORIST"? It seems that you believe that the ONLY way a racial minority can succeed is if a program that Brother Justice Thomas happens to believe INFERIORIZES Black people (and YES he was a beneficiary of this program) is in place.
Let me ask you though Anon - if we took two populations of Black people - which would be larger:
1) The population of Blacks who used AA to get into an ELITE WHITE SCHOOL
2) The population of Black 9th graders who COULD HAVE BEEN MOLDED INTO college material were it not for their FAILING environment (schools, community, household) that did not provide the support that they needed to express their full potential? You keep VOTING FOR the people who run these institutions so clearly your valuations are misaligned.
[quote]into illegal searches; into police brutality.
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Anon - in the year 2009 - Black people have far more police who do ILLEGAL SEARCHES that have a Police Commanders who are IDEOLOGICALLY FAVORABLE to them, and possibly their same race. AND the police commander is likely to have a BOSS (the Mayor) who was favorable enough for you to vote for him.
Why is it that you show so much scorn to Brother Justice Thomas yet seem to allow all that the "Local Progressives" do that fails you go past?
Now what what that which the Atlanta Police Department was trying to do under Shriley Franklins watch again? They already shot a 92 year old Black Great-Grandmother dead. And they are still carrying on. See here:
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/stories/2009/07/08/citizen_review_files.html
[quote]Either way, they have done more to promote white supremacy than the KKK.
[/quote]
Anon:
I know that you are a likely active poster on the BET Message boards because this is about the level of your "deepness".
Again I ask you to READ the "Ricci" ruling by both Clarence Thomas and the former ACLU lawyer Ruth Bader Ginsberg and then you HOLLA BACK AT ME as to which one is more WHITE SUPREMACIST and which seeks to tell Black people that WE ARE EQUAL UNDER THE LAW NOW!!!!
Art can be a stunningly effective tool of change.
Narrow minded people think it can only happen through law or war.
But beauty and love can change the world too.
It just scares some people to recognize that.
I agree with Thomas's decision in the Ricci case, and disagree with Ginsberg.
Although I don't think Thomas was white supremacist there, simply being fair. Ginsberg was simply being anti-white. She's a female Jewish liberal, that's her job.
Anyhow, would you want your son to grow up like Michael Jackson? How do you explain to a young black kid that Michael was actually black? And why he tried to change his appearance to white? And what message does that send to a young black kid about looking black vs white?
How many young kids now hate looking black, or dating black women, because of Michael?
$$$harpton is just being politically correct and he’s probably trying to position himself ahead of Jesse Jackson in order to capitalize on being the leading Black defender of Michael Jackson.
Jacko gave up a long time ago. He gave up on being Black, and when he was rejected and vilified by elements of the white power elite he gave up on life. That’s what drug addiction means—giving up.
What message does Michael Jackson ultimately send to Black America? When the going gets tough escape reality and slowly kill yourself.
What message?
That all the fotune and fame arent' worth shit if one doesn't actually feel the love of one's family and friends.
DV, just delete Byrd's post's. It's like trying to debate on youtube. No point. Since we all aspire to be like white ppl... Reach your "white Zenith" and sensor this bitch byrd! DV is more conservative than Clarence T... because if It was me I'd do like the white boy (since we aspire to be like "powerful" white ppl.. certainly not average white ppl.) and censor this uppity albino boi!
Byrd you have single handedly proved white supremacy as a myth, because if it was real, you'd be trying to disprove it!!! Like Jews disproving "the protocals of Zion... BEFORE YOU I believed in white supremacy but now (thanks to you) Im positive that it doesn't exist. The more you try to prove it's existence the more Im convinced of it's non existence. Thank you
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