Skip Sievert said...
Obama is a scum bag working for Corporate Fascism. He is a minor player for the big boys. He is a pawn. He is a substitute for a real leader with ideas. He is recycling the same Price System bullshit... that we have heard. The system is now crippled. Between June and September it will tumble. Good luck Obama.... as just another Geo. Bush.. no doubt your masters will reward you for bad behavior also. Our political system can not be salvaged.It is run by the Illuminist. Obama is a player. A religious dissembler. Religion is used to control the sheople. To make the caste system. This system leads to disaster as society becomes dysfunctional because the current operating system no longer works. Origin of the Political/Price System TNAT TheNorthAmericanTechnate.
Jesus of Nazareth said ...
unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. John 8:39-47.
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Obama is a scum bag working for Corporate Fascism. He is a minor player for the big boys.
He is a pawn.
He is a substitute for a real leader with ideas.
He is recycling the same Price System bullshit... that we have heard.
The system is now crippled.
Between June and September it will tumble.
Good luck Obama.... as just another Geo. Bush.. no doubt your masters will reward you for bad behavior also.
Our political system can not be salvaged.
It is run by the Illuminis. Obama is a player. A religious dissembler.
Religion is used to control the sheople.
To make the caste system.
This system leads to disaster as society becomes dysfunctional because the current operating system no longer works.
Origin of the Political/Price System TNAT TheNorthAmericanTechnate
Jesus was young and ignorant and got caught up into something he did not really understand.
Any value he may have had was hijacked by religious dissemblers such as Paul who was a kind of P.T. Barnum of disinformation of the time.
Jesus was a Jew who had NO plan to start a new religion. He said he came to full fill the law. Jewish law.
All Christians and Muslims are actually Jews .. and if you go back farther ... originated by way of ideas in Iraq.
These spin off religions are merely recruiting tools for the Illuminis to control the sheople with... and designed for a period of scarcity and human labor.
Those days should be long gone.. at least in North America.
When the cast and crew of the political flunkies now all end their speeches in god bless America ... you can bet that what they are really saying is that we are going to screw the hell out of you... and then cash in on your hide... for the elite.
The so called elite are asleep also.
When the dinner bell is rung soon and no dinner is available for many people in the world change is going to occur.
For better or worse.
Funny thing that when a jesus says render unto Caesar ... the working stiff peons really believe the line of ancient bullshit.
A good society secular and humanistic and creative is now attainable... but the clock is ticking.. and humans are now threatened as to survival.
We are destroying the natural world for money.
Natural law always breaks human law.
skip sievert said...
Jesus was young and ignorant and got caught up into something he did not really ...
LOL.
Skip, Skip, Skip
The High Priest of Technocracy speaks of Jesus with all the certainty of a man who was in Jerusalem 2000 years ago.
He speaks as confidently of Jesus as GW Bush spoke of WMD's.
The desperation of those suffering from spiritual atrophy to discredit all affairs of the soul - tickles me.
Skip, attempting to convince spiritual people, there is no such thing as God, is like a deaf man trying to convince enthralled dancers, there is no such thing as music.
Skip, come on man. Be honest. Your hostility towards Christianity, faith, God, Islam and Judaism is simply organizational competition.
Skip, it's not us. It's you. Your spirit is weak.
You Secular Jihadist want those who believe in a higher being to switch over to the faith of those who believe in no higher being.
Exchanging one form of faith for another.
skip sievert...
"All Christians and Muslims are actually Jews .. and if you go back farther"
That's an accurate statement. Historically speaking, Christianity is just an hypergrown Jewish cult and Islam an overgrown Christian cult which took the whole system of memes back closer to the original Jewish thing.
Thats pretty much right Fisher.
Here is an interesting version from Hyper Tiger that is really very clever... but not exactly that informative as to any alternative... but it gives an idea of this dynamic from Babylon.
Part of the how and when aspect.
''''All money is decreed money...fiat...
The top says this is money...Or else...period end of story....
You Farmer are on the Land owned by the LORD of the land and will pay tribute to the LORD of 1 Gold coin a year...
Where do I get this GOLD coin?
You can take one short ton of grain to the grainery of the LORD and there you will be given a GOLD coin for it and then you can give the gold coin to the servant of the LORD...
What if I refuse?
Then the LORD will drive you from the Land that the LORD is the LORD of...
There you go.. an abundant supply of free food to power your wildest hopes and dreams...Lies and delusions...
22 And The LORD said, Behold! The man has become as one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put forth his hand and also take from the Tree of Life, and eat, and live forever,
23 The LORD sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground out of which he was taken.
24 And He drove the man out. And He lodged the cherubs at the east of the Garden of Eden, and the flaming sword whirling around to guard the way of the Tree of Life.
Well what is done with all that Food the tillers of the LORD's land give the LORD as Tribute?
It powers the Absolute Political Hierarchial food powered make work enterprise...
The city state...Or Civilization...'''''
I changed a few words to make this make a little more sense... but.. this also is a clever description of the inside joke of religion.
The garden of Eden explanation is alike the explanation in the original Sumer creation myth.
In other words it is an elaborate hoax by the original Illuminis to control and manipulate the sheople.
That would be the believers in the ''lord'' ha ha... Religion.
The lord is the top of the pyramid. Money.
It is not even a person.
Religion as we know it was designed to this purpose.
An elaborate dance of control to make some rich and keep others poor in a system of scarcity.
While many religions promise abundance.. ironically now when real freedom and abundance is possible it is these crazy religious dissemblers that want to destroy the world and have no conception of the false and destructive current value of using money.
So it is doubly ironic that D.V. carries water for the Jews/Babylonians/Christians/etc.
Really he carries water then for the original conspiracy group that thought up a practical way to enslave people.... the power structure of Babylon.
So ironically D.V. is a kind of Babylonian devil member.. in a sense.
His favorite son Obama is merely also a brainwashed pawn of that group.
DV, please initiate an acknowledgement for most shallow and idiotic statement of the week/month/year..., cause some mf's work overtime to obtain that recognition.
One need consider only a handful of social networking metrics to easily distinguish the considerable variation of group survival strategies distinguishing the respective "peoples of the book".
To say that they're the same thing is the height of irresponsible ignorance and superficiality.
nulan...
"To say that they're the same thing is the height of irresponsible ignorance and superficiality."
And wherein lies the essential difference, Nulan?
Endogamous vs. exogamous mating strategies right off the top.
Accounts for the significant
numerical differences and geographic dispersion across the respective branches.
Language and writing - the literal embodiment of the memeplex - would come in a close second. Unless of course you naively equate the jarringly different mechanics and supported cognitions within Hebrew, Arabic, and Latinate language spheres.
Lastly, and perhaps most germane to the discussion of the culture war that I noted to your attention the other day, and which you dismissed with Cobbian evasiveness one of these branches is culturally opposed to usury. Which is precisely why one of these branches has been made the object of hostile narratives in the lead-up to the hot phase of WW-III.
Right Cnu
And The Wizard of Oz was not created by Hollywood either.
It is a real place that is just a little ways down the Yellow Brick Road. Ha ha.
Skip, The High Priest of Technocracy and Michael Fisher, The High Priest of The Global System of White Supremacy ...
both starved for converts
don't realize that Christianity, is not even Christianity, let alone 'an extension of Judaism'.
How amateurish.
The teachings of Christ are simply an extension of 5,000 year old African spirituality, already ancient in old Kemet.
You see Brother Mike, the reason black people took to Christianity so eagerly, after the Trans-Atlantic voyage - is that we were being 'forced' to adopt a religion - which already echoed in our souls.
The great irony.
LOL.
Skip ... with his arrogantly ignorant atheistic secular comedy - knows not what he speaks.
To suggest Christianity came out of Babylon or Judaism is like suggesting Marvin Gaye was a product of American Idol.
Usery is a Libertarian talking point money scam society concept.
The Muslims just call it another name here in America and do it any way.
The Babylonians were smart enough to have periodic debt forgiveness because they knew that in an exponential system all money ends up in few hands.
Our culture is not that smart.
As to some other points... just blather on.
It all came from Babylon. Iraq.... that is the model we use today.
No D.V. sorry to have to disabuse you over and over... but there are no Priests in Technocracy. None.
I realize that you equate science with religion .. but that is a misnomer.
It just goes to show DV, that if you adopt a hammer for a belief system, you may approach every single piece of data you encounter as if it was a nail.
Skipco, please tell us about the Babylonian version of the corporation?
Nulan...
"Language and writing - the literal embodiment of the memeplex - would come in a close second. Unless of course you naively equate the jarringly different mechanics and supported cognitions within Hebrew, Arabic, and Latinate language spheres.
Besides the fact that the colloquial language of Judaism and of the supposed Jesus during that time was Aramaic, the language of most of biblical Christianity (as well as the bulk of the Roman Empire at the time) was Greek, we're talking about religious concepts such as that of this sky deity (or three) called variously Jehova or Allah.
And no, DV. The Kemetian spirituality has not a bit to do with Judaism or Christianity. Kemetian spirituality is universal, while Judaism a the religion tailored for he needs of a small tribe,and Christianity just made membership eligibility to that tribe more open.
But Brother Mike ...
When Abraham led his band of refugees calling themselves, HebeArews and numbering less than 75 people, arrived in ancient Egypt in 2100 BC, they had neither religion, history, literature nor art.
When they supposedly fled in 1350 BC, they numbered over 600,000 people. This time they were armed with literature, history, art and most importantly - a religion.
WHERE IN THE FUCK DO YOU THINK THEY GOT IT FROM?
They didn't bring Judaism to Africa. They left with it. And when they did, they left with primarily African genes.
A Jew in 1,000 BC looked more lie an Ethiopian than a Pollack.
Suggesting the tales of the Old Testament is the product of Jewish writers, is like suggesting Jews wrote the Motown hits.
Besides the fact that the colloquial language of Judaism and of the supposed Jesus during that time was Aramaic, the language of most of biblical Christianity (as well as the bulk of the Roman Empire at the time) was Greek, we're talking about religious concepts such as that of this sky deity (or three) called variously Jehova or Allah.
Setting aside the obvious and overwhelming "brick and mortar" distinctions between the three peoples of the book, let's focus on the area of perceived similarity that you claim.
The language of the Nazoreans, (Nazarenes) who lived for some time among the tribes of Israel was Aramaic. Language is at the root of the branchings. In fact, it's the Mandeans who preserve this nearly extinct language into the modern era - these are also the people whose traditional religious praxis underpins authentic Christianity. Aramaic-Coptic-Syraic Orthodox churches share a common root and recognize one another's authentic claims to preservation of the body of Christ, ecumenical mouth noises to the contrary nothwithstanding.
There is also a marked schism between the byzantine Greek speakers and the latinate others who came to define the neurobiological sickness of faith passing itself off as Christianity in the west.
Lastly, to suggest that Allah and Jehovah share anything in common, is to ignore what the practitioners of the two formations themselves claim about the source of their collective inspiration. The former was given by the archangel Jibreel, or Gabriel, and the latter by the archangel Michael.
If you ever regularly attended a mosque to receive some exposure to Islamic roots, you'd know in no uncertain terms that this distinction is viewed with the utmost seriousness and lies at the root of the abiding "doctrinal" enmity between Muslims and Jews.
Sure Cnu... It was the hereditary ruling class.
An early corporation of sorts.
Like a corporation the religion or belief system was like a legal person also... A living thing... even though it was not real. The power possessors said it was though and if you did not like it they enacted laws to fry your ass with.
First off DV, there is no historical record whatsoever of either Abraham nor Jacob nor Moses nor if this "exodus".
Moreover, while much of the concepts of the Old Testament, such as the ten commandments are pilfered from the 42 positive Kemetian confessions, the principles ensconced in Judaism have nothing whatsoever to do with Kemetian Ma'at.
In any case, that wasn't the point. Nulan claimed that Judaism,. Christianity, and Islam are fundamentally different. Aside from historical inaccuracies, he ain't explained how they are different beyond his usual bombastic vapid rhetoric.
Nulan...
"The former was given by the archangel Jibreel, or Gabriel, and the latter by the archangel Michael."
I don't even know where to begin to counter this gibberish.
Why don't you begin at the top, Nulan? What is the essential difference between the Judaic, the Christian, and the Muslim concept of God?
In any case, that wasn't the point. Nulan claimed that Judaism,. Christianity, and Islam are fundamentally different. Aside from historical inaccuracies, he ain't explained how they are different beyond his usual bombastic vapid rhetoric.
They are fundamentally different, and I've very clearly pointed out their obvious flesh and blood, linguistic, and doctrinal differences. As always, your objective is to save face rather than to deal with facts.
Whatever you have to do to preserve your parochial belief system is fine with me - particularly as it puts the limits of your knowledge and understanding on such stark display.
I know all too well the limits of your fundamentalism and the nasty habits you've marshalled in defense of the same. It's healthy and instructive for others to see you in this light as well though. Which is why I went to the trouble to respond.
D.V. Not sure where you got your crackpot history lesson from about the origin of the Jews... but that is way off base.
The Jews as an entity appeared circa 1300 B.C. and they originated from the area a little south and east of the dead sea.
They were pastoralists.
You are way way off base with your nonsense history.
I think you missed it Mike.
The 'Historical evidence' of what happened on September 11, 2001 is debatable, let alone what happened in 2100 BC.
The point is Judaism is to ancient Egypt what Technocracy is to the United States.
A pimple on the ass.
The teachings of Christ are an extension of something much deeper than that fateful conference in Nicene, 332 years after his death.
To measure Christianity by what it has become since, is like measuring Martin Luther King by what has happened with the NAACP since his death.
Well Nulan, at least my God ain't a cult leader named Alan G. Carter of the Religion of Dumbamine, 'scuse me, Dopamine.
No Fisher, nobody in their right mind would play your 8000 question reality evasion game. You're wrong, obviously wrong, and now that that's been shown in rather obvious terms, you've begun working your tired and played out schtick to try and make it seem as if you had a clue.
You didn't and you don't. You're just vainglorious.
It's taken minute to extract the totality of your discursive steeze - but now that it's in plain sight - it's clear that you're an extremely limited knower, thinker, and expositor.
It would be overmuch to characterize you as malevolent. Bottomline, you're doing the very best you can with what little you have.
Well Nulan, at least my God ain't a cult leader named Alan G. Carter of the Religion of Dumbamine, 'scuse me, Dopamine.
rotflmbao...,
God bless you Mikey - you've been outed so badly this morning as a serial fraud and poser - just stop and try to preserve what little dignity you're capable of keeping intact.
Fisher that sums it up well... ''he ain't explained how they are different beyond his usual bombastic vapid rhetoric.'''
On some of these subjects these two are just plain hopeless.
Cnu is kind of like the curse spouting nincompoops in the bible and in ancient cursing literature.
A put down artist with very little creative wisdom. Mostly recycled ideas that are hodge podged together and given as ''information''. Ha.
Skip,
Again, your lopsided education rears it's ugly head.
The word Jew wasn't even used until the Book of Esther.
Forget "Jew". Start with Hebrew, if you want to learn something.
Fisher.. Cnu will stop at nothing to protect his little ego.
He is way off base as is D.V. with their strange and really gibberish versions of history...
DV...
"The teachings of Christ are an extension of something much deeper than that fateful conference in Nicene, 332 years after his death."
Christ is dead?
It was the hereditary ruling class.
An early corporation of sorts.
Like a corporation the religion or belief system was like a legal person also... A living thing... even though it was not real. The power possessors said it was though and if you did not like it they enacted laws to fry your ass with.
So Skipco, how many of the Babylonian style egregores are still running thangs? Or does technate science not depend for its explanatory power on anything more compelling than this astronomically loose analogy you've responded with?
You too need to keep tapping that keyboard this morning because the full flavor of your limitations are beginning to register very clearly as well.
"Christ is dead?" MF
I think so, yeah.
That's what usually happens to cats nailed to a cross.
Their bodies change form.
Well... this thread would make the son of a bitch roll over in his grave.
The first characteristic of Orthodoxy is the emphatically important truth for spirituality that God is Trinity. The spiritually relevant meaning and implication of this fact, for our purposes, is that reality is ultimately and inescapably interpersonal communion.
Intimately stemming from the fact that God is Trinity is the second distinctive characteristic of Orthodox Christianity. Christianity is not a religion; it is a Church - the Church, the Kingdom come, God’s people called out of the world unto Him, and the Communion of Saints. That is, Christianity is not my personal and private salvation through Jesus. As the Body of Christ, it is a deifying process of becoming a communion of persons mutually participating in the Uncreated Energies of the Life of the Trinity and increasingly after its Likeness.
Plato sought the ideal polis. Aristotle defined the human creature as intrinsically the social and political animal. In Judaism, a relationship to God is to be called and chosen, ex nihilo fashion, out of nothing, out of Ur of the Chaldeans, out of Egypt, out of the world, as a people covenanted to God. The people, the Church, the Body of Christ (through whom all things were made, in whom all things have their being, and will find their fulfillment) - that is, the covenant - is the inner purpose of creation. Creation is the outer staging. The Church is the fruit from which the tree that bore it was born first, as the Syrian Church is fond of reciting, for what shall be last is the very realization of what was first ordained. This is simultaneously a cosmological and inward truth. Those who inwardly shall be last spiritually participate in that fruit from which the tree that bore it was itself born.
Contrary to the (schismatic, Roman Catholic derived) Protestant sensibilities that are dominant in our culture and affect too many Orthodox, the spiritual life and our salvation have everything to do with Church membership. The Church is God’s ideal polis. To say, in contrast to the nature deities of paganism, that our God is the God of history who intervenes in human affairs is also to say he is the supreme politician. God’s economia of salvation is God’s career in politics in history. God’s politics is the outward missionary expansion of his Church and the inner building-up of his Church into a perfected Communion of Saints after the Likeness of the trinitarian communion of divine persons. Syneidesis or conscience is naturally the innate prefiguration of the Church as that which ought to be, but which is faded in our contra-natural condition. For Orthodox Christianity, conscience is our innate inward call to become part of the Body of Christ.
skip sievert...
"A put down artist with very little creative wisdom. Mostly recycled ideas that are hodge podged together and given as 'information'. Ha."
Well, I didn't think I'd have to agree with skip on anything, but true is true. Nulan's entire Dopamine thought process originates with an extensive plagiarism of the ideas of a 47 (48 in July) year-old British guy named Alan G. Carter whom Nulan worships to no end, but who, in turn, apparently has as much regards for Nulan (also known to those circles as Xavier Moon) as DV's ass pimple.
There ain't nutin, and I mean nothing that is original to Nulan and his elucidations. Everything is plagiarized.
Nulan...
"The first characteristic of Orthodoxy is the..."
More of the "look how much I know, folks" gibberish.
The concept of God, Nulan. Start at the top. What is the essential difference between the Judaic, the Christian, and the Muslim concept of God, if any?
There ain't nutin, and I mean nothing that is original to Nulan and his elucidations. Everything is plagiarized.
Very well Mikey, you've repeatedly made this claim. It's showtime.
Programmer's Stone and here's the Third Age of the World.
Show everyone - once and for all - the specific points at which my world view is derivative from what Carter et al put forth.
What is the essential difference between the Judaic, the Christian, and the Muslim concept of God, if any?
The trinity you imbecile....,
''''There ain't nutin, and I mean nothing that is original to Nulan and his elucidations. Everything is plagiarized.''''
Even that would be fine with me if it went any where or did anything...
As near as I can tell it is mainstream and anti-intellectual... and it surely does not have a kinder and gentler approach in the form of making it a cursing game.
Cnu sometimes reminds me Fisher of an quasi-intellectual spoil sport.
Really no point in trying to engage in a rational discourse with people that hurl trollish insults as a basic way to communicate.
DV...
"That's what usually happens to cats nailed to a cross.
Their bodies change form.
What? The guy got nailed to the cross again?
After he done had gotten up resurrected from death?
Dang, DV, what a waste of a resurrection.
So you're telling me that the Christian trinity is nutin but a duality?
Ahh, so much confusion about da Jews...
Well of course, this was all by intention..all misdirection.
They are like camel-lions...shapeshifters...hiding behind layers.
They toss up smokescreens and mirrors to cover all their tracks.
Never strike directly, but always indirectly through multi-layered proxies.
They come like a whirlwind and leave you gasping for air, chasing their dust.
Left with nothing but sand pouring through your hands...dried from bloodlust.
Gimme a beat, and I'll rock this house down.
There is a memetic and genetic strain here...of stellar origin. Cloaked in secrecy, they sowed their starseed. Remember, Jesus called the Talmudic Pharisees the spawn of Satan. That's right, Jesus was the original "anti-Semite," who died fighting the same shadowy enemy we fight today.
Who Obama, sad to say, also serves as their Doomsday Profit-for-hire. Burn, baby burn. He who brings Hellfire. A neo-Prometheus Faustian co-conspirator.
Now, let the Endgames begin!
Hey Mikey, I've got an idea. Now that you and Skippy have discovered that you're both lifetime ticket holders on that little short green school bus, maybe the two of you could collaborate on a new evangelical web venture.
I'm thinking;
"assaultonstupidfolkssanity.blogspot.com"
whaddaya say? It could be a spot for hammerheaded fundamentalist simpletons to fulminate with one another about how they've been subjected to a lifetime of scorn and abuse by the non-cognitively disadvantaged.
Guaranteed to be an instant winner - and a topic about which the two of you are unquestionably the pre-eminent subject matter experts of the day - so you won't have to work at it very hard either.
This way, you can stop perpetrating in the name of "Black folks", and, Skippy can stop perpetrating in the otherwise good name of "science"
There is NO mystery about he Jews.. where they came from etc. That is bullshit birdie. You are obviously obsessed with that group of religious retards.
You really ought to read a little history.
Scape goating some group without getting at the actual dynamic is a waste of time.
You think the jews are boogey men.
You are pathetic.
The Jews are just another cult as the Christians and Muslims are also.
Get to the real thing. Babylon.
Cnu... you really are a nasty son of a bitch.
Ha ha.
Skip, other than for the Christian apostasy that the sentiment entails, do you sincerely believe that I should hold either you or Fisher in anything other than the utmost contempt?
Now that birdeye is in the house, we can be assured that the discourse is going to achieve it's full hammerheaded potential.
au revoir dumbasses.....,
Well you will do as you please.
Why have contempt?
We are just asking a few questions and making a few statements.
You may as well admit that you are not really being friendly or assuming good faith in your exhortations which seem focused on you being oh so brilliant.
You ought to chill out and learn how to communicate without flying off the handle and going on a cursing tirade.
It is just plain silly to watch.
The Jews are just another cult as the Christians and Muslims are also.
Get to the real thing. Babylon.
It's deeper than that. Don't get tied up in the Semitic semantics. "Jew," "Hebrew," "Caininite," etc.
There is an underlying seed strain of another name...
Back to Obama....
Not only is he not a Prophet... he is going to be used to make a profit for his buddies .... the fascist corporate system that runs the U.S.
Really birdie ... it is ridiculous your line of casting mysterious crap.
Suspend your concepts for a few minutes and read this.
Origin of the Political/Price System TNAT TheNorthAmericanTechnate
Then read that little piece about money that I gave Fisher.
Nulan...
"Hey Mikey, I've got an idea..."
You got an idea? Finally? Your very own? Congrats.
Though:
"I have wrestled with the question of religion more extensively than any other in my life, and concluded long ago that at its core, religion is founded on mapping the interior spaces of our mental life. The great shamanic quest within.
Something that I have figuratively referred to as "hacking the genome" in the past few years. In fact, I add to the categories of hunter and farmer the third fundamental type 'shaman' or mapper of the mind/body/deity." --- Nulan
roflmao
Nulan, you're a "packer" of the lowest kind.
(For the uninitiated. Nulan and his cult divide humanity into "Mappers" and "Packers", the Mappers being genetically disposed to creativity because they are immune to "dopamine addiction" and the packers, essentially the dummies (that is, the rest of us)being not so fortunately genetically endowed.
Thus Nulan is spouting the most racist bullshit thoroughly unfalsifiable theory, based on some unmeasurable Dopamine undetermined levels in the brain.
As Nulan says interpreting his Fuehrer "packers are idiots, and only mappers are to be respected."
and...
"I don't believe for a moment that packers can be re-educated" (Nulan)
Thus it's all genetic. The masses of people are stupid, Nulan and his racist ilk, ain't.
In any case, Nulan, thus your ass-kissing of your fearless God "Imma gonna ignore that Xavier Moon/Nulan" Alan Carter. To wit:
"interest in cognitive activism precipitated in largest measure by exposure to your thinking led me to fairly stark Black partisanship, with Blackness (a culture and social construct) understood as the most successful and long-term oppositional cultural stance to dopamine hegemony in the world. That was and remains my summary take on things."
Nulan, bullshit is called.
(For the uninitiated. Nulan and his cult divide humanity into "Mappers" and "Packers", the Mappers being genetically disposed to creativity because they are immune to "dopamine addiction" and the packers, essentially the dummies (that is, the rest of us)being not so fortunately genetically endowed."
.... umm
Interesting. Never thought about it like that.
... makes sense do'.
I mean you know ... if it's true, what's racist got to do with it?
I aint scared.
The legions of Plantation Negros who just buy into a 'Global System of System of White Supreacy" meme certainly sound like packers.
Cats who create counter-memes like 'Global System of Black Supremacy' ... or "I Get Money' ... or ... "Yes We Can' ... or ... 'The Greatest of All Time!' ... or ... 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me' ... or 'To all my Kike niggers
Spic Niggers, Guinea Niggers , Chink Niggers
that's right, ya'll my niggers too
They like to strangle niggers
blame a nigger, shoot a nigger, hang a nigger
still you wanna be a nigger too' ...
Sound like mematic producing Mappers to me.
Where's the racism Mike?
Fuck Equality for All.
Equality for Equals.
Still waiting for a single shred of evidence of plagiarism Mikey.
There's no shame in my open acknowledgement of the benefit and pleasure of a lengthy discourse with Alan and other folks interested in his hypothesis.
The fact of the matter, is that we strongly disagreed over a significant variety of issues - not least of which is the very thing you cited.
The fact that you remain butt-hurt over my summary abandonment of your idiotic GSWS fundamentalism - your idiotic and entirely derivative assaultonblacksanity blog, and that you've subsequently proven yourself flatly incapable of taking that cockamamie tripe any further than Welsing was able to take it, is merely a testament to your own impotent stupidity.
The fact that you're personally an asshole of the first magnitude, so much so that your ex-wife elected to take a knife to your worthless carcass, speaks volumes to your abject failure across every measurable dimension of life.
DV if it were true I wouldn't have a problem with it. The point is that the whole thing is a hypothesis and an unprovable, unfalsifiable one at that. In fact, it can't be proven. There is no objective, social value-free, scientific way of doing it.
As to your slogan "Equality for Equals", though I understand how it, in terms of elitism, is intended, the sentence makes no sense whatsoever. It is redundant and ha no functional content.
Fuck Equality for All.
Equality for Equals.
Brilliance.
What MF fails to realize is that NATURAL DARWININIAN EVOLUTION is a "Global System For Supremacy." Not mediocrity. It IS survival of the fittest - on every level. That is entirely natural and what got us all here today.
If every sperm fertilized an egg - every women would deliver a million babies at a time. Would that work well? Hell no.
So, is "equality" that Natural way? Does Nature oversupply to limited demand in order to force evolution through competition? Hell yes.
When you reverse that, like Jews try to for Gentile barbarians...you end up with Communism. And when you pervert Nature (the science of God), you WILL FAIL.
MF - All you have done is projected your own racial inferiority complex outward onto White folk. As long as you keep seeing yourself as racially-inferior - you will keep seeing White folk seeing that as well.
DV, it's not so simple as simple simon tried to make it out to be.
Notice that AGC divided the archetypal world into hunters and gatherers. To that, I added the obvious additional category of shamanics, but let's not belabor any sticky details.
Beyond these overly broad categories, we also have to add that AGC's idealized mappers are autistic spectrum, and that he never gave any consideration to the coexisting and predominant mass of folks naturally occurring along the schizophrenic spectrum - or do you suppose that animistic culture is rooted in the same variant of human mentality as the western monoculture?
None of this is really rocket science, but it does involve a panoptic consideration of paleopsychology and what we can carefully observe in the modern remnants of these prior competing mental, linguistic, and cultural formations.
In the worlds "competing" religious traditions, we find some of the clearest and most obvious evidence of significant underlying differentiation in collective, evolutionarily stable strategies for preservation of neurotypes.
A shintoist and a protestant, and a rastafarian are not experiencing the world through a common psychological lens - despite the simpleton reductionists protestations to the contrary.
I realize that imitation is alleged to be high flattery, but I could easily do without your clumsy, hamfisted imitations of my modes of expression.
At least have the dignity to man up in your own terms and with your own voice.
You weren't much to start with Mikey, but the more you write, the further you diminish what little you have left. It's long past time for you to stop....,
Illustrated even more flatly and simply, folks who smoke weed - and by so doing engage in habitual, self-induced serotonin reuptake inhibition - are not participating in the same psychophysiological culture as folks addicted to elevated levels of dopamine.
How else account for the vehement and "irrational" prohibition against weed consumption in dopaminergic society?
Yet it happens despite the grotesque penalties and hazards imposed on it and that "sub-culture" with its own priorities and sensi-bilities roughly abides within and alongside the normative dopaminergic throng.
Nulan, you can rant and rave as much as you want, the shit you are espousing is racist drivel, and the fact that you consider yourself a "mapper" is just as much drivel. Moreover, your callous disregard humanity that you in your racist fog call irredeemable idiots is no less genocide-promoting than Hitler and the slave traders of yore.
To wit:
You admit that "[Nulan] lacks compassion...," and in this spirit respond to DV's suggestion that while "the 'packers' cannot be 're-educated', but their souls can be saved."
as thus:
"For what?"
If your racism were at least somewhat sophisticated, ok. But conceptually you operate somewhere below byrdeye, though, as I said, sophisticated enough to see that his shit is amateurish as well.
Birds of a feather, Nulan.
oh, by the way, Craig "Mapper" Nulan. When's the last time you had your dopamine level and your r-receptors checked?
What is that you say? "Never"?
Ooohhh. THAT explains it.
Nulan, you can rant and rave as much as you want, the shit you are espousing is racist drivel, and the fact that you consider yourself a "mapper" is just as much drivel. Moreover, your callous disregard humanity that you in your racist fog irredeemable idiots is no less genocide-promoting than Hitler and the slave traders of yore.
Nah Fisher, I'm not autistic spectrum and I'm not a mapper. I'm something different that AGC couldn't rightly account for.
While I freely admit that I would find it greatly amusing to read that YOU had personally come to a bad, protracted, or painful end (making me no different in certain regards than your ex-wife - though she actively sought to bring about that end) I have no beef with humanity in general.
I simply understand and acknowledge the fact that simple education is insufficient to modify a person's neurotype and the mentality and culture which that entails.
It's also why I took a deep and abiding interest in the deep psychological methods contained within the esoteric reaches of several of the world's religious traditions, because that's PRECISELY what those practices exist to accomplish.
Still waiting to read a single shred of plagiarized material from Alan Carter. If you've already put up everything you've got - I think we're finished here and you've proven yourself once again to be booboo the fool....,
MF - Do you believe every sperm in a load of jizz should get to survive and fertilize an egg? And if not, that's abortive genocide?
And if not, do you believe the slower sperm should be given affirmative action to equalize their arrival at the finish line?
Or are you glad that you were the sole product of the fittest sperm out of millions of contenders?
Isn't it good that Nature aims at "supremacy" (most fit)...rather than "equality?"
Agree or disagree, MIKE?
oh, by the way, Craig "Mapper" Nulan. When's the last time you had your dopamine level and your r-receptors checked?
I'm not autistic spectrum Mikey, thus not a mapper.
To your point though, I rolled off an 18 month clinical study at the end of March and I am a decidedly hypodopaminergic specimen - which is why I was included in the study in the first place.
This'll take you over the top Mikey mike...,
I possess all the strengths of an upper-tier mapper, but none of the characteristic weaknesses.
rotflmbao....,
On that note, I'm seriously going to leave you and birdie to your jizz wrassling.....,
See Byrd,
You askin' Mike a dangerous question.
If there is a "Global System of White Supremacy" -
Big Ups. They pulled the shit off.
byrdeye...
"Isn't it good that Nature aims at 'supremacy' (most fit)...rather than 'equality?'"
Who is talking about equality? I am talking about the fiction of innate biological inequality that the notion of "race" presupposes.
Nulan...
Nulan...
"I rolled off an 18 month clinical study at the end of March and I am a decidedly hypodopaminergic specimen..."
Which explains your behavior.
Clearly you are a poster child for the hypodopaminergic explanation of schizophrenia.
No wonder they had you in the psych ward for a year and a half.
DV - Exactly. If everyone is fighting for supremacy (and we all are in the rat race), then if a certain group makes it to the top, they would then be, by definition, "supreme."
And in MF's mind - that would thus be White folk, lol - revealing his own racial inferiority complex.
Who is talking about equality? I am talking about the fiction of innate biological inequality that the notion of "race" presupposes.
Uh, YOU are. Remember, Mr. Global System of WHITE (racial) SUPREMACY (implying "innate biological inequality").
And PS MF - Why has your "GSWS" nominated a Black candidate and handed out trillion$ in welfare to Africans and Black-Americans? Isn't that counterproductive to their supposed aim of "supremacy?"
God bless you Mikey..., you really are just doing the very best you can with what little you have. In a single day you've managed to;
1. Demonstrate total ignorance of the obvious concrete differences between the Abrahamic colletives
2. Demonstrate total ignorance of the trivial distinctions separating their conceptions of diety.
3. Level an accusation of plagiarism, while providing nary an iota of evidence to support the claim
4. Level an accusation of racism, while providing nary an iota of evidence to support the claim
You've really outdone yourself. The combination of your exceptional demonstration of hammerheaded fundamentalism and complete lack of discursive integrity within a compressed timeframe - has done wonders for illustrating all your worst "qualities".
It may be time for you to leave these public Internets alone son.
1. Demonstrate total ignorance of the obvious concrete differences between the Abrahamic colletives
Minor bullshit differences.
2. Demonstrate total ignorance of the trivial distinctions separating their conceptions of diety.
Who cares what brand of storm god or sky god they used?
3. Level an accusation of plagiarism, while providing nary an iota of evidence to support the claim
I wish you would present some interesting information for a change.
4. Level an accusation of racism, while providing nary an iota of evidence to support the claim
Free speech.
'''You've really outdone yourself. The combination of your exceptional demonstration of hammerheaded fundamentalism and complete lack of discursive integrity within a compressed timeframe - has done wonders for illustrating all your worst "qualities".
It may be time for you to leave these public Internets alone son.'''
The only thing that I have noticed Cnu is that you are an ill equipped wanna be intellectual bully boy with an very bad humor and nasty way of communicating based on kind of a attack mode little dog biting the big dogs as they play... and acting maliciously when ever someone asks you a question.
Really it seems like you get of on being an insult specialist and a cursing braying donkey.
As far as the religious crap about Abraham.... ha ha ha.
Why perpetuate the kind of fake intellectualism which is really more dependent on brainwashed history and ideas rather than facts.
Back to Obama.
He is an Abraham, punk... these historic cult leaders are all inter changeable.
It all stems from Babylon... with a little Egypt thrown in.
"Back to Obama.He is an Abraham, punk... these historic cult leaders are all inter changeable. It all stems from Babylon... with a little Egypt thrown in." Skip
Skip ...
If Obama were a prophet, how would you know?
You have the spiritual energy of a Palm Pilot. In a roaming zone.
The cat is speaking a language you cannot even hear, let alone understand.
You pretend he is the product of the illuminists.
"I heard motherfuckers saying they made Barack ...
Made Barack say, "Ok so, make another Barack" ...
Wait and see.
I think he will show his colors to you.
I see them now.
As a politician he is suspect.
If you have a hero ... look again.. you diminish yourself in some way.
This guy is not any thing other than what he appears to be. A crook... like Nixon and Hillary... and Mondale.. and McCain. etc.
Both sides support the same master.
Nulan...
"In a single day you've managed to...
Alright "Upper-tier-Super-Mapper". Whatever you say...
Nulan...
"Still waiting to read a single shred of plagiarized material from Alan Carter."
You plagiarized the entire structure of Carter's ideas, Nulan. That's why, apparently, Carter ain't giving you the time of day.
In any case, since you admittedly suffer from a mental illness, I now understand and I'm going lay off you.
You may as well admit that you are not really being friendly or assuming good faith in your exhortations which seem focused on you being oh so brilliant.
I'm sorry I neglected you upthread Skippy. Our bad faith rupture is also irreparable.
Since confession IS good for the soul, I'll freely admit that it would amuse me no end to read about YOU coming to a bad, slow, and painful end, as well.
and acting maliciously when ever someone asks you a question.
I have no recollection of you ever asking me a question in good faith Skippy. In the 8 months or so that I've observed you hereabouts, I have yet to see you do ANYTHING but attack other commenters and our host.
Since you've worked long and diligently to earn my enmity, enjoy it. It's all YOU will ever have to look forward to from me.
You plagiarized the entire structure of Carter's ideas, Nulan. That's why, apparently, Carter ain't giving you the time of day.
Nah, I didn't plagiarize any of his structure or content - and that fact is made abundantly clear by your total inability to produce a single instance to support your claim - even when pointed directly to the motherlode(s).
Let me let you in on a little public secret Mikey so you can stop acting like a jealous, jilted homosexual, kay?
Alan would like his hypothesis to work its way into the mainstream because it exists to support a method of industrial education and socialization which he believes will conduce to improved cognition all around. He actually wants to help folks.
Unfortunately along the way, the old discussion list was infected with a racist troll like yourself. A diehard fan of Henry Makow like your butt-buddy birdie, and this cretin single-handedly managed to roil the list for months until Alan finally threw in the towel on further public discussion because of the degradation to which aspects of the R-hypothesis was being subjected.
Hasn't been any further public discourse since that time because of the damage inflicted by one pernicious idiot.
Having witnessed it take place there, I completely understand the phenomenon and the associated sentiment.
If you work for years to articulate a complex theory of the world, having it shat upon and distorted by one obsessive compulsive moron with deep personality defects online, is really all that's required to make it look like folly - particularly if you try to appeal to people's better angels and don't devastate them or ban them the way they deserve to be either devastated or banned.
It's unfortunate that that's the way these Internets work, but that's the way it is.
Now then, having explained grown folks binnis to you, don't you have a whole lotta work of your own to busy yourself with? I mean, no progress has been made on that little village idiot GSWS theory of yours - and you don't personally appear to be making any contributions to its continuing development? Matter of fact, you've done more to set back the GSWS theory than your boy Skippy has to depopularize Technocracy.
In any case, since you admittedly suffer from a mental illness, I now understand and I'm going lay off you.
Nah. You'll lay off of me because when I bother to turn my attention to you for even a moment, you know I'll serially devastate and humiliate you. You're also well aware that I can make you an object of active enmity which is something I'm quite certain you wish to avoid.
That said Mikey, I am perfectly sane, gainfully employed, serving 40,000 plus clients in Kansas City and beyond. Happily married for 20 years to a gorgeous woman this December, and the father of two exceptional children.
You, on the other hand, are EXACTLY what I've described you as - on this - and one other recent thread. You know it, I know it, and errbody who knows you knows it.
Damn.
Can somebody send me an email and give me some back story. From beginnning to end.
This shit is like a soap opera.
Stabbings, mental institutions, stolen and discredited theories regarding human chemical compounds.
Have you two EVER laid eyes on each other?
Yall really need to stop now. This aint the playground and we really arent all gathered around in a circle screaming "fight, fight."
That's enough.
Nulan, seriously. Get some help.
I second that.
jesus you are vicious Cnu.
With that degree of troll behavior.
Nasty.
I have told Fisher a number of times to go phuck himself... but to get down to the debasing level that you get to ... is really very ugly.
Really the thread is supposed to be about that creep Obama.
When they open the Fema concentration camps and start herding you all in whether McCain or Obama is in charge then the punk candidates this system puts up may be more apparent.
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