Sunday, November 18, 2007

Submariner said...
DV, why do you begrudge Michael Fisher his indulgences when you endow a clandestine group with similar superhuman authority? It appears you've substituted one form of idolatry for another.

Exodus Mentality said...
You'll never catch me denying the possible existence and coercive effect of an Illuminati. Call it what you will there is too much evidence that active control is being exercised to coordinate this perfect storm of a system. And the wheels are still just about ready to fall off.

What I'd really like to know is, why you spent all that time decrying GSWS, when you could have far more easily reconciled your concept of Illuminati to fit into, (or even on top of) the GSWS? While you are at it, could you perhaps clarify whether your proposal of building a better plantation across the street is a workable action plan to overcome the Illuminati? Will you be building a better Illuminati across the street as well?

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J.C. said...

There is no Illuminati.

There is no 'battle' going on between bullshit slingers that anyone has to take seriously, if they understand the actual dynamic.

Its just the same old same old.

There is just a bunch of power hungry not so bright people that would rip off their own granny`s if they could turn a buck.

Why not bring up a real issue and drop the bullshit.

Peak oil is real as long as our Price System operates.

Part of what our war machine did was to make oil 'scarce' by taking off the market, Iraqi oil, and capturing it for future reference point.

That along with Iran looming, Venezuela threatening to take oil off the market, and other factors, make the golden goose of control and manipulation very wobbly currently.

It is thought that the magic number is about $100.00 a Bbl.
Then the Price System falters.
That has started anyway as we approach that number closely.

A profit MUST be made all around for the system to function. If it does not also grow, it collapses.
That IS what is going to happen.

Trucking is the best example. If stuff can not be hauled, and money made, 'stuff' (food etc.) will not be hauled.

At the same time Technology has gotten rid of jobs through mechanization. That makes the old Adam Smith theory of Labor wave bye bye to itself.
Consumers are eliminated and purchasing power is destroyed.

Add a few other voodoo elements and voila` Chaos and either system change or madness and murder take the field. Civil war.

Beyond these temporary concerns, investors are anxious that as global demand for energy grows, fueled by China and India's rapid development, oil supplies won't be able to keep up.

Currently, oil producers are turning out about 85 million barrels a day, while the U.S. Department of Energy says consumption is between 85 million and 86 million barrels a day.

One little twitch, and the whole shit house of our economy goes up in smoke.

Indonesia and the U.S. are going to be canary`s in the coal mine.

Each are vulnerable in different ways.
One because of lack of technology and over population and lack of resources.
The other because of total dependence on technology and a horse shit system of trying to distribute resources.

Buckle up for the approaching crash test.

"The long-term underlying trend is that demand is powering forward and the supply situation looks tight," said Jeff Brown, managing director and chief economist at FACTS Global Energy in Singapore.

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Skip,

The Russians aren't buying the notion of peak oil. Curious what you think of this argument -

http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/Geopolitics___Eurasia/Peak_Oil___Russia/peak_oil___russia.html

J.C. said...

Yes, Insurgent I am familiar with it, and sorry to say it is pseudo science.
While this article sounds good on the surface...
"An entirely alternative theory of oil formation has existed since the early 1950’s in Russia, almost unknown to the West. It claims conventional American biological origins theory is an unscientific absurdity that is un-provable. They point to the fact that western geologists have repeatedly predicted finite oil over the past century, only to then find more, lots more"

There is not a wit of reality connected to that person and persons connected.

We have hit Global peak oil. Supply will not keep up with demand. That is a must for a Price System to grow. If it does not grow, it collapses.

Oil IS carbon based and originally came from hundreds of millions of years of nature making it out of biological material.

As said though, that is ONLY an issue in a Price System where we are totally dependent on 'money' being the method of doing business.

Another reality... Thermodepolymerization

We can manufacture as much oil as is needed by simply using that method and any carbon source for material. Lawn clippings, garbage, tree trunks etc.
That method uses heat and pressure, and also produces vast quantities of fresh potable water.
It does NOT produce any greenhouse gas to make oil using that method.

British Petroleum has several plants under planning construction... Now.
That type of oil is better than sweet crude quality wise.

It does not contain impurities, and it can be made to burn super clean.

We do not need to dig holes in order to get oil. Also that method can make building material of carbon. Carbon nano tubes. A super strong light weight replacement for steel in many situations (car building, construction material)

Are we a creative society ?

Not when all choices are predicated on whether something does or does not make money.

Our social system is designed to control people, not have a creative endeavor of a society.

M.King Hubbert, the man mentioned in the article link was a very famous scientist by the way and is still considered one of the great scientists and thinkers of the 20th century or any century.

Oil is a non issue in a creative scientific culture.
It is a defining issue however in our society.
Fossil fuels are trapped energy from the sun.
It is far better to use electricity for locomotion and for running our society.
Non polluting power is available through solar application.
That puts vested special interest groups out of business.
Thats why it is not happening.

Those special interest groups control our country and control Globalism. At least for now.

Reality = We could power the United State completely with hydro power and solar.

Anonymous said...

Denmark, my dear friend, your obsession, no matter how much based in reality, veers toward dementia. During the several months that I have clumsily followed my my guide, Craig Nulan, into the cloaked realms of existence I've learned how much we shape and are shaped by language. Language is a tool which simultaneously liberates and inhibits us.

What I appreciate about your Illuminati and Fisher's Global Sysetm of White Supremacy is that they provide strategic targets for action. What I despise about both is that they limit effective action to their respective targets. Both, to borrow a phrase from Gabriel Garcia Marquez, are like an invisible cloud which saturates the soul. And I find it repugnant to think that, according to a deranged logic, Nazi atrocities could be a just response to the machinations of a sect of diabolical Jews. I am definitely not accusing you of this. But it is a slippery slope and one that GSSW may be prone to if one is to believe that certain behaviors and emotions are racially derived.

The fundamental problem of devalued peoples is that we do as much as we need and as little as possible. The great task is to raise our esteem for ourselves and not simply retaliate against an enemy. This is where the best of black thought resides. Besides, I doubt very much that a presumed card carrying member of the Illuminati will reveal himself for us to respond appropriately. My personal feeling is that just as a willful malevolence is quite unnecessary for a prion to wreak destruction, the deleterious effects of enshrined injustice don't need a discrete instigator.

Never before have I encountered so many smart, resourceful people. Perhaps we can organize a meeting in the next 12 to 18 months to discuss how we can raise the values of our respective communities. One concept that particularly appeals to me is the freedom school. I know that you and the persons who frequent your blog could develop a serious curriculum. I'm also certain that you and others have uncovered ideas that if they reached the right audience would cause profound transformation for the better.