Friday, August 21, 2009

Does Black Really Have Anything To Do With Color?

81 comments:

Michael Fisher said...

If you mean skin color. No, not really.

Denmark Vesey said...

Shhhhhhhhhhhh ....

Mike. You crazy as a mofo.

? said...

A beautiful woman is a beautiful woman and this qualifies.

Michael Fisher said...
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Michael Fisher said...

There’s a definition of “white person” that I found on youtube that makes plenty of sense to me:

“’White’ people are persons who classify themselves as ‘white’, are accepted as ‘white’ by other persons classified as ‘white’, who function as ‘white’ in all areas of people activity and who have the direct and/or indirect power to make the designation ‘white’ stick.”

That explains why people who are darker than Stacey Dash can be designated as "white" and folks that are lighter than her as "black".

Michael Fisher said...

So given that "black" is the opposite of "white", then the opposite of the definition of "white person" would apply when it comes to defining what a "black person" is.

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Oh, so if I classify myself as Black and am accepted by others as Black (how many others is required) and get the definition to stick, does that make me Black Fisher?

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Michael Fisher said...

Dina...

"Oh, so if I classify myself as Black and am accepted by others as Black (how many others is required) and get the definition to stick, does that make me Black Fisher?"

Nope, because that's not the opposite of the definition of "white person".

Michael Fisher said...

C1...

"A beautiful woman is a beautiful woman and this qualifies."

C1, get your head outta black women's vaginas for a hot minite and stay with the issue at hand.

What is a "white person"?

Denmark Vesey said...
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Denmark Vesey said...

Mike,

Black is no more the "opposite" of white, than red is the opposite of white.

"white" people are not white and black people are not "black" ... (except for this one cat I went to school with, but that's another story.)

The term "white" is generally used to describe people of European descent. The term "black" is used to describe people of African descent AND most combinations of African and anything else.

Thus the term "black" is more cultural than chromatic.

Agreed?

Once we agree to that - we can remove the ridiculous discussion about black people being "opposite" white people.

Which will then free us up to extrapolate the more esoteric aspects of blackness.

As the blackest man in America, I am going to appoint myself the ultimate arbiter of what does and what does not qualify to receive the title of "black".

Consider it an exercise in Global System of Black Supremacy.

? said...

The term "white" is generally used to describe people of European descent. The term "black" is used to describe people of African descent AND most combinations of African and anything else.

Thus the term "black" is more cultural than chromatic.


Agreed DV


“’White’ people are persons who classify themselves as ‘white’, are accepted as ‘white’ by other persons classified as ‘white’, who function as ‘white’ in all areas of people activity and who have the direct and/or indirect power to make the designation ‘white’ stick.”

Could you clarify "who function as ‘white’ in all areas of people activity"?

Michael Fisher said...

Well, since you are a white person and thus function as one, you would be more qualified than I to clarify how a white persons functions.

If you are referring to "people activity" that just means that, all the activities people function in: economics, education, entertainment, labor, law, politics, religion, sex, and war etc.

Michael Fisher said...

DV...

"The term 'white' is generally used to describe people of European descent."

Why?

"The term 'black' is used to describe people of African descent AND most combinations of African and anything else."

Why?

Anonymous said...

Is this stacy dash? I believe Dash is African American or black identified, but it's obvious she has some degree of racial admixture. The classification of blackness can only be based upon whehter or not this woman wishes to identify as such. My friend from the Dominican Republic is a lot darker then Dash, and she'd damn near flip her lid if someone referenced her as black.

Denmark Vesey said...

Michael Fisher said...

DV...

"The term 'white' is generally used to describe people of European descent."

Why?

Who wants to call themselves "Pink people"?

"The term 'black' is used to describe people of African descent AND most combinations of African and anything else."

Why?

Who wants to call themselves "Brown, Mauve, Beige, Tan, Mocha, or Burnt Amber People"?

C.O.N.V.E.N.I.E.N.C.E.

Mike, I believe people of your generation, and I assume aka Lynn is a member, operate from an old paradigm - which assumes black is less than.

That is not everyone's experience.

Especially since the Hip Hop era, black is as coveted as is white.

Backwards ass Dominicans, fresh off a boat and a generation away from Spanish colonialism, not withstanding.

Michael Fisher said...

So everybody that's pink is "white" and everybody that not pink is "black". Can you show me some pictures of pink people?

Denmark Vesey said...

Michael Fisher said...

"So everybody that's pink is "white" and everybody that not pink is "black".

Nope.

You acting like you didn't hear me the first time.

Neither the term "white people" nor the term "black people" are references to skin color.

Again, you are projecting blame for your antiquated misconceptions about race and group inadequacy onto others.

As can be exemplified by your hyper consciousness of Classical One's presumed"whiteness". You cannot get beyond it.

You relate to him as if he is a member of some powerful privileged group, brimming with entitlement and whose interest in black people could only be the product of some sick fetish.

Dismissing the possibility that his interest could be genuine and his participation a privilege.

Thus, creating the self-denying prophesy of a "Global System of White Supremacy" - In YOUR head.

Where as Classical strikes me as a rather ordinary, good natured fellow, with exceedingly good tastes, judging by his presence here.

Michael Fisher said...

DV...

"As can be exemplified by your hyper consciousness of Classical One's presumed 'whiteness'."

Naw, I relate to him as "white" cause he said he is a "white" person.

Now, the picture you put up there is supposed to be a pink person? I rather think the outstanding characteristic of that person is a "big nose" person. Are you sure that you did not mistakenly put up a member of the "big nose" race?

"Where as Classical strikes me as a rather ordinary, good natured fellow, with exceedingly good tastes, judging by his presence here."

LOL. And who exactly is deferential here?

In any case, maybe you have another pink ("white") person you could show me?

Michael Fisher said...

DV...

"Neither the term 'white people' nor the term 'black people' are references to skin color."

You're close DV, but not quite there yet.

Now, as I said above, maybe you have another pink ("white") person you could show me?

? said...

Mike, even if I didn't refer to myslef as white, people would still see me as white.

Thanks Dv, btw, I like your blog and yes thanks for being cool and let me post. You have good taste in ladies.

Mike doesn't like me much, but he does let me post at his blog and is polite as he can be, I guess, that will have to be good enough.

Michael Fisher said...

Well, C1, how does a "white" person function as white in all areas of people activity?

J.C. said...

Fisher.. you god damned contention ass nincompoop:

When humans faced extinction
By Dr David Whitehouse
BBC News Online science editor

Humans may have come close to extinction about 70,000 years ago, according to the latest genetic research.

Televisual representation of early Homo sapiens, BBC
From just a few, six billion sprang
The study suggests that at one point there may have been only 2,000 individuals alive as our species teetered on the brink.

This means that, for a while, humanity was in a perilous state, vulnerable to disease, environmental disasters and conflict. If any of these factors had turned against us, we would not be here.

The research also suggests that humans (Homo sapiens) made their first journey out of Africa as recently as 70,000 years ago.

Little diversity

Unlike our close genetic relatives - chimps - all humans have virtually identical DNA. In fact, one group of chimps can have more genetic diversity than all of the six billion humans alive today.

It is thought we spilt from a common ancestor with chimps 5-6 million years ago, more than enough time for substantial genetic differences to develop.

The absence of those differences suggests to some researchers that the human gene pool was reduced to a small size in the recent past, thereby wiping out genetic variation between current populations.

Evidence for that view is published in the American Journal of Human Genetics.

Oldest members

Because all humans have virtually identical DNA, geneticists look for subtle differences between populations.

One method involves looking at so-called microsatellites - short, repetitive segments of DNA that differ between populations.

These microsatellites have a high mutation, or error, rate as they are passed from generation to generation, making them a useful tool to study when two populations diverged.

Researchers from Stanford University, US, and the Russian Academy of Sciences compared 377 microsatellite markers in DNA collected from 52 regions around the world.

Analysis revealed a close genetic kinship between two hunter-gatherer populations in sub-Saharan Africa - the Mbuti pygmies of the Congo Basin and the Khosian bushmen of Botswana.

Anonymous said...

Aren't you the same house negro that posted pictures of a black skinned man to poke fun of him, and yet you assume that I perceive black as meaning something lesser? I suggest you read all my post and get out of the big house to meet me in the fields.

Denmark Vesey said...

"Aren't you the same house negro that posted pictures of a black skinned man to poke fun of him, and yet you assume that I perceive black as meaning something lesser?" Lynn

Uhhh ... we really gotta do something about the quality of the public school system in this country.


Aint nobody say a damn thing about the brother being "black skinned".

That's your own self-hatred that jumped out of your own mouth like Freud jumping on a trampoline with a new pair of Nikes.

Being "black skinned" and being a shiny faced mofo cheesing over the shoulder of George Clooney, trying to get in the picture - is TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

Michael Fisher said...

Being a nincompoop, I'm exceedingly slow. So tell me, what is your point Skippy?

J.C. said...

Nothing much.
You just focus on the separateness so much.. and breaking things down that way seems kind of pointless.

? said...

Well, C1, how does a "white" person function as white in all areas of people activity?


Probably just like you Mike, I eat, sleep, got to school hang out with friends, go to the movies, ya know, people stuff.

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Michael Fisher said...

Then let me ask you this, C1. Since you told us that you are a white person and are seen as a white person, which objective, non-arbitrarily chosen, biological markers designate you as a member of a "race"?

? said...

It doesn't have much to do with biology Mike, you know that. How scientific is the one drop rule? I'm seen as white becuase I'm blond with fair skin and that is from European roots and hence white. These designations are societal.

Denmark Vesey said...

Mike,

Please ... for the love of God ... just make your point.

I believe you have one, but this endless routine of Socrates Says does not advance it.

Classical seems to refer to himself as "white" for lack of a better term. I relish in my blackness as if it were anointed upon me by God (which it was).

Isn't it safe to say - people take from race that which they wish?

You seem to want to use "black" the way some Jews use "Judaism", as if it were a badge of permanent victim status and entitlement.

They have "anti-Semitism" and the Holocuast, you have racism and the "Global System of White Supremacy".

Ultimately, both mindsets prove to be self-defeating.

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Michael Fisher said...

DV, stay out of it for a minit. Ok?

C1...

"It doesn't have much to do with biology Mike, you know that."

and

"I'm seen as white becuase I'm blond with fair skin"

Well, seems like "biology" to me.

Thanks for the answer, though.

Now how fair Lon a chromatic scale) does a person have to be to be white? How blond does a person have to be to be white? Are there white people who do not have blond hair and the shade of fair skin that you have? Is your skin uniformly the same color throughout your body? How many shade variations are allowed to each individual "white" person's body and where are these variations allowed to be on that body?

Next, and more importantly, why is your blond hair and fair skin the objective marker of the membership in this race? Why are you not instead a member of the "race" of people who have a particular left ear diameter? Looks to me that either marker is just as legitimate to create a grouping of human beings.

? said...

Mike, you act like there is some ultimate arbiter of whiteness, there isn't and if there is, he isn't me. So I'm seen as white, big deal, who cares? I'm think of myself as who i am as an individual I don't let designations hem me in. People can't even agree on what white is, some people thinks italians are white, some don't etc.

"Looks to me that either marker is just as legitimate to create a grouping of human beings"

Good point, now go convince the rest of society and will be all set.

J.C. said...

Fisher.. have you been reading Nazi science publications from 1939?

I have heard of ''faith based''... but are you ''race based''?

We all come from the same group of monkeys.
At one time there were only 2.000 of us.. maybe.
Odd ... but it appears true.

Anonymous said...

lol..., Skin color must be your hang up, because it damn sure isn't mine! If I've been reading correctly, aren't you the one that needs to validate himself as the blackest man on the planet?

Anonymous said...

The Socrates exercise is very necessary because you people are not trying to grasp this concept coming from outside of your limited consciousness so you must be guided into following your own misguided logic patterns to come to a point where you can begin to comprehend the point Mr. Fisher is trying to make.

Here's a thought, instead of trying to make what Fish is saying fit into your preferred race/color paradigm, try to look at the clear and concise definition he gave you to begin with and develop some level of understanding as to what it means to someone who isn't locked into your personal thought processes.

And Fish, Stacy Dash is far to fine to ignore and that is a nice pic, so forget all that.

Denmark Vesey said...

What

in

the

fuck

are

Exodus

and

Fisher

Talking

About?


I don't believe Exodus even knows. He's invested with Fisher in this inane vast conspiracy that every Caucasian in the planet is in on, and he is too stubborn / embarrassed to back out now.

Mike asked me to post an image of a pink person. I posted a woman pink as a pair of panties - and he can't even concede the point that the label "white" has as little to do with actual skin color, as does the label "black".

Point out the fact that most of this race shit comes from Negros like Mike and Ex - and you get back silly replies like "A Black Man Can't Be Racist!"

Seriously.

If there is a man on the planet, more racist / race obsessed than Mike Fisher, I'd like to meet him.

Anonymous said...

Dude, calm down. Mrs Exodus is afraid you are going to pop a vessel.

Mike did, and I concur, concede that the "label" white has little to do with actual skin color. So how does that help your position? It doesn't, because you think that's the end of it. Anyone with eyes can see that it is about more than just the simple color of skin. This "Race" shit as you put it has not ever originated from a source that could be considered Black. The simple fact that you could even conceptualize something so inane boggles my mind.

And since I am in the business of clearing up your confusions today, let me reiterate yet again for you that I may be stubborn (although a stubborn person might be less inclined to concede a point the way I just did), but I am not capable of being embarrassed. As for my investment with Mike Fisher, I was firmly in possession of everything I know about GSWS decades before I met Fisher. He hasn't even contributed anything to the knowledge that I already had on the subject. He hasn't had a chance to, because he is too busy trying to teach Racism 101 to you folks in the slow section of the room.

You keep setting 'em up, I'll keep knocking 'em down.

Michael Fisher said...

C1...

"Mike, you act like there is some ultimate arbiter of whiteness, there isn't and if there is, he isn't me."

C1, I'm not asking you to be the ultimate arbiter of whiteness, I am asking you to be the ultimate arbiter of your whiteness. This since it is you, not I who proclaimed you "white". Now since whiteness is "not biological" as you say (and I agree), it must be socio-political. So, what is the socio-political content, function, (what does a white person do that is specifically white ) of your whiteness?

Michael Fisher said...

Dwight...

"And Fish, Stacy Dash is far to fine to ignore and that is a nice pic, so forget all that.

She sure is, D.

? said...

If I shouted from the rooftops I wasn't white, it still would not matter, Fish and Exodus and everyone else would take one look at me and say "whitey." Does Tiger Woods get to be "Cablasian" or whatever just becuase he says so? No, most people look at him and say "but he's black." Not only can I not be the ultimate arditer of whiteness I couldn't be the arbiter of my own whiteness either, I am what I am.

Anonymous said...

Damn C1; I was really hoping you would think about that one before you came back.

Now you have to think about what it means to have no control over how you are defined, why you would have no control over something so basic to the core of you, and then why someone else would exercise that kind of control over the definition of the you.

And start by not deluding yourself into thinking it doesn't matter, because your people's history as far back as you can recall attests to the simple fact that it does.

Michael Fisher said...

DV...

"Mike asked me to post an image of a pink person. I posted a woman pink as a pair of panties...

I posted some folks pink as panties, too.

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Denmark Vesey said...

"Now you have to think about what it means to have no control over how you are defined," Exodus


Um Um Um ...

Um.

And ya'll cats still don't see the wisdom of Hip Hop.

"To all my Kike niggers
Spic Niggers, Guinea Niggers , Chink Niggers
that's right, ya'll my niggers too" Nas

Ironic that a black product of Yale believes to his core that a "white system" defines all ...

While a black product of Queens Bridge is in the business of redefining Kikes, Guinea's and Chinks.

Michael Fisher said...

C1...

"If I shouted from the rooftops I wasn't white, it still would not matter, Fish and Exodus and everyone else would take one look at me and say 'whitey.'"

Hmmm... disambiguation, me thinks. (seems to happen to me frequently right now).

C1. My question was not "what would exodus, I and everyone else do if you screamed from the rooftops that you were not white".

You DID say that "white is not biological"? Thus it MUST be socio-political.

Therefor my question was, C1, "What is the socio-political content, function, (what does a white person do that is specifically white) of your whiteness?".

Michael Fisher said...

DV. You can do better. Try.

Michael Fisher said...

Dwight...

"I was really hoping you would think about that one before you came back."

I suspect C1 did think about it before he came back, Dwight. He usually is very good at comprehending questions and answering them. He's a smart guy and does not usually provide answers to questions that were not asked as he just did.

Check out his blog for proof.

Denmark Vesey said...

Mike, Exodus

There is no such thing as race. The moment you play that game, you fall into psychological quicksand. The harder you struggle, the faster you drown.

So, your brotha is going to drop a rope down and give you a chance to pull yourself out.

Black is not a color.

Black is a crossover, baseline and clap boards.

Black is Denzel's walk.

Black is Bob Marley dancing to Get Up Stand UP.

Black is Claude McKay: "If we must die, let us die like men."

Black is your grandmother humming while rubbing Vicks on your chest when you are 6 years old and sick.

Black is "I'm going to kill this motherfucker if he puts his hands on me."

Black crossed the Atlantic in the bottom of slave ships and 300 years later pimped so hard, it dragged it's mink on the floor.

Black is why 100 million people, watch 10 brothas defy gravity on a court for 48 minutes, completely mesmerized, night after night.

Black is the audacity to build tombs in the shape of pyramids perfectly aligned with celestial objects, that last 5,000 years.

Black has the middle name "Hussein" and still moon-walks into the post 911 White House.

Aint no "system" Supreme to black.

There's some men who look like Leon Spinks aint a bit more black than Conan Obrien. There's some men look like Marlon Brando, blacker than James Brown.

And I'm still the blackest man in America.

Cuz I say so.

Intermediate Global System of Black Supremacy 002

Michael Fisher said...

Like I said, DV. You can do better. Try again.

J.C. said...

Oldest human skulls found
By Jonathan Amos
BBC News Online science staff

Three fossilised skulls unearthed in Ethiopia are said by scientists to be among the most important discoveries ever made in the search for the origin of humans.

Herto skull, Dated at between 160,000 and 154,000 years old
The crania of two adults and a child, all dated to be around 160,000 years old, were pulled out of sediments near a village called Herto in the Afar region in the east of the country.

They are described as the oldest known fossils of modern humans, or Homo sapiens.

What excites scientists so much is that the specimens fit neatly with the genetic studies that have suggested this time and part of Africa for the emergence of mankind.

"All the genetics have pointed to a geologically recent origin for humans in Africa - and now we have the fossils," said Professor Tim White, one of the co-leaders on the research team that found the skulls.

"These specimens are critical because they bridge the gap between the earlier more archaic forms in Africa and the fully modern humans that we see 100,000 years ago," the University of California at Berkeley, US, paleoanthropologist told BBC News Online.

D.V. that photo of the pink lady was really clever and funny. Ha.

Fisher get off your dead intellectual ass and smell the coffee. Put some cream in it though.

Jarvis Jackson said...

"Black crossed the Atlantic in the bottom of slave ships and 300 years later pimped so hard, it dragged it's mink on the floor.

Black is why 100 million people, watch 10 brothas defy gravity on a court for 48 minutes, completely mesmerized, night after night.

Black is the audacity to build tombs in the shape of pyramids perfectly aligned with celestial objects, that last 5,000 years.

Black has the middle name "Hussein" and still moon-walks into the post 911 White House.

Aint no "system" Supreme to black.

There's some men who look like Leon Spinks aint a bit more black than Conan Obrien. There's some men look like Marlon Brando, blacker than James Brown."


WOW!!! Ok D.V. I get you now.

Anonymous said...

Very poetic DV. I can certainly appreciate a well turned phrase, especially one that speaks so profoundly to Black Pride. With your permission, I shall reprint this ans perhaps have some of the youth that I work with learn it and share it with their peers. That's how I roll.

I know there is no such thing as race, yet the construct exists in the universal consciousness of our species. The concept is so ingrained in cultural norms that it is automatically transmitted to our progeny. There is no rational or biological basis for it and yet it does in fact have a profound effect on virtually everything in the world.

To ignore or deny that is simply disingenuous in my opinion. So your starting point "there is no such thing as Race" is superfluous and does not mean there is no such thing as the GSWS. It doesn't even begin to address the reality that although there is no race there is racism and color aroused antagonism and a historical pattern that continues even today of one group attempting to exploit and control another group.

Michael Fisher said...

Ok, DV. This is why you can do better:

Denzel is an actor featured in most cases in movies created by people classified as white and distributed by people classified as white who make the vast bulk of the profit of the movies.

Bob Marley is dead and his art made Chris Blackwell, who is alive and well, rich as a mofo.

Claude McCay's work wouldn't have seen the light of day unless published by people who classify themselves as white. In fact, the entire Harlem renaissance was financed by people who classify themselves as white (in this case Jewish).

"kill this mofo" Yeah, sure. Most black folks throughout the globe kill other black folks - in droves. Including here in the good ole US of A. That ain't an accomplishment whatsoever.

Them pyramids these days are controlled by virulently racist white supremacist used to be and still desperately wanna-be white folks called Egyptian Arabs who will tell you that Egypt is in Africa but not of Africa.

Barack Obama's entire operation is run by white folks, former Clinton people at that.

You can do better. Use your brain and look at the world the way it is.

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Michael Fisher said...

Oh, and by the way. Who owned and controlled the record company (in this case CBS Records) which financed and published Miles Davis' recordings?

Denmark Vesey said...

Mike ...

for lack of a better word ...

So?



That equation runs both ways:

Denzel Washgington profits tens of millions each year by charging white film companies to appear in their films.

A dead Bob Marley is more alive and more rich than a living Chris Blackwell, who has cash but little wealth.

"Them pyramids" these days are controlled by ... Mike. The pyramids cannot be "controlled" any more than can the moon be controlled.

Barack Obama's entire operation is run by whites? Or do whites work for Barack Obama? They are in his employ are they not?

Mike. If the only tool in your box is a hammer ... every problem looks like a nail.

You can only experience the world through the lens of white entitlement.

Like I told you months ago. What you call "White Supremacy" is not global. It is local. It is in your head.

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Michael Fisher said...

DV...

"Denzel Washgington profits tens of millions each year by charging white film companies to appear in their films."

Who creates these IOUs called "US Dollars", that Denzel receives in return for his services?

"A dead Bob Marley is more alive and more rich than a living Chris Blackwell, who has cash but little wealth."

A corpse is a corpse is a corpse, Marley's kids are either poor or working thanks to white record companies and William Morris Agency.

"'Them pyramids' these days are controlled by ... Mike. The pyramids cannot be 'controlled' any more than can the moon be controlled."

Well, you go and try to achieve access to the pyramids without the permission of the desperately-wanna-be-white-folks-called- Egyptian-Arabs.

"Barack Obama's entire operation is run by whites? Or do whites work for Barack Obama? They are in his employ are they not?"

Hopefully. We'll see.

"You can only experience the world through the lens of white entitlement."

Nope, DV.

Fact is, when it comes down to brass tacks, you're a jive-talking, slave mentality House Negro whose denial of the basic realities of the human condition will serve nothing but retard the liberation of black folks.

The sad thing about it is that you seem to believe your own hype.

Denmark Vesey said...

Ahhhhh Mikey.

Come now.

Please. You disappoint me.

Don't get your feelings hurt because your little world view has been deconstructed.

Your fantasy of playing Negro Pied Piper of GSWS leading black people to ... permanent victim status ... has been thwarted, so you lash out revealing your Freudian fears.

Mike Fisher calling DV "House Negro" is like Paul Wolfowitz calling Norman Finkelstein "NeoCon".

"Denial of realities". Huh? Nah man. Your reality IS a Global System of White Supremacy.

You just need to stop trying to project it onto all black people. Speak for yourself Festas.

"Who creates these IOUs called "US Dollars", that Denzel receives in return for his services?" MF

Mike, you sit on a computer at odd hours of the night trafficking in these very same "iou's", trading one digital abstraction for another, worshiping at the alter of "white" finance, creating neither wealth nor art. Just an amateur Jew in black face.

You believe in the SYSTEM of white supremacy because you are a cog in it.

Now, don't hate me because I'm immune to the psychological limitations that encumber your freedom.

Just because we are both "black" ... technically ... doesn't mean what applies to you, applies to me.

I am a product of 1,000 years of selective breeding. You are some angry Negro product of affirmative action and Yale.

We are cut from a different cloth man. You can't do what I do. You can't feel what I feel. Play your position, bra.

Stop trying to come up with global "conspiracy theories" to explain away your personal failings.

? said...

Wow, this conversation has deterioted quickly.

Therefor my question was, C1, "What is the socio-political content, function, (what does a white person do that is specifically white) of your whiteness

Good qustion, what does a white person do that is specifically white? depends on who you ask. White is and illusory term Mike, White is what replaced "European" in the modern west but it doesn't have a biological basis. In fact neither does "Cacuasian" which is used by the government and people of Arabic origins are considered white by the government but not so by other people. It's an exercise in futility to come up with a definition for what a white person does. I don't function as a white person but as a person. So I'm considered white becuase i'm from European origin. Does it define me? No? Does it doom to be an opressor, no?

Michael Fisher said...

What personal failings, DV?

I'm pretty sure I've done better than 99.99% of humanity, let alone black folks (and likely including you), by exploiting the cracks that exist and, from time to time open up within that white supremacist system due to the pressure of black resistance, and have done so without playing possum' Negro. However, in order to do that I had to analyze and understand the environment I am operating in.

Now, the fact that you can not for the life of you follow a logical argument from beginning to end without, Linus-like, abandoning your fantasy security blanket of "black supremacy" and, of all people, make the clowns of "Gangsta" the symbol of that "black supremacy" of yours, speaks volumes.

...Negro product of affirmative action and Yale...

I'm not a product of Yale, but I certainly did get into Yale because of affirmative action.

Not like Dubya who got into Yale because of affirmative action for legacy kids, but because black folks who had revolted on the streets caused the white establishment to re-trigger their approach and recruit smart young blacks into their institutions. They were successful with DuBois so, their reasoning went, why not more of the same?

What I did was take advantage of that. Remember the "spook sitting by the door" thing I said a year ago?

In any case, DV.

How else do I know that you are a House Negro of the "yes Massa" type? Because just as all such Negroes, as soon as a white person comes under attack from an black person, like a trained lap doggy, you come to the rescue of the same. As demonstrated in this very thread with your ass kissing of C1.

This same guy who would fetishize your daughter (once she grows up, hopefully) as he does with black women day in and day out.

Think, kiddo. You can do better,

Michael Fisher said...

C1...

"I am a white person"

"I don't function as [I am not]a white person"

'nuf said...

Denmark Vesey said...

Ahhhhhh Mike.

Come on man. You trying too hard. You mad cuz I peeped your hold card.

You can't even talk to Classical man to man - without recreating him into a boogeyman representative of "White Supremacy".

You scared of the dude.

I can see you are trying to scuttle the boat now that your theory is headed for the rocks, so I'm going to take the young lions and lil' sis to Sushi Nobu up in Malibu for an early dinner.

Yes, yes of course, the restaurant is Japanese owned, and I'm sure they too are racist wannabe whites and the fish was caught on ships owned and financed by whites, my car will be valeted by Mexicans who all hate blacks and the waitress will be a white racist wench infected with Jungle Fever and whose "vaginal lips are too skinny" (according to you).

But I'm going to enjoy my caterpillar roll like it made by angels, sip the finest cold sake and laugh with kids till tears roll down our faces.

It's a skill you should learn.

? said...

C1...

"I am a white person"

"I don't function as [I am not]a white person"

Mike,

I am a white person no matter what, you know it, i know it. But I a function as a human being and an individual, no matter what label has been put on me. I treat you as regular guy but you seem to view me as some represenative of an evil organization, I'm just a man Mike.

J.C. said...

You all are ''race ridiculous''

Really what are you trying to prove and to who?

Most young people today do not consider this a big issue.

Class/caste is the issue facing society.

That is the issue that is going to be THE issue as things become chaotic and the system collapses.

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Michael Fisher said...

C1...

"But I a function as a human being and an individual, no matter what label has been put on me... I'm just a man"

Lemme see. What is the name of that blog of yours again?

Is it "Individuals Who Prefer Black Women"?

No. That wasn't it.

Lemme think.

As yes. Was it "Human Beings Who Prefer Black Women"?

Naw. Don't think that was it either.

Oh, yeah. I think I got it now. It is "Just Men Who Prefer Black Women"! No? That isn't it either?

Dang.

C1. Let's be real. Given that your pic is nowhere on your site as far as I know, if your blog was entitled either one of the above alternatives instead of "White Men Who Prefer Black Women", would you have these many dozens of black women flocking to it?

Hey given that this is the internet, you could actually be a fat, potbellied short, smelly, no-teeth having, black guy in Oakland.

The ONLY thing that makes that site "attractive" is what?

The word "white".

Now be real. How many of these black women who comment on your site have offered to meet you in person and do the birds and the bees thing?

Fact is, C1, you are clearly functioning as a white person in at the very least this particular instance.

Therefor when you tell us that you "don't function as a white person" you are telling a lie.

J.C. said...

Maybe he is pink.

Maybe those black chicks dig his dink.

Why begrudge him?
What ever turns his crank.

Michael Fisher said...

DV...

"But I'm going to enjoy my caterpillar roll..."

Ok, Uncle Ruckus. Enjoy.

Michael Fisher said...

Skip Sievert...

"Why begrudge him?"

Oh, I don't begrudge him. But, as the playa he is, he should at least own up to his game.

? said...

Now be real. How many of these black women who comment on your site have offered to meet you in person and do the birds and the bees thing?


Ohh Mike, I hate to dissapoint you but it's nothing that good, it's just a blog. I already told you I'm considered a white person by you (if you ever saw me) and everybody else so it's white men for black women. I'm no playa Mike, I'm just a guy with a blog and I don't live in Oakland either.

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Michael Fisher said...

C1...

"it's just a blog."

And the blog is called what?

And why again, since you are "just a man", did you not call the blog "Just Men Who Prefer Black Women"?

J.C. said...

Jesus Fisher..

You are obsessive compulsive about your pet peeves.

Who cares.

You have bedded down so called pink women before.
I bet one that looked just like D.V.'s picture of a pinkie. Ha.

IWonderAsIWander said...

Good Lawdy....

Constructive Feedback said...

Thanks for the republish dude.

(Just remove the chick with the cigarette and you will be batting 1000% once again)

KonWomyn said...

'Sup DV

Bits of what I read of this were interesting; y'should blow up that comment Black is not a colour or make a video with the relavant pics; I really dug that. Is it ok if I use it for sumthin'?

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