Monday, February 02, 2009

Undercover Brother and The Deconstruction of Manufactured Scorn

Here's where you and I differ, Craig. What kind of discussion is "derailed" by the presentation of authentic information? Between this "amero" and the decapitated Palestinian child, I think I'm imparting a valuable lesson on how one should (and can) verify and clarify the data one encounters on the internet.

Denmark Vesey said ...
Actually Brother Mills, I think you missed the point.

No, the Amero coin in question is not minted by the US government. Yet, neither is the US Dollar printed by the US government. Why is the possibility of a North American Union to be disqualified from serious consideration simply because a private individual took it upon himself to mint a coin and call it the Amero?

What is greater indication of a pending North American Union: a collapsing economy, devalued currencies, tariff free treaties and dissolving sovereignty or a press release by the Federal Reserve? The Mexican Middle Class already lives in Southern California. Neither our nanny nor our gardener holds a US passport. We have had a de facto NAU for years.

More importantly, I submit the data you received in college, on the evening news, in the NY Times, from Encyclopedias, CNN or any other source you consider "legitimate" is NO more legitimate than the data you encounter anywhere else. It simply has the stamp of approval from the establishment. It has the Plantation OK. Which seems to be a little more important to you than independent deduction.

In fact, I submit you are not concerned about the fidelity of data at all, but the sanction of data. You accept "magical thinking" without question from ... "Approved" (Plantation) sources all the time. I submit the magical "6 Million" number purported to be lost in the Holocaust as an example - LOL. You wouldn't question that impossibility if your life depended on it.

But let a muhfuggah doubt the sustainability of the Federal Reserve, fiat currency and fractional reserve banking or anticipate an EU like merger in North America without a "Plantation OK" and you become Doubting Thomas. Why the selective sarcasm?
Undercover Black Man said...
You run a hot fucking club here, DV. Let me start by saying that. Now:

... I submit you are not concerned about the fidelity of data at all, but the sanction of data.

You don't know who you're talking to, Jim. I am an ardent student of fringe ideologies and a longtime consumer of "alternative" infostreams.

My personal library includes volumes on Opus Dei, Lubavitch Hasidism, Freemasonry, Trilateralism, the Five-Percent Nation, chaos magic, the international drug trade, espionage, Satanic sex-abuse hysteria, and the political texts of George Lincoln Rockwell, William Pierce and Revilo P. Oliver... to name a few.

I understand the lure of "secret knowledge," DV. Matter fact, that's what I seek to understand -- the mechanisms of mind that allow highly intelligent people to believe things that are unproven, untestable and batshit bizarre.

What profiteth a man if he's skeptical of every "official story" yet credulous about every crackpot rumor, meme and urban myth?

Why the selective sarcasm? Because my gift is seeing through other people's bullshit.

Why that would discombobulate the likes of a Craig Nulan, I don't know. And I'm not in the goddamn guessing business. I just like putting people through their paces and seeing how well their ideas stand up.

17 comments:

All-Mi-T [Thought Crime] Rawdawgbuffalo said...

well said and u know how i feel

happy black history months

RDB

All-Mi-T [Thought Crime] Rawdawgbuffalo said...
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Anonymous said...

"No, the Amero coin in question is not minted by the US government. Yet, neither is the US Dollar printed by the US government."

LOL - Ouch!! Someone just got posterized..

And yes, I came to the same conclusion* so far about the "Holocaust" myself. Frankly, the numbers and "evidence" just don't add up. It reeks like the WWII 9II:

Hollycaust?
The Truth About Auschwitz?

* - Were Jews (and others) rounded up and stuck in concentration camps? Yes...
- Were they gassed to death by the millions? Likely no.
- Did they starve to death like 50 million Russians at the same time under Jewish Marixsm, especially after US forces cut off German food supply lines? Yup. (Why would they be treated any better than everyone else at the time?)
- Was the Jewish death toll from this more like "only" 100-300K? According to actual available evidence, yes.
- Have Zionist Jews exploited their revisionist version of the event as a carte blanche to ruthlessly pursue global Zionism since then? YUP!
- Can you get thrown in jail for the audacious thought-crime of daring to question their "unquestionable" doctrine? YUP!
- Do universal Western concepts like free speech not apply to Jewish propaganda? Yup!

Anonymous said...

good points

Undercover Black Man said...

You run a hot fucking club here, DV. Let me start by saying that. Now:

... I submit you are not concerned about the fidelity of data at all, but the sanction of data.

You don't know who you're talking to, Jim. I am an ardent student of fringe ideologies and a longtime consumer of "alternative" infostreams.

My personal library includes volumes on Opus Dei, Lubavitch Hasidism, Freemasonry, Trilateralism, the Five-Percent Nation, chaos magic, the international drug trade, espionage, Satanic sex-abuse hysteria, and the political texts of George Lincoln Rockwell, William Pierce and Revilo P. Oliver... to name a few.

I understand the lure of "secret knowledge," DV. Matter fact, that's what I seek to understand -- the mechanisms of mind that allow highly intelligent people to believe things that are unproven, untestable and batshit bizarre.

What profiteth a man if he's skeptical of every "official story" yet credulous about every crackpot rumor, meme and urban myth?

Why the selective sarcasm?

Because my gift is seeing through other people's bullshit.

Why that would discombobulate the likes of a Craig Nulan, I don't know. And I'm not in the goddamn guessing business.

I just like putting people through their paces and seeing how well their ideas stand up.

Her Side said...

When I think of the way some accept information that is "approved" by the "right" sources, I can only think, "Like sheep led to slaughter."

People desperately don't want to think for themselves, leaving a frightening opportunity for others to exercise deceptive mind control.

For the past several years of my life, I started questioning everything. I mean EVERYTHING... to the value of church attendance to the nature of the why my mother and I relate/don't relate the way we do.
And I am satisfied with the (ongoing) outcomes of that learning process.

CNu said...

Here's where you and I differ, Craig. What kind of discussion is "derailed" by the presentation of authentic information? Between this "amero" and the decapitated Palestinian child, I think I'm imparting a valuable lesson on how one should (and can) verify and clarify the data one encounters on the internet.

Does anyone else recall Bell Curve boy answering a single one of the many, many questions put to him on that thread?

http://denmarkvesey.blogspot.com/2009/01/you-dont-even-know-what-this-means-do.html

I just like putting people through their paces and seeing how well their ideas stand up.

Someone please show me where this shallow fraud and gossip girl has EVER yet managed to put a single correspondent through any "paces"?

Undercover Black Man said...

Glad you posted that link, Craig. So folks can see how you broke left faster than Snagglepuss with diarrhea.

CNu said...

Beige Bell Curve Boy (BBCB) confuses freedom of defecation with freedom of expression - making yet another failed attempt to shit all over the truth....,

Undercover Black Man said...

DV: See why I brought up "The Bell Curve"? Quite like the Protocols of Zion, the very words "Bell Curve" are used as a political weapon -- in this case, by leftist bullies, doctrinaire egalitarianists and "Black partisan" hacks.

The goal is not only to delegitimize the information, but to delegitimize anybody who dares discuss anything even close to said information. "You're peddling that Bell Curve bullshit, you racist!"

So then, Denmark Vesey... as you were inclined to give "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" an open-minded reading due to its "suppression" by the conventional-wisdom crowd, have you been drawn to "The Bell Curve" out of the same impulse?

Where do you stand on the notion that different human sub-groups might have, generally speaking, different IQ potentialities?

CNu said...

leftist bullies...,

doctrinaire egalitarianists...,

and "Black partisan" hacks...,

The goal is not only to...,

delegitimize the information...,

but to delegitimize anybody...,

who dares discuss...,


wherein BBCB strikes still another unselfconscious pose - exposing an intellectual endowment even more miniscule than burr-die's.

Far be it from me to speak on their behalf, but I haven't seen a single one of your correspondents questioning your legitimacy BBCB.

I have, on the other hand, seen quite a few smart Black folks demonstrate that your arguments are factually and logically unsound. In other words, that you're kind of stupid.

Since you durst not write down your own "arguments" or objections to the arguments presented by others;

I just like putting people through their paces and seeing how well their ideas stand up.

whereupon you talk shit about those others like an ugly adolescent girl in a middle-school popularity contest...,

Why you even want to pretend to have intellectual endowments when you know that every single time you expose these, you make your shriveled little offerings the object invidious comparison?

So here's where we're at BBCB - you know - that I know - that you know - that if anybody ever gets a peek under your "covers", you'll be laughed at for even trying to pretend to be a smart Black man.

Face it David, your entire stock-in-trade is as a useful idiot.

Undercover Black Man said...

As I was saying, DV... where do you stand on the notion that different human sub-groups might have, generally speaking, different IQ potentialities?

In other words, is it possible that the reason why Chinese Americans tend to score higher than European Americans on cognitive tests... and why European Americans tend to score higher than African Americans... has something to do with genetic differences?

I think it's possible. And I think it's a legitimate area of academic inquiry, because it has serious public-policy implications.

What sez you, DV? You'll man up against the Jew World Order... but do you dare lay on a finger on this burning hot stove?

Anonymous said...

Nulie straight slayed you Mills.

Why you wanna compound the damage by creeping out on this limb?

Anonymous said...

"In other words, is it possible that the reason why Chinese Americans tend to score higher than European Americans on cognitive tests... and why European Americans tend to score higher than African Americans... has something to do with genetic differences?

I think it's possible. And I think it's a legitimate area of academic inquiry, because it has serious public-policy implications."


Yup, genes, race & IQ - the statistical correlations are simply too strong and consistent to dismiss.


Why do you think the Jews eventually takeover every country they infect? Aside from their total lack of scruples, Ashkenazi Jews also average the highest IQs in the world.

And why do you think our Commy affirmative-action program has helped lead to our total economic collapse and outsourcing in just 40-odd years? Because the underlying assumption that we're all intellectually-equal flies in the face of all scientific evidence and has thus misguided our public policy for 40-odd years. This contrasted with the ferocious industrial rise of Asia, but not Latin America or Africa. Again, this was all engineered by manipulative Jews seeking to destroy our national strength and sovereignty so we'll ALL be forced to bow down to their global Zionism in the near future.

Undercover Black Man said...

Nulie straight slayed you Mills.

Slayed me? Then why am I still standing?

Sign your name next time, beetch.

Michael Fisher said...

Mills is still on this Bell Curve shit?

Mills. Have you even read the Bell Curve? If so, can you cite exactly if and how Murray and Herrnstein defined blacks, whites, etc?

One can't measure something one has not defined.

Since you're so much into intellectual honesty, cite the pertinent definitions contained in the Bell Curve if you would please do so.

Denmark Vesey said...

"Sign your name next time, beetch."

True