Before Mugabe 4,000 white farmers owned 26 million acres of land -- one-third of the nation -- while 8,000,000 African peasants held another third. 
"I really thought we were all dead," said Ben Freeth, one of a group of white farmers severely beaten in a rural area southwest of Harare. Freeth, a British national, and his family were the owners of a 3,000 acre farm on some of the richest most fertile land in all of Africa.What Corporate Media doesn't want you to know about Mugabe:
"Countries such as the U.S. and Britain have taken it upon themselves to decide for us in the developing world, even to interfere in our domestic affairs and to bring about what they call regime change. "
Robert Mugabe
The white man is not indigenous to Africa. Africa is for Africans. Zimbabwe is for Zimbabweans.
Robert Mugabe
"In most recent times, as the West started being hostile to us, we deliberately declared a Look East policy. "
The white man is not indigenous to Africa. Africa is for Africans. Zimbabwe is for Zimbabweans. "In most recent times, as the West started being hostile to us, we deliberately declared a Look East policy. "Robert Mugabe
"Our party must continue to strike fear in the heart of the white man, our real enemy! It may be necessary to use methods other than constitutional ones. So, Blair keep your England, and let me keep my Zimbabwe. "
"Some people are contriving ways and means of making us collapse."
Robert Mugabe
"Some people are contriving ways and means of making us collapse."Robert Mugabe
Was it not enough punishment and suffering in history that we were uprooted and made helpless slaves not only in new colonial outposts but also domestically. Robert Mugabe
We have said we will never collapse, never ever. We may have our droughts, our poverty, but as a people we shall never collapse, never ever.
Robert Mugabe
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Before Mugabe 4,000 white farmers owned 26 million acres of land -- one-third of the nation -- while 8,000,000 African peasants held another third.
What are the ownership stats after since Mugabe?
Good question??
And...what is he doing for the average Zimbabwean to make their lives better sounds like he is using a lot of intimidation against his people to remain in power...
What's the deal?
Those 4,000 white farmers ... are down to 30.
Those 30 look like the cat in the above photo - asses kicked and on the way out.
Average Zimbabwean?
Whatever he could do for the average Zimbabwean is being intentionally hindered by former colonial powers and by powerful Western nations like the US and Israel who are determined to punish the people of Zimbabwe and to execute "regime change" for daring to exercise self-determination.
Inflation in Zimbabwe? Of course. We have been waging an economic war on that nation for years. We have been fostering turmoil and strife. We are financing "opposition" political parties who would prove to be nothing more than glorified puppets for the US & Israel (Like nearly every other African nation).
Mugabe's fight is the last stand for real African independence.
The story is being told here in the corporate press in a manner to portray Mugabe as nothing more than another despotic crazy dictator.
I won't be surprised if they do to Mugabe what they did to Idi Amin - suggest he is a cannibal.
what is he doing for the average Zimbabwean to make their lives better sounds like he is using a lot of intimidation against his people to remain in power...
Why, he's very busy letting Blacks enjoy their liberation from their K-gaming White oppressors! :)
many small holders were unfamiliar with modern farming methods and resorted to the original, primitive forms of farming - providing only sufficient for the family: a cow or goat, a few chickens and some vegetables. Gone were the vast white-owned farms that helped create a nation known as the "breadbasket" of Africa through producing crops for self-sufficiency at home, and export of crops like tobacco, cotton and agriculture, thereby supplementing its foreign exchange reserves. Additional foreign currency was gained through the export of gold and minerals.
Shortly after the dramatic change in the agricultural sector came successive droughts. The dry lands could not be relieved from the reservoirs built by white farmers, as they had run dry due to inadequate maintenance.
Estimates claim inflation in Zimbabwe this month is around 4 million per cent.
Regardless of other factors, when you cut out the K-gamers in your society...expect it to predictably revert back to an r-game favela. Water seeks its own level. And when you cut that out too, you also cut out any trickle-down water as well.
But hey, at least I doubt they are $9 tril in debt like the US. So, it could be worse.
Mugabe was a great backseat driver. Unfortunately, he sucks far worse as the frontseat driver.
Byrdeye,
I don't know about that article. Something is missing. The conclusion that Blacks in Africa are unable to farm their own lands seems not just simplistic, but borders on the absurd.
And, even, assuming for the sake of argument, Zimbabweans are woefully unskilled in tilling their own lands, where is China in all this?
Reducing this story to the simplistic meme that "Blacks can't farm so Zimbabwe lost its hard currency" is beneath you Byrdeye. How are you, of all people, falling for the meme production?
But ultimately, it is unfair to "blame" either White colonialists or Mugabe here.
When the average IQ in Zimbabwe is 66. Let's face it, that's just not much brainpower on average to work with.
Therefore, they need to rely upon natural resources, rather than human intellect, to build their economy. But, it is hard to even do that efficiently if you don't have sufficient brainpower to design and streamline the process.
Which is fine, if that's what they want. At least it may be a more ecologically-sustainable lifestyle.
Zimbabweans are woefully unskilled in tilling their own lands, where is China in all this?
Ever heard of Mao's Great Leap Forward (Backward)? This backyard production method was quite the...spectacular...failure. (Albeit victory for Jewish meme warfarists.)
Been there, done that. Already a proven failure for national economic growth.
Reducing this story to the simplistic meme that "Blacks can't farm so Zimbabwe lost its hard currency" is beneath you Byrdeye...
I wouldn't say this discourse is beneath Brydeye, it's on his "k-game" level.
Abhhhh ... Byrd.
Come on now Pawtna.
The Zimbabweans have just overcome a 300 year Home Invasion at the hands of murderous "K-gamers" who history will consider nothing more than glorified car-jackers.
5 minutes after the hostages escape they are under assault by external cousins of their kidnappers.
10 minutes later the trains don't run on time.
Meme of the Nation Jackers?
"See. We had to murder them and rob them of their land to make them more efficient."
Now, Byrd, if you are going to keep copious statistics on "black on white" crimes - Call the game both ways ref.
DV - True. But, why did they allow White K-gamers in to begin with?
Lack of organized national defense?
Lack of military technology?
Lack of political acumen?
Lack of a strong domestic, economic core.
All these are symptomatic of r-game favelas. Which makes them weak to begin with on a collective front and thus prone to invasion and takeover.
If Larry Bird cross-overed and penetrated their D for the jam, do you blame Bird or their weak playground D? And if he hard-fouled while at it - maybe you should have kicked his ass off the court and stopped the game.
It's like when someone gets sick. You need both a pathogen AND a weak immune system.
You can blame the pathogen...but until you get a strong immune system, you will fall prey to all sorts of bugs.
Nature is a continual battle between various lifeforms. Live strong.
If Mugabe was the man of the year in Zimbabwe why resort to vote rigging, killing opposition party members and setting up a police state? My ex is form Zimbabwe and she can no longer communicate with her family and they cannot leave Zimbabwe, she doesn't dare go back as expats are often arrested.
Byrdeye said...
"DV - True. But, why did they allow White K-gamers in to begin with?"
Same reason the white couple "let" the black "R-gamers" into their home when it was invaded, robbed and the woman sodomized.
Dependence on the state.
Lack of realistic relationship with nature.
Lack of spiritual development.
Confusing technology with wealth.
All of these are symptomatic of industrialized k-game toxic wastelands that eventually render
"k-gamers" infertile and on the brink of extinction. This ... collective suicide ... tends to spawn psychotic ideologues, armed with technology and mechanisms of industrial slaughter, addicted to the narcotic of supremacy theory who believe they can save themselves by killing others. Or preventing them from being born.
If Mugabe was the man of the year in Zimbabwe why resort to vote rigging, killing opposition party members and setting up a police state? My ex is form Zimbabwe and she can no longer communicate with her family and they cannot leave Zimbabwe, she doesn't dare go back as expats are often arrested.
Classical ... Classical ... Classical
"I could of been somebody! I could have been a contender!" Brando
What is more "vote rigging" than what the US, Britain and Israel are doing by financing potential presidential puppets, disseminating propaganda and generally meddling in the internal affairs of Zimbabwe?
What if Iranians proved to be financing Barack Obama's campaign here in the US? What do you think the response of Fox News and their Republicans would be?
It's the same thing man.
In the mainstream media, a "Fair Election" means one in which we can use our money to determine.
Your ex would have no problems communicating with her family, if her ex-boyfriends country wasn't waging an economic war (which is just as deadly as a conflict of bombs) on her homeland.
^ True, K-gamers tend to be weaker on an individual level...r-gamers on a collective level.
Which is not really a problem when these societies are homogenous.
In many "pure" K-game countries, they don't even need to lock their doors.
Similarly, in "pure" r-game countries, they don't really need to worry about being colonized by another national superpower.
But problems arise when these 2 games collide.
And as I've said before, neither K-game consumption nor r-game breeding are sustainable. Both need to be curbed way the fuck back.
BTW, I'm not sure Mugabe or Zimbabwe's are spiritually-developed. And many Zimbabweans are in fact, dependent on the state. These peeps just don't appear to be holy shamans communing with Nature - but starving squirrels trying to get a nut in a barren economic wasteland under thug rule.
PS - Personally, I advocate a strong defense on all levels for personal protection. Street thugs and hegemonists all look for the easiest targets.
Around 1997 the British government stopped funding the "willing buyer, "willing seller" land reform program on the basis that the initial $80 million allocated under the Thatcher government was used to purchase land for members of the Mugabe ruling elite rather than landless peasants. Mugabe didn't remove whites from the farms for native Zimbabwe redistribution but for himself and his close supporters. Don't be so easily fooled... Call a spade a spade! Then he printed Zimbabwe currency to fund the 2nd Congo war which also translated into hyperinflation... Ala Bush/Cheney. Although other countries have suspect elections... The moment you decide to kill your political opposition you have officially crossed God's line.
Wow Casper.
That's amazing.
That's what "The British Government" said ... huh?
Wow. Well, that settles it.
Once "The British Government" says something, you know it's true. (Even if it is in the interest of British subjects)
After all - when The Queen originally distributed the 26 million acres of African soil to her subjects - she did it equally among the British people.
The British aristocracy and her "associates" had ABSOLUTELY NO ADVANTAGE over the typical British citizen.
LOL.
That Plantation Negro shit runs deep. Casper actually thinks The British are more prone to impartial objectivity than are Africans.
Amazing.
"The moment you decide to kill your political opposition you have officially crossed God's line."
Lincoln
JFK
RFK
MLK
Black Panther Party
I'm sorry Casper, what you say? Couldn't hear you with all of those gunshots echoing throughout history.
WASHINGTON, July 4 — When the TransAfrica Forum decided to speak out last month against Zimbabwe's president, Robert Mugabe, for condoning the jailing, beating and killing of black opposition party supporters, it shouldn't have been all that surprising.
After all, for decades, TransAfrica, a research and lobbying group based here, has been speaking out on the struggles of Africans on the continent and elsewhere. In the 1980's, for instance, it led the anti-apartheid marches that helped press the American government to change its policy of "constructive engagement" with the white government of South Africa.
In the 90's the group protested against the repressive black regimes in Haiti and Nigeria.
In this latest action TransAfrica's president and other prominent black Americans from Africa Action, an advocacy group here; Howard University; and church and labor unions wrote a public letter to Mr. Mugabe, assailing what they described as the "increasing intolerant, repressive and violent policies of your government."
Keep your head in the sand DV... While Africans die...
"Keep your head in the sand DV... While Africans die..." Casper
That is pure comedy.
Some little Negro organization, no more legitimate than the NAACP or the Congressional Black Caucus ... issues a "statement" ... probably written by the same people attempting Regime change in Zimbabwe - and Casper cuts and pastes it here - like it's some sort of proof positive that Mugabe is evil and the people of Zimbabwe were better off when the good white plantation owners owned the country.
I didn't even know they still made Negros like Casper. Fascinating.
I believe in the stance of Mugabe, It is the sanctions by the western powers that have destroyed Zim, not Mugabe.
DV
When is the last time you have been to Africa?? Is the answer never... So how is it you have first hand knowledge about what the fuck is happening from your perch in the hills of Beverly?
Fresh Prince never fails!
Bill Fletcher Jr., the president of TransAfrica, says black Americans cannot afford to romanticize African leaders if they hope to remain relevant to the struggles on the continent. They must be willing to condemn wrongdoing, he said, even if that means criticizing some revered leaders.
"When the enemy was evil white people in South Africa, that was easy," Mr. Fletcher said in an interview at his office here. "But when the enemy becomes someone who looks like us, we're very skittish about taking that on."
"It's very difficult to accept that a ruling class has emerged in Zimbabwe that is oppressing its own people, but you've got to face the reality," he said. "I felt like we had to speak out."
Mr. Booker said he, Mr. Fletcher and others had first tried to work behind the scenes, meeting with Zimbabwean diplomats and urging them to respect human rights and to initiate formal talks with the opposition to improve the deteriorating political situation.
When that failed, he said, they wrote their letter.
"Mugabe was my hero," said Mr. Booker, who worked at TransAfrica in the 80's and helped arrange Mr. Mugabe's first visit to the White House. "He was a liberator, the defiant hero. Zimbabwe was a country where we had a lot invested emotionally and politically."
"But we had to ask ourselves: `Who are we in solidarity with in southern Africa? The aging heroes or the new African civil society?' he said. "It's not just about Zimbabwe. We have to be clear who our allies are. We should not be standing shoulder to shoulder with African governments who are abusing their own people. The time had arrived for us to take a public stance."
I believe in Mugabe! The western powers are responsible for the sanctions and the resultant poverty in Zim.
The reason why the British did not honour the Lancaster Agreement was because most of the white farmers in Zim where consevatives so the(non consevative) Prime Minister at the time didn't see the need to spend all that money to bail out the Zim Gov.
The corrupt West has no moral authority to talk or dictate to Zim.
It's unfortunate that the West has so much power over Africa as to be able to cause chaos by imposing sanctions.
They can go to hell! Africa will always survive!
were (sp)
Casper,
#1 I'm in Africa now.
#2 The problem with you Plantation Negros is that you buy into any meme if it's sponsored by liberal white people - who you simply deem "good white people."
Whether it's Darfur and it's Genocide propaganda or it's Zimbabwe and it's "oppression" - the end game is the same - REGIME CHANGE IN RICH AFRICAN NATIONS.
When are you going to get it?
Americans have 2 million human beings in prison and you have the nerve to lecture an African government on oppression?
Casper, read Frantz Fannon, not 'TransAfrica' website, then get back to me.
Anytime the UK and US team up against any leader of any nation outside of western europe, you can rest assured that their policy is full of lies (Chavez, Ahmadinejad, Mugabe). When I was in Jo'berg, to a man, nearly every S. African I talk to praised Mugabe as the only African leader willing to pick up a gun to gain freedom. Thus, until further notice, I'm a Mugabe supporter.
Get 'em TSO.
Thank God for black men still able to think out the box.
It's unfortunate that the West has so much power over Africa as to be able to cause chaos by imposing sanctions.
Correction when is CHINA! considered the west.
DV
#1 I'm in Africa now.
That's funny... your girl just saw you in West Hollywood not to long ago. Keep It Real ! You have never been Africa.
Casper, I am Africa.
Just like you the plantation
DV
#2 The problem with you Plantation Negros is that you buy into any meme if it's sponsored by liberal white people - who you simply deem "good white people."
And since you have never been to Africa... What/who do you buy into. Me think your caddy providing you bad info. Your always using the incorrect club son.
DV
When are you going to get it?
Americans have 2 million human beings in prison and you have the nerve to lecture an African government on oppression?
No you don't get it... Neither is cool DV regardless of what colour the oppressor may be.
TSO
Thus, until further notice, I'm a Mugabe supporter.
Critical thinker or blind sheep? Bush and McCain picked up guns too... and your point is what???
DV
Casper, I am Africa.
Impossible! Africans have big dicks and rythm! Carlton
Actually aren't you Central American... I see you running through the jungles there all the time.
Is this from the US or the UK you smart people? ya'll are killin me!
AlJazeera
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FNdZwydirFA
Dina...
"Reducing this story to the simplistic meme that "Blacks can't farm so Zimbabwe lost its hard currency" is beneath you Byrdeye. How are you, of all people, falling for the meme production?"
Beneath him?
That's the essence of his entire argument.
Casper...
"WASHINGTON, July 4 — When the TransAfrica Forum..."
Fuck a TransAfrica, Cap.
Transafrica never led jack. All they did is lead divertion.
The anti-apartheid movement was initiated and led by black folks who were Pan-Africanists under the demand "Africa for the Africans, at home and abroad".
Organizationally that took the form of the African Support Liberation Committee founded in 1971 by Owusu Saudaki (Howard Fuller) and the Anti-divestment student movement founded by yours truly and another brother within the organizational structure of the Black Student Alliance at Yale as well as a now deceased Korean-American Yale student name of Sergei Demanyenko in under the guidance of David Sibeko, the leader of the Pan Africanist Congress of Azania (South Africa) who was assassinated in Tanzania in 1979.
It was us black kids who trained these white kids how to do anti-apartheid work and it was us black kids who set up NECLSA (North East Coalition for the Liberation of Southern Africa - the largest American anti-apartheid student movement ever with anti-apartheid committees at hundreds of campuses) as well as it's Mid-West and West Coast counter-parts.
Transafrica was brought in and financed by white "liberals", Communists, Trotzkyites, etc. in order to divert the liberation support work from "African Land to Africans" to "Let's have the right to take a shit next to white people".
The Mandela ANC was never led by black people. Everything the ANC did internationally was led and determined by the American Committee On Africa (led by George Hauser and South African white Trotzkyite Jennifer Davis) and in Britain by the Anti-Apartheid Movement.
Why the hell do you think that white folks throughout the planet are celebrating Mandela's birthday in Hyde park? Because he liberated South Africa from them?
Be real.
Study history
That's African Liberation Support Committee, by the way.
Casper...
"Mugabe was my hero," said Mr. Booker, who worked at TransAfrica in the 80's"
That's another fucking lie.
First off, it's easy to have Mugabe as your hero after 1980 when Zimbabwe was officially "liberated" (though the land, as per a compromise, was not).
Before 1980 Transafrica pretty much exclusively supported everybody but ZANU and it's guerrilla army ZANLA. They chose to support Joshua Nkomo's ZAPU which was the Soviet and white liberal-financed counterpart to the ANC and whose army ZIRPA did little to nothing to conduct the war against Ian Smith and the Rhodesians.
Before 1980 the pan-africanist ZANU of Zimbabwe and the PAC of Azania (South Africa) were anathema to most of these Transafrica Negroes.
They preferred the soothing verbal stylings of Rhodesia-Zimbabwe's Bishop Abel Muzorewa, leader of Rhodesia's ANC, the pacifist sing-along of South Africa's Bishop Desmond Tutu, and Mandela's "Why can't we all get along - South Africa belongs to all who live within it".
Fuck it. If someone breaks into my house, confines me and my kids to the basement and keeps that up for 1000 generations even, I still expect my great-great-great-great...great grandkids to restore my property to themselves. Even if that means that they don't know anymore how to flush a single toilet in the house.
You go and ask a German or a Pole or a Scot or an Irishman to give up their shit. You know what you're gonna get?
World War 2
Announce results - Obama urges Zimbabwe
By Staff ⋅ © zimbabwemetro.com ⋅ April 8, 2008 ⋅ Email This Post ⋅ Post a comment
WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Senator Barack Obama today released the following statement on Zimbabwe’s presidential and parliamentary elections:
“On March 29th, millions of Zimbabweans went to the polls to choose their president and parliament. The resulting defeat of the ruling ZANU-PF party in parliamentary elections underscores the Zimbabwean people’s rejection of the failed policies and the widespread suffering caused by Robert Mugabe’s repressive rule.
“The long delayed release of the results of the senate and presidential ballots by the Zimbabwean Election Commission has exacerbated suspicions that Mugabe will again manipulate the outcome. The election results should be announced without further delay. Yesterday’s detentions, including of two foreign journalists, among them a reporter for the New York Times, and of an American staffer of the National Democratic Institute, further fuel tension. The government’s raid on the offices of the opposition Movement for Democratic Change as well as today’s staged march through Harare of so-called “war veterans” are provocative tactics designed to intimidate the opposition and Zimbabwean people.
“Zimbabwe now appears poised to hold a run-off election for the presidency, which Mugabe has vowed to contest. This election must be conducted in a fully transparent manner, free from intimidation and consistent with the rule of law. These elections have the potential to be truly historic, if indeed they are fully free and fair. Their conduct and outcome will determine if Zimbabwe’s economic and humanitarian crisis is deepened, or if the door is finally opened to a new and more hopeful chapter in Zimbabwe’s history.”
Source: Senator Barack Obama
Senate Passes Obama Resolution Condemning Human Rights Violations in Zimbabwe
Wednesday, June 27, 2007
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CONTACT: Ben LaBolt
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- U.S. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) today released the following statement following the Senate’s passage of a resolution he introduced to condemn the Zimbabwean government for repressive and violent actions against its people. Obama introduced the resolution, (S.Con.Res.25), in March 2007.
“The Senate condemns the horrific violations of human rights perpetrated by the Mugabe regime,” said Senator Obama. “For years, the Mugabe government has violently suppressed legitimate opposition parties and ignored the welfare of its own citizens. The United States must continue to pressure the Mugabe regime to allow Zimbabweans to pursue their hopes for legitimate political change and work with the international community to help all Zimbabweans forge a better future for their nation.”
Senator Obama serves as a member of the Foreign Relations Committee.
Casper...
"Obama urges Zimbabwe..."
So what Casp?
Simple Fish... Mugabe is no saint! Far from it! Call a spade a spade!
That ain't the point, Casp.
In this case DV is right when he chides you for quoting the British.
Tsvangerai and the MDC-T folks are basically fighting to return the land to the white folks. They ain't fighting to get the land to those 8 million Africans.
So at the end of the day you gotta figure this: Would you rather support the MDC and have them return the land to the colonizers or keep them at bay and hold Mugabe responsible for getting the land into the hands of the African people?
Remember what Malcolm said:
"Revolution is about land."
Period.
Fish
Tsvangerai and the MDC-T folks are basically fighting to return the land to the white folks. They ain't fighting to get the land to those 8 million Africans.
Speculation Fish... The reality is that Mugabe's tenure has created what for his people. Farm land has been out of the hands of that 1% minority for 15 years now... and what? How much for a banana?? In a once dominant agricultural country. Anyway Mugabe is selling out to the Chinese.. so what is the difference. Free and non-violent elections Fish... let the African people decide!
Fish
In this case DV is right when he chides you for quoting the British.
What difference does it make where the truth comes from Fish... Did he chide me when I posted basically the same claims from Obama... Ya'll need to stop the diversionary tatics! Sounding like FoxNews
Casper...
"Speculation Fish... The reality..."
Do some due diigence, Casp, and then return. Read the MDC-T literature, read up on what their economics guru Eddie Cross said (he's got a webite, google it), and no, the whites have not been dispossessed for the last 15 years.
Asto DV and Obama, and him not chiding you when you brought out Obama's statements. That may reflect on DV's legendary opportunism, but it does not mean that in this instance he was not correct.
Fish,
Do some due diigence
What are you challenging... What have I said that is not accurate? Mugabe is no saint! And I stick to that claim!
Watch the video Fish
I guess you & DV will claim that AlJazeera has a UK/US slant as well.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FNdZwydirFA
Fish,
What gets me about Casper is his inability to think for himself.
I don't respond to the particulars of his cut and paste exercises because I'm less interested in in media blurbs than I am in what he thinks. As a man. As an individual.
For example, when confronted with the ulterior motives of the anti-Mugabe propaganda and the economic strangling of the nation of Zimbabwe - he only parrots the mindless rhetoric distributed by his plantation masters.
I'm waiting for the moment Casper says to himself: "Yeah ... inflation in Zimbabwe aint a coincidence ... symbolic independence is one thing ... reclaiming the land is another ... Mugabe is attempting real tangible power which makes him a threat to One World Government and the New World Order. If he capitulates and allows his nation to be punked into submission, Africa will remain a de facto colony of Western powers."
Nah. Chicken George can't do that. He has to cut and paste plantation memes and talk about African dicks.
His foaming at the mouth eagerness to attack black men who buck the system and support a power system that has killed and enslaved millions is eerily similar to the Africans who ran down run away slaves.
DV
I don't respond to the particulars of his cut and paste exercises because I'm less interested in in media blurbs than I am in what he thinks. As a man. As an individual.
I ask you once again... Since you are not...have not... and will not set your feet on South African soil Mr. Golf Resort. Where are you getting your pro-Mugabe intelligence from. First hand? absolutely not... So stop frontin... with your O'Reilly I know it all tactics.... Not impressive. BTW the cut and paste is to re-affirm direct statments and quotes from your Prophet Obama who surely know a great deal more on the subject than you and others... Not the hearsay third hand rhetoric from you and some of your groupies!
Secondly, I respect black men/women who lead other black men and women not with fear and murder(example your Prophet Obama)but with dignity and respect. You should learn that from your Prophet!
Once again you will say anything to prove an invalid point!
Casper...
"Fish,
Do some due diigence"
Casp. I know most of these guys in Zimbabwe and South Africa personally, closely. Including the ANC guys who, understandably, officially (that is in the presence of their white sponsors and the white girls they were routinely fucking) had little love for moi. Behind the scenes it was something else again.
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