In America today, almost as many African-American children are aborted as are born.A black baby is three times more likely to be murdered in the womb than a white baby.
Since 1973, abortion has reduced the black population by over 25 percent.
Twice as many African-Americans have died from abortion than have died from AIDS, accidents, violent crimes, cancer, and heart disease combined.
Every three days, more African-Americans are killed by abortion than have been killed by the Ku Klux Klan in its entire history.Planned Parenthood operates the nation's largest chain of abortion clinics and
almost 80 percent of its facilities are located in minority neighborhoods.
Big Man said...
Wouldn't the better question be"Conservatives vs. Liberals?
I mean, if you want to compare to political groups, that's the fair comparision.
If you're going to compare somebody to the KKK, pick a domestic terrorist organization of similar stature.
That's if you want to have a true discussion.
Denmark Vesey said ...
I feel you big Man.
Black people have been conditioned to look at Liberals as our "saviors" from Conservatives who wish to do us harm. After 50 years of movie culture and indoctrination disguised as "education" too many black people think the enemy of our enemy must be our friend.
Liberals have colonized the minds of Plantation Negros.
Even today as ultra-secular liberal eugencists colonize the immune systems of Africa's future generations, so-called African-Americans in this country heel themselves at the foot of master like loyal dogs quietly witnessing the stage set for genocide, oblivious to their own enslavement.
You call the KKK a domestic terrorist organization. I suggest the terrorism displayed by the KKK, pales in comparison to the terrorism so-called liberals unleashed upon Black people over the past 60 years.
They put a Civil Rights cherry on top of a bowl of self-destructive shit. Plantation Negros have been eating at the troth like pigs ever since. Four generations of post- Civil Rights Negros were raised on a diet of secular extremism that has robbed them of their culture, their history and their minds.
Our so-called Best & Brightest have been taught that the systematic destruction of 1.5 million black children each year is not only a good thing ... but their right! That's like Jews in Nazi Germany defending the right of other Jews to be herded into gas chambers.
Yes my brother Big Man, had the KKK lynched 1,000 times more black men than they did, they wouldn't have hurt us more than the secular terrorists and second wave feminists who carefully crafted a social template that turned self-reliant black people into increasingly secular, GMO eating, government dependent politically impotent African-American conformists addicted to corporate pharmaceuticals doomed to dysfunctional families.
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Wouldn't the better question be"
Conservatives vs. Liberals?
I mean, if you want to compare to political groups, that's the fair comparision.
If you're going to compare somebody to the KKK, pick a domestic terrorist organization of similar stature.
That's if you want to have a true discussion.
Brother Denmark Vesey:
A "threat" is only a "threat" if it is RECOGNIZED as a "Threat".
Thus there is a CONSCIOUSNESS problem.
When you have a popular Black Progressive preacher - (who though married, impregnated a teenaged member of his church) - Rev Jamal Bryant of Baltimore - stand in the pulpit last year and give a sermon that was meant to be an attack speech upon the evil, racist Republicans who threatened his hopes for a Black President in which HE, standing in "Jesus's Podium" and said:
(Paraphrased from memory)
"These dark forces on the right seek to TAKE A WOMAN'S CHOICE of what she wants to do with her body away from her......
and no one in the church bats an eyelash ......NOR asks this corrupt individual for the BIBLICAL VERSE from which he obtained his Pro-Abortion calling from.........
Brother Vesey - THIS is not a "threat" from the outside.......THIS is LACK OF CONSCIOUSNESS.
The institutions that preside over them are seeking to support THE WILL OF MAN than they have any particular inclination to FOLLOW THE SPIRIT AND TRUTH OF THE TESTAMENT from which the label that they call themselves is derived.
If they DID NOT label themselves "Christians" than this "make it up as we go along" theory - on the LEFT AND RIGHT - would sit better with their actions.
lil' man,
Extreme liberals are domestic terrorists by definition. Anyone that attempts to tear down ALL traditions that exist within in a society is trying to destroy a nation.
Now, the justification for such actions are dependent upon the righteousness of the traditions that the radical liberals are attempting to usurp.
In your case, as one who adopts "liberal" Christianity, it is a question of which traditions you are seeking to destroy and which ones will you protect in the public sphere?
And as is with all who adopt the corrupting agent of liberalism, it isn't clear that you will protect ANY Christian traditions in the public sphere.
Meaning, to the outside world you are really just a liberal with "Christian" pretense.
Yet, you aren't radical enough to destroy these traditions either. But for how long will this stand as your liberalism demands more and more allegiance from you and your "Christianity" slinkers farther and farther away from the public sphere?
Thordaddy:
All of those blogs that you have - WHERE ARE YOUR POSTS man?
(Or am I missing something? Not trying to 'hate', just asking.)
Josh Farst, have you met Ronald Barr yet? (ronald's like an even stupider Jesse Lee Peterson if you can imagine that)
Ronald, have you met Josh Farst? (josh is like an even more reptilian Hal Turner if you can imagine that)
Bofe'a'y'all nutty as phuk.
A pair of 6+ plus blog having buffoons with ambitions to rule the world but frankly incapable of ruling your own toilet seats.
I recommend the two of you get a room and a high colonic setup and go to work on one another for your own edification and for the amusement of the rapt masses....,
(ok, for the amusement of the one or two folks who'll bother to look in on your type'a multi-blog freak show.)
When methods of fertility control have been available and accessible, African-American women have advocated for and used these strategies even more frequently than their white counterparts.(1)
For example, when family planning was first institutionalized in Louisiana in 1965, Black women were six times more likely than white women to sign up for contraception.(2)
But when contraceptives were unavailable and abortion was illegal, septic abortions were a primary killer of African-American women. One study estimated that 80 percent of deaths caused by illegal abortions in New York in the 1960s involved Black and Puerto Rican women.(3)
In Georgia between 1965 and 1967 the Black maternal death rate due to illegal abortion was fourteen times that of white women.(4)
1. Martha C. Ward, Poor Women, Powerful Men: America’s Great Experiment in Family Planning (Boulder: Westview Press, 1986), 18.
2. Ibid., 55.
3. Robert Stapes, The Black Women in America (Chicago: Nelson Hall, 1974), 146.
4. Melanie Tervalon,” Black Women’s Reproductive Rights,” in Women’s Health: Readings on Social, Economic and Political Issues, ed. Nancy Worcester and Marianne H. Whatley (Dubuque, Iowa: Kendall/Hunt, 1988), 136.
In the early 1920s the Black women’s club movement joined forces with early proponents of birth control and called for the placement of family-planning clinics in Black neighborhoods while criticizing eugenics or population control forces. Black women in the 1920s and 1930s wanted individual control over their fertility, while at the same time they resisted government and privately funded anti-natalist population control campaigns.
Rosalind Pollack Petchesky, Abortion and Woman’s Choice: The State, Sexuality, and Reproductive Freedom (Boston: Northeastern University Press, rev. ed., 1990), 130.
African-American women saw themselves not as breeders or matriarchs but as builders and nurturers of a race, a nation. Sojourner Truth’s statement, “I feel as if the power of a nation is within me!”(1) affirmed the role of African-American women as “seminal forces of the endurance and creativity needed by future generations of Blacks not merely to survive, but to thrive, produce, and progress.”(2)
In this spirit, the Black women’s club movement supported the establishment of family-planning clinics in Black communities. In 1918 the Women’s Political Association of Harlem became the first Black organization to schedule lectures on birth control. They were soon joined by dozens of other clubwomen seeking information about birth control in their communities. The National Urban League requested that the Birth Control Federation of America (the forerunner to Planned Parenthood) open a clinic in the Columbus Hill section of the Bronx in 1925. Several ministers held discussions about birth control at their churches, and in 1932 the Reverend Adam Clayton Powell of the Abyssinian Baptist Church spoke at public meetings in support of family planning.(3)
African-American organizations, including the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), the National Urban League, and leading Black newspapers like the San Francisco Spokesman (1932) and the Pittsburgh Courier (1936) promoted family planning. The Black press espoused this strategy as a means for uplifting the race, perhaps partially in response to the economic ravages of the Depression. The African-American newspapers of the period also reported the morality rate of women who had septic abortions and championed the causes of Black doctors who were arrested for performing illegal abortions.(4)
1. Roseann P. Bell, Bettye J. Parker, and Beverly Guy-Sheftall, eds., Sturdy Black Bridges: Visions of Black Women in Literature (New York: Anchor, 1979), 117.
2. Ibid.
3. Jessie M. Rodrique, “The Black Community and the Birth Control Movement,” in Unequal Sisters: A Multicultural Reader in U.S. Women’s History, ed. Ellen Carol Dubois and Vicki L. Ruiz (New York: Routledge, 1990), 338.
4. Ibid. 335
Great series of posts.
Adding to that, let's be real...fewer kids in a family means resources are less thinly spread. Which increases money and attention spent on each child. Which increases their chances of success.
I don't need six kids to feed the chickens and plow the field. I need two or three high achievers that I can afford to send to private schools, spend quality time with and blow daddy's successes out the water.
DV said
Yes my brother Big Man, had the KKK lynched 1,000 times more black men than they did, they wouldn't have hurt us more than the secular terrorists and second wave feminists who carefully crafted a social template that turned self-reliant black people into increasingly secular, GMO eating, government dependent politically impotent African-American conformists addicted to corporate pharmaceuticals doomed to dysfunctional families.
I respect and understand your point here. I understand that's what you try to do when you spark these discussions.
I'm saying that they way you set up the argument, compared two groups that are not on the same plane.
Comparing the KKK to the entire American system of capitalism, materialism, humanism, relativism, and the like is silly. The people who believe that the KKK is at the root of black people's problems today are not people you really want to have a discussion with anyway.
Matter of fact, I don't know many black people who think that way at all.
The KKK was a terrorist group that helped instill fear in black folks to protect the status quo in this country. The damage that group did went far beyond the lives they ended.
You of all people know that one of the easiest ways to train someone is through fear. The Klan was the overseer that helped train black folks in the Plantation thinking you seem to abhor. Now, we disagree at times on what exactly is Plantation thinking, but we don't disagree on the fact that there are people invested in creating an uneducated, populace composed of individuals focused on unimportant things. We agree that far too many black people don't think enough about the motives behind the things they consider normal. This is true for all folks, but black folks have to be particularly wary because we've been targeted for so long...
Anyway, black folks embrace liberals because the alternative appears to be embracing conservatives. And Lord knows those folks aren't going to help us out. They support the same companies, they support the same paradigm, only they do it from the position that black folks are an inferior species that can't seem to embrace that fact. That's why black folks flock to liberals. We've been trained to think of them as the alternative to conservatives.
Now, if you want to change that training it makes sense to explain that it's not about liberals or conservatives, it's about who is looking out for your best interest and who is not.
Doesn't matter what their political views are, all that matter is how the contribute to making your life truly better, which should mean making you a better person in the eyes of God.
Thor and Constructive
Y'all were made for each other.
[quote]A pair of 6+ plus blog having buffoons with ambitions to rule the world but frankly incapable of ruling your own toilet seats.[/quote]
KCnulan:
Why do YOU worry about what I am "able to RULE" when several months ago you were asking ME for advice on how to get an apartment complex full of Negroes in Kansas City how to live togehter as a COMMUNITY rather than as scavegers? THOSE PEOPLE who appear to be less of a threat to you than I.....because they don't CHALLEGE YOU but instead are impressed by your apparent "care" for them and their situation and your education. It is clear that you desire to be a "helper" and a service provider to them rather than a TRANSFORMATIVE figure that fully utlizies their RATIONAL SKILLS and convinces them that all that they have ever needed is inside of them.....as long as they are committed to sound principles to pattern themselves after?
[quote]I recommend the two of you get a room and a high colonic setup and go to work on one another for your own edification and for the amusement of the rapt masses....,[/quote]
There is not a single doubt in my mind that YOU would prefer this sort of arangement for me and other Black males as a viable means of containing the "population problem". Thordaddy and I get to exercise our unrestrainable sexual urges that you believe Black makes have. Injecting cells meant to transmit genetic material to the female does not work in the orifice that is functionally the end of the human digestive sytem. Thus there is no risk that we will PRODUCE "masses of cells that replicate into HUMAN BEINGS" and thus run the risk of needing an abortion operation so that these cluster of cells can be disconnected from their NUTRITION SOURCE in side of the cluster of cells known as a FEMALE and her WOMB. Problem solved.
We evolved with a large quantity of nerve endings in our anal area just for the purpose that you prescribe.
BRILLIANT Mr. Nulan.
You are simply brilliant!!!
See how easy it is to redefine the human "norm" as a means of solving a problem or expressing RIGHTS.....when you believe that we are but millions of years of "evolutionary accidents"?
[quote]When methods of fertility control have been available and accessible, African-American women have advocated for and used these strategies even more frequently than their white counterparts.([/quote]
Is there a JUSTIFICATION somewhere in this paragraph?
Do you notice that while "Blacks have been set up to DESTROY OURSELVES" via the scheming by "Da Man" in every other scenario your detail to us.....in this case it was THEIR choice!!
[quote]septic abortions were a primary killer of African-American women[/quote]
Does anyone see a pattern with KCnulan?
Just as with ILLEGAL DRUGS - the people DEMANDING THEM is just cause to make it LEGAL.
It is the SYSTEM that arrests them and thus we must STOP THE SYSTEM from arresting them.
Since "At Home Abortions" proved to be so deadly - KCnulan demands that only a medical professional do them. To ask the male and female individuals to tailor their behavior so they either DON'T PRODUCE AN UNWANTED CHILD or......position themselves so that this UNWANTED MASS OF CELLS is transformed into THE NEXT GENERATION OF OUR PEOPLE because it is allowed to grow - UNMOLESTED by vacuum action seeking to tear it away from its nutrition source - is too much to ask for KCnulan.
[quote]In Georgia between 1965 and 1967 the Black maternal death rate due to illegal abortion was fourteen times that of white women.(4)[/quote]
So help me to understand your argument.....
YOU are seeking to "save the lives of Black people" via POLICY as you SUPPORT THE KILLING OF masses of cells that WOULD TURN INTO "BLACK PEOPLE" if it was not torn from its natal nutrition?
Your "prenatal care" sure seems deadly.
I see why you don't present full humanity to a human being until the age of 7.
[quote]Black women in the 1920s and 1930s wanted individual control over their fertility, while at the same time they resisted government and privately funded anti-natalist population control campaigns.[/quote]
KCnulan - the biggest CONTROL that any woman has over her "fertility" is their CHOICE to keep "sperm injectors" OUT OF THEIR KOOCHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What you and they are REALLY arguing for is for SOCIETAL FORCES to NOT remove your desired ABSTRACTION between the FRONT END BEHAVIOR that triggers the "cell splitting" that turns into the human form and the will for the HOST WOMB to purge this "parasitic creature" from its nutrition source.
[quote]African-American women saw themselves not as breeders or matriarchs but as builders and nurturers of a race, a nation. [/quote]
Breeders?????????????????????????????
KCnulan its a good thing that these Non-Breeders who through some accident in their EVOLUTION retained the full function of all of the organs necessary to produce a mass of cells that look like a human WERE NOT THE ONLY WOMEN around. They would not have "A NATION" to nurture.
All this proves, KCnulan is that even back in the day there were "Abract Negroes" like yourself today.
That statement above is Negro Psychobabble.
I wonder if your article mentioned anything about the rate of lesbianism among these "non-breeders"?
HOW IRONIC!!! KCnulan splices FACTS about Sojourner Truth with New York Non-Breeders but FAILS to make note about Sojourner Truth's 5 CHILDREN.
[quote]Her master, Mr. Dumont arranged for her to marry a slave named Thomas. She had 5 children with him, but her master sold some of them. [/quote]
[quote]fewer kids in a family means resources are less thinly spread. Which increases money and attention spent on each child. Which increases their chances of success[/quote]
That Dude Said:
WHAT EXACTLY does your statement above have to do with ABORTION?
If two adults that are fully equipped with reproductive cells and functioning organs DON'T WANT TO HAVE TOO MANY KIDS...there are PLENTY of ways to prevent this and NOT destroy a dependent fetus in vetro.
Big Man:
I wanted to let you know that I plan to make a blog post about your rationalization excerpted here:
[quote]we don't disagree on the fact that there are people invested in creating an uneducated, populace composed of individuals focused on unimportant things. We agree that far too many black people don't think enough about the motives behind the things they consider normal. This is true for all folks, but black folks have to be particularly wary because we've been targeted for so long...
[/quote]
Some would say that certain segments of Black folks have done EVERYTHING NECESSARY to remain as they are.
[quote]
Anyway, black folks embrace liberals because the alternative appears to be embracing conservatives.[/quote]
Big Man - some people EMBRACE a cripple as he attempts to walk across the street in traffic.
I am sure that you agree that if a 32 year old, fully competent Black man who is EMBRACED by a LIBERAL as he crossed the street that this LIBERAL does NOT think that this Black man is an EQUAL HUMAN BEING TO HIM but that he believes that he is INCOMPETENT.
It is up to the NEGRO to using discretion to distinguish between those who seek to HELP THEM versus those who think that he is an INFERIOR.
[quote]And Lord knows those folks aren't going to help us out.[/quote]
Big Man - could you define what YOUR VERSION of "help" means?
What if the FUNCTION of one's intervention has the negative effect of PREVENTING the people in question from settling upon a FUNCTIONAL CULTURE that supports the STANDARD OF LIVING that they seek, suppressing their dysfunctions via MANAGEMENT processes that are developed over time?
[quote]They support the same companies, they support the same paradigm, only they do it from the position that black folks are an inferior species that can't seem to embrace that fact.[/quote]
Big Man when the city of New Haven CT saw that no Blacks made the cut after a battery of tests that THEY CREATED AND PRESENTED.....do YOU THINK that the City of New Haven believed that BLACKS WERE EQUAL BEINGS when they decided to THROW OUT THE RESULTS?
[quote] That's why black folks flock to liberals. We've been trained to think of them as the alternative to conservatives.[/quote]
Boy am I going to have fun with you Big Man. This MAKES NO DAMNED SENSE!!!
Instead of looking at the CONSERVATIVES......why don't you look at the fact that:
* YOUR SCHOOLS ARE STILL FAILING, despite now having PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN running them?
* YOUR STREETS ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY UNSAFE despite having placed A FAVORABLE MAYOR who they report to IN PLACE to control the POLICE.
* YOUR employment centers DO NOT PRODUCE enough "Consumers of Labor" to employ your people.
Big Man IF THE LIBERAL IS AN "ALTERNATIVE TO THE CONSERVATIVE" you need to first define how the Liberal is any different from "THE PEOPLE WHO DID NOT CARE ABOUT YOU" that were in power and that YOUR PEOPLE RAN OUT because of the harm the community experienced while they were in power.
I am simply not following your reasoning.
The residual effects upon a people, a society, a culture ONCE they have ALLOWED "abstract theorists" to place THE WILL OF MAN ahead of the key SOCIAL CONSTRUCTS necessary for a body of self interested individuals to live more purposefully and more inline with some higher order VALUES than they are otherwise inclined to do.
http://www.viddler.com/explore/ConstructiveFee/videos/308/
To the abstract theorist the 3 discarded fetuses in this episode of Maury Povich are inconsequential to the humans. These were simply 3 parasites that were created once the genetic material of the male had fertilized the reproductive cell of the female thus triggering a series of exponential cell splitting that needed to be STOPPED by disconnecting the parasite from its NUTRITION SOURCE in the womb.
When a HIGHLY COMPLEX BEING is reduced to its component parts....... this can ONLY lead to the GIFT OF ITS HUMANITY to be discarded because this type of mental abstraction is needed to allow him to disconnect himself from his actions.
EUGENICS - ALIVE & WELL IN ZIONIST ISRAEL:
the eugenics-based concept of "social engineering" was part of the psychiatric mainstream here from the 1930s through the 1950s
psychiatrist Avraham Rabinovich, who worked in the Ezrat Nashim facility in Jerusalem and later managed a mental institution in Bnei Brak, drew a distinction in his patient reports from 1921-1928 between the general population, and Jews of Bukharan, Georgian and Persian descent, whom he referred to as "primitive races."
The views of these psychiatrists meshed with the goals of the Zionist movement, which at the time propounded a policy of selective immigration.
"Eugenics was a part of the national philosophy of most of [the local] psychiatrists," says Zalashik. "The theory was that a healthy nation was needed in order to fulfill the Zionist vision in Israel. There was a powerful economic aspect to this view of things - the idea being to prevent people who were perceived as a burden on society from bringing children into the world. And homosexuals and frigid women also fell into this category."
"Israel is a superpower in terms of pre-pregnancy tests and abortions," she says. "Abortions are performed here on the slightest pretext, including [correctable] aesthetic flaws such as a cleft palate. The notion that there are some babies that shouldn't be born is part of the eugenic philosophy."
Constructive Feedback said:
It is up to the NEGRO to using discretion to distinguish between those who seek to HELP THEM versus those who think that he is an INFERIOR.
Constructive, can you honestly say that the majority of conservatives do NOT view black folks as inferior? I mean, how do you come to that conclusion given all the evidence to the contrary.
Also, you misquoted me in your diatribe. I said :"That's why black folks flock to liberals. We've been trained to think of them as the alternative to conservatives"
Notice the phrase, "trained to think."
I never actually said that liberals were a true alternative. I do not believe in the fantasy of liberals as the saviors and friends of black people.
I see it as a sliding scale of evil. On one hand I have a group that constantly expresses its belief that I am inferior, regularly enacts economic policies that would keep me in a subservient position and supports systems of control to make sure I never stop being subservient. That's conservatives.
On the other hand, I have a group that thinks I'm inferior, but does not regularly insult me to my face, a group that enacts SOME economic policies that benefit me, and a group that has worked to enact SOME reforms on those institutions that would keep me in a position of subservience. That's liberals.
Neither group is a true friend, but one group is obviously a more serious enemy.
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