Thursday, July 23, 2009

DV NEW RULE

If you call yourself "Skip",
If you marry a woman who looks like Edith Bunker,
If your claim to fame is to have been allowed to work at Harvard,
If you are known as a preeminent black scholar and writer but no black people can quote you,
If you identify yourself as "Half-white",
If you identify your children as "Half-white",
If you are proud of the fact you live in a "white" neighborhood,
If when you move into a new house you report to the local precinct to introduce yourself to the police ...
The first time a police officer upsets you - You Cannot Yell "It's Because I'm A Black Man In America!"

No. It is because you are a Plantation Negro in a white neighborhood.

Marry a sista, move into a nice black neighborhood and teach at Howard muhfuggah. Or get a pistol and handle the shit like a man.

29 comments:

Constructive Feedback said...

Now, now Calvin Lockhart!!
Why these words?

Does a Black man lose his "color credibility" because of where he lives and who he marries?

You showed us, via your view of MJ that a man can do ALL OF THIS and....scrape the melanin out of his skin and YOU will still afford him this coverage.

Where is your consistency, Blak?

Denmark Vesey said...

Pump your brakes Ward Connerly.

You miss the point yet again.

Gates identifies himself as "Half-White".

Made an entire movie about the shit.

Never heard MJ identify himself as anything other than black.

Michael never said he was the target of scornful media, the victim of blackmail and falsely charged by the police with molestation, "BECAUSE HE WAS A BLACK MAN IN AMERICA".

Michael acknowledged he was targeted because of who he was as an individual.

He wasn't falsely accused of molestation because he was black. He was falsely accused of molestation because he had $20 Million.

Gates is making a bitch move by implying his actions had nothing to do with what happened and that it was strictly a function of his skin color.

Ya'll Plantation Negros still think "blackness" is a game of mindless group identity victim politics.

When bad shit happens "Itz Cuz Iz Bwak!".

When good shit happens. It's because of your conservative nature and discipline, unlike "them street niggas who need to stop committing crimes and pull their pants up."

When Michael Jackson's skin was the color mayonnaise, he was still blacker than you and "Skip" put together.

Gates should have said: "It's because I'm A Half White Man in America."

Big Man said...

You asking for the wrong thing CF.

Althought MJ never did make the leap to calling himself white or half white.

Gates got problems, but DV is ignoring the obvious to make his own points. I can't get with that.

You know it's about race, and it's about police authority. But, keep doing you.

Conservative Black Woman said...

LOL.....DV, I love, love, love you for saying this. So true!

Denmark Vesey said...

Big Man, stop declaring you understand what DV is saying ... but.

I don't "know" it's about race, in the least bit.

The same cop who arrested Gates, gave CPR to Reggie Lewis when he dropped dead of a heart attack.

Was he "a racist" then?

Shiiiiit. A white boy better not drop dead around me expecting me to give him CPR. Am I a racist?

The reality is you could have put 1,000 black men in Gates position at that same house with that same cop and 990 of them wouldn't have been locked up in their own house.

Ergo. Getting arrested "because" he was black is as Plantation Negro a statement as is getting a Flu shot.

Denmark Vesey said...

Conservative Black Woman!

Where you been sista?

Big Man said...

DV

Your logic is mad faulty.

So because the white cop gave CPR to a black cat, he can't racially profile other black folks.

So, if white doctors save black Africans afflicted with malaria, they can't in turn give them AIDS with your much hyped "monkey juice virus."

How does one good deed prove anything in this case? White slave master regularly sent their mixed breed kids away to get an education. But, they still raped their mommas. So, racist or not racist?

Make up your mind homie.

You have decided that this ain't about race because it doesn't fit with Denmark Vesey meme on the way America operates. I disagree with you. That's cool, it ain't a biggie to me.

But, from where I'm sitting you are making some piss poor arguments to support your point of view, and you're actually backtracking on standards you've established on other topics.

Saying that his white cop couldn't be a racist or racially profile because he gave Reggie Lewis CPR is like saying President Bush couldn't be out to steal oil from Arabs because he was cool with cats in Saudi Arabi. The two things don't fit together.

Denmark Vesey said...

I think you missed it again Big Man.

To arrest a man ...

In his own home ...

Completely without provocation ...

Requires a kind of racism that would compel a white cop to act in a manner not in his own interest.

Would a man so racist, who hates black people so viscerally that he would flush his career down the toilet by arresting a man without cause - drop to his knees and place his lips on the open mouth of a dying black man he didn't even know?

Do you see the conflict there Big Man?

I know I know ... race is the easy answer.

But to suggest ... "Skip", was arrested BECAUSE he was black defies logic. It's kind of silly actually.

Fuck it. It's classic Plantation Negro.

Conservative Black Woman said...

DV~I've been around. Had to stop spending so much time online (Hubby was getting pissed). I reposted this on my blog:

http://conservativeblkwoman.blogspot.com/2009/07/self-described-blackest-man-on-internet.html

Michael Fisher said...

DV...

"When Michael Jackson's skin was the color mayonnaise, he was still blacker than you and 'Skip' put together.

Gates should have said: 'It's because I'm A Half White Man in America.'"


...says the man whose ideal of a black woman is a super-light skinned "half-white" stick figure.

CNu said...

Permanently and completely beyond the grasp of the cognitively impaired who suffer with plantation kneegrow-logical reality distortion syndrome.

Denmark Vesey is truth!

Big Man said...

DV

You gonna keep twisting the facts, are argue based on what actually happened?

Point to the place in the account of Gates or the police officer where there was "no provocation."

I'll wait.

Cause, from here I'm sitting the provocation occurred when Gates refused to comply with officers request to step outside of his house initially. Now, if you believe Gates, they went back into the home calmly and got his information. If you believe the officer, Gates began accusing him of being a racist. They agree that Gates demanded the officers badge number and name, they disgree on whether the officer complied. They agree that Gates continued to be angry and make allegtions of racist behavior.

So, we have a situation where an officer made a request based on his authoriy as an officer and then had a black man tell him to step off.

I guess in the DV world, free from the constraints of race, white folks don't react differently to challenges to their authority depending on the race of the person doing the challenging. So, that video you posted a while back of the black EMT getting roughed up, while his white partner got let go had nothing to do with race either.

It ain't a cut and dry issue with easy answers, like I said in my first response. This whole thing was about the way police officers abuse their power, and how those abuses come easier to officers when they are dealing with certain minorities.

It's not just about race and it's not just about authority. It's about both. But, I'm going to let it go. I've said what I had to say.

Big Man said...

I did want to add one thing.

I find it amazing that race can be a factor in the decisions made by folks who advocate for abortions, you know ythe whole black genocide, racist Planned Parenthood argument you make, but race isn't an issue when it comes to the actions of the police, particularly in this incident.

Seems strange.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Gates identifies himself as "Half-White".
......
Never heard MJ identify himself as anything other than black.[/quote]

So Calvin: If he DID NOT "identify himself as such" yet he is BIRACIAL from a parentage perspective - please detail the DIFFERENCE?

Michael Jackson ASSUMED THE IDENTITY OF A WHITE MAN - per his genetic choices in his KIDS!!!! (And his 2 successive wives and his skin and cosmetic surgery choices). NONE OF THIS caused you to reject him as a "Black Man". This proves your selectivity and KCNulan's will to follow along with anything just like a puppy does.

[quote]
Michael never said he was the target of scornful media, the victim of blackmail and falsely charged by the police with molestation, "BECAUSE HE WAS A BLACK MAN IN AMERICA". Michael acknowledged he was targeted because of who he was as an individual.[/quote]

Please afford me time to find the footage when MICHAEL WAS A MUSLIM FOR A MINUTE. During this time HE DID make the case that RACISM was the cause of his problems to some extent. Stay tuned.

I am just struggling to understand why a MUSLIM was not buried immediately upon his death?

[quote]
Gates is making a bitch move by implying his actions had nothing to do with what happened and that it was strictly a function of his skin color.

Ya'll Plantation Negros still think "blackness" is a game of mindless group identity victim politics.

When bad shit happens "Itz Cuz Iz Bwak!".

When good shit happens. It's because of your conservative nature and discipline, unlike "them street niggas who need to stop committing crimes and pull their pants up."[/quote]

Find me any prevailing CONSERVATIVE bias in his "the Root.com" property and I will forever stop posting here and on the KCNulan site. (even though my old IP address has been blocked by KCNulan).

[quote]
When Michael Jackson's skin was the color mayonnaise, he was still blacker than you and "Skip" put together.

Gates should have said: "It's because I'm A Half White Man in America."[/quote]

Calvin:

One day you will be able to commit to writing what YOUR DEFINITION of "Blackness" is.

I guess for now I have to accept that with you - it is written in chalk and then changed each night - just as the characters in "The Animal Farm" did to keep their sheep in line according to the living constitution.

Let me ask you a question though. Since Skip Gates is a "sold out Black man".....just like me......WHY IS IT that the CIVIL RIGHTS ESTABLISHMENT is aligning their battleships in support of HIM rather than doing him as they do with Clarence Thomas?

taipan55 said...

Nothing gets my dander up more than "causeimblack-ism"! This is coming from someone who has actually been racially profiled before. Thanks DV for saying what needed to be said!!!

Michael Fisher said...

DV...

"Marry a sista, move into a nice black neighborhood and teach at Howard muhfuggah."

Why should he do that, DV? Because he is a black man in America?

Undercover Black Man said...

Why should he do that, DV? Because he is a black man in America?

Zing!

Denmark Vesey said...

"Point to the place in the account of Gates or the police officer where there was "no provocation."

I'll wait." Big Man

1) Gates says he was arrested BECAUSE he was black and you seem to support that contention.

2) To insist the cop made an arrest simply BECAUSE Gate's was black implies there was NO PROVOCATION other than his blackness.

Are you still with me Big Man?

3) Now would an individual cop, that is SO RACIST that he jeopardizes his job and arrests cooperating black men on sight, in their own homes solely BECAUSE they are black - drop to his knees and perform mouth to mouth on a black man he did not know?

Now Big Man, you can play Intro To Logic games of argumentation and semantics if you want, but Come On Bra.

Gates got a little extra with the cops. Didn't work out for him and he went to the "Cuz I'm Black" routine a little too early.

Painting himself into a corner.

KonWomyn said...

'Sup DV
I see a racial profiling going on here; you're setting the standards of Blackness as teaching at Howard and marrying a Black woman. By doing that you're discrediting all the work that Skip Gates has done as a scholar in Black Studies. He's in the forefront of discussing race in 21st Century America, he set up a foundation where people can trace back their DNA roots to Africa, he was one of the important scholar post-Civil Rights movement and here you wanna claim he aint Black. Brutha please, expand your definition coz Skip Gates done a whole lot to advance young Black people in America today.

The cop was stupid, not racist - that he saved Reggie Lewis does not mean he can't act like a pig in another situation. Such is the chameleon nature of the po-po. Straight up robots who don't think, they jst follow order. That's why he proceeded to arrest an old man who'd identified himself and that's why he failed to use his better judgement in the situation and that's why BO called him stupid.

For you to even think of MJ as a post-racial construct - you owe that to Skip Gates and critical thinkers like him. He's not just waving around the "Its coz I'm Black" card, its with reason - imagine you're at Harvard knowing this is a White institution and racial profiling is an issue on the campus - what wld you do? A friend of mine at Harvard has told me Gates himself has participated in racial profiling workshop at Harvard so clearly this profiling is an established problem.

If you're going to say the Black defence does not operate for pple who are middle class then in an extreme sense, you my brother are being; seperatist, selective and creating an apartheid ideology of your own among Black people. How you know what Skip endures as a top academic?

I'm in the field and I'm still starting out and I already feel how tough it is. Despite that its 2009, there are still so many barriers in African Studies for Black women and I can imagine what he's been through in the last 40 years. Even though he shoulda kept quiet in this instance, you also gotta question why the po-po had to arrest a man who'd identified himself and was in no way a threat.

peace

Denmark Vesey said...

"...says the man whose ideal of a black woman is a super-light skinned "half-white" stick figure." MF

Come on Mike. You tryin' too hard.

Which is telling. Leye Kebede is an African woman.

What's blacker than the dopest Ethiopian?

LOL. Ya'll Plantation Negros are all messed up in the head when it comes to race. The Plantation really did a number on you.

Denmark Vesey said...

What's happen' Taipan55?

"causeimblack-ism"!

Word of the day.

Denmark Vesey said...

Marry a sista, move into a nice black neighborhood and teach at Howard muhfuggah.



"Why should he do that, DV? Because he is a black man in America?" MF


No.

Because ... he ... can.

CNu said...

Dayyum DV,

you done stirred up a swarm of buzzing biting critters.

somebody ought to make some Deep Plantation brand Off - just to keep all these angry bitin muhphuggahs at bay.....,

bottomline, the cop did not have to arrest skipper, however, he was very well within the powers accorded him by law to do so and for the reasons he stipulated, "disorderly and tumultuous conduct".

the professor experienced a "teaching moment", one experienced by millions of Americans annually, oh well....,

here's the interesting thing, skip's gonna lose this one in both the arena of public opinion, and as a matter of law there in Cambridge.

he needs to stop selling woof tickets because he's gonna have to back down.

by his overreaction, and increasingly shrill egoic investment in having his way, skip is single-handedly setting back the hard won honorary whiteness of "chosen" plantation kneegrowdom by decades.

where oh where is Sgt Vernon Waters when you need him most?!?!?!?!

Michael Fisher said...
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IWonderAsIWander said...

The bottom line is that Gates got outta pocket and got pinched. Then he played the race card when all he had to do was act with some dignity and he could have avoided the whole thing.

Anonymous said...

Gates is making a bitch move by implying his actions had nothing to do with what happened and that it was strictly a function of his skin color.

Plato, your Hero is making a bitch move by backtracking faster than Peggy Lewellyn can burn up a quarter mile on her NHRA pro stock motorbike.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp=32132350&#32132350

Denmark Vesey is truth!

Denmark Vesey is falsehood wrapped in 360 degrees of fallacy.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]"Marry a sista, move into a nice black neighborhood and teach at Howard muhfuggah."[/quote]

Michael Fisher:

Had Gates been teaching at Morehouse or Clark Atlanta and living near by in a house on "Joseph E Lowery Blvd" or "Ralph David Abernathy Drive" he would have been in a very different situation.

Instead of a neighbor calling the cops on HIM as he tried to get into his house legitimately after a trip out of the country.....HE would have been calling the cops because he had suffered from a Pirate attack where someone had actually broken into his house and stolen his sh*&.

Then he would have been pissed because the cops tried to take a police report over the phone instead of coming to his house.

And then John Lewis would get reelected yet again in 2010 despite presiding over the "Most Deadly Block in the ATL" - the intersection of "Rev Joseph E Lowery" and " Rev Joseph P Boone". In both cases these streets were renamed, yanking down the names of the former Confederate Generals that adorned them previously. After all "How can we expect peace in the community when the people look up and see the names of their OPPRESSORS being honored on the street signs?"

I am not sure what the next brilliant anti-crime strategy will be , now that all of the signage has been changed. They might have to actually start dealing directly with the thugs.

GDAWG said...

DAYYUUUMMMMM!!!

Big Man said...

DV

Early on I explained why Gates was arrested. Ain't no need to assume what I seem to support.

Gates was arrested because he defied the cops and because he was black while doing it.

Either action is often enough to get you arrested in America, he happened to do both.