Monday, April 14, 2008

Chris Hedges takes on the so-called "New Atheists" movement, led by writers and scholars like Christopher Hitchens


"The belief that rational and quantifiable disciplines such as science [or Technocracy] can be used to perfect human society is no less absurd than a belief in magic, angels and divine intervention. Scientific methods, part of the process of changing the material world, are nearly useless in the nebulous world of politics, ideas, values and ethics. But the belief in collective moral progress is a seductive one. It is what has doomed populations in the past who have chased after impossible dreams, and it threatens to doom us again. It is, at its core, the enticing delusion that we can be more than human, that we can become gods."

3 comments:

J.C. said...

This is a false dilemma set up by a person that is trying to capitalize on peoples ignorance and sell them another 'book' on how it is that they should 'think'.

quote.. So, there's nothing intrinsically moral about science. Science is morally neutral. end quote the author.

Science does not equate or relate to morality. Morality is a human thought construct that revolves around belief. There is no moral imperative for a human. Not being violent does make sense ... because if you are you will probably be rewarded by vengeance or what is referred to in 'civil' society as 'justice'.

Author..... ``So I think that I find the faith that these people place in science and reason as a route toward human salvation to be as delusional as the faith the Christian right places in miracles and angels.''

Anyone that states things in such starkly anti-intellectual terms probably deserves the audience that a book like this deserves.
No doubt the audience is composed of junk belief system believers that want to point the finger at others for reasons unknown except perhaps spite of some sort.

Human salvation is nothing a real scientist or intelligent person would hold up except in a false dilemma context in my opinion.

As we spiral into chaos as the result of the operation of the present society.. Survival not Salvation is the key.

Since religion seems bent on destroying others belief systems... science based society without slave contracts of morality or belief would seem a better system.

Denmark Vesey said...

"Human salvation is nothing a real scientist or intelligent person would hold up except in a false dilemma context in my opinion."

LOL. Skip, the High Priest of "Technocracy" is becoming a caricature of himself. Dogmatic. Intolerant.

He spends months proselytizing his little faith based secular version of Fundamentalism called "Technocracy", which promises human salvation with "energy coupons".

All of our needs will be met ... No war ... No class system ... No poverty ... No injustice .... No waste ... No corruption ... HEAVEN.

According to the Prophet Thorsten Veblen, Technocracy will protect us from the "Price System" (code for Devil.

LOL.

Skip is so enraptured by the cult of his faith, he deludes himself that he is not practicing a form of religion.

Nooooo! There is no God!!!! There is only Science!!! If we cannot comprehend it ... It cannot exist!!! Man is all there is!!!!

You have no soul! That is a Babylonian trick!!!

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J.C. said...

You know D.V. you are a real idiot when it comes to religion.

You ought to get out more.

ignorance or stupidity can be your only excuse for the warped kind of thinking in your last post.

You are kind of like a religious troll..