Thursday, April 10, 2008

"I'm not trying to maliciously single you out as a white man, but race matters. From Marx and Engels to Chomsky and Edwards, well-intentioned whites who preach social justice have either been outright contemptuous of blacks or largely silent on matters uniquely affecting them."
Skip Sievert said...
I really despise the group you listed. Chomsky is a gatekeeper. Edwards an idiot that glorifies human toil which is now pointless (his father working in the god damned mill). Marx and Engels were strictly spin offs of 18th. cent. economic theory.. which is really 22nd century B.C. economic theory from Babylon... and really a dead end.

As a culture we are about to tear ourselves apart. Black culture did make America great in the largest sense. No doubt black culture will play an important or critical role shortly. Hard to say how it is going to play out... we will know before very long though. Condi is a no good bitch in my opinion. A real monster. She does not give a rats ass about any thing. Except maybe her bank account.

Submariner said...
Be that as it may, Skip, it doesn't obviate the fact that the horrors visited upon Africa and her stolen children didn't warrant their serious attention or was subsumed as part of some larger struggle. Even your response, "No doubt black culture will play an important or critical role shortly.", can be interpreted in just the same manner that I described. Although I doubt that is your intent.

If Technocracy or another alternative model for living is going to take effect, it will be mandatory that it have a visceral connection with black people. For we made this thing called America. When I take my daughter around the Capitol there aren't any monuments and portraits depicting blacks. If I don't refer her to Roger Wilkins, then she'll never know that blacks made up ten percent of the Continental Army during the War for Independence. But without knowing this, America will never truly be her country. Blacks must claim our legitimate birthright. Black people must place our stamp on the national character.

I would ask you to restrain your logical contempt for electoral politics and for a moment just imagine yourself as a black partisan aligned with Barack Obama. My white brothers and sisters have genuinely surprised me by their embrace of the man. But careful analysis of his victories shows that he wins big in states with five percent or less minorities and those with more than fifteen percent minority representation.

Technocracy or some other alternative must do the same as Obama. Blacks will be the catalyst for any change that emerges and takes hold. If black people aren't at the heart of your movement, the best that you can hope for is to become another Greenpeace.

3 comments:

Anonymous said...

Wow - that was the best shet I've read all week. On both sides.

J.C. said...

Your right... as well as Hispanics also.
Social change is going to be thrust on us though... if we are going to survive we must get rid of the present culture and start a creative one.
Real education.
Free housing, health care, transportation, etc.
We are currently in deep shit with the environment.. our true wealth.

In our original energy survey completed in 1934 a black university Tuskegee played a role... and there was a black section in Chicago and Minneapolis in decades past.
There were also Mexican/Hispanic sections in the south and west and also Indian sections in the south west.
This is an almost unknown history now.. the media has kept its mouth shut starting with an edict from Hearst a long time ago.
Women have also played a vitally important role all along in the past of our group.

The problem with Obama is that yes it would be interesting in a way and yes he is smarter... or perhaps a little more honest or clever than the others... but.. it is still the same problem. Special interest groups that control everything.
That ends in disaster.
Major Major change is needed and quickly.
A system that cuts out the caste or class system is a must.

J.C. said...

Our current system precludes real change because of the control of special interest groups. It precludes any thing creative and that will really change society.
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