Thursday, July 23, 2009

The Global System of Black Supremacy

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Jones was on disturbing tha peace for a sec then got out of the deal cuz they were sittin on his project. I assume he couldn't handle being held back to release Willy Northpole.

Hamilton is new school cool. Not sure if I'm feeling him yet.

Jones is that dude for real. not sure if his skill will transfer to album format & diverse content vs mixtapes, song writing vs. rhyme writing and ultimately record sales. He might just want to ghost write for the guy the (m)asses will claim to be the best out.

Dre & Will Smith would break bread for a rhyme or two if they haven't already.

KP

Submariner said...

Yooooooo. I don't know. My natural affinity is for Jones (sort of reminds me of a scintillating version of Guru) but Hamilton is nice in a downscale Kanye kind of fashion-almost fathomless potential artistically, combined with true grit and smarts. (In basketball analogy I would equate them with Allen Iverson, little guys playing a big man's game.)The only thing is will Hamilton settle and peak too soon. The last rapper I felt that way about was this brother named Jay (Z that is) that lived in my man Pep's building in Brooklyn.

The Doc said...

Hamilton's got mad potential. He's another one of those cats i'm sitting back watching. His stuff is so left-center sometimes, though. I like the video game references he drops in his stuff. Like that song "get over here" where he's trying to get a girl, and using Scorpion's "Get over here!" sound effect in the background.

His stuff's real futuristic. And he can rap. He's got a chance to get on, he needs a really hot single that the masses can grab on to. Either that, or somebody to co-sign him.

The Doc said...

Like this. Genius.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz7X2Ckd80o
It's called "Windows Media Player". Guess why.

Denmark Vesey said...

KP. Sub. Doc. What up.

KP. As always. On point.

Sub. I know exactly what you talkin' 'bout. Jones is just more my cup of tea. Never could get into that nice guy Hip Hop.

Jones blew homie out the water. Said he looked like a "new AKA". And he changed the entire energy when he so deftly pointed out "gangsters don't wear cowry shells" and "leather wrist bands".

Which suggests a tenet of the Denmark Vesey Hip Hop Treatise. The gangster meme is here to stay in hip hop. Anything less invites immediate dismissal as inauthentic. To not be "gangster" suggests it's anti-thesis which is to be too invested in the Plantation.

Denmark Vesey said...

The Doc.

I peeped that little piece man.

I don't know homie.

I mean it's cute. And clever. I smiled a couple of times.

But the shit aint moving nobody.

I mean, could you really put that on repeat?

Which is my measure of a cut.

I mean why listen to that when you can experience this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OybDTpXfHrY

Anonymous said...

I need to get your email DV. I peeped this battle a few months back and it stuck in my mind so it was refreshing to see you post it. Major dap.

Didn't peep the link you posted yet but if you ever see what he did to Jin who was on ruff ryders for a sec (i think he drops his name in this battle with Hamilton actually) you'd crown him IMMEDIATELY!

Start at 5min point. Peep part 2 of 2 as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgUg_17XWjo

KP

Submariner said...

The gangster meme is here to stay in hip hop.

I agree but it's like fluoride in drinking water; it was a calculated decision designed to counter an Afrocentric, black nationalist inspired genre.

PENIEL JOSEPH: Very quickly, one thing that did occur, when you think about black nationalism and this brother’s question, is that you know, Public Enemy, Tribe Called Quest, late eighties, sometimes people call it Golden Age of Hip-Hop. When the medium was coming into its own, black nationalism for a time before gangster rap dominated, right, and it was sending out those messages, and you could have “Fight the Power,” and you could have “Burn, Hollywood, Burn,” and so certainly I do think that there was a specific reason why gangster rap becomes a mode of transmission for hip-hop. Not only is it popular and people are listening to it but I think people start to see the tremendous force and power for social change potentially that black nationalist–inflected hip-hop music could have and it’s certainly been marginalized over the last twenty years, so you have people like Dead Prez, or even a Mos Def, or a Talib Kweli, who you could say are nationalists, but I think you’re right, there is a nationalist ethic to people whether it’s Jay-Z or whoever wants to—you know, FUBU, For Us By Us. That’s Marcus Garvey, Booker T. Washington, and aspects of Du Bois. For Us, By Us, like, you know, we’re not just talking about it, but we’re going to build it and own it.

Denmark Vesey said...

"I agree but it's like fluoride in drinking water; it was a calculated decision designed to counter an Afrocentric, black nationalist inspired genre." Sub


Ooooohhhhhh. Nicely done.

What up K?!

""AiNT iT 2 BiLLi0N PE0PLE iN CHiNA? Y0U CANT EVEN G0 PLATNiUM 0VER THERE!"

R0FL

DenmarkVesey1822@hotmail.com

I'm supposed to send you something too. It's on the way.

Anonymous said...

No doubt DV. Jones is simply the truth.

I see you Sub. Great post.

KP

lawegohard said...

The battle is decided by who got the Nigga's rollin' with him and the Bitches wanting to _________.

Jones all day!

SeriusJoke said...

Problem is,
Battle rappers can never go legit.
Once they get in the studio,
Like Eminem says, they lose it.
Throw a million punchlines...
Yet not make a single hit.